As I do frequently, I watch Bart videos more than once. Usually pick up a little something I missed, or undervalued as important information on the 2nd run through
Love the turn analysis I find myself semi-bluffing my marginal made hands with a draw very often which is a leak in my game. I appreciate the work great video once again.
To balance leading rivers when you bet-call turns like this: You should sometimes lead/shove busted straight draws or combo draws(pair+ straight/backdoor flush draws etc.) when front door flush comes in.
The real answer is sometimes bet the river and sometimes check. When looking at just one hand it doesn't take previous action into account. If you had bet the last three time you had a hand, then check this on the river there is a better chance villain may try and bluff the river.
If he checks the turn the result wouldn't change. The set of 3s is going to bet and the nut draw is going to call, it will just be cheaper and make for a larger river jam.
If he checks the turn, as you say, it would lead to less money being put in the pot when hero is behind, which means more EV. You can't act like you know in advance that the flush draw is going to hit.
The beauty of position is so that you can just call and keep the pot small. It’s unlikely for any villain to fold a king to a turn bet. I still like the turn bet because villain will call the flop with a bunch of small pocket pairs and some weaker Kings.
So many players don't understand what a wet flop looks like... When they see two of a suit, its wet to them and they assume a set or two pair is raising them right then and there.
yea the thing about "he never raised on a wet flop so he cant have a set" is misguided, that applies more to when the V is oop and the hero has a chance to check back turn.Here V has position and board isnt that bad as you say,if flop was say 874 two flush id be raising a set there as there are way more action killer trun cards
its ok to do,caller just heard somewhere that you should always raise sets on wet flops,no you dont have to,v has postion and apart from a spade there arent too many danger cards that can stop the action on the turn,that rule is better when OOP
gerry o sullivan yeah I don’t always raise sets on semi-wet flops. Although I almost always regret it when the turn seems to without fail bring in the most obvious flush and/or straight draw 😂
john smith actually I’m revising my advice as I’ve seen to many Vs check on the turn to overcards/board pairing/cards that look as though there could a str8/ flush cards of course.Even Top Pair weak kicker will slow down. Whereas if you raise the flop these guys might spaz out and shove Top pair/overpairs/flush draws as they are unsure what to do on various turn/rivers and shoving is easier for them 😀 Even on dry boards say 10-6-2 there are so many turn cards to slow down JJ or T-x that I actually just raise sets there now.
For value or to bluff? What's calling and what's folding? He is mostly getting called by better on this board. Just because you have a ton of equity doesn't mean you have to bet in all situations.
9:36... yeah, (on the turn) I called,...because, I figured he had like KT,...so, I just thought to see if I could bad beat him on the river!! ...And then, now that I’ve done it, I’d called Bart to show off!!
This hand is not a bad beat. A bad beat is putting your money in when you're way ahead and still losing because of terrible luck. Here villain didn't raise the flop when he was clearly ahead and called a pot size river jam when he was beat. More like he got punished for a terrible slowplay.
FefeLeVrai// In poker term, true. Because villain had an option on the river. Let’s call it a Terrible beat, because of his domination from the start and huge raise the turn when he had upper hand. . Not sure about “terrible slow play” by villain, though. He was building the pot on every street while disguising his hand, and hugely protected it on turn. I’d call it a good play. Yet, there is not much one can do when run into a calling station’s luck. Thanks for the reply.
FefeLeVrai calling it a terrible slow play is results oriented surely? It work out badly but only because (a) hero happens to have the flush draw and (b) the flush draw gets there. There’s loads of holding hero could have where if villain raises the flop hero folds and then we’d say villain shouldn’t have raised. Also he only slow plays the flop. He raises the turn when he’s miles ahead and hero then calls without the odds to do so and hits his 8-outer on the river. You can maybe make a case for hero’s turn call based on implied odds for when he hits his flush. But there’s RIO if river is 2 of spades, A or 10.
The guy with the set has to know this board is screaming nut flush draw. He should have gave the hero a worse price i would have massively over raised the turn. I'm from Detroit and play in this room he is talking about. Any older white guy at a 2-5 table is going to show up with spades in that situation 8 out of 10 times. And have KK the other 2. I could even get behind folding the set of 3's to the right person. Bottom set with that board is really not very strong in these games.
mastyer0fReality raising the turn when an 82% favourite and getting called is bad just because hero hits their out? That’s like saying raising AA preflop and getting called by 96 suited is bad because the flop comes down 963.
Yeah with 33 with you should fold to a c-bet flop unless you flop quads. In which case you should shove all in for 200 big blinds to fold out any other hands that might make better quads or a runner runner straight flush by the river. This will definitely show a big profit in the long run.
@@nicks210684 Fold out any other quads? You are being sarcastic I hope lol. You want a call by somebody drawing to one out. A quad draw is really not a thing. I'm drawing to quads on every hand technically.
It's not that bad of a play, I'll agree his thought process isn't good but he didn't play the hand horribly. The 70 turn bet doesn't accomplish anything but getting punished by a strong hand, but it isn't egregious.
I play at this casino. There is no action. Ever! The games are filled with old auto retirees. The guy is bragging about 3betting and being aggressive. At this place you have to be super aggressive to squeeze a buck out.
Checking the turn was the lesson here but any decent player would know to check there. Who's going after a weak king here? Strange. He bet 75 into like 320. Who tf is folding tp there?
It's educational because most players are betting because they have a ton of equity but that isn't really correct. He isn't really getting called by worse when he has the flush draw and there is a 2 3 on the flop. He is mostly getting called by any k+ and a small percentage will be worse flush draws and may be a middle pocket pair if someone is being real loose. No point to bet when the better hands are never folding
