Elise and her 2 annoying volt switch emogla in bw but I consider her battle in bw2 easy mainly because there only one emogla the other begin replace with Flaffly which is easy to take out since it not part flying
Oh wow, I thought I was the only one that who hit the self destruct button on my Geodude for Miltank, mine was in a regular playthrough though. That blast was almost as glorious as the subsequent tears streaming down Whitney's face.
Just imagine if they gave Whitney anything else but a chefary, imagine how much harder it would have been if she had a taros to keep with the normal cow theme or even a snorlax to keep with the tanky normal self healing team theme.
I never personally had trouble with Whitney, Morty was much more a pain in my Nosepass. That being said I would see the challenge she poses for different people using different Pokemon. It's not just Whitney either, there are so many trainers out there that yeah might be easy for someone but'll be a pain for someone else if they aren't prepared or don't see it coming. Cynthia, Ultra Necrozma, Leon ect.
I actually had more problems with Jasmine than Whitney, mostly for the same reason the latter is hard - due to lack of preparation, I was underleveled and my super-effective options were pretty subpar. Not to mention that Steelix has monstrously high defense and Iron Tail hits really hard (when it hits).
@@bvd_vlvd i mean you can beat his gengar with a rattata using tail whip and bite. Tail whip to stall the sucker punches and bite for super effective damage
I'm surprised he didn't list Ultra Necrozma as one of the hardest challenges in Pokémon, especially core series. +2 Omniboost at Level 60+ when your likely in the low to mid 50s, along with it having decent coverage moveset. Yeah, though it's easy to cheese using a certain mon, it's still one of the hardest boss battles up there. Also I personally rank Mewtwo battle from LGPE as one of the hardest battles in Pokémon as not only does it have Powerful Psychic boosted by and Omniboost in stats, it has Amnesia and Recover, plus you only have 5 minutes to drop him or else the battle is over.
I honestly never struggled with either of them. I always choose Totodile as my starter, and evolve it before facing Morty. Feraligatr learns crunch at lvl 30, which is enough to literally one-shot Morty's entire team in HG/SS. For Whitney, my strategy is to paralyze Miltank with a Flaafy, (obviously you'd have to do it twice, cause Lum berry), and then spam dig with Croconaw, to constantly break her rollout chains, so she can only attack every 2 turns. Another idea, is to catch one of the Nidos (preferably the female, cause she's immune to attract and gets double kick), in an attempt to poison the Miltank with poison touch, so that it'll consistently lose health every time. Not only that, poisoning the cow, means it'll spend more time spamming milk drink to heal itself, and wasting Whitney's potions too, which gives you more free turns to attack. So yeah, if you don't want to go kaboom with a Graveler, or use a fighting type, (Heracross is a beast with guts and brick-break, but it's really, really hard to find in the headbutt trees in Azalea), my best advice is to cause her a status condition, (paralysis or poison, but I prefer poisoning), and then spam dig. So yeah. I just roll up to her gym with a Croconaw, a Flaafy and a Nidorina, and that's usually enough to beat her.
Ghetsis whooped my ass in my first Black playthrough. I didn't know what to expect yet, since I always play my first run completely blind and he laughed in my face and sent me packing right back to the pokecenter telling me to 'git gud, scrub'. It was a stark reminder that I should not neglect the occasional grind session, or else there would be consequences. Still got him on my second try, though and he hasn't been a problem since, so he doesn't stand out as much as some others. A one time surprise, really. Unlike Cynthia, for example, who requires extensive prep time and counters. She can be easy too, but making a team that can thwart her that is also good against the E4 before you finally get to face her down is a much bigger challenge than anything Ghetsis ever did.
Tbh i found the commander jupiter fight harder than mars. Skuntank only was weak to ground which i didnt have the time. super bulky and really strong STAB attacks.
Surprised the Ultra Necrozma fight wasn’t brought up. Granted, there are ways to cheese the fight, but it practically destroyed most of us during our first time fighting it.
This was tough my first time. I didn't know what type it was and its boosted stats are much higher than anything in the story by that point. Plus I was going easy on it to try to catch it, not knowing I couldn't.
If you ever want to have a true challenge in Pokemon, play USUM with a mono-Dragon team with no EXP Share... You will find it to be your worst nightmare
My alolan ninetales just stood there tanking Photon Geysers because it didn't want me to feel sad, so I hit it with like 6 freeze-dry while my ninetales was still at 1 HP.
Honestly, I can see your point about Machop. In the case of Whitney, I overleveled a little and relied on my starter. I honestly had a harder time with Claire's Kingdra. First time, I brought LUGIA to this fight. Later times, I taught a Pokemon Dragonbreath. Some people had issues with Norman or Juan but I didn't. I struggled a little against Steven's Metagross, but I still beat it in my first try with enough patience. Cynthia is the real eye opener. In Gen 4 and 5 games, she is always the toughest trainer in the game.
Lance OHKO'd my Dragonite with his own with ONE Outrage. My jaw hit the floor when I battled him the first time. On top of that he still has a lot of Full Restores!
I will object a little bit - they can be tough but if you play with Exp Share on and especially if you have a Fire type like Incineroar, Lurantis is not that hard at all. and in USUM I one shotted the Lurantis with Hawlucha's Z-move. (no grinding, just Exp Share)
@@charliez077 I can see that, I think depending on your starter some trial battles become insanely difficult, in SM I picked rowlet and since pluck only did like 50% it inmediately recovered with sun boosted synthesis while the castform landed fire type boosted weather balls, I also had a Salandir it but castform also had water gun so rip. And contrary to you I don’t remember anything in particular about the ribombee battle but I’ve heard it was hell for many Personally I believe the totem battles are some of the most difficult challenges during the main run in main series games because ithe fact that is 2 vs 1 and the pair of Pokémon have incredibly good synergy, so the battle doesn’t just feel like hitting a Pokémon hard and onto the next one, just look at lurantis: +2 speed boost so it outspeeds almost everything you may have 120 power physical solar blade that can be used in 1 turn because it’s carrying a mental herb, the one turn solar blade can also be done when castform sets up sun Synthesis so it can recover 50% health and 75% under the sun, keep in mind it’s also faster so it always cures first Razor leaf that can crit X scissor for coverage Leaf guard so you can’t status it in sun Castform Headbutt, 70 Power is something at this point in the game plus it can flinch Weather ball, which becomes fire and boosted under sun Sunny day, basically it unleashes hell in this battle Water fun for fire coverage
It’s funny that you released this video today cuz literally last night I was playing Pokémon Crystal and defeated Whitney using just my Zubat named Mae using a strategy of Confuse Ray and Bite to cause flinching. Easiest battle against Whitney ever tbh lol.
That said, Whitney did inspire me to use Miltank. Taught her the Elemental Punches, kept Rollout, and spammed the crap out of her during my battle with Clair.
Surprised you didn't mention Orre Colosseum, considering it's by far the hardest challenge I've ever faced in a Pokémon game. I've still never beaten Eldes in there (though I have at least reached him, which for me was a victory in itself). Anyways, as for the challenges you mentioned, the Pokémon World Tournament is easily my favorite. Tons of fun cameos and challenging as hell, but without the needless padding and harsh losing penalties of the other facilities.
Cool video. Would be awesome to see a follow up on hardest battles in Nuzlockes specifically throughout the Gens. Fights like Lenora in Black & White can become super sweaty when you’re playing under those rules.
When you said Red has 14 of the 17 types, you mentioned he didn't have any Dragon moves even though his Charizard has Dragon Pulse. I think Bug is what you meant to say.
Honestly pokemon is hard when you don't know its coming. If you don't know that Whitney has miltank or raihan sand team. You'll lose. Pokemon isn't getting easier we are getting access to knowledge easier
@@marcusf.2007 there's also something to be said for experience. My playthrough teams today are much better than they were 15 or even 10 years ago, making the games easier by virtue of having better options to deal with what I didn't know was coming. But this is true of any franchise of games.
I love Black Tower and White Treehollow, and I especially love how if you've completed Black T on Black 2 and then switch to White T, you still have to complete it, so it's not that just because you completed Black T, the game thinks you've completed White T too. Which is great, double the content, and I thought before playing them that they were the same and just aesthetically different but no, they are actually different, with some HMs being usable there as well but different HMs for the 2 different facilities to avoid trainers in some rooms. They have great songs and visuals too.
There’s a fair few battles in the Pokémon games that I always panicked over- for some reason I thought that the Nugget Bridge Battle in Fire Red and a Leaf Green was one of the scariest battles ever. Its sudden happening, the lack of super good grinding areas, etc. That fight scared me so much in my youth.
I'm still trying to beat the elite four for the first time and I'm still afraid about that specific battle in Undella Town 👀 I don't think I'll ever have emought mental preparation to beat Cynthia's Gen 5 team.
Honorable mention: Arceus in Pokemon Ranger Guardian sign’s multiplayer back in time areas. Arceus has an absolute bullet hell of attacks compared to most of the other bosses and has enough health to make the 5:00 time limit daunting for most. It’s all technically soloable but with old DS servers down, it’s gotten harder to do multiplayer
there is only one I can think of, Misty's Starmie in Fire Red and Leaf Green. if you do not have a grass type or even a grass type move, it is a beast, you need to be over leveled to have a chance against it without any grass on your side.
Not necessarily. I see two ways even a nuzlocker could get out of there unscathed. Leveling up your Magikarp to Gyarados, or pairing up a level 21 Butterfree to paralyze it and a Nidorino/Nidorina to deal with Starmie through Mega Punch. You could make it out of Misty relatively fine with any of those setups. If you're playing casually and not a nuzlocke setting, other options are Wartortle/Pidgeotto or the rare Clefable.
@@istokipsy6289 the Butterfree method has been used and it was ok, I had more luck with a Paras with Stun Spore and Bullet Seed. the Gyarados route is solid, but that is a grind we all hate and I don't view it as a good mon for using in a gen 3 play through. I want a water type that can actually make good use of water moves
@@devilkazumi578 that sounds genuinely horrible, I would of gone in there with Venasaur, never mind facing misty as early as possible, just grind Ivysaur up as early as possible to deal with it
@@jptheflipper3825 i cant remember how beat it? I chose houndoom as my starter XD....and omg before yoy reach brock theres a trainer that has a magikarp that knows dragon rage 🥴
A much easier way to deal with Whitney's murder cow: Catch a Pidgey, and raise it until it learns Sand Attack. Proceed to chuck enough pocket sand in Miltank's eyes that Rollout basically never hits. Congratulations, you have now kneecapped Whitney's overpowered cow.
Mars and Whitney do what I can only imagine they wanted to do with Misty's Starmie. Biggest stat thing you'd seen by far and if they had only given it confusion it would have been a terror for anything but a pikachu. One that gets overlooked i feel is Teacher Emily in Ultrasun/ultra moon. At that point you've gone through a handful of battles against literal children and then the teacher rolls up with a starter youre weak to, 2 levels higher than anything else in the area and will smack you with super effective moves. It's still just level 10, so the grind to get past it isn't as harsh as the grind to get past the other two. But definitely a jump over it's sun/moon counterpart
I always get terrified when I think what would have happened if that stupid starmie knew confusion or psybeam .... Basically, I wasn't beating the game in that case 😅
Catching every Shadow Pokemon on Greevil's team in one go using only your team is actually a massive challenge. You pretty much have to stall out to get stat debuffs and status effects and pray that you can catch everything in the first couple tries. Good luck catching three legendary birds swiftly. (It was probably designed so that you would swap out your team for shadow Pokemon so you can resist everything, but that's not how I like to play)
Everything becomes easy once you know it's coming. Ultra Necrozma absolutely wrecked me in my first playthrough in USUM. The "Two Heroes of Ransei" story in Pokemon Conquest is a pain to unlock and pretty challenging itself. Landorus (and a couple other legendaries, he's just the one I remember the most) was very hard to unlock and capture in Battle Trozei.
One way Whitney could be even harder is if she remains a Normal type Gym Leader in a future Johto remake, but replaces the now Fairy type Clefairy with the Normal/Fairy Jigglypuff. Not only would Jigglypuff take neutral damage from Fighting type moves, but it would also be able to use Disarming Voice, a 40 base power move that never misses.
Totem Lurantis. I personally don't like using items in battles to add some challenge and I broke that rule for Lurantis. 1 vs 2 where one enemy can heal itself and is able to spam solar blade due to castform's sunny day? Balanced.
Ghetsis and Cyrus, I had a hard time with. There's a reason why Ghetsis can one shot anyone's team if he wanted to. And that's because of Hydreigon and the move frustration. And don't even get me started on Cyrus and his Gyarados.
Speaking on the ORIGINAL Gold and Silver versions... Whitney is iconic as a roadblock because while she is VERY easy now... I'd wager many of us as kids (10-12 or younger) didn't have the greatest handle on type advantages and disadvantages so thinking to take a fighting type in to have an advantage most likely just never crossed our minds. (I would honestly be willing to bet that MANY of us didn't even know that the normal type was weak to fighting then) If you were anything like me, your starter was your strongest and you had a fairly okay team (probably not great but they somehow get the job done) for the rest of your 'mons. And trading for something that was going to be weaker (level-wise) didn't make much sense to us knuckleheads as children. So I imagine many of us opted to try to weather the storm of the Miltank and grind it out the very hard way. I was team Cyndaquil, by the way. And in those days that early in the game... Noctowl was my second strongest. Yeah, I struggled.
Destiny Tower in Mystery Dungeon Explorers and Super is basically reskinned Purity Forest. Though id argue they offer great rewards. Explorers gives you the Space Globe. Which boosts all your stats with no drawbacks. Super lets you recruit Arceus, but only if you recruit everyone else.
Destiny Tower in SPMD isn't anything like Purity Forest or the original Destiny Tower in PMD:EoS, though, despite having 99 floors and something mythical-pokemon-related at the end. PSMD's Destiny Tower doesn't have restrictions on items, number of party members and their levels, so it's already not the same kind of challenge as Purity Forest/OG Destiny Tower, even if it isn't an easy dungeon. The closest thing Super has that resembles these two is Sacred Ruins, which **does** put restrictions on bag, number of party members and their levels, as in no items and only one Pokemon at lvl 5. This dungeon is only close to resembling Purity Forest and the rest, because it has 39 floors with no reward at the end (this dungeon is important for 100% completion, but escaping from it does as much good for the progression as actually beating it)
Miltank is not that bad if you're a real gamer and pick Chikorita. Johto's stacked against you, UNTIL this point whre you have both Reflect and Posionpowder
Doorman: Welcome to the Salty Spatoon, how tough are ya? Me: I completed all Orre Colosseum challenges. Doorman: So? Me: Without trading. Doorman: Oh! Right this way sir!
I know most people won't remember this one but the Time Temples in Ranger Guardian Signs was brutal. I tried to do it with a friend as a kid and we got obliterated. I haven't ever been able to conquer that ever since
Did they nerf Mars in the Diamond and Pearl remakes? I don't remember having any trouble against Mars and my first time experiencing Gen 4 is trough the remakes.
the Pokémon Games got easy since Gen 6 because EXP Share gives all pokemon the full exp points. If you have six pokemon you will get six times as much exp as if you had one pokemon if the exp share are on. This is so broken and makes your Pokémon level up super fast
One challenge I think got overlooked is the final confrontation with the Go Rock Squad boss, whose name escapes me at the moment..., given you have to capture all three legendary beasts in a row. Entei is especially hard.
This wasn’t a challenge but I still want to mention it. I was playing the post game of Alpha Sapphire, and was fighting Wallace before climbing the sky pillar. His Milotic landed 4 blizzards in a row, and the first three got the freeze. It was so annoying
Honestly one of my favorite things to do when I get a hankering for Pokémon games I played as a kid is playing ROMs that have had the difficulty scaled up like held items, movesets, levels, etc. Makes winning the fights just as gratifying as the original easier versions were when I was younger
Respect for mentioning XD 👌🏾 Orre Colosseum is literally the hardest challenge in all of Pokemon, beat it - then tell me I'm wrong, but I'm not. Orre was on another level, it produced the best EV trained teams at the time and even if the pokemon you wanted wasn't included in-game, you could still trade from the GBA titles to try to beat Orre Colosseum (and you needed to, arguably). It's impossible to beat without extremely well EV trained pokemon, that alone makes it a nightmare and on top of that, you have to battle tournament rounds, which means consecutive battles with failure meaning a total restart at the first trainer in the lineup. There are levels to it after you beat the first set, no duplicate items are allowed and on top of that, there's a NIGHTMARE Smoochum of all things used by trainer 1 that totally screws with the whole balance of the first battle, it's set battles rather than shift until your first 2 Pokemon faint and if your pokemon aren't either properly defensively trained or very move pool dynamic, you're a gonner. No challenge in pokemon is harder and I stand on that. Orre was for rock solid trainers, hence the "ore" in it's name 😌 And it's a "spinoff" 😆 After everything after gen 4, I'd argue that term isn't accurate, what with all the timeline stuff. Orre being based on Arizona means it borders Unova in some context, at the very least. Anyway, kudos 🤌🏾
Pokemon colosseum alone is a big challenge for a Pokemon game. A difficulty spike around every corner with every boss having Pokemon that are practically 10 lvs more than what you have and a strategy to go with it
I don't think having a red bar in the bottom of the thumbnail is such a great idea on youtube. It makes me (and presumably others too) think I've already watched it. Something to consider?
Here are a few ones I've had trouble with : Pokémon Mystery Dungeon : Explorers of Sky - Destiny Tower : See Purity Forest? Imagine you get your skills locked and you can't detect traps. Pokémon Ranger - The Weather Trio : They have attacks that cover the whole screen and go out, making circling them extremely hard. Pokémon Ranger 3 - The final quest : A series of multiple hard challenges completed by a fight with Lugia, the last step for 100%'ing the game. Pokémon USUM - Ultra-Necrozma : It's a nuzlocke runkiller. I beat it with Perish Song tho, so it can be cheesed.
Ngl I kinda like the world tournament the most bc you get to face almost all of the previous trainers, gym leaders and champions from past games in one tournament with updated teams and items and you have to basically have competitive teams to even think of taking on the world champions cup and I loved that even as a kid…. Even if I never beat it until just a couple of years ago
Basically all of the first Pokémon Ranger. Having to draw many circles around fast Pokémon that can and often do go off screen, while attacking frequently. Some are even immune to Plusle/Minun, and you can't bring other Pokémon with you. I don't know how I ever beat this game. I haven't touched it since.
Can we talk about the last colosseums in Pokemon Battle Revolution? Especially Sunset and Stargazer? Some nights I can still hear the narrator in my dreams...
I would argue that Zero Isle South and Destiny Tower are worse than purity forest because not only do they have all of the attributes it has, but they also have the accursed grudge trap
Whitney gave me a run for my money that I had to soft reset for a female starter and yet I still traded for that Machop. Morty on the other hand wrecked me with Hypnosis + Shadow Ball. I'm so glad he didn't have Dream Eater.
Ok, I’ve never had any trouble with Whitney before in either Crystal or Heart Gold, I get that it is hard but I didn’t think it was that hard the first (or second) time I fought the infamous Miltank. Helix has definitely blessed me with some sort of anti-Whitney stuff
Don't forget Whitney's Clefairy has metronome, which can also ruin anybody's day. Challenge mode Elesa in BW2 is a really well designed one too. Emolga counters each starter and all the paralysis can add another level of uncertainty. Even though you have access to the desert beforehand they're going to be too underleveled without grinding and will struggle with emolga either way. Elesa honestly has two aces imo.
I was lucky enough to get a female Chikorita as my starter in SoulSilver so Whitney was less difficult for me--it helps that she ended up learning Reflect soon after evolving, so all I had to do was set up Reflect and start chipping away at it. It still took AGES to take the stupid cow down, though.
With miltank you need charm togepi or headbutt herracross from the tree in azeala town level that herracross up until it get brick break that your best option to deal against withney miltank
This entire video could've been the Battle Frontier gold symbols. The number of people who have done them all, especially Emerald's, is probably less than 1000.
The ultra necrozma battle in Pokemon ulta sun&moon would be the toughest challenge in any Pokemon game. That Pokemon literally has the second Highest base stat total of all Pokemon. On top of that it's stats get boosted by aura. It's can't be caught and it has moveset for each of its weakness which can desimate your entire team
Evice in Colisseum is worth a mention. His team is level 60, and a huge spike over Nascor, a skill swap slaking combo, two pseudo legendaries, and a baton pass swords dance user. If his team fires off, Scizor can swords dance, silver wind getting the boost, baton pass into slaking and skill swap it. It's crazy, even if you have all the legendary dogs at that point, he can still easily crater each one.
There's some methods to beat Whitney in HGSS. Getting Machop by trade is the easiest. On my last playthroughs I usualy teach Headbutt to a Pokemon, go back to Azalea or route 33, catch a Heracross and grind it to level 20 to learn Brick Break. You will oneshot Miltank to oblivion this way.
The hardest challenge of all time in all Pokemon games in my opinion is collecting all gold symbol in the battle frontier of Pokemon Emerald. Also, collecting all colored stickers of the battle frontier of Platinum/HGSS as the 2nd hardest challenge. You will have to deal with a lot of RNGs and the Battle Factories will force you to use garbage Pokemon then pit you against strong legendaries when the boss of the Battle Factory appears.
In Pokemon Battle Revolution, there is this challenge where you have to defeat 100 trainers in a row. Sometimes, the mysterious weather condition called "Fog" is on the field, and makes all of your moves 50% accurate. If you do not have weather changers you're not going to last long. Plus, the last trainer uses Legendary Pokemon.
In my 1000+ hours in white 2 I only beat the champions tournament once and that was with a dodrio, mismagius and a shiny jumpluff. status conditions op
one spinnoff thing that drove me crazy was in the pokemon ranger games. calming down the two rampardos was INCREDIBLY difficult for me as a kid. It wasn't nearly as hard on a second attempt as an adult. but i was stuck there for like a Week as a kid due to the precise timing needed to avoid having your line broken
I thought Emerald's Battle Factory was the hardest facility at the Battle Frontier. Talk about something you have absolutely no way to prepare for. If you're playing with save states it's a cinch, but on the GBA it was brutal.
