Poker Vlogger Mariano talks RAKE at mid stakes

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Bart Hanson talks with Mariano Poker about rake considerations at the $5-$5 level of live No Limit Hold’em. Discussion specifically about california "drop" starts at 12:25.

Mariano Poker, poker vlogger from RU-vid, calls in with a thinly played raise with AA. Bart and Mariano go on to talk about the drop in California style “drop” No Limit games.
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@MarianoPoker 4 года назад

Thanks for having me Bart 🙏🏼

@WalterFoddis 4 года назад

That's the 2nd time I've heard Bart explain the issues with top set; something I would have never considered otherwise. But here, really sounds like the villain's tendencies overrode the top-set "factor." Great to see vloggers who I watch talk shop.

@ekw555 4 года назад

good play, Mariano - you got him to fold T9o! ;-)

@SFreedberg1 4 года назад

Mariano or anybody - I was going to visit L.A. soon and was surprised to hear that most of your play is at an Indian Casino I believe called Morongo. That doesn't seem to be too far from L.A. Is there a reason that you favor Morongo over the Los Angeles casinos? Maybe Bart was mistaken by he mentioned that you played 500 cap game at the Commerce and also Hollywood Park. Is Morongo worth the trip? Maybe Bart was mistaken and you just live down there now.

@theunomaas 4 года назад

@@SFreedberg1 About 90 miles from the Bike... There is plenty of Poker in LA, I dont think its worth the drive to play in smaller place. If you were in the area it might be worth it.

@Cent013 4 года назад

no problem MARIANO :)

@nocoinplayer3777 4 года назад

Nice work, Bart and Mariano, great content and analysis! Thank you both!

@jacobcadena9345 4 года назад

Two of my favorite poker content producers!!

@whatever5575 4 года назад

very well thought out, especially regarding to pocket jack statement.

@RunItTw1ce4858 4 года назад

Probably size up a tad more on the flop being it's semi connected with AJ7..on AJ6 i think your 40% sizing is fine. Would like to see $60+. On the flop. River I likely flat call. Feels like there are more T9s and XhXh combos than your targeted Aces up combos. Have like 3 combos of AdXd hands that you are targeting. As Bart said, need to unblock top pair.

@Marinate305 4 года назад

These are excellent imo.

@JRHightower1987 4 года назад

Harrahs Cherokee takes $8 dollars of rake in Holdem and $7 in Plo, what do you think over under is on how much rake casinos could take before players stopped playing?

@sinbaddidshazaam2533 4 года назад

Where do they collect the least here in Southern California? What casino anyone know???

@Ro-ni7nm 4 года назад

Explains thoroughly, the reasoning and logic he used during the hand. Then doesnt want to disclose his win rate? Its pretty evident i say

@MaxsCognacReview 4 года назад

“I don’t want to disclose my win rate” lol

@compteofficiel4112 4 года назад

i'm sure Phil Ivey would have the same response, as would most self-respecting poker players...bragging is childish, and of course if it is negative you wouldn't want to say that either, would you?

@MarianoPoker 4 года назад

🤷🏻‍♂️

@ortodary2825 4 года назад

Viage Brussels: 2/2 8€ cap. Anything above is 5% 20€ cap.

@patrickmcgraw4646 2 года назад

Love when bart says. "Cut my teeth."

@scottlarrabee467 4 года назад

Raising the river there is really bad even against a weak opponent. I respect marianos game but not sure about that one

@compteofficiel4112 4 года назад

well he did say it was a "raise/fold" play, so he had a plan...they were really deep. i wouldn't have done that though..you also lose to a straight that no one mentioned..

@ryanbahnsen6429 Год назад

Yeah it's call/fold here in position seeing as though the only hands folding to a 2.5x raise would be hands you already beat and calls being from hands that beat you. So yeah I question the river raise as well.

@dantu5377 4 года назад

Other guy had A-9 and he was hoping for a 4th flush.

@compteofficiel4112 4 года назад

he could have gotten a straight too.

@austinbritton1029 4 года назад

reupload?

@compteofficiel4112 4 года назад

i used to play at Chumash when it was 18+ and it was about the softest game you could imagine...college kids who were there more to drink beer and donk off their money. Sadly, Chumash got greedy and decided to go with an alcohol license it became 21+ and ruined the game in more recent years. These country Indian casinos are already soft, so if you can find one that is still 18+ you should do well.

@davidstud3952 4 года назад

It is 4-5BB/h drop here in Central Europe almost everywhere 🤔

@andrewadami3920 4 года назад

So that's like worse. Thats 40%-50% of the BEST players win rate.

@davidstud3952 4 года назад

@@andrewadami3920 Yeah, Cap is usually 25€ and 5% linear. On top of that there is very rarely any rakeback like a HighHandJackpot. Coffee/Soda is at 4€, a meal at 15-30€.

@alexbelinsky2364 4 года назад

Mariano's probably the 2nd best player of the poker vloggers behind Neeme

@brendaklinger3339 4 года назад

Lmao... Yeah right! Maybe if you're blind stoned and a Donkey

@kdabbey 4 года назад

How was this evaluation done? 🤔. Most of them just post their winning sessions except Owen.

@alexbelinsky2364 4 года назад

@@kdabbey because if you know poker then you know. Having experience in anything helps you more easily spot talent. Who cares what the session results were you look at how the player navigates and thinks about each spot. Every vlogger shows hands where they play bad or hands that they lost. And correction second amongst mid-stakes vloggers, not the high-stakes guys.

@compteofficiel4112 4 года назад

got a link to a good example of his work?

@Edward-xd1td 4 года назад

He's a great player especially having only played for a little over a year however to say he's the second-best of logger out of all the vloggers that's kind of silly considering for instance there's guys that have been playing 10 and 20 years worth of winning poker that vlog johnnievibes crust 25 game in the San Diego area for like eight years or something Mimi and a few others also but I put Mariano maybe in the top five and that's pretty exceptional considering he hasn't even been playing poker that long this guy learns quick obviously does a lot of studying and the fact that he's calling in on this show tells a story I play with him at Morongo sometimes

@apap8368 4 года назад

Don't forget to tip your dealer :D

@johnny8309 4 года назад

Would like to have seen what adjustments you should make when there’s a large rake and a low buy in cap.

@compteofficiel4112 4 года назад

it becomes a bingo game. hardly poker anymore

@johnny8309 4 года назад

Bruce M. Still want to know how to adjust to play that game as profitably as possible. It’s the only casino within 600 miles

@compteofficiel4112 4 года назад

@@johnny8309 when the stack to BB ratio is low, for example playing under 50 or 60 BB, you have to play mostly big-card hands, played fast strictly for value. speculative hands lke 45s, 22, A3s, 9To, etc. become less valuable because their are not enough implied odds to go for long shots...you won't make enough when you hit to support playing such hands over time. a lot of times, at

@compteofficiel4112 4 года назад

@@johnny8309 of course the large rake only makes it worse...large rakes tend to encourage bigger open sizes and more 3 and 4-betting pre. i've seen pots where someone min raised opened, 3 callers (so about a $9-10 pot in 1/2) and then someone takes down a $3 pot with a big c-bet....stupid right? you gotta open for like 5x to make up for that...many people will open for even 8-12x in such games, even more in some games. you can quickly see how if you have 50BB with QQ, someone opens for 12BB, you only have one play, right? all-in! does that all make sense? if not tell me what you question about it.

@evanrichter3893 Год назад

@@compteofficiel4112 hey, I don’t play in these short stack games, more deep stack games. But I’ve always been curious, when people open to like 6x the bb, can’t I just be a total nit and play 3bet or fold and only play strong hands? That’s what I do and people get mad at me, but I’m just like ur opening to 15 dollars in a 1/2 game why would I ever play like 4,5 suited or pocket 7s? Is this a reasonable strategy or could I be doing something better

@tomohawk52 4 года назад

Is the flop bet of $40 too small? I would make it about $70 in order to build the pot and charge the draws a bit more.

@aokijannick7616 4 года назад

you're sitting with the current nuts and don't want to scare of hands that could be drawing, so down-betting seems correct

@compteofficiel4112 4 года назад

3 of the aces are out, so it is unlikely that villain has the other one...any underpair would fold to much pressure. and isn't the current trend towards smaller c-bets in general?

@CowenJE 4 года назад

the guy missed his flush and straight draw and tried to push the hero off.

@sinbaddidshazaam2533 4 года назад

Possibly...

@guitarfreak80ftw 4 года назад

What hands with the 9h missed a flush and straight draw? That makes no sense given the hand.

@brendaklinger3339 4 года назад

@@guitarfreak80ftw I'm not sure what you mean... If he's even telling the truth about the hand the guy had... Knowing this donk he got beat and was calling in to see why he got beat and why he played the hand worse than someone sitting down at a poker table for like the 10th time... The guy had a gutter and 9 high flush draw which was 4th or 5th highest flush draw without looking back to see if it was the J of hearts... Horrible play obv but not as horrible as raising the river after getting check called and then lead into and called all the way to the river like he was on a draw... Plus this is not a blocker bet on this board and at $200 it's a value bet 99% of the time... Not wanting it to get checked back...

@mikeyteee95 2 года назад

Or had 9 10o and bet the straight but folded to the raise

@BigBadVVolf22 3 года назад

Do negreanu next

@andrewromeo4314 4 года назад

On rio

@andrewromeo4314 4 года назад

What about combo 8-9?

@sinbaddidshazaam2533 4 года назад

Implying opponent fishing for 10?

@victorfrankenstein50202 4 года назад

If this guy is not as good as Mariano thinks, then it’s much more likely that he was holding a pair plus. J-9 is much more likely here, giving him a terrible heart draw on the turn, as well as an inside straight draw.

@alexanderroberts8579 4 года назад

Wow how you fold top set to a min raise on the river

@andrewadami3920 4 года назад

Haha Nice balanced comment.

@TheTree1 4 года назад

that river raise feels spew. if your opponent has the kh he should be jamming and you will fold the best hand. also how do you get value from worse?

@MarianoPoker 4 года назад

I'm just clicking buttons man

@zekebones34 4 года назад

You’re assuming his opponent is a thinking player. I’m raising that spot all day in my 2-5 game, you’ll get called 7/10 times

@TheTree1 4 года назад

Zeke Bones by what? this river bet is mostly bluffs and flushes. all flushes call and the bluffs containing the Kh shove, which is a disaster. no sets play it this way and hero blocks the shit out of top pair/strong two pairs. so maybe he gets this value from a random two pair (Ad2d) or sick hero call but that’s rare. tbh if that’s your target hero needs to basically click it back in the $425-$450 range.

@TheTree1 4 года назад

Mariano yes that was a bit of button clicking. if i was going to make this raise vs sticky stations i would basically click it back to $425-$450. mostly though this is just a snap call and except to see a flush or a bluff.

@jacobpotter2237 4 года назад

Zeke Bones agreed. Players in these games are far to sticky. They only look at their cards. Not what a raise is representing. They are bad. Most are never folding a set here. I’ve seen calls in this spot from two pair as well. You have to exploit that to get over the high rake. Of course this is game flow and player dependent.

@rickjames4406 4 года назад

Flopping top set with aces... and we are analyzing this lol seriously???? Who can’t fucking play top set?

@ryanbahnsen6429 Год назад

You sound like someone who would shove with this top set to a flush and get salty that your top set got cracked.

@bbbulldog61 3 года назад

Rake breakdown: In a no rake game 49% losers 49% winners, 2% break even. In a 2-5 game with a$7 drop 99% losers. 1 player out of 10,0000 can beat the game for $40 an hour. Bart could be the 1 out of 10,000. But 99% of poker don't play near perfect poker. A reasonable drop would be $3.50 plus .50 for the jackpot. Right now California casinos rape players and people are lining up to play. No vaseline.

@hymnofashes 4 года назад

More rake is better! It keeps pros from playing so games are softer and you can be a pro!

@WalterFoddis 4 года назад

😂

@branchtana315 4 года назад

....And without all the pros in the game, you can get away with being all loosey-goosey at the table eating a sandwich.

@hymnofashes 4 года назад

@@branchtana315 you're gonna have to eat a sandwich to stay alive while you sit there for 8 hours waiting to cooler an idiot that can't figure out you're a nit, and that's the truth

@branchtana315 4 года назад

@@hymnofashes What if I eat Chinese food instead of a sandwich? Will they think I'm a maniac instead of a nit?

@sinbaddidshazaam2533 4 года назад

How's more rake better.. don't pros play for fun

@ashtona 4 года назад

V could've folded T9o

@brayannoriega2800 4 года назад

Ashton Armstead no people don’t fold straights there especially to younger comp I’ve been caught many times by older folk calling with 2 pair on a 4 flush smh

@pizmasterful 4 года назад

First

@guitarfreak80ftw 4 года назад

Bart makes so many mistakes listening to this. He calls this 5-5-10. He calls the preflop action a 3! when it was just a BU iso raise.

@rubenquiroz2925 4 года назад

I did not like the video 👎

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