Pillars Of Eternity 2: Deadfire 

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Pretty please!

Pathfinder is SO much better than PoE. I ended up pretty much speedrunning through PoE because I had high hopes for PoE2.. Turns out it was even more of a disappointing incohesive mess. Fan-fic Baldur's Gate with nothing interesting to offer. A world/story so generic, yet simultaneously introspective that it never pulls you in: So many cross-references to gods, characters and locations you don't even give a shit about.

It astounds me that people can shit on PoE's story while holding up garbage like Pathfinder. I feel like I'm in clown world.

@Terror I actually couldn't listen to his biased bitchy voice throughout the video. I think I endured to about 30-40 mins. I already saw that 90% of his criticism came from personal preference and he clearly does not like the pathfinder-ruleset.

TOEE would give you all 18s if you roll 1000 times.

Pillars 2 have the best game mechanic in any rpg i ever playd in the past 20+ years

Why didn't he mention multiclassing in the vid??

Playing at a higher difficulty yields tremendously better rewards

You can also make them go away peacefully. Which is why I choose, because the Naga haven't done anything wrong. I mean, they have killed some Rauatai, but Rauatai aren't people :P (this is my Bleakwalker talking, not me!)

@@WideNerdy I disagree, mainly because the primary story structure was mostly regarding the interactions between the various factions, which I found pretty engaging. At least I think it did a better job of fleshing out the world than the first game.

@@WideNerdy In terms of the trading companies, I guess the Valians are more like the Venetians while the Royal Deadfire company is more like the British East India Company, along with the Empire itself. The Valians are interested in whatever will bring them more money, while the Royal Deadfire Company is interested in military expansion. I don't really see how those are "functionally the same." They are two very different approaches to colonialism. Also the Huana definitely aren't socialists. They just have an indigenous view of resources. Honestly I think the biggest problem is that the game basically lets you finish all of their storylines up until the very last decision. Its not a perfect game, but I do think it does a few things a lot better than the first. After 80 hours I still didn't feel like I had a great understanding of the world and its functions. I did basically every quest, along with the DLC as well as read most of the books. Deadfire does a much better job of fleshing out the world outside of the Deadfire in particular. Still, the hook of the 1st game's story is much better and Deadfire definitely takes longer for things to get going.

@@WideNerdy Shocking that you understood anything from any part of these games if that was "too long" but ok

this comment is a year old, but I agree with everything you said 100 percent. I do think it is a shame that he didnt finish pillars 1 before reviewing this. If you play through the first game, theres an attactchment you have to the world that makes the 2nd game so much better. Of course its always cool to see reoccuring characters too. The game not only makes you feel like your choices in deadfire matter, but that your choices in the dyrwood did too. It just feels like a truely epic fantasy adventure that spans worlds and realms. Something usually only novel series can accomplish. Which ties into what you said about the lack of voice acting and animations giving devs exponentially more freedom when writing dialogue. A lot of people criticised Pillars 1 for being slow or having too much reading/exposition, but for me that was one of its strong points. Its a shame that big budget AAA games have made people turned off by the fact a game isnt voice acted, or is from a top down perspective. Theres just certain things you wouldnt be able to do in a AAA game that you can in a game like pillars. This is especially pointed out with the recent release of cyberpunk. Though the game isnt bad at all, its not very good at being an RPG. In fact, I dont even think the game should be conisdered one. The fact they voice acted your character means dialogue choices are extremely limited, and you cant really decide your characters personality at all or....even roleplay, which is the point of a roleplaying game. Sometimes more ends up being less. Its a shame that Pillars 2 sold so poorly, and it really does break my heart we're probably never gonna get a pillars 3. Deadfire felt like the refinement of what they had created in the first game, and i really feel like they could have perfected it with a 3rd game. I guess these types of games dont really have much mass appeal at all these days, and that makes it hard to be a fan of them because they come so rarely. Especially with obsidian now being owned by microsoft, i doubt obsidian will make a game like pillars again. I guess we have Avowed, which is gonna be set in the pillars universe, but the gameplay and presentation probably wont be as wordy and nerdy. Apparently its "their skyrim", so i expect a very safe AAA type game with not a lot of reading, lots of voice acting, and a larger focus on presentation. Which is the exact opposite of what made me love pillars. I also agree with your comment on him accepting the world for what it is, a lot who reviewed this game didnt do that. I saw so many people get caught up on the whole pirate thing. I understand it might now appeal to you, but its such a tiny fraction of the game that it doesnt matter if you dont like it anyway. Sailing on your ship and interacting with pirates is maybe 5% of the game. The faction conflicts feel underappreciated to me, a lot seemed to pass it up. The political setting is really interesting to me. It wasn't just a generic story of "bad colonizers killing native people". The colonizers and the natives are actually the same race of people, which is a twist. The huana and ruatains were seperated by the cataclysmic event that reset eora. It ties into the games themes so well. Race doesnt define a person, their culture does. That even ties into the attribute system, which lets you have more freedom in who you play. You dont have to follow stereotypes of "im a wizard so im smart and weak" because all stats are useful to all builds. Basically, no one, and nothing is so black and white taken to an extreme level.

Pretty sure They can handel it

I am stoked. If anyone can do this game justice, it's them. I just hope they use turn-based combat :)

@@StratEdgyProductions I will be happy with both real time with pause or turn based combat. Personally I love real time a lot more due to the freedom it gives.

@@StratEdgyProductions why turn base i think swing weapon and miss is fun like acarnum

It depends. Pillars does the shit wrong. Like, the combat is slow in real time and if you speed it up, you die before you can react. Just not a fan. I should do a quick video about Real Time with Pause.

listening to wodica at all shows who finished the first game or not.

@@megamike15 eh, i worked with Woedica in both games, it aligned with my character

You know what... I didn't think of that. I played my second time with a rogue and INT and Resolve wasn't important because the point was to one-hit for the assassin build so your status effects didn't need to stay up past one round. That's a good point.

@@StratEdgyProductions rogues are disgustingly strong, get good magic weapons and everythong dies in one hit

I also think Monks can get away with lower int, but only because they can increase it with an ability. Also, the way this game handles summons (with the enemy prioritizing them) makes Monks way tankier than they should be.

Oh, lol. I didn't notice that :(

I've been scrolling to make sure someone let him know.

Can you explain a bit? Why wael in particular?

@@nenadmilovanovic5271 I actually don't remember if it was paladin or priest, It's the one that asks you to choose a god right, anyways, Wael is the god of mysteries and the occult, he rewards his followers for creating or unraveling secrets and after getting into it, I basing all of my characters decisions on this, I would lie to everyone and seek out truth only for myself, I would mislead people just for the hell of it, there's even a quest where Wael himself asks you to fuck with his own order of priests and hide their scrolls and relics just to create mysteries and encourage new seekers. I really iked how the simple act of choosing this god led to a playthrough with so much personality for me, it made it so much more memorable than the other character I played, wich had no attachments to the lore of world. Good ol roleplayin fun

@@raioh4747 that actually sounds amazing. Paladin must choose a god so I guess I am doing a paladin playthrough now. Thank you!

I also played as a rogue with streetwise which those 2 really helped me. Dexterity perception and resolve.

@@artisanmage5378riposte go brrr

There's several dialog options when speaking to woedica and if you are of the Garotte she acknowledges you as her "beloved" and you recognize her as your rightful queen. There's also a mission for the Oathbreakers where your allegiance plays a big part in how the mission ends.

@@StratEdgyProductions Sounds interesting, maybe I should give the game another try with all these patches.

Interactivity based on class, race, and background is definitely lopsided. Counter to your situation, my Pale Elf Ghost Heart/Ascendant from The White that Wends was spoiled rotten with dialogue options and references.

@@JT-iv7ju I find that curious, considering that the game has nothing to do with the white that wends and Pale Elves. Valians on the other hand have a lot to do with the game, and even if My Character was from Old Valia and not from the Republics, there should've been something, at the very least when dealing with the Valian Trading Company, and since I WAS a Darcozzi Paladin, there absolutely should've been at least SOMETHING with that one particular Ghost Ship captain. But there was nothing.

@@khatack Yeah, like I said, the reactions aren't measured evenly. There's a chart out there that shows all of them - Priest of Magran has more dialogue options than Eothas.

you're right technically but in reality of the story they might as well not be considered a faction and just generic enemy mobs

I would like to review it. I got stuck on my first playthrough when my Kingdom borked. Now that they've patched, I might give it another try.

@@StratEdgyProductions great to here, I have yet to beat it but the fixes definitely seemed to have stabilized the game.

Eh, it's still a fun combat system. Besides, it's a balanced choice between more crew experience and more loot. Fair enough in my eyes.

Hu'ana

Nice. I like the head guy..he usually does good vids and clearly knows his shit. I think I describe the dream scenario for ship combat above, but your post caught my eye because I ended with saying it was probably the money that prevented it. I'm shocked that ship combat the way they did it was still so expensive that it still topped everything else in cost. That's nuts.

It's from Deadfire.

Yeah, I thought I was going crazy for a second there.

If Pathfinder would ever implement Turn-Based, they would need to do something about the random encounters. It would be absolutely infuriating since turn-based is so slow. Yes, JRPGS are absolutely infuriating games.

@@aloneaflame9343 I think that encounter and level design will change drastically. It is two totally different approaches.

It's unfortunate that Kingmaker's modded turn-based mode is still better than the official mode for Deadfire. PoE's ruleset was never designed for discrete turns, while the tabletop version of Pathfinder was.

You don't have to play poe1 at all to play this game.

It isn't that connected tbh.

also as others have said, intellect is far from a dump stat. the first game had more attribute checks but they moved away from it because it was double dipping in a poor way, that's what the passive skills are for

Seriously. That sounds like a miserable bunch of players to be at a table with.

Paladins can be dicks, to be honest. Especially if you are playing with evil characters. The group I play with usually blow themselves up before they finish their missions due to fucking each other over. It's fun to see what people do in those situations.

@@SARKLEY I don't know, there's always cancer.

Haha, I like both :p

TB is for pussies

@delosombres it wont be deeper and it can get predictable