Having reached the Summit of Pikes Peak in Part 1, its time to sit back and take in the awesome views from the front seat as our trains begins its descent to Manitou
I’m making this trip in May 2018. I was already looking forward to it but now can’t wait. But I’ll be taking my noise blocking earphones. Thanks for posting.
That'll be difficult as it seems to have closed indefinitely, perhaps permanently. I'm happy I got to take the train down in 2012 after hiking up Barr trail. Epic hike up, great train ride down.
Thank you, this brought back many fond memories. I was an engineer on the cog in 71-73. It was a fun job during the summer but a bummer in the winter, that's when you did all the maintenance on the units. Thanks again, enjoyed it.
Thank you, I'm pleased you enjoyed it, I can imagine the mountain is a difficult place in winter. I'm also an engineer (mold toolmaker), I find the various Swiss cog railways fascinating and I was interested to learn that the the units were from Switzerland, although the outline was a bit of give away.
When I was driving the units we only had four single units. After I left they upgraded to double units and also made a few sidings for units to pass. Before it was all trains go up and then all trains go down, once in the morning and once in the afternoon with one at night during midsummer.
It must have been fun driving the units, especially with such dramatically changing weather. All the trains I saw on the day of my trip were full, so I guess the extra units were needed. Were people using the midnight train for star gazing or was it still daylight?
It was nice driving the units and seeing the wildlife, unfortunately it was a tourist business and therefore did not pay union wages, even though we had to pay the railroad retirement fund instead of social security.The evening unit had to be back down by sunset, so those trips were mostly done in late July and early August. I don't know if they ever changed that policy after I left. Did you ride in the double unit or a single?
Still pretty much the same, 5:20 arrives back around 8:30 and usually spots at the depot right as it gets "night". No longer railroad retirement though.
I have to tell you how very much I enjoyed this (and the Ascent video too)! When I was a young girl MANY moons ago, the old-timers talked about the "Big Three" vacation destinations -- Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, and Pikes Peak. Now, of course, America west of the Mississippi has developed uncountable places to go and see and enjoy. Now that I'm in less than the best of health, I'm going to scratch PP off my bucket list, thanks to your videos. Though it's not like being there, it's good enough for me, and for that I thank you so much!
gomphrena -beautiful flower- I'm with you! Not a lot of money, and my health also keeps me away. These videos make this New Hampshire armchair traveller very happy (and I've never been to the Mt. Washington cog railway, either)! ☹️😱 (haha) God bless, Tim, and good luck with your next video!!
Rode this in 1978, then drove up a few days later--two different ways up the mountain on two different sides, ending in the same place. Can't believe it has been 40 years--wish I could do both again.
it's scary how quickly time passes, a least you have done the trip, the line has closed since this video was taken and we can only hope the maintenance issues can be resolved to get it up and running again.
as in the first video, this is really awesome, With the exception of passengers being RUDE by talking when the conductor was giving info. Her voice projection just isn't loud enough to drown out passengers who continue to ignore her and kept blabbing on. Otherwise, I DID enjoy the scenery. TNX
I'm pleased you enjoyed the scenery, the railway has been closed for two or more years to allow it to be revamped with new trains and upgraded track. It will be interesting to see if they introduce a driving cab with no forward view for passengers and a modern multi lingual headphone delivered commentary as has happened with so many other tourist attractions.
I love trains and all the train talk from the train operator. Would love to ride in an engine. I also love steam engines. I rode my behind #4 when she was still operating
@@archviewcondominium8512 Hi, I've enjoyed trains all my life, filming them and riding them gives me a reason to go places. I looked up #4, you were lucky to ride with such a wonderful steam locomotive - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-n_ZHfqmeApE.html
I wish the cameraman had gotten out and walked around the summit like the other passengers. I drove up once as a young man and still remember how dizzy I got from the thin air. Above 14,000 feet airplane pilots are required to use supplemental oxygen.
Hi, I did take a walk around at the summit and the air was thin. I shot this video at the same time as the driver's eye views, this one shows the views from the top - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ELPgzKuM3k8.html
Hi, Tim! Very interesting and original compact diesel engine, placed on roof of the train of this mountain train. And rail track itself gives the impression of a wide, but with rather thin and not very even rails, especially at station on the montain pass. Many thanks for this beautiful film!
Hi chuck, I'm glad you enjoyed the video, the track is standard gauge (1,435 mm (4 ft 8 1⁄2 in) and the rails do look light, probably because there are no heavy locomotives or high-speed trains requiring more substantial track. Even though the rails are a little uneven in places, the ride was generally good.
@James Patterson. Hmm... See please here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JdE8QydGRPk.html - at right, and here too: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aoLcEx9-BDo.html - at top. What is it, if it's not diesel engine placed on roof?..
On the diesel hydraulics, radiator and exhaust, on the diesel electrics, radiator and dynamic resistor banks. I work for the company, engines are cummins 855 inline 6's mounted pancake style under the floor. Nothing fancy.
The passenger picked up by the camera just happened to be sitting near to it and was unaware it recorded sound, he did get a few interesting answers from someone with good knowledge of the line who was sitting near by, I'm can't be sure, but it may have been the driver he was talking to.
Hello Tim, to me backride was more interesting because it great views. This time I noted most impressive views was at gorge scenery. - At summit gravel, down rocks, red mineral is called Pikes Peak granite called by location of first description. Mountain Pikes Peak consist almost entirely of this 1.08 billion old rock (Wikipedia). - Heinz
Hello Heinz, the return journey offers a completely different view, giving a better idea of the climb required to reach the peak. On the return, the gorge looked more dramatic than it did on the way up. Wikipedia is a great source of information, I use it a lot to check that my video descriptions are accurate.
This video is far superior to the one for the uphill journey. The views are better and lady singsong is much less in evidence. I found many of the comments the operator made interesting as well. Thanks for posting this.
You can't exactly get this view on the new trains since the new Stadler trains have separated locomotives, though you do have an unobstructed view going uphill.
Hi Karen, sorry I've been slow to reply. The new Stadler trains must be like most conventional cog rail trains. I really wish I could be there in person, travelling to the USA isn't too much of a problem, it's the returning home that is difficult with two weeks quarantine being part of the deal. I really looking forward to life returning to normal. Take care. Tim.
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I didn't watch the trip down, because the sappy, smug, over-acted, simpering, hammy, and frequently corny narration was so abominable on the way up that I couldn't face it again. I'm just amazed that the operators think this would add to the experience of the traveler. I'd love to take the trip one day, but if I do, it will be with noise-blocking headphones and an iPod.
The top of the mountain is above the tree line, too cold in winter for them too grow. For more information, please click on this link - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_line
The engines works as a brakes in this case,,, not using the mechaniocal brakes,,,for use the engines as a brakes,,a lot of huge resistors are used as electrical load,,,but this heat is high,,the resistors may be cooled,by a lot of air,or water.
in the case of the diesel hydraulics like this one it's a Voith Hydraulic retarder in the transmissions. Only the diesel electrics around here have resistor banks.
And, electrical braking of the sort would be called dynamic braking, on a diesel-electric. With a "straight"-electric, motors on axles could be used as generators to send power back on the line. Still a lot of energy to dissipate. Those Voith transmissions must have massive heat-exchangers, up in thin air.
Depot is at about 6,800 feet in elevation, summit is 14,115. a little over 7,000 feet in elevation gain. Average grade is 16.5%, maximum is 26% on devils slide coming off the summit.
if the departure is ai this elevation ,the gradient is correct as your answer,,,my misstake is suppose the departure was at approx 0m .you have rhe reason. .
Beautiful views, nice rough landscape. It must have been engineering on the edge to realise this track through all this rubble. Only downside is, it's diesel. Can' help disliking the black fumes. Well, that's just me.
The engineers faced a tough challenge, but their efforts allow large numbers of people to enjoy the awesome views without damaging the mountain's delicate Eco system. Electric might be preferable, but installing and maintaining the centenary may well cause a bigger carbon footprint than using diesels.
Yeah, steam would be a major improvement. Just kidding. Between the sulfur oxides and the smoky shmutz, how could it be worse? Turbocharged 4-stroke diesel (Cummins) definitely.
I'll check it out and get back to you by editing this comment - > I was joking about the native Indian woman though Minnehaha was a fictional character, as Wikipedia showed. Thanks for that! Cheers!
well you have heard of the pecking order of chickens just like there is always an idiot show off in every crowd have you ever noticed how many stupid people there are every where ??? its crazy world ........ i saw one video on black friday two women are fighting over a vacuum sweeper at wal mart because they both want the same thing i'm like really !!!!!!
The line closed shortly after this video was taken to replace the trains and upgrade the track, I wonder if they will use a modern, multi language headphone system or keep the current format when it re-opens to passengers in the near future. I know which I prefer.
Timsvideochannel1 I hope it actually does reopen! I want to go, too! I like the personal touch of the live narrative, although I might feel differently if I didn't speak English. You could always have one car that's silent (no narrative) for those that would rather meditate or something.
@@chrisobvious If you do visit Colorado, there are a number of wonderful railways all worth a look in, I joined a tour visiting the Railways of Colorado, it was one of the best tour groups I've had the pleasure to travel with. Most places I visit these days offer some sort of electronic tour guide, great for information in many languages, but lacking that human touch.
The driver comments that he couldn't let his girlfriend move and not be without her - so he followed her. Is her name "Sierra?" LOL (and did she go to the Disney World Tour Guide School of nonsense?)
Hola, me alegro de que te haya gustado la vista, voy a visitar este ferrocarril de nuevo, tal vez me permitan colocar la cámara en el exterior del tren.
@@Timsvideochannel1 Eso sería genial porque se podrían ver bien los precipicios. Y cómo es un tren al que jamás me subiría (cómo no fuera atada de pies y manos), tengo que agradecerte muchísimo la posibilidad de hacer ese viaje. Esperando novedades ya me suscribí.
@@sizumakamiru9479 Hola, hice 2 videos más mostrando este ferrocarril cuando visité - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ELPgzKuM3k8.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JdE8QydGRPk.html Gracias por suscribirse, espero que encuentre más videos para ver.
Meine Güte, das ist eine Fernsehsendung aus der Vergangenheit. Ich denke, Dr. Quinn wäre sehr überrascht gewesen, im Jahr 1867 einen Zug zu sehen. Es ist so lange her, seit ich dieses Fernsehdrama das letzte Mal gesehen habe, dass ich es nachschlagen musste - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dr._Quinn,_Medicine_Woman_episodes
did this guy NOT know how to speak normally? Did he HAVE to shout every word out? Wasn't a minute in and I was already like "Shut the Hell UP!" "course he wouldn't have heard it, I know. But DANG, man!
I think the guy you can hear was the driver talking to some of the passengers, he had to speak up to be heard, he had some interesting stuff to say and he wasn't to know the camera placed next to him would make him sound louder than he really was.
Hi, I always appreciate feedback, narration is something I can't make my mind up about. My trouble is that I don't like the sound of my own voice, there are times when I wish I had help and maybe someone to research and do the narration for me.
