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Physicist Reacts to Why We Might Be Alone in the Universe 

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@bennetayala6111
@bennetayala6111 Год назад
Appreciate you Dylan
@ArmyGuyClaude
@ArmyGuyClaude Год назад
Life has taught us not to be arrogant, as he goes on a tirade about how the video he's watching is wrong and he is right.
@khalidramahi9179
@khalidramahi9179 Год назад
I just feel these are they type of arguments you either think it is or isn’t and u find data to support you. The same data that another person with the opposing view uses to justify their thoughts. All this is just extrapolation without hard fact to support either way.
@43nostromo
@43nostromo Год назад
As long as I have Skyy Vodka and Orange Juice, I'll never be alone in the universe.
@bob_zor
@bob_zor Год назад
It’s possible
@johnterpack3940
@johnterpack3940 Год назад
As I commented on the original video, anyone who thinks the universe is teeming with life is simply bad at math. For starters, the number of stars in the galaxy is a red herring. Not all stars could support a civilization, or even complex life. SETI researchers Turnbull and Tarter published a paper on that exact subject. They found that, IIRC, only around 14% of the stars in our area could support a civilization. Nevermind the fact that the center of the galaxy would be completely hostile to life. So there's roughly a third of the stars in our galaxy off limits as well. That leaves us with, at best, 15-20 billion stars in our galaxy that might harbor intelligence. The fact it took so long for complex life to arise on Earth makes it likely that complex life is not guaranteed by the presence of simple life. So even if all of those 15-20 billion stars have life-sustaining planets around them it's unlikely that they will all have complex life. And intelligence has only occurred once out of some ten billion species on Earth. Clearly, there's a massive hurdle there. The numbers just don't add up in favor of abundant intelligence.
@BlazeGamer
@BlazeGamer Год назад
Almost any star can support life under some circumstances. Even with your estimate of 15-20 billion systems the chance we are the only ones with life is so low and thats per galaxy. You start your argument with that universe isn't teaming up with life and end with not in favour of intelligence which one are you trying to prove because according to your maths it is very probable that we are not the only life in the galaxy let alone the universe and if it intelligent life happened once who can say it can't happen again in our massive universe. Life is probably rare but in this vast universe its almost certainly happened again.
@johnterpack3940
@johnterpack3940 Год назад
@BlazeGamer No, almost any star can't support life. That was the entire point of the SETI paper I mentioned. Using "life" as shorthand for "intelligent life" is a common, if confusing, practice. My argument did not change. There have been some ten billion species over Earth's history. Only one has evolved intelligence. That strongly implies that the odds of intelligence evolving are on the order of billions to one against. Which means that if there are only 20 billion suitable stars, and only a portion of those stars have a suitable planet, the odds of us being alone in the galaxy are very good. This is exactly why I say people who believe intelligent life is common are bad at math. If there are just six criteria that need to be met for intelligence to evolve and the odds of each of those criteria being met is 100:1, then the odds of intelligence evolving around any given suitable star is 100^6, or one trillion, to one. With 20 billion suitable stars in our galaxy, we'd expect to find one civilization in every five similar galaxies. There's no doubt more than six criteria required for intelligence. And I'm confident the odds of each are worse than 100:1. So even one civilization per every five similar galaxies is optimistic. Some galaxies are guaranteed to be sterile. The nearby Triangulum galaxy has low metalicity. It doesn't have the necessary building blocks to produce even simple life. So even if we scale our search up to the observable universe, we aren't going to find abundant life.
@BlazeGamer
@BlazeGamer Год назад
​@@johnterpack3940 Almost all stars have planets even if they are only gas giants, gas giants have moons. You also have to keep mind that everything is moving and the universe is old and still going so if an x star is not suitable currently it could be later and it could have been in the past. Also the 21 billion stars is based on the most conservative estimate of only stars like our sun, same temp, age, brightness, size, etc, so this number could be alot bigger than that. I'm familiar with the six criteria argument but its all built on a lot of assumptions that we just don't know for sure. I do agree that intelligent life is probably rare but not to the point that we are the only intelligent life in the galaxy, on the other hand I tend to believe that life itself could be common.
@johnterpack3940
@johnterpack3940 Год назад
@@BlazeGamer The paper I mentioned does not limit stars to only ones like our sun. There is a range of traits they deemed suitable. Which is logical. We know our sun can sustain civilization. The further you get from those conditions, the less confidence we can have in finding intelligence since we don't know how different a star can be. But we can make some educated guesses. We can say for certain we aren't going to find civilization around a star that has very low metallicity. Without iron, copper, zinc, etc. you aren't going to have life at all most likely. There certainly won't be space-fairing neighbors for us to chat with. Similarly, unstable stars, like red dwarfs, aren't going to sustain evolution long enough for a civilization to arise. We know more than people want to admit. We know there have to be criteria to meet. Whatever those criteria might be, they have to exist. If biology could simply happen anywhere then we would have found it by now. And if criteria exist then there are odds for those criteria to happen. This isn't radical thinking, just basic logic. And if only six criteria are enough to make intelligence rare, what if there are dozens of criteria?
@toreadoress
@toreadoress 11 месяцев назад
I think when it comes to intelligence it's important to distinguish between intelligent species and space capable intelligent species, because the 2nd is what is the most difficult and most rare compared to any other kind of life. There are too many factors that has to go exactly right for that to happen. There are other intelligent species on this planet like Dolphins, but they are not capable of creating such civilisation. Even when having the capability (like using limbs to create stuff) and looking at us as whole, we exist for roughly 200k years, but for about 185k years we lived pretty much the same way and if the agrarian revolution didn't happen we would still be living the same way and wouldn't have this sophisticated civilization. We may have gone extinct at some point without reaching civilization level just like the Neanderthals, Homo Heidelbergensis etc. (which have the bad rap of being stupid but they weren't stupid at all). So even if a species has the mental capability and the right means to be able to create tools doesn't necessarily mean it would reach level of civilization. This is what makes me more skeptical about other civilizations in our galaxy are there. The other thing is, if we don't find other intelligent species capable of reaching civilization in our own Galaxy does it really matter if there are in anither galaxy? The universe is expanding faster and faster, 94 % is already out of reach and lost to us which means we will never be able to go there. Andromeda is 4 billions of years from collision so for now that's also out of reach. By that time we would be either extinct or if we became an interstellar civilization, we would've already technically created different species when colonizers start adapting and evolving to the new planet conditions so we would be aliens to ourselves and the galaxy can be populated with different species who came from us.
@Sarvesh_C
@Sarvesh_C Год назад
I just had a dream a few days ago in which I was looking at the sky while I was laying down on the ground and I could see the moon BUT, right next to it was an entire full fledged galaxy, twice as large and twice as bright than the moon itself. So basically I was experiencing myself as a living being from another planet while I was in deep sleep.....Which is crazy......
@Top-Code
@Top-Code 11 месяцев назад
Who’s gonna tell him andromeda is 6 times the size of the moon
@Sarvesh_C
@Sarvesh_C 11 месяцев назад
@@Top-Code I mean, it appeared to be twice as large but in reality it’s still millions of light years away…did u ever have a otherworldly dream like mine?
@Top-Code
@Top-Code 11 месяцев назад
@@Sarvesh_C well no I’m saying that the andromeda Galaxy that you can see with your eyes in non light polluted areas, is 6 times larger in the sky than the moon.
@johnnyd1790
@johnnyd1790 Год назад
I think the galaxy might be carved up already between advanced alien races and we're just a farmland for one of them, we're in it's teritory and it just desn't want to be let known of it's own existence to it's farm.
@Nepomniachtchi_Austin
@Nepomniachtchi_Austin 9 месяцев назад
That's really weird and you read too many scifi books lmao
@johnnyd1790
@johnnyd1790 9 месяцев назад
@Nepomniachtchi_Austin I don't mean a farmland in the War of Worlds fashion. I mean more like a museum / farmland of information for them that probably is laws restricted to alter or even touch for them too. But every now and again, there's always one law breaker.😆
@ChipipoydotcomdotPH
@ChipipoydotcomdotPH Год назад
Imagine other intelegent lives out there looking at our planet billions of light years away expeculating that life could exist here, because they can only see the past images of our world just like how we see theirs. Even if theres now way for them to see us this far away, even if they are only on infancy of life, on a brink of extinction, same level as ours, more advance, even if they live on different conditions, higher gravity, less oxygen, in ocean, in gasious sky, in a world of trees, in molten world and a world covered with ice but theres ocean underneath. Theres no way for us to reach them or observe them, and it might be like that for a long time or forever because the universe is ever so slightly expanding in our point of view atleast but in cosmic scale universe is expandinh faster than my dad buying a bottle of milk 20 years ago, but yeah who knows? Maybe one of those goldy luck planets were looking at are also looking at us also and we both dont have any fucking idea that two or more intelegent lives exist out there, because the speed of light cant even keep up to how fast this universe is keeping us away from knowing, maybe were not supposed to know anything, if its not for those "angels" that came from the sky who taught us "sorcery" and "magic" which is basically medicine and science, then we couldve been contented, maybe we were not suppose to live this long, Maybe we dont have to go out there and find out or maybe we are already found. Is anyone of you playing tears of the kingdom?
@loseitbitch
@loseitbitch Год назад
Is it possible that the creation of life from said chemical “broths” requires levels of radiation exposure orders of magnitude higher than what they are currently exposed to? The super flare theory is interesting and might add another level of complexity to how life forms. You’d need both a young and violent sun and a planet within the habitable range?
@cthulhucollector
@cthulhucollector Год назад
I either want to be alone or the most advanced species. Just going by human history it never works out well for the less advanced culture.
@orioio5940
@orioio5940 Год назад
That implies that other all other advanced species have the same moral/ethical outlook as humans. If a more advanced civilisation exists, It could have developed faster than us due to a supreme generosity and empathy of spirit. Just imagine how much more advanced the world would be if war and colonisation never happened and the human race worked in unity towards a greater future.
@JezzaSezza
@JezzaSezza Год назад
I highly doubt that we are the only life in the universe. We just think that because we are all we know of. We think we’re the centre of the universe. There’s trillions of stars and planets. Why do we assume that other intelligent life must be able to travel the universe and have Dyson Spheres and be a type 2 or 3 on the Kardashev scale etc… Why do we assume that technology has no limit and that we will inevitably keep advancing? What if there’s just certain things that aren’t possible no matter how intelligent a species is. All those things I mentioned are just concepts and there is no proof that those things will ever exist. I don’t think that people can comprehend how big space is and how far even just one single light year is away. Even if an alien species could travel the speed of light, why would they travel many many light years just to goto another planet. I think there is heaps of intelligent life out there, but there’s just a limit to what’s possible. People think that because of how relatively quickly we’ve invented things like planes, rockets, smart phones, computers etc… that we are inevitably going to have Science Fiction things in the future lmao 🤡
@wizza2315
@wizza2315 11 месяцев назад
God created the heavens and the earth!
@reubennichols644
@reubennichols644 Год назад
- ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
@XxAverageJoexX
@XxAverageJoexX Месяц назад
Opinions are not facts.. you are not being very open minded. The whole point is we DONT KNOW what the odds are. You are falling in to the trap of being arrogant based on “odds”. If life is so easy to form then simply putting the ingredients together we would’ve made life already.. the time wouldn’t matter if we have the right conditions.
@clips9294
@clips9294 11 месяцев назад
19:00 I really want to punch you at here. How did you literally ignore the fact that the reason we are in this question in the first place is that we have no idea what's the statistical figure to abiogenesis. 1 data point has nothing to do with how we got proven wrong in the past. You are letting your emotions take over here.
@clips9294
@clips9294 11 месяцев назад
Never mind you correct yourself seconds later but then again end with emotions.
@Hennyauto
@Hennyauto 11 месяцев назад
Dylan is cocky and arrogant. Thumbs down. I’m tryna follow the other guy. Drop his link 🙏🏽
@ramseybolton1258
@ramseybolton1258 Год назад
« Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying. » Arthur C. Clark
@mutdd3954
@mutdd3954 Год назад
So original
@ramseybolton1258
@ramseybolton1258 Год назад
@@mutdd3954 Hi Timmy why aren’t you sleeping yet don’t you have school tomorrow ?
@mutdd3954
@mutdd3954 Год назад
@@ramseybolton1258 wow 😂 Mad disrespect to ppl named Timmy btw
@TheIceMurder2
@TheIceMurder2 Год назад
If I had a dime for everytime I saw this comment under an astronomy related video I'd be richer than Bill Gates.
@geddon436
@geddon436 Год назад
@@mutdd3954 First time I've heard of it.
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