@@beyerch There was a scene in the 1983 TV movie "Special Bulletin" in which the bomb squad realize they have lost control of the device and it is about to go off. It's actually kind of funny to see them run -- like being 50 feet from the bomb when it goes off will be any different than being 10 feet away. In either case, you won't know what hit you!
@@beyerch Most of that movie wasn't very funny, though. I don't think anyone under 35 really realizes how the near certainty of nuclear annihilation had permeated all of society with a kind of despair during the Cold War.
Come to think of it, as a Klingon, the typical instinct of which would be to die in battle before even thinking about retreat, Mr Worf is demonstrating an amazing degree of courage in this scene. After all, obeying the order to retreat would be easier, since he doesn't see it as himself running away. Suggesting that tactic though, means that he has to stand up to himself first, to defy the single most influential figure to his actions: his own ego. And to top it off, he also has to stand up to the man he most respects in the world, Captain Picard. I think that might be the bravest thing he's ever done.
The irony is, Worf was taking a braver stance, arguably, by urging evacuation. It showed how far he'd come, from being a hotheaded Klingon, to placing more value on the lives and wellbeing of the crew than on a giant hunk of space metal. He was fighting his own warrior upbringing, and his captain, in an attempt to preserve the lives of his shipmates.
worf learnt so much. but he learnt all of it really on deep space nine under captain sisko. that's when his character arc grew. and he became the best hand to hand fighter of any federation character in the tng, ds9, voyager universe. even beating some six-seven jem hadah fighters hand to hand in a row while in a dominion prison. and yes he stopped being suicidal, and almost worshipping death as klingon warrior are prone to. he learnt to chieve victory by any means possible, whether that meant retreat or subterfuge. in insurrection, worf should have been second officer over data. captain sisko had the best crew on deep space nine. he really knew who to pick for those positions. and he understood klingons. worf like sisko far more than picard. as did chief o brien. data is strongest, but data is prone to vulnerable to sneak attacks so he is not good against multiple opponents. and worf's advice on attack and defense strategy advice was taken on deep space nine as chief strategic operations officer. but on enterprise his advice was normally ignored, as picard did not like to fight. usually an enemy ship had fired ten photon torpedoes at the enterprise before they return fire as they are so slow to retaliate. enterprise would have been pretty useless in the dominion war , especially in the final battle against the dominion defense perimeter around cardassia prime. there was too much static characters on tng. and any character development was usually wrong. e.g. jordie loses his visor which allowed him to see more things than a human, e.g. non visible electromagnetic spectrum, so by losing the visor he becomes a less useful crew member. counsellor troy's accent becomes messed up, and he now looks too human-the big betazoid eyes have gone, and the pale skin and black hair. chief o brien was wasted, but went to deep space nine and became chief of operations. and that didnt mean being locked away in a separate engineering room like jordie. it meant being in opps with the captain and colonel kiera. and it meant being a senior officer on the defiant. he often acted like the second officer. i would say he was the joint second most important crew member in deep space nine. but was stuck as transporter chief with nothing to do on enterprise. and actually chief o brien proved to be a much better character than jordie, and he was a family man, AND i could demonstrably prove he was actually a superior engineer to jordie. enterprise should surely have cloak technology now, since the alliance with the romulans yielded a cloaking device for the defiant class vessels.
You make some interesting points, but I don’t think there’s anyone Worf respects more than Picard. Don’t forget he defended Worf before the Klingon high council, and helped lay the path for Worf reclaiming his honour.
@@shaunhumphreys6714 in sure Starfleet operation s took some very detailed scans of the defiant s cloak they could probably simply replicate or fabricate one if situation called for it
@@thomas.parnell7365 that's true. and it was the only the romulan treaty, of which the federation being banned from cloak technology seems to have been a massive part of that treaty. before the treaty it looks like earth was at war with romulus, either just before federation was formed, or just after. the cost of peace was to satisfy romulan paranoia by making a massive concession to not develop or use cloaking technology. and of course being at peace the klingon empire, starfleet can at any time borrow a cloaked ship from them, as captain picard does, and also gul dakot commandeers a cloaked klingon ship which he uses for a while with a small crew in his solo war effort. the romulan leader of the ship that captain kirk steals the romulan cloaking device from, told him the romulans would develop a way to detect a vessel using that cloak very soon, so stealing it was not going to be very beneficial to the federation. and the romulan leader was correct in this. in tng, twenty four hundreds, the enterprise set up a blockade between the romulans and klingon empire during the klingon civil war. data was in charge of the sutherland during the blockade and he modified the Sutherland's sensors to detect a residual tachyon signature around the cloaked Romulan ships. He then exposed the ships using modified low-yield photon torpedoes. romulan and klingon cloaks are pretty much the same. but romulans developed the cloaked quite abit before the klingons. they developed the first one i think in the first few years of captain kirks'time on the enterprise. however it is also said by one of kirk's bridge crew, as they had not seen romulans for a very long time, and had no idea what their ships looked like or how they would act, one bridge officer with a grudge against them for killing his family tells kirk that they have copied klingon ship design, so they look like birds of prey. the main difference is that romulan ships are green. that is accentuated very much in the TNG era. so romulans are definitely technologically more advanced than klingons. plus while romulans had a intelligence wing the tal shiar, klingons dont have anything as good as that. we see as well that it's quite easy to track cloaked vessels. the romulans explain that the warp drive must be perfectly balanced to disguise a cloaked ship, or it leaves a distinct trail of breadcrumbs, the defiant using a cloak is almost pointless. its a tiny ship that is overpowered, over weaponised, so with the cloak, they cant disguise all of that and it leaves a distinct trail and the defiant gets caught all the time under cloak. they have to turn of main power, warp, impulse, and put life support to minimum in order to then evade detection under cloak. it's better than nothing but barely tachyon detectors are routinely used by federation to detect romulan ships.
"I regret some of the things I said to you earlier." "Some...?" Worf isn't letting Picard off the hook until he specifically identifies the misdeed for which he is apologizing. A+ apology handling, Worf!
To be fair they did it plenty of times on "TNG" Remember Worf wasn't right all the time. Physical force is necessary but sometimes diplomacy is better! I think it's a perfect example of Worf being mature. You can't always get what you want.
I always loved how quick Worf was in shaking Picard's hand after the apology. Picard raised his hand in a slow, and remorseful way, while Worf grasped his hand with assurance and forgiveness. I will always love small details in characters like this.
@@JayMaverick This exactly. The Picard who apologizes to Worf is one of the only times in this entire movie we see the Jean-Luc Picard we've known for a decade. The rest of the movie feels more like Captain John McClane Picard.
"If you were any other man, I would kill you where you stand!" Riker, Sisko, Martok, Kira, Worf respects many warriors. But Picard is the embodiment of Worf's ideal Klingon. Stoic, fearless but at the same time cunning, resolute, steadfast, unfailingly honorable, and with a bit more of a restrained sense of humor and fun than seems common among most other Klingons.
Picard's qualities also made him seem like something of a Vulcan ideal to Spock. One gets the sense that Picard would have been good at nearly anything that drew his interest. But the fact that Worf chose him above all else to stand with him in his challenge against the High Council says it all. I liked that they had at least one conversation between Worf and O'Brien about missing the Enterprise. They needed to distance him from that life in order for him to settle into things on DS9, but I'm glad they didn't just handwave it. The Enterprise and her crew would (and should) have a certain in-world fame.
If that particular moment Riker was in charge and had said what Picard said when Worf suggested evacuating the Enterprise then yeah I think he would of killed him. I don't think Riker would of ordered them to stay though, he didn't have the same history with the Borg as Picard. Or maybe Worf just said it for dramatic effect.
@@rollerbladinggeek5507 Quoting memorable lines helps other people find specific clips on here. I myself have found specific scenes from shows/movies over the years by simply searching for the quotes, rather than trying to work my way to it slowly through various results. So the 'purpose of a quote' on RU-vid isn't exactly as narrow-minded as you're being now. Now skate on.
I love this scene because it shows a different type of courage in Worf...We always think of courage as in physically fighting, but Worf is showing moral courage at this moment. He knows he’s being insubordinate but he values the lives of the crew over the ship...He had the guts to stand up to his command and say no! This is wrong.
Ryan, your comment is completely underrated and totally correct. It takes a lot of guts and courage to stand up to your boss when you think your boss is wrong!
Seriously. That took so much courage. He probably had to fight every klingon instinct to follow the chain of command and fight to the death but he planted his feet.
These exchanges are a priceless ST moment. For a Klingon to be labelled a coward ( and in public) is the worst insult possible. However, Worf's acceptance of Picard's "apology", ahem grovelling, speaks volumes about how much honour Worf has. He's obviously annoyed by the earlier comment and obviously wanted to punch Picard's lights out, but, still has a lot of respect for Picard to be able to 'suck it up' and show his respect by way of shaking his former Captain's hand. Michael Dorn plays it well, just look at the expression on his face & his eyes.
That respect is the only reason Picard didnt die on the spot. There is MAJOR personal history between the two. But by this point Worf's character had shifted into Uber mode on DS9. That from his former Commanding officer was almost impossible to take.
Hyperion5182 Ah, yes, because killing a man twice your age because of an insult is SUCH a brave thing. If respect was the only thing preventing Worf from committing murder for utterly petty reasons, then this guy is absolutely worthless. Because there's nothing TOUGH or GREAT about murder.
Worf is a Klingon. You do not insult klingons like that and live. The Captain at this point was on a suicide mission the crew was considering mutiny at this point in the plot.
Worf's expression when called that was actually pretty subtle. He understood Picard was hurting, but at the same time, he refused to take any crap from him.
I love how much this scene shows that word had grown. he never would have dreamed of openly challenging Picard during the TNG timeframe. His time on DS9 with Sisko, after switching to command from security, saw him grow from a still junior officer into a experienced senior one. Great writing.
Yea, would've been nice if Worf threw out some Dominion war stories such as, " I fought many Jem'Hadar and broke their necks in daily glorious battle so I know what the hell I'm talking about when it comes to hand to hand combat. What do you know, hiding behind the lines?"
@@oldtwinsna8347 Sorry for responding to a two year old comment, but... Worf had more respect for Picard than that. He wouldn't have ever accused Picard of being a coward, even as a reaction to Picard calling *him* one. Yes, he *is* still extremely insulted, and hurt, and angry. But he's not about to stoop to *that* level. He has too much honor to call a noble, and brave man a coward, even if said man is currently trapped by his desire for vengeance.
@@andrewxu3602 Before the official war, but hostilities broke out far earlier for the crew of DS9. Stardate of first contact was in the later half of season 5 so by then Worf had already been through the brutal hell of being in the Dominion prison camp.
I will never forget the gasp in the theatre. I was 9 when this movie came out, I think. Maybe 8. My mom and dad, and their friends and kid and I all went to see it on opening night. "You're afraid. You want to destroy the ship up and run away. You coward" *Gasp - Popcorn chewing stopped* Good times man ahahahah
I remember seeing this in the theaters in 1996, I was in high school of course. The first time I saw it was with a good buddy of mine and then I think I saw it with my brother and maybe my folks another time or two.
At 1:37, the look of Worf's face is terribly moving. He looks like a boy in pain because his father, whom he idolises, has wronged him. That's their relationship, boiled to its essence.
@@dreadfulspiller8766 They did work on the Holodeck, never understood why they didn't use "projectile" weapons. Or flood the decks with the stuff that dissolves bio mass which they showed in the end sequence^^
@@dreadfulspiller8766 Yep, replicate good old fashioned AK-47's, and load them with frangible ammo, so as to reduce any penetration of the outer hull of the ship...
@@Leidnix they did work for 2 borg. phaser usually kill more borg before they adapt. also those weren't bullets. hologramms are technically "photons, hold together by forcefields". we have literally no reason to believe they couldn't adapt to that given enough shots.
Things the Borg can't adapt to: Bullets. Blades. Explosives. Any weapon that isn't based on phase modulated photons. Things the Federation uses to fight the Borg: Phasers. Photon torpedoes.
Photon torpedoes are matter/antimatter warheads with a warp drive, not some loosely-bound ball of light. Also phasers are nadion-based, not glorified lasers, but nevermind that technobabble.
‘If you were any other man..’. This showed how much respect Worf had for Picard- even when he is severely insulted by him.. and Picard apologizing to Worf shows how this deep respect is reciprocated.. wonderful relationship between the two. Worf certainly made the right choice choosing Picard as his Cha’Dish 🙂
Superb writing. Worf saw the emotional mistake Picard was making. He's been on DS9 now at this point long enough to see such a glaring disconnect from the Picard he served under. He called him out and rightly so. Worf hit close to the bone with his analysis and deep down Picard knew he was right. That's why Picard's insult to him was also an emotional response, going for the ultimate insult to a Klingon's honor. Jean-Luc needed the "old Worf" he remembers. The battle-craving Klingon whose chain he was always holding back. He wanted him off the chain. He needed someone who wouldn't question his thirst for vengeance and would be his most ardent asset in committing such. So for Worf, of all people, to suddenly say "Nope, you've lost sight"....this was a matured OFFICER Worf. That is what triggered Picard. The moment his favorite "thug" was out-rationalizing him, Picard knew he was in the wrong. It was that trigger that sent him down the path to lose it in the Ready Room with Lily. Such great growth from both characters. Possibly the best scene between the two in the entire franchise, up to and including the recent TNG Reunion series. Superb writing.
Michael Dorn's great acting cannot be concealed by his vast amount of makeup. Given much less expressive range to work with than other actors, he still kills it.
@@daddystu7046 Absolutely. Just watched the latest episode and won't do spoilers so I will just say that he was excellent and one of his scenes in particular was a real highlight for me.
Aww I don’t think there will ever be a cast like TNG crew. From everything I’ve seen, they had a blast on set, and most importantly at the end of the day they produced an amazing show with rich characters.
Casts like this are lightning in a bottle. It is very rare that a group of people have this kind of chemistry. They never really managed to find the same magic with the other shows
@@locutus99 Agreed. Especially with Pike being reimagined as basically "space dad." I'm not knocking it, I think it's a good choice. We already had "space mom" in the form of Janeway, let us have "space dad."
I've probably watched this scene 10 times now in the past few months, and I've only just realized that while Worf was essentially a first officer, he was on equal footing with Picard as he was in command of the Defiant. Picard could pull rank, because his ship has tactical superiority, but Worf was probably well within his rights to assume command of the Enterprise and order the self destruct be activated as Picard was compromised emotionally. He had the crew of the Defiant to think about, who were onboard and were also probably fighting The Borg. The only thing stopping him was his respect for his former captain and maybe his relative inexperience in the area of command.
@@Kontorotsui Worf was a Commander but he was in command of the Defiant which would technically make him a Captain. Because he was rescued by the Enterprise. They are on equal footing as commanding officers of a starship. Picard does outrank him in both rank and starship. In this case, Worf could have had the ability to relieve Picard of Command
Dr. Crusher could have declared him unfit for duty as well, but for some reason didn't bat an eye. It took some stranger from the past to get him to come to his senses, which is very much unlike Picard from the tv series.
@@jeremyglass2616 I wonder if Lily wasn't acting in some way as the same voice Guinan usually did for him. Not a starfleet officer, so she could talk to him more as an equal without the chain of command.
@@jeremyglass2616 You mean unlike Jean-Luc “IT’S NOT A PERSON, DAMN IT, IT’S A BORG” Picard who said that line to Guinan? And the same Picard who had to be convinced by the crew to actually not kill Hugh? The same Picard who had to be convinced to even let Hugh on board?
You can tell Worf really values Picard's opinion on a person's character and when Picard apologizes and says how much he honestly respects Worf as a person that it truly means a great deal to him.
I get goosebumps. Fantastic acting. Even with prosthetics and makeup and alien forehead bumps, this little moment feels so genuine and heartfelt. This is what Star Trek is about, not phasers and photon torpedos.
Also phases and torpedoes .. get so tired of people always complaining about when star trek has good action and moments off violence I agree that shouldn't be only about that but it shouldn't be without either
First Contact was a good flick. I liked when Lily started calling Picard out with the Moby Dick reference even though she admitted she never read the book.
this is my star trek: conflict and resolution between strong characters of high morals and dignity, well written and acted, and showing the potential for humanity in even the most trying times.
And now we get "Star Trek: Picard," where Patrick Stewart's personal feelings about both Brexit and Donald Trump color his judgement to the point where he creates a Star Trek universe that looks like the one we know, but is angry and xenophobic. "Sheer f*cking hubris" could be applied to this entire series.
Funny thing is that I remember that me and other fans discussed the film in 1996 and were not convinced. We claimed that Picard would never give in to egocentric hatred and subjectiveness. TNG showed how he was able to handle situations with the Borg and even forgive Hugh for what he was. This learning experience was not added to Picard's character in First Contact.
@@hawkiebaby Everyone has a breaking point. Everyone has failed themselves. This scene humanizes Picard, a character who is correct in his actions and reasoning almost always. The value of failure is in recognizing it, and further cementing who you are and what you stand for. Picard is rarely wrong, but when he is, he owns up to it. If he were right 100% of the time, he would be a boring character.
@@nutbastard Of course, you are right. But I always considered Star Trek an utopian future with larger than life characters who served as (nearly) perfect role models to illustrate the best of humandkind - however realistic that may be. I know that this contradicts with modern storytelling because human conflicts cannot be shaped out properly by the writers. But, a protagonist who did not integrate all aspects and challenges of his hero's journey, easily becomes the hate filled villain and falls. I never thought it to be believable that Picard would walk that line.
"I fear nothing. And if you would like to pick up a bat'leth and face me with weapons instead of words, I will prove it to you." -Worf, DS9 "Rules of Engagement"
Who would ever accept fighting a Klingon with his prefered weapon? Especially one that is so clumsy and counter-intuitive as the bat'leth that it even requires special training from the klingons to be useable in any practical way; mostly for ritualistics macho "i know it's stupid, but i'm so badass i'm gonna use it anyway" purposes.
It's profound because that line shows how much respect Worf truly has for Picard. Any other man includes his son, his biological brother, his foster brother and foster father, Riker, Geordi, Sisko, O'Brian, Odo, Martok, the list goes beyond to infinity.
Picard: "I regret some of the things I said to you." Worf: "OK then... your death will be downgraded to a senseless beating instead. This is gonna be sweeeeeet..."
I was Star Wars kid growing up, didnt get in to trek until I was in my teens, I feel a deep sense of love and warmth from TNG, just a wonderful set a characters
0:26 wait.. Hits me right in the feels. Worf doesn’t want fellow crewmen to die needlessly. First Contact is the best TNG film and only 2nd to Wrath of Khan.
@@tdog652041 I love that detail, good eyes! I would say less the nuanced communication so much as a simple appeal for a second opinion: "Am I crazy? Or is the Captain?"
This scene embodies what I love about TNG: the characters are fantastic. People might get emotional, because after all, they’re people. But they don’t engage in duplicity, manipulation, deceit. They are the best people we could hope to handle the situations they encounter. Like Superman, Picard, Riker, and Worf are good people trying to do good things, and are people to look up to.
Worf had truly grown from his Klingon traditional ways. Jadzia had helped him evolved. She really brought out the best in him. He became more understanding the value of life. And if it can be saved, then do so at all costs. Picard knew he was out of line and Worf made sure he knew that.
He certainly tried to be the greatest Klingon. He grew up on Earth only getting an idealized picture of what a Klingon was and should be, and when he finally met real Klingons he was greatly disappointed.
Always loved this scene but even more during the TNG series when Data scolded Worf about being a jerkoff when he was in command. After scolding him, Data thought their friendship would be over, which Worf quickly realized what he did to his friend. Same here, shows what happens in actual friendships and what should happen in real life. Expressing regret and the other side accepting they didn't mean it
I always enjoyed this scene because of how CLEARLY HAPPY Worf is to accept the apology, with how quick he takes Picards Hand? Like "Oh thank god you got to your senses, i really ain't wanna fight with you."
Also I'm sure Worf wouldn't hear the end of it from Sisko. Even as a Prophet, you know Sisko would haunt his dreams. Sisko was the only man that Worf openly admitted to being intimidated by.
Watching I just realize something about Worf which is awesome. The character Worf isn't afraid to challenge authority when he sees that authority is wrong. Worf also challenged the Klingon leader Galron which costed Galron his life.
Worf was right challenging Picards decision..Worf has no problem dying for a worthy death....but suicide goes against everything he is as a man.Picard was very lucky he didnt end up dead calling Worf a coward like that....awesome scene
I don't think he cared about himself dying needlessly as much as he did the rest of the crew. Literally the day before he was seconds away from ramming into the cube when the Defiant was crippled.
That's where Worf should've interjected and told Picard, "Excuse me sir, but i fought hand to hand with Jem'Hadar warriors every day when captured as a prisoner. That was glorious and with honor, but this does not."
@@johnbestavros6915 Voyager completely kneecapped the Borg through overuse. Not only did the writers make the Borg look like idiots over and over again, they completely mangled the relationship between the Borg Collective and the Borg Queen - in First Contact, she IS the Collective, the focal point of trillions of minds, yet in Voyager she talks TO the Collective as if she and it are separate beings (the scene in "Unimatrix Zero" where she demands a drone tell her about the dream-world is a prime example - she's the manifestation of the Collective, so she should have instantly known what that drone knew without having to ask).
I'm getting old. I've watched these movies and this series so many times. I feel like these are my friends. I wish there were 10 more movies and 12 more seasons with TNG actors.
First Contact is (imo) the only time the Borg are presented as a terrifying threat. In the scenes of them taking over the Enterprise they move quickly (something missing from their numerous appearances in Voyager - where they slowly walk about) and the viewer can really feel the fear they induce when your phsers have no effect and on touch means death (or worse than death - assimilation). Just waiting for them to waken in "Picard". Doing experiments on a Borg cube? What could possibly go wrong....
@@asdffdsa541 Keep in mind that at this point in the timeline the things Picard learned while being a Borg were invaluable in Starfleet's later encounters with the Borg, including when Picard took command of the battle against the cube and is able to better coordinate strategy and weak points to ships who this may be their very first engagement with The Borg. During Enterprise's first encounter via Q ...they had absolutely no idea what they were up against, and they would of course try to rationalize and attempt a diplomatic means of victory ...as they have done up to that point. We are comparing a completely taken by surprise with no intel scenario and comparing it to one in which there was years of it. This also coincides with why the Borg queen is not as intimidating, as by this time she has also not a random or brand new encounter ( to either Picard or from Voyager's detailed records ). She's also flawed, just like all species ( including borg ) are in one degree or another, because she's uniquely conscious and in possession of free will. Her interactions with both Picard, Janeway, and other past ones has shaped her emotional responses, her emotional safeguards, etc., as well as the reverse for people like PIcard who know her well too. An unknown unstoppable enemy is always going to be far more frightening and dangerous than the one you know intimately. What makes her presence there intimidating and dangerous is in the actions she's performing; traveling back in time to an extremely vulnerable Earth, turning Data, having control of the ship, etc.. In the context of the movie and tv series, the only two instances where she "lost" ...were due to subterfuge from a single individual in a situation that for all intent and purpose should have ended in her favor. She wasn't outsmarted or outgunned by anything other than plot twisting for theatrical effect.
I have always loved the dynamic between Worf and Picard. Worf was clearly a hot-headed Klingon who craved battle and the thrill of the fight, while Picard was the gentle, philosophical, yet stern leader that always chose to examine every avenue before finally deciding the best course of action. Their moments on the series, especially their one-on-one conversations regarding Worfs bogus discommendation were excellent. You obviously saw Picards admiration for him when he accepted the position of his Cha'dich when he approached the High Council, as well as the Officers send-off when he left Starfleet to fight in the Klingon Civil War. Worf always held Picard in high regard and because of this, he became more in touch with the human facet of his duties and appreciating the moral code that came with it.
I think, what goes unsaid here, is that Worf would just let it go if it were any other man. But hearing his hero Picard call him a coward really cut Worf deeply...
absolutely no doubt they are the best crew in the entire franchise love the fact that a starship captain has the respect to apologise to a fellow crewmate and shake hands and that is what makes picard for me my favourite captain.
Yes, I will give you that. But I also love when Picard opens the viewport and Lily sees the Earth below. He pries her hand from her death-grip on the console and, basically, escorts her into the future and its possibilities.
Worf showed the respect and high honor that he holds for Picard. The man who fought the leader of the Klingon high council to the death and won. If this man says such a thing it means a lot.
These new star trek shows can't hold a candle to this writing and acting. These older series were brilliant in every way and always had an underlying message for us.
This scene does a good job showing that despite of being a model Starfleet officer, even Picard has human flaws. But he is still a man enough to admit them (eventually) and act accordingly.
@@WilfredIvanhoe Well said.We all say things that we regret when we're angry(even great men like Picard).But like you said,Picard was man enough to admit his human flaws and act accordingly.
I love this moment not even for the drama between Picard and Worf, but for Worf's character development. He would have never done this on the show but he's come a long way.
Worf hit the nail on the head with the thing Picard didn't want to acknowledge. So in a moment of anger he said the thing he knew would hurt Worf most.
“First Contact” was my favorite of the Next Generation cast films for soooo many reasons! It gave us a deliciously evil yet charismatic villain in the Borg Queen. It gave us some of Data’s most memorable moments and dialogue. We got stunning performances from James Cromwell and Alfre Woodard in a genre we wouldn’t normally associate them with. And scenes like this one. Just the shock of Picard having the cojones to call *any* Klingon a coward is enough, but Worf?! The Klingon of all Klingons?! And Worf’s response showing just how much respect he has for Picard, despite the grave insult he has just been offered. “Star Trek: First Contact” was a damn good movie, and I don’t care who disagrees with me !!!
I love the movie but I will always hate what it did to the Borg. It changed them from a Collective Intelligence to a Hive Mind, the latter has someone in charge. The Borg were scary to me because they showed that when people got together they thought differently. A easy example is how a separated Borg would say few-till but when the collective spoke it was few-tile.
I'll say that, at the moment of calling Worf a coward, Picard displayed completel lack of cojones. It was an intentionally low blow. Anyone who knew Worf at all - and Picard sure did - in battle or social circumstances would NEVER call the man a coward unless they wanted to deal a low blow.
I love this scene. The music goes so well. The only thing is that Picard orders Worf to "get off my bridge" and then 10 minutes later after he's talked to Lily in the Ready Room and realized his error, Worf is still on the bridge! He defied the Captain's order. ha ha.
Seriously, I was like four and like others here, ai can remember the gasp of the audience around me when Picard called Worf a coward. Watching this, I can feel the corners of my eyes tickling the moment Picard starts to apologize. The chemistry is amazing.
I have often thought about what tactics to use to defeat the Borg. One idea I had was having a bunch of genetically-modified Tribbles in stasis. They have been bred to reproduce much faster than than the standard Tribble and can digest metals (not so much as to eat away the Cube, but to generate sustenance to reproduce. Once a Starfleet ship manages to penetrate the Borg Cube, the Tribbles would be revived and transported aboard the Cube, where they would reproduce and reproduce very, very quickly. As more and more Tribbles start appear, the combined body heat would cause the Borg Cube to raise the internal temperature from a comfy 39.1 Celsius. This drastic change in heat, humidity, and atmospheric pressure would cause the Borg to lag and overheat, becoming lethargic. The Tribbles would clog environmental systems, ductwork, hibernation nooks, etc. After I remembered Picard used a gun on the Holodeck to defeat a few Borg to get a vital component, I would love to see a Defiant sized ship with A-10 Gatling guns sticking out the front. Have the ammo belts linked to Replicators, with a suitable cooling system to prevent overheating. Then the ship could make strafing runs on the Cube with several of these Gatling guns firing away to chew up the structure...
Early in the movie, Worf was ready to sacrifice himself and his crew to take out the Borg. It's cool to see how far he'd come by being willing to admit defeat. As others stated, that probably took more courage.
With eyes like that, you don't need to be big or strong to intimidate anyone. As strange as it is, Picard is often a lot more intimidating the Worf. And Worf, (The character not the actor) could tear of your arm and beat you to death with it! xD
lmaooo, I totally agree...He was literally throwing hands with the Borg...and was able to report back to the cap . Definitely wasn't the average redshirt...lmaooo
BizarrePower The sad thing is, I think Worf and Sisko got along better then Picard and Worf. Maybe that's just because Worf had a little more development in DS9 though.
