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@@gfxb3177 I don’t think it’s fighting games in particular. A few hundred hours of rocket league and your ps4 controller is gonna drift. Source: have way too many nearly broken ps4 controllers.
I use a combination of the d-pad and the left analog stick for Tekken 7, it works really well. But I think you should never rely on the left analog stick alone, only as an assistant.
Same, I use D-pad for everything except for f, half circle forward type commands. I just jump to the stick real quick and throw it in there, usually buffered with jabs or something.
@@liu3chan When playing on 1p side, your thumb is extremely close to the left analog stick, right? Let's say I want to wavedash, I do f on the d-pad then d,df on the left analog stick. Try this: ch df+2 with Kazuya, then f on the d-pad followed by df+2 with the left analog stick. I find it much more accurate and consistent than using the d-pad to do f then picking my thumb up and pressing it back down onto df. I basically just flick my thumb down onto the left analog stick immediately after pressing f on the d-pad.
@@rossmanmagnus like I said, I'm not lifting my finger I'm flicking it down. Technically it would be faster to use the d-pad for every input, but it's less accurate. To do cuz he is perfect electric for example you must have at least one frame of neutral, which means you have to pick your thumb up off the d-pad. In this scenario it is much more accurate and much faster to Simply flick your thumb down to the left analog stick.
I will be honest, it’s miles easier for me to play with analog compared to the d-pad. Especially quarter and half circle inputs. For example, it’s fine for me to play Tekken on a d-pad but if I play someone who needs to consistently do motion inputs, I go with analog. GGS I played with analog all the time
Thanks for telling me the hard truth. I've been playing SF6 as my first fighting game and as a big Soulsborne/racing/platformer enjoyer I've gotten so used to using the thumbstick for literally everything. However, I had so much trouble pulling off even a single special move let alone a combo I was actually getting frustrated. I'll use the dpad from now on. But probably I'll order a stick.
Pls dont stop posting, all of your videos are just pure helpful and informative and because im knew to fgames im literally learning Something know every 10 minutes, i have to binge all this but i also got to rewatch some of your stuff, thank you so much!!!!!!
Thanks for this video dude! I’m new to fighting games and I’ve been using the analog stick for guilty gear strive. There are certain inputs I could not hit consistently and I had a feeling the Dpad was probably the way to go. I tried it and it felt a bit awkward but definitely more reliable. This video helped confirm my suspicions and gave me the confidence that mastering the Dpad will be worth the effort in the long run. Thanks again man!
Strive with analog is honestly fine. The only games to really have me doubt my analog loyalty were Uniclr(Definitely an easier game with fight stick) and Tekken(kbd on analog stick makes my thumb want to fall off and die)
It's so weird that I'm usually the outlier in my friends group when it comes to Dpad vs Analog in fighting games. Must explain why I'm usually top 3 at any fighting game we pick up in the group 😎
I wonder why arcade sticks are so expensive when they're far simpler to manufacture than your average analog gamepad these days... I would absolutely ditch analog stick if the gate wasn't so highly paywalled. What sucks is that Sony is pretty much the only company that makes rolling dpads standard on their controllers, so for any other pad user dpad also just isn't an option as they make motion inputs far more difficult than necessary
The problem is the xbox controller d-pad (which is what i play on) is in an awkward place on the controller to use comfortably for gaming unless it's in a menu
As much as i love the dualshock, the dpad is ATROCIOUS. I will give the xbox controller praise for the tactile feedback the dpad gives. If only sony would take a hint
@@squidee the tactile feedback on the xbox is the problem. If it were smooth and each direction was disconnected instead of one chunky cross button like the ps4 it would be so much better.
@@squideeagreed, out of the modern consoles the XBox has the best dpad. I've always always hated the Dualshock dpad, it hurts my thumb and is awkward on diagonals. The best dpad ever is still the Sega one tho. I want a Genesis controller.
I agree with this, but my mind was changed when I started using the Hori Fighting Commander OCTA for PS5. They made an eight gated analog stick and its amazing. It's like a miniature fight stick with my thumb. I recommend this for players who like using thumbsticks
@@MasterShake too late brotha. I only use my Xbox for Dead by Daylight so it wouldn’t make much sense.. Alrhough my R3 button is already getting stuck on my PS5 ver. I just ordered a Fightstick and called it a day lmao. Honestly it is good tho just not worth $60
@@Itslewcario ah well i play on PC and i got it a year ago or so but it's doing very well for me, just kind of odd finding out that i am appearantly one of the few that likes using analog instead of dpad.
When I played SF4 on pad I always used the analog stick I found motions easier to do with it and my thumb didnt get as sore compared to using the Dpad. The main downside I personally found with analog stick was with dashing. I switched to arcade stick when I could afford to get one since I played SF4 in the arcade a lot and found motions easy on it without the downside of having trouble with dashes
In my first few month of playing fighting games, i used to play with both the d-pad and the analog stick. The d-pad was for movement and The analog stick was for the special moves. Now I'm good enough to use the d-pad alone.
Hmm i don't know, so far i've been using Switch pro controller and i always preferred it over D-pad or my mixbox pad. I have thin fingers so my movement are quite precise and the analog is just so comfortable
I am trying switch to d pad buttons from analog stick. Currently, it feels like both of them have pros and cons. Analog is faster but less accurate. Buttons is more accurate if you slow down your pace. Also pressing a button one after another is more faster. For example in tekken, making kazuya's leaping kick (three forward + 3) much more easy and reliable. But i can't do wavedash, EWGF, Hellsweep kind of movements with buttons.
I feel like Analog would be fine if modern sticks still had octagonal gates like the N64, GameCube and Wii Classic Controller Pro. Like using Ryu in Smash Bros with a GameCube Analog stick feels weird (which is why I don't use him in Smash Bros) but the octagonal gate at least makes it somewhat feasible since the gate has indents for each of the 8 directions you need, and since using traditional motion inputs makes your attacks stronger than just pressing B there's an incentive to at least try. But modern Analog sticks have a circular gate and it throws directional inputs straight out the window. Like it doesn't fix deadzone and snapback issues but still, it helped a lot. Having said that I use a Genesis style 6 button controller with a Dpad so I will concede that Dpad is better out of the box since you don't need to do tweaking to compensate for the aforementioned snapback and deadzones.
This is going to sound weird but I've been playing fighting games with the left thumbstick my whole life such as Dead or alive Mortal Kombat Street fighter Tekken dragon Ball fighterz marvel versus Capcom rumble roses you name it it's just the easiest way to perform special moves that requires diagonal input doing it with a d-pad is pretty difficult and some of my friends and family members criticize me very harshly for using the left thumbstick for fighting games rather than using the d-pad it's anyone's choice how they play fighting games no one has the right to criticize how we play fighting games if you want to play fighting games with a d-pad go right ahead I won't stop you even on PC I still play fighting games with the left thumbstick I don't use the keyboard because it's too hard for me to perform special moves that's all I'm going to say
I've definitely spent more of my time gaming using analog stick than d-pad. For fighting games, doing inputs on d-pad requires more strength and energy for me because of the physical resistance of the buttons and having to press into the controller. Neither of those things exist using analog stick, so I can do inputs faster. Not being precise with an analog stick sounds like a skill issue to me. ;)
I prefer controller with analog, but I’m switching over to a fighting stick for Tekken.. Being able to use more than my thumb for inputs will save my hand, controllers, and brain from unnecessary stress in the long term!
I started new with fighting games and instinctively used the analog stick because I almost never used the d pad for any game. The biggest problem I had with it was doing a down block because moving the stick exactly in the bottom left corner in a fast movement was hard. Most of the time it was recognized as just a left or just a down movement. Now I'm trying to get used to the d pad which feels more reliable. I'm thinking about to get a fighting stick but I'm kinda afraid that it could be not comfortable for me
I find that I'm able to input special moves more consistently with analog. Maybe because I have been playing samsh bros as terry all the time. But with movement, like dashes, I usually use the dpad.
I don't know I think that it's actually whatever you're comfortable with that is the best option. I think there are people at all levels who use different methods of playing. Although admittedly some controller configurations work better than others.. whatever gets you to win at the end of the day is best.
For me, the whole reason I even got a controller for my computer was cause of using it for fighting games. I just can't use those kinds of digital controls for them. I have to use analog as anything other than simple up, down, left, right I find bloody unusable.
I want to get more into fighting games but I can't seem to get comfortable on any "normal" controllers. With both a d-pad and stick (I bought a cheap MayFlash arcade stick) my hands just start to cramp up after only a couple of minutes of playing. Maybe I should look into these hitbox controllers but I don't really wanna spend 200+ euro on one.
Okay i understand but im the only who use the left analog only for fighting game I don't like using the d pad it just feel weird and i not fast enough to the special move but on the analog i can do motions input and neatherrealm input better it alot easiest for me to do combos also i not mean i understand what you trying say in the video it a amazing video which i like it but i just prefer analog the only time i use the d pad to do down down input and dash but amazing video
I'm left handed so using the thumb stick for movement is okay, I actually prefer it, but I do have a problem with shoulder buttons, since my right hand is slower and limited, I have dificult using the middle finger in the trigger button, which in SF language would be the HK, sometimes my finger doesn't even move and I drop combos all the time, I wish there was a controller with a thumb stick for movement and arcade buttons in the right, but not like those adapted controllers like de sega genesis one with 6 buttons, I wantes a LITERAL arcade control but instead of a traditional stick, it would have a thumb stick poping out of the side of the control like a wii nunchuk XD
i use analog for my mighty ruler lee and at this point im very used to it. if i could find a good dpad with disconnected buttons for pc i would probably use that. obviously on analog you can get accidental up/downs when trying to do a forward input, but, for me, when that happens on dpad it is beyond frustrating
I'm just so used to analog I find d-pad so awkward. But I friggin suck with all the misinputs so I decided to buy a d-pad fighting controller. I hope I can get used to it.
You CAN use analog stick to play fighting games. In fact, EndingWalker is using the analog stick on his Xbox controller, because the Xbox d-pad is too hard to press and easy to make mistakes with. The DualShock controller's analog stick is too stiff for fighting games. So use analog stick for the Xbox controller, d-pad for the DualShock controller. All you need is practice:)
I use my analog for all my fighting games and I'm a pretty advance player. It takes a certain amount of skill to be able to play with the analog stick. Back in the days people made fun of gamers using keyboard for fighting games but look at the hitbox revolution today.
Spent two days tring to perform double quoter circle movement in sf6. achived it only maybe 3 times. but when i try to do it via analog stick i do it 80% of the time. I don't want to spend a week or more in training room just to figure out how to do it using dpad!
I play DBFZ with analog and even tho i'm really good, i can clearly feel the disadvantage i am at, specially when playing SF or Skullgirls, wich use more traditional command specials, now i have 3 years of experience playing on analog, sadly, i have to learn d pad if i want to play other games unu
I think stick is more helpful in tekken because many arcades dont have controller if u have practice on stick them u can beat the pros of tekken at that arcade + a stick player alwasy have advantage the movement of stick playwr is always faster than the d pad player
@@zoey2262 i thought on a hitbox you pressed a button for diagonal forward that's interesting 🤔 In general tho im too used to controller now and it would be stupid to go to controller after investing in a stick I like the lever for sf
@@sharkyslegoandotherstuff yeah it works exactly the same as a hitbox if u have a good keyboard, there's no reason to a hitbox unless u like the buttons or smth idk (or travel a lot but i cant lie im not doing allat)
@@zoey2262 went to a comp today and saw someone with a keyboard that had all the keys removed besides the needed keys and it had a Photoshopped "shitbox" logo lmao
Its the complete opposite for me, I've been using the analog for fighting games for years, i can't use the dpad at all, it feels too weird for me. What helps with analog, are those controllers that have the octagonal gate, which helps smoothly control that direction in the analog. I tried to do i-nos movements with dpad, it felt horrible overall, I'm considering getting the victrix pro controller for the octagonal gate as well
3:18 Can someone send this memo to Sonicfox, Punk, IDom and Smug? Some of the best players in their field who also mainly use pad. I'm not sure but I think they use stick.
I mean, i believe you can build the muscle memory to use an analog stick if you really want to. I use an arcade stick for fighting games, but I use an analog stick on controller when i play thps which people also consider blasphemous. For some reason using a dpad hurts my thumb joint, so i one day just began using the analog stick and i feel like i got just as good over time. Like yeah iwr would technically be disadvantageous, but so is ewgf on arcade stick vs dpad for example, everything will have some kind of down side. except hitbox i guess idk....nerds
People trash me for using an analog stick for fighting games but I'm so used to playing with them and not a D-pad that playing with anything else, including a lever, actually makes my arm hurt.
mk1 need a good keyboard. never has i had problems doing inputs , however Mk1 is very picky for me. so i start now on keyboard, that worked for stf6 for me, anyway i had no problems there, but at least keyboard made me faster on Stf6
I'm one of the best 3rd strike players ever to play the game (at least in the top 5 in the world) and I used an analog stick for tournaments! lol The only dpad I ever loved was the sega 6 button controller dpad
lol this is funny because for two years now and hundreds of hours now on both tekken 7 and 8 i have no stick drift and im consistent and fast on electrics, and i can do perfect electrics somewhat consistently. if it works it works
i follow a thumb stick player named mwkan7 that does consistently +15 shakunetsus in tekken with akuma, pewgf, instant wr and hard combos with qcf+1 with paul. I use a korean stick tho. Dont play with thumbsticks kids.
Начиная с street fighter 4 и до момента выхода sf6 я всегда использовал стик а не крестовину на геймпаде от Xbox, и достаточно хорошо играю :) крестовину использую лишь для быстрых передвижений и отмененных атаках
Reminds me playing Cuphead my youngest brother - he uses the thumbstick. With that said, he's almost beaten the game doing so, so I gotta give credit where it's due, that's impressive. lol
HELP what is the game at 0:42? I remember playing it as a kid but forgot its name, I've many times tried to find it again but searching "fighting game with the ooze character" hasn't been helpful. This time the video helped me remember the snowman character and now I found the game again! It's called clayfighter for those interested, cheers.
I've been using analog for street fighter 6 and honestly for me its the best way to play it even for charge characters i use and arcade stick for everyother sf but for whatever reason with 6 I've been doing well with the analog stick maybe I'll hit a glass ceiling and move back to arcade stick or move to dpad but for now im doing pretty well with the analog stick
i just reached plat with the analog stick on ps4 controller. honestly im so used to it that it would require a loooott of effort to switch to d-pad. i dont mind tho putting in the effort im just trying to confirm first whether d pad is 100% better than analog
Well my nentendo switch dpad sucks especially after i put on some silicone case type of skin or protective cover on it so yeah dpad im it is like absolute shit so i have to rely on analog stick
i only use the analog for tekken 6 (we dont have a ps4 or a pc good enough to handle anything but minecraft bedrock) because i cant do electrics with the d pad. my ps4 controller d pad only does 4 directions. i don't know why but it's frustrating
I can't do the double quarter circle or the half circle💀 Man that's why half your genre players are 40 yo dads The hardest thing in your game being the fucking inputs is insane like i know the mind games between the players and reading the game is so fun and i really wanna try it, BUT HAVING TO MASTER THESE THUMB GYMNASTICS TO JUST MOVE THE FUCKING CHARECTER AND DOING BASIC THINGS IS INSANE
I started off playing Smash before I moved on to other fighting games (SF, Tekken, GG, etc) though since I had been used to trying to be as precise as possible with analogue, I stuck with it through so many years. Just recently I switched to D-Pad to see if it actually helped... and my god is it so much better lol. Not like I was even used to D-Pad with other games, most other games I play use the analogue stick, but just after like a week on D-Pad I was already more consistent at so many inputs. I still prefer analogue on Smash and other platform fighters, but for everything else it's muuuuch worse. Glad I switched.
Ι broke the silicon pad for the dpad on my ps4 controller, and for games like tekken 7 and scvi, its decent? Id still rather play with dpad. But for brawlhalla, what used to be and kind of still is my main game, ive dropped soooo many moves. fuck analog stick for that