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Pokémon is one of the most successful media franchises in the world. I investigated why, starting from the hypothesis that it has a LOT in common with criminal confidence scams.

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@clintrogers1436
@clintrogers1436 4 года назад
Kid used a bullshit gameshark'd party with Mewtwo. My comp was Mr. Mime (Psychic, Solar Beam, Thunderbolt, and Substitute), Mewtwo, and Dragonite. Like he even had the gameshark on him not even hiding it.
@kotaku
@kotaku 4 года назад
Clint Rogers i genuinely believe you today in 2019 though i sorta didn’t back then lmao
@Schmorgle
@Schmorgle 4 года назад
This is the Gran Turismo of Comment Section Entertainment.
@PandaXs1
@PandaXs1 4 года назад
man I asked if I could use Mew, but they told me they had to check mine and said I couldn't use it (cloned it from a friend who said he won the contest, but I guess he lied about that lol). I'm guessing by the time the tournament got around to where I lived they started actually checking for unlicensed Mews.
@fredo3161
@fredo3161 4 года назад
Did you fight him? Not in the game - in real life?
@THEAmateurSommelier
@THEAmateurSommelier 4 года назад
Good. GameShark is good for you. So is making the New York Yankees win the World Series.
@nvrndingsmmr
@nvrndingsmmr 4 года назад
"Questions are sentences for ignorant people." -Tim Rogers, 2019
@davidebrownii
@davidebrownii 4 года назад
I lost it at "Shields are for cowards, Swords kill", it was the gunshot afterwards that honestly got me.
@Ipsen13
@Ipsen13 4 года назад
I read this comment BEFORE the video got to this line, and I was still unprepared for how hilarious this was. Setup: immaculate.
@anonony9081
@anonony9081 Год назад
Questions are sentences for ignorant people
@aka_jr
@aka_jr 4 года назад
"Design is older than conscious thought. Art is not" Your old colleague has bars.
@NickLysander
@NickLysander 4 года назад
Clicking Kotaku is like a slot machine. The sound of "HELLO" has surpassed clinking coins for a dopamine high.
@snouken
@snouken 4 года назад
This was incredible. I have no idea if he likes it or not but I had a good time with his mad rambling
@canisdivinus6218
@canisdivinus6218 3 года назад
Didn't you hear him? I think he honestly and sincerely loves pokemon
@freindmaker4473
@freindmaker4473 Год назад
the video's called "why it's good". pretty clear lmao
@pikaboom6539
@pikaboom6539 Год назад
@@freindmaker4473 eh, not really. The content of the video leads me to believe that he is making a hilariously forced devils advocate argument.
@freindmaker4473
@freindmaker4473 Год назад
@@pikaboom6539 i mean yeah, his argument is silly but i think he enjoys the games
@pikaboom6539
@pikaboom6539 Год назад
@@freindmaker4473 no, I don’t think so. I think he’s making an argument for them, but the compliments are made in such a manner that shows that no matter how you talk about Pokémon, it’s shortcomings cannot be suppressed. The cuts to the policeman laughing maniacally with his soulless clown eyes as he talks over the animation on repeat just sort of subconsciously drives the point home, too.
@vargasprime094
@vargasprime094 4 года назад
Sid "Sid Meier's Civilization" Meier was a good gag.
@SpencerSoares
@SpencerSoares 4 года назад
encouraging confidence in a children’s video game is particularly interesting as children are not generally given choices that balloon out to affect every decision of their life. or i suppose they are given those choices but shielded from them as much as possible. pokemon teaches kids confidence. i love it
@kotaku
@kotaku 4 года назад
yeah, it's genuinely great!
@mechamonkeymancityboat7785
@mechamonkeymancityboat7785 Год назад
That's how they getcha
@danipo8658
@danipo8658 4 года назад
In my years of playing Pokemon, I have NEVER kept defensive techniques over Offensive ones
@kotaku
@kotaku 4 года назад
yeah, me neither! though i did get completely owned once by someone who did lol
@vernontk
@vernontk 4 года назад
If you play in "Shift Mode", there's hardly any reason to!
@LegendaryMythril
@LegendaryMythril 4 года назад
it's only really relevant for multiplayer, just like the X items only make sense if you're a speedrunner
@higherlearning9386
@higherlearning9386 4 года назад
@@kotaku Your whole career is defensive techniques over offensive ones
@canosisplays5152
@canosisplays5152 4 года назад
Haven’t played a lot of pvp huh?
@SmoothRiker
@SmoothRiker 4 года назад
You made me realize why I always seem to get so stressed when I get to the middle of the game. The middle of the game is like the event horizon of the decision-making black hole.
@octocoq
@octocoq 4 года назад
Now we, like the butcher who got too close to his work, enter the meat. LMAO
@BennyPowers
@BennyPowers 4 года назад
I'm already nostalgic for Tim Rogers youtube for when I'll be old and grey
@pav1506
@pav1506 4 года назад
Am I the only one who thought bede was an old lady. Plot twist he's a young boy
@gho5trun3r68
@gho5trun3r68 4 года назад
I still kept thinking the game was pulling something on me. Even in "his" challenger uniform, I still thought it was a girl.
@aatired7307
@aatired7307 3 года назад
Considering his plot line, I think it was intentional
@nhall129
@nhall129 4 года назад
I hope “the gran turismo of...” becomes a thing forever
@sergnb0
@sergnb0 4 года назад
It's the dark souls of game analogies
@MrNineties
@MrNineties 4 года назад
I'm frightened by that prospect, as it would seem the development cycle at PD is a nightmare hellscape these days...
@salemite
@salemite 4 года назад
This is the Gran Turismo of youtube comments.
@salemite
@salemite 4 года назад
@@sergnb0 This is the Minecraft of realizations.
@pdthorn
@pdthorn 4 года назад
“Histrionically”
@chin_777
@chin_777 4 года назад
This video feels like a chat with an old friend who I am meeting up with for the first time in years. The loop of that cop laughing is absolutely horrifying though
@Puffy_Mario
@Puffy_Mario 4 года назад
That part with the loud gunshot made me jump and then start laughing.
@Gatorw77
@Gatorw77 4 года назад
No, I’m Tim Rogers.
@bennyfactor
@bennyfactor 4 года назад
Tim, I also lost in the first round of the pokemon tournament at that shopping mall in Indianapolis. I feel your brother's pain, having metaphorically brought six metapods to a bird fight. Even before you mentioned that anecdote, though, this video brought back pleasant memories of those heady days of pokemon red and blue. Thanks, boss.
@leftheavy.
@leftheavy. 4 года назад
Wait... did... did Tim choose the backing track “Down by the Riverside” because it specifically references laying down their “sword” and “shield?”
@kotaku
@kotaku 4 года назад
yes!!!!!! i also had the battle hymn of the republic in here at one point (simply because of the word "sword") though i swapped it out for the star spangled banner lol
@dontiswhervin9396
@dontiswhervin9396 4 года назад
Genius🤣
@leftheavy.
@leftheavy. 4 года назад
Ha! I love it! While I’m 1/3rd starstruck by you replying, I’m 2/3rds immensely appreciative and consistently blown away by all all the little details you include in your retrospectives. Thanks for all you do!
@Squalltiduscloud
@Squalltiduscloud 4 года назад
What is the music going on around the 3:00 mark? I know I know it but it’s driving me crazy trying to remember.
@leftheavy.
@leftheavy. 4 года назад
Squalltiduscloud it’s the old ragtime classic, “The Entertainer.” It’s a staple of old-time piano music and has been included in more films and shows to count. It was also the jingle of the ice cream truck that sped past my childhood home without stopping on its way to the rich neighborhood... so hopefully that answers your question.
@lcorr2000
@lcorr2000 4 года назад
Thanks for such an insightful and funny take on the basic mechanics that makes Pokémon sink its teeth into me even after all theses years.
@johnnyfitzlive
@johnnyfitzlive 4 года назад
Ya’ll really need to put Tim’s name front and center in the video’s title.
@midknight1339
@midknight1339 4 года назад
I mean, Tim's thumbnails are unique enough for this not to be necessary
@johnnyfitzlive
@johnnyfitzlive 4 года назад
​@@midknight1339 The title card was the only thing that made me click, hoping it was a Tim video. I'm a recent sub to the channel, and honestly have no idea what their other "non-Tim" title cards look like. While I'm sure some of their other videos are great, I'm only really here for Tim right now. It's like if the Escapist didn't put the words Zero Punctuation or mention his name in any of Yahtzee's videos. This guy is their most popular personality, and properly branding his videos is only going to help that.
@junebunchanumbers
@junebunchanumbers 4 года назад
Tim "Tim Roger's Pokemon: Why It's Good" Rogers.
@SevenFingerDiscount
@SevenFingerDiscount 4 года назад
Tim Rogers: Why It's Good: The Game: The (Grand Turismo of) Video(s)
@audiobusting
@audiobusting 4 года назад
Tim, I hope you'll also get to check out the other 2019 Dreamcast game, Shenmue III!
@kotaku
@kotaku 4 года назад
audiobusting ah, yes, that was my joke-i might have some thoughts on that soon!
@PizzaDinosaur
@PizzaDinosaur 4 года назад
"Dreamcast game" is the highest praise a gameliker can heap upon a game
@Valius_
@Valius_ 4 года назад
Thanks for all you do, Tim! Your videos brighten my day. :)
@jasonlee1337
@jasonlee1337 4 года назад
omg positive yet contrarian opinion on Kotaku? Must be Tim Rogers. "Hello, and welcome to Video Games..." Yup.
@pwnedd11
@pwnedd11 4 года назад
I've said this before, but the choice of music in these videos is amazing -- both from a purely musical perspective and a cinematic "What music goes well with what scene?" perspective. Bravo, Tim!!!!!!!! I thought I remembered you saying you were designing a JRPG... maybe I imagined that... but I can't wait for your musical choices in that venture (if and/or when you make that game!)!!!
@nootmcscairy
@nootmcscairy 4 года назад
Hilarious and informative. Great ending too. Thanks Tim!
@osunightfall
@osunightfall 4 года назад
Love your stuff, Tim. Also, your FFVII translation series made me cry. And makes me cry every time I think about it. Just... thought I'd share that. Keep up the fine work.
@cube2fox
@cube2fox 4 года назад
I teared up when reading his "what we might mean when we say a clock is wrong".
@yagob
@yagob 4 года назад
Every friday I'm fuckin burned out by a lot of boring and tiring tasks at work, but I have this tiny pocket of relief and joy that a "Tim Roger's long video" brings. Thank you Tim, you make my fridays less tiresome.
@infernoflash
@infernoflash 4 года назад
This is one of the best anallazys of anything Pokémon i have ever seen! It's also the most intense.
@svenbtb
@svenbtb 4 года назад
Hey Tim, just leaving a comment to let you know I love your stuff, you're wonderful. Thank you for this video and all the hard work you put in - I really liked your analytical look at WHY Pokemon works so well and why it feels so good to play. It's seriously brilliant how Pokemon manages to be both widely accessible and enjoyable to anyone wanting to play the campaign while also having a CRAZY number of decisions and a bunch of mechanical depth. I love that this game even makes THAT part of the game more accessible by letting you see all active effects/buffs/debuffs in play at any given time. ANYWAYS I've rambled on enough, thanks again for being you, much love, keep doing your thing man and don't let people get you down
@GoudaFetaExpandDong
@GoudaFetaExpandDong 3 года назад
"It's difficult to wash blood stains out of a white t-shirt" "*_That's why vampires wear BLACK_*"
@shaneos2727
@shaneos2727 4 года назад
It’s..simply the best entertainment in world history. Tim Roger’s synaptic web of particularities is a sacred treasure and I’m exceedingly grateful to have been exposed to the brilliance of his mastery’s breadth
@pinguman13
@pinguman13 4 года назад
“Questions are sentences for ignorant people” -Tim Rogers
@drjtyson
@drjtyson 4 года назад
Honestly I cannot overstate how much I love this video lol
@rootfifthoctave5336
@rootfifthoctave5336 4 года назад
THIS IS ME, SHOUTING OUT FROM BIRMINGHAM.
@smallmistake
@smallmistake 4 года назад
Birimgham represent! It was cool to hear you call us out in your other video too. And you pronouncing it the British way is even cooler! I remember seeing an old hbomberguy video where he mentioned he spoke to you at the NEC (or NIA...) in Birmingham, but I think he said he just embarrassed himself. You and him are my two favourite people on the internet so I need that crossover to happen again but on RU-vid for me to consume.
@rootfifthoctave5336
@rootfifthoctave5336 4 года назад
fellow brummie kotaku fan - hi!
@smallmistake
@smallmistake 4 года назад
@@rootfifthoctave5336 yes mate!
@conmcdon
@conmcdon 4 года назад
i have no idea anymore when tim rogers is being sincere or sarcastic. tim rogers makes me question what i know about truth.
@ji3qu
@ji3qu 2 года назад
I came here, 2 years later, to determine if this game was worth buying. Instead I was treated to... whatever this was. 1 out of 1 viewers that I asked, "Is this video perfect?" Replied with a "Yes".
@canosisplays5152
@canosisplays5152 4 года назад
This was great. Thanks Tim.
@michaelberlin8526
@michaelberlin8526 4 года назад
IMHO, one of your best, Tim, and tightest. Really nice
@nhall129
@nhall129 4 года назад
Is it weird that, despite not mentioning take Tim make the video, i read the title and description, and INSTANTLY knew it was Tim Rogers
@paigehansen8944
@paigehansen8944 4 года назад
Me too
@Y-two-K
@Y-two-K 4 года назад
Also the video duration
@Justsomeone99987
@Justsomeone99987 4 года назад
I read “it’s good” in his voice and knew it’s be him
@bratsampson
@bratsampson 4 года назад
You generally just need the title and video length in my experience.
@samuelmueller2769
@samuelmueller2769 4 года назад
I can usually tell by the way the thumbnail looks. I think he uses a slightly different font.
@victorpetrescu6586
@victorpetrescu6586 4 года назад
I clicked this hoping it was Tim Rogers and I was not disappointed
@nickhannan8008
@nickhannan8008 4 года назад
I never thought about why it hooked me but I do think the perfect monsters and endless decision permutations are what used to keep me coming back.
@The.Culture.Consultant
@The.Culture.Consultant 2 года назад
Tim saying "going into the cold darkness" while panning into an image of a cave with a coal cart-monster as his adversary is just one of myriad creative choices why this man is a treasure.
@XellosNi
@XellosNi 4 года назад
"That his Mr. Mime could kill ANY POKEMON." That sounds scary.
@michaeltenbroeck1807
@michaeltenbroeck1807 4 года назад
“...on the other hand...”Tim ‘100 hands’ Rodgers -2019. You are the best of the best. I have to hand it to you.
@HAVOK586
@HAVOK586 4 года назад
Thanks, Tim!
@MadMensDen
@MadMensDen 4 года назад
I can't believe this. I love this. This gives me life. For the first time I have to thank the RU-vid algorithm for showing me this video.
@brianpolite
@brianpolite 4 года назад
I don't give a hoothoot what Tim talks about, it's always so entertaining.
@jgrocketpup
@jgrocketpup 4 года назад
I was worried about 21:07, but you navigated that information minefield like a pro, Tim.
@gavilan355
@gavilan355 4 года назад
Tim Rogers is the Grand Turismo of reviewers
@mikyprather-wiegardt6832
@mikyprather-wiegardt6832 4 года назад
I think the aspect of choice is something I've overlooked for 20+ but it makes so much sense. Plus with one Kurt ball each, you choice which pokemon will be in what pokeballs
@bentheintern
@bentheintern 4 года назад
The clip of the police officer laughing will be in my head for days
@drjtyson
@drjtyson 4 года назад
I very much enjoy this type of humor
@johnandronis5053
@johnandronis5053 3 года назад
I needed to watch this to wake up...and I thank you
@Nathan-bf7mt
@Nathan-bf7mt 4 года назад
That was so deep into marketing and psychology my brain sploded.
@andrewhickinbottom1051
@andrewhickinbottom1051 4 года назад
I'm from Birmingham. Well - I was born 16 miles away from Birmingham to be precise. (you told me to shout out in the comments) Brilliantly well observed and worded video as always, Tim! I'm not even a fan of pocket men, and i enjoyed this a lot.
@manfredmoose
@manfredmoose 4 года назад
you're great! thanks tim for another video
@johnsimon8457
@johnsimon8457 19 дней назад
The closer Pokémon gets to looking like an anime in a real world setting, the weirder the world gets in that EVERYTHING revolves around Pokémon. And it’s been a trend twenty years running
@TaniaRavenYT
@TaniaRavenYT 4 года назад
I have to say, this video had me laughing so much. I enjoyed your Dragon Quest 11 video as well. You, sir, are entertaining.
@DeathSpear
@DeathSpear 4 года назад
Im so glad im alive to experience this video.
@Rolandrock820
@Rolandrock820 4 года назад
Your point about how pokemon is unlike most rpgs (in that everyone you fight should be able to be about as good as you) is really interesting... I’d never noticed that but it’s so clear now you’ve pointed it out. Now I’m wondering if that’s present in other genres as well (and if there are any other RPGs that are more like pokemon).
@TheBucket86
@TheBucket86 4 года назад
Another great video Tim.
@taybalkom
@taybalkom 4 года назад
Simply incredible
@midknight1339
@midknight1339 4 года назад
"Hello" was not deep this time around... :c
@reginaldfitzherbert8193
@reginaldfitzherbert8193 4 года назад
It feels like he's down or something.
@doogelyjim8627
@doogelyjim8627 4 года назад
great video as always
@Archflip
@Archflip 4 года назад
I was directed to this insane rant by chance and now need more.
@Darrel_B
@Darrel_B 4 года назад
I'm from Birmingham! Super impressed with the Balti mention. You're obviously well-traveled
@darkcheaker
@darkcheaker 4 года назад
This dude is a Gran Turismo of insane people
@djdewitt
@djdewitt 4 года назад
Point #3 felt revelatory. Damn. Now I want to see RPGs where all the NPCs are obsessed with the player’s core gameplay loop.
@KevinCow
@KevinCow 4 года назад
10:05 - "Pokemoners" I appreciate this consistency with the rest of the Tim Rogers Cinematic Universe.
@e-conrecords4665
@e-conrecords4665 4 года назад
Hilarious and insightful as always 😂
@DaleKamp
@DaleKamp 4 года назад
Solid video. Am too surprised it's on Kotaku.
@lucasrodriguez8957
@lucasrodriguez8957 4 года назад
This video is great! Cannot believe is part of kotaku.
@joshuak4553
@joshuak4553 4 года назад
Pokégood: Why It's Mon
@the0ddpoint943
@the0ddpoint943 4 года назад
I just hear Tim’s voice and hit like, it’s autonomous at this point.
@martinmp19
@martinmp19 4 года назад
Automatic!
@GilangD21
@GilangD21 4 года назад
This is a 30 minutes poem,, im crying
@everfluctuating
@everfluctuating 4 года назад
id like a video or article about your 47 reasons to love the number 108.
@FransLebin
@FransLebin 4 года назад
More asides and digressions please! I want to see the Tristram Shandy of game reviews
@dopatwo
@dopatwo 4 года назад
Loved this video, you're the best!
@AmirGameShow
@AmirGameShow 4 года назад
I'm 30 and never understand the love for Pokemon. But after this , Tim Rogers Again made me do something.❤😂
@MrKeepItTrill
@MrKeepItTrill 4 года назад
Hi Tim, between Pokemon Sword/Shield and Dragon Quest 11 (or a write-in of another Switch game that can be played in Japanese) which would you recommend, not as a focused learning tool but just as something fun/rewarding/marginally educational, for someone who can currently make basic Japanese conversation in textbook grammar and read ~500 Kanji?
@Seabass_Fiction
@Seabass_Fiction 4 года назад
somebody reply with a timestamp whenever he mentions Death Stranding, please.
@luc9867
@luc9867 4 года назад
...this video makes me want to replay some of my old pokemon games
@coldnhot369
@coldnhot369 4 года назад
Good hire kotaku! I love this man. Can’t believe I watched the whole video
@MostAttractiveDudeInTown
@MostAttractiveDudeInTown 4 года назад
The reasons they are good in my oppinion : 1.It's Pokémon 2. Amazing Pokémon design 3. It's an RPG 4. It's for all ages ... who know how an RPG works 5. You're free to what mon's you use 6. It has a bit of every culture 7 . It has a charming artstyle 8. They can make ANYTHING child friendly 9. It has a interesting lore 10. The Ball Guy 11. Mr Rime 12. Variety 13. Fooooooood and cooking 14. You bond with these amazing digital creatures more than your family , what am I the only one that lonely , okay. Best reasons ever , especialy numbers 1,10,11and13.
@trossity
@trossity 4 года назад
it both terrifies me and makes me incredibly curious (read excited) at how similar i believe i am to tim
@FrecklesOpenMic
@FrecklesOpenMic 3 года назад
"A process by which we acquire possibilities we have to learn how to deal with" Yeah the last episodes of evangelion hit me pretty hard too
@randomweeb6997
@randomweeb6997 4 года назад
Oh, thanks for the inside, Tim. I've wanted someone to explain Pokemon to me, as everything outside of Pokemon Special manga failed to keep me. That said, I want to mention how those easy in-game battle backfired for me. I've played Pokemon L.Green, X, O.Sapphire, Moon, and U.Moon. Steamrolling through those game left me with no sense of achievement whatsoever. With one exception - Misty's Starmie from L.Green. It's not broadcasting "You are smart" to me, the message is "Everyone is a moron". Given that, what purpose does challenging morons serve? Morons are going to make stupid decisions, morons are going to be effortlessly crushed. But there's no fun in doing this. Where is fun? Battling Misty's Starmie while being very restricted. That is a fun battle precisely because how owerpowered for that point of the game it is. The rest just spirals down from this point. Which version do I buy? The one that provides more challenge. Wait, they're both the same. The monster roster is different, but... Wait, what's that? Shining Resonance is on sale? Well, that solves the problem completely. Also, the competitive side of the game is different because there are actual smart people out there. Competitive scene is the life and blood of Pokemon now, but it's in the trap of not caring enough about it. The games are easy and effortless, leading them to being forgotten about. Now, if joining the online multiplayer was free, I could give it a shot. But it costs money, money that could be spent on more games. It would be nice if there was a game that goes into competitive side of Pokemon from the box, but there seems to be no interest from the Pokemon company in making this kind of game. Ah, shit, it turned into wall of text. Sorry about that.
@tomoakley760
@tomoakley760 4 года назад
Found this via TheQuartering, I like your analysis of how the pokemon games create these addictive feedback loops.
@Tina_K
@Tina_K 4 года назад
I came here via the quartering too and now I'm never going to watch this soy filled bitchfest again
@MDrams22
@MDrams22 4 года назад
This was one of the most well scripted and delivered videos I think I've ever watched.... Kudos
@TiRoSu
@TiRoSu 4 года назад
This is a good video. I feel like I now have a better understanding of why I like these games so much. They've been using dirty tricks (smart game design) the whole time!
@christopherstich1009
@christopherstich1009 4 года назад
That laughing man will haunt my dreams.
@Rhomega
@Rhomega 4 года назад
I choose the version based on the cover legendary. I (usually) pick the fire type starter.
@sampa8378
@sampa8378 4 года назад
Tim, you are amazing.
@larxene12
@larxene12 4 года назад
Gen 5 was the first and last time Gamefreak created a deep storyline. Gym leaders had a purpose, villain was awesome, music was lit AF. Now the series is stale and struggling to come out with new stuff, this version holds your hand all the way through, and plot is soooooo shallow :( oh well. Black and White is the best one.
@phantomraviolis
@phantomraviolis 4 года назад
i get where you're coming from, but sun & moon, arguably the most "hand-holdy" (I prefer to say it was more guided/directed, but it was very easy either way) had maybe the best story of the mainline games? the focus on themes of family, loyalty, betrayal, the weirdness of the UBs, the narrative of dealing with parental abuse... I can understand if you prefer b&w's more grandiose high-stakes story, but i definitely feel like they're at least on par with each other! sw&sh, i def think is a step back from the last game, but it also feels like it's aiming for something different in terms of being a slow-burn buildup, esp with the rivals
@larxene12
@larxene12 4 года назад
Phantom Raviolis I see sun and moon as an extension to black and white in a way due to the leader of team plasma making a return, I was expecting M to make a comeback and nope T^T
@paletteswapsquirrels
@paletteswapsquirrels 4 года назад
Tim, I'm about 15 minutes in and I find myself needing a "double-like" button for the first time, ever. Please don't stop. Ever.
@squali1930
@squali1930 4 года назад
Damn I didn't expect this video to get so DEEP bruh!
@camhcom
@camhcom Год назад
"professional... video editor" 2:48 [includes an "accidental" single frame edit] not bad timothy, not bad
@MOSTL314
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