I once received 4 “fix it” tickets in 4-weeks. I had to fix whatever they had cited me for, take my truck for inspection at the police department, and then go to court and pay $25 in court costs, and a$50 fine. The 4th week in a row when the judge saw me setting in his court room, he asked me why I was there, I told him that one of my two license plates lights was burned out. The Police Chief, and the Senior Detective were there with a prisoner for arraignment. The Judge looked over at the Police Chief, and told him, “Chief I have the distinct impression, that your officers are harassing Mr. Thomas.” And, the Chief started argue with him. The Judge let him talk for a few minutes, and then said, “Chief i am now convinced that your officers are harassing him. You need to pay his court costs. Mr. Thomas You may go.” And the Chief started to argue with him. At which point the Judge said, “Chief you owe Mr. Thomas $225, if you and the Detective don’t have it on you, you can walk down to the ATM and get it.” The Chief again started to argue. And the Judge said, “Chief, one of you needs to hand Mr. Thomas the money within the next fifteen minutes, or I will have you jailed for contempt, until the Detective hands Mr. Thomas the money.” At which point the detective ran out the door, ten minutes later the detective came back with the money, and handed it to me. At which point the Judge said, “Chief, I trust that you will go discuss this with your officers, and I will not see Mr Thomas in here for any chickenshit things like the ever again.” After, that the cops left me alone.
Yeah, I had 2 years worth of that kind of thing. I couldn't do anything without a cop pulling me over, falsely accusing me of all sorts of nonsense and then writing nonsense tickets. The judges would see me and never pay much attention no matter how much I complained. Finally I started to learn to defend myself in court(because I was poor AF) and would waste the court's and cops' time/money as much as possible. It was funny that after I started doing that, they started leaving me alone.
I don't usually get behind lawsuits for "misunderstandings" but after 15 years if the Chicago PD can't figure out how to deal with it effectively, this guy deserves something.
Millions...they physically assaulted him and threaten his life with firearms multiple times...and if it happens again everyone involved looses their jobs and goes to jail...ridiculous...
The bigger story is the fact cops feel the need to pull their guns on someone that merely has a bench warrant for failure to appear on a non-violent, non drug related crime.
Ya, I noticed that too. And since this guy is innocent I doubt he's giving them cause to fear him themselves. It's almost surprising he's never gotten slapped with a nonsense CYA resisting charge or something.
@@buckhorncortez but he can assume the cops are violent. The cops that punched him, pulled guns on him and pushed him around, should be in jail. Almost certainly they recieved no punishment. That is the problem.
@@davidtherwhanger6795 Gas station attendants get shot at during robberies. Should all gas stations have armed security that follow customers around at gun point? Imagine thinking it's okay for cops to draw their weapons on anyone for any reason.
I was born in 1955, had drivers licence 4 years and applied for a job they wanted my driving record for. I had a couple of tickets but there were also a couple of tickets and a failure to appear with bench warrant for me from a city I had never been in before. I talked to my insurance man he did some research and found there was another man with the same first, middle, last name and birth date as me. He apparently applied for his licence after me and the DMV found my records and issued a duplicate rather than a new licence. This never caused me a problem, not because I was never pulled over, believe me I was, but the DMV solved the problem by issuing the other guy a new DL number and flagging my DMV info so the police knew I was not the person with the arrest warrant. If they could do that in the mid 70's they could do it now. no excuse for this man having this problem, NONE!
This reminds me of Earl Sampson from Florida who has been stopped more than 258 times by the Miami Gardens police and repeatedly charging him with trespassing at the convenience store where he works.
I was about to mention the same case. The cops were harrassing him mostly because the store owner had a beef with the local cops and banned all of them from his store. Apparently he stocks exceedingly good donuts!
@@amanofmanyparts9120 that’s not exactly true as to why the were doing it. The reason they were “banned “ was because of the harassment. The bannment was not what triggered the harassment.
@@truffleshuffle009 Actually it wasn't just the employee the cops were harassing, but many of the store's coloured patrons. Often just for parking in the car park.
@@amanofmanyparts9120 That is true although Sampson was their main target but that is not what I was replying to you about with your statment. I am pointing out that the owner and the police did not have an issue beforehand that lead to the reason for the targeting of customers and Sampson like you stated. What was going on is the police had a program called The Zero-Tolerance Zone Trespassing Program which the owner was happy with and took part in because that area had become a drug/gang hot zone and murders were rising rapidly. The owner however soon realized the police were abusing that program using it to racially profile people especially Sampson and a few of his customers. He never technically banned the police either just pulled out of the Zero-Tolerance Trespassing program and installing 15 cameras to catch the police doing illegal things which he did catch. The police not liking him pulling from the program started also targeting him as well which was all caught on the cameras.
My nephew had a warrant for shoplifting and failure to appear out of Washington state. He has been arrested several times in Georgia. They make him do 7 day's before releasing him. Washington will not pay for extradition, but will not drop the warrant
I've been served with divorce and child support papers and garnishment papers for a guy in the same county with the same name. At the time I was served with the divorce and child support papers I was single never married and had no children.
I had cps threatening to take my kids from me my kids were grown and not in the house but they coming back with cops calling me a child abuser finally had a neighbor that was a retired cop and he helped make it stop so thanks again Nick
@@JL_Lux that wouldn't work they are irrational and made up stuff...like I got arrested for trespassing on my land also for speeding on a bicycle while not having a licence and failure to give my ID... so I'll pass
@@street1111 oh i understand that they will be EXTREMELY inconvenience and many judges don’t value the humiliation of getting arrested. But the settlement is still on my mind. Like you idiots have l children with valid abuse reports and they go to the wrong door? Didn’t even check the school records?! So much negligence!!! And over charging should be grounds for civil cases as well! Speeding on a bike?! I’d love to see them prove it
I had a friend that got picked up for a warrant. Warrant was from the next county, so the locals held him at the county line until the other department showed up to take him. Part way into the trip he asked what the warrant was for and they inform him it was a terrific ticket from 1989. He tells them, "I was born in 1991, you are looking for my dad, David Sr." They quickly dumped him off on the side of the road.
Is this guy an insanely bad driver, drive a car in bad repair, incredibly unlikely, or is this common in his area of Chicago? I mean, how many people have been asked for their ID 60 times in 15 years?! Just being stopped that many times would be insanely aggravating.
New bill: All persons detained for a warrant that is not for them, more than once on the same warrant, shall be issued $1,000 plus $1,000 for each previous detention on that warrant. So second detention: $2,000 Third: $3,000 60th: $60,000
Like I said previously ; 60 times is going to be a BIG payday . But being Chicago in my opinion he'll be shot and killed before he wins his case . An accident of course, and with the non accountability the shooter will have to take a month or so off . . .with pay of course before returning to work. Just my opinion. Law has been weaponised obviously it appears. . . For example are you aware pleading the fifth doesn't by law have to be granted ? Then failure to answer the question truthfully will get you a contempt of court charge . Which if the judge chooses literally if applied can be a very, very, very lengthy sentence. The trade off being the person denied cannot be held accountable for their part in the associated crime. But this was a tool to get to the ' head of the snake ' from a witness. . . . Course witness protection is advisable if you aren't suicided prior to taking the stand . .
add to that Deducted from officers salary. x2 if same officer multiple times. 1x to fund finding/paying his replacement and 1x to pay victim. also loss of and bonuses or pay increases.
We hired someone in NYC once and had trouble getting the background check results back. There were 17 people with the same name and date of birth, not just in the NYC metro area, but just in the borough where they lived.
@@samantharondeau4580 I sense a trace of sarcasm there but I literally would rather have a system that errs on guilty people going free than innocent people being punished. Because most people are innocent, not guilty. That's the entire reason presumption of innocence (one should be presumed innocent until proven guilty) is supposed to be a thing.
This has happened to my nephew many times also. There is a criminal with the same name and birthday as him in Texas. He has spent days in jail because of this. Even though he looks nothing like this guy. It would take the police 5 minutes to check this out, but they never do.
As a 17 year old, I was harassed twice by a new local cop. I had out shot him in a pistol contest. After the second harassment, I went to the station and complained to the desk sergeant. As I finished my story, the watch commander(my Explorer Post Leader) walked in and said that he would take care of it. Never saw that cop again. The good old days when the older police officers didn't want people that they couldn't trust, around them up. Good Luck, Rick
That's often more of the specific department. The local cops are decent people...once you get to the bigger cities is where a lot of the trouble comes in as a bad cop gets bounced around, often a few steps ahead of being kicked out. Really small departments kind of vary heavily and have for all their existence.
@@AzraelThanatos : Yeah, I saw in a local paper a few years ago that one of our small-town police departments had literally _all 3_ members fired by the city council. Apparently they had to off-shore patrols to the county and neighbors for a while.
@@absalomdraconis There was one relatively local small town that had a massive legal war between part of the council and their police department. Both were idiots that caused it...started when a couple new cops were hired that refused to do favors for long term members of the council who demanded they be fired and the cops started investigating the council and it went back and forth there
In this day and age, you go in and complain about being harassed because you out shot him....., that will be last thing remember saying, if anything at all, when you wake up out the coma 6 years from now. They never got a chance to hear the part about the "contest".
@@furturisticfrontierfilms This was in the 60s when most of the police were WWII vets and a lot more calm. Many were friends of my family. But, you did not want to cross them.
I had a friend in the Army who had the same name, date of birth, and the same Social Security number as someone else. He found out because he wasn’t getting paid. He put in a pay inquiry and they found out that when he went to Basic Training the pay system rejected his information because he was already in the system and getting paid. My friend told them that he wasn’t getting paid and to please fix the problem. A few days later the MP’s arrested him and asked him who he was. He gave them his name and they told him that that guy was in Germany and had been in the Army for several years. His parents had to send a bunch of paperwork, and they figured out that my friend and the guy he shared a name with where born on the same day and their parents happened to give them the same names. The other guy’s parents got him a Social Security number first, and when my friend’s parents applied for his Social Security number, the Social Security people saw same name and same date of birth, and thought that this must be the same person and issued the same number as a replacement card.
I've got a common name. Believe it or not. Several people with my name are in prison or on parole. And of a different race. I almost lost a new job because somebody did a poor job on a background check. It makes me think about how many times I didn't get a job because of a poor background check.
@@robertlee9395 That sounds like a lawsuit against the people doing the background check. I know that you can sue credit reporting agencies for having false negative credit items on your credit report, maybe Mr. Lehto can comment on background investigation agencies making false claims of your criminal history.
This leads me to ask: if you have a warrant for driving without a license, can you renew your license and registrstion? Because it seems to me the fact that his license and reg was current during the stop would be a solid indicator it isn't him.
I think it would depend on the state. Here in PA, you don't actually need a DL to register a car. I know lots of elderly people who have cars but no longer drive. They keep it just in case someone needs to run them to the store and no other vehicle is available.
@@currentsitguy UrisMcFarmers point had more to do with the license. If they ran his valid drivers license, why did they assume it was issued to him in error? And after having been stopped there would be a record of him being stopped with a valid license. If he was the person they were looking for then he should have lost his assumed alleged erroneously issued license. Instead, on all of those stops he produced a valid license, since if he had not he would have been ticketed for not having a license and maybe this matter would have been cleared up, but by him for paying for a ticket.
@@Zaekyr I get what ur saying...BUT...I was turned down to be a cop after taking the test and the physical agility test because I was a WHITE MALE...they said they were only hiring women and minorities this time around...who knew...
My real name is James C.Williams jr. michigan state police held me on a child support warrant for James C. Williams sr. aka my deadbeat dad that I have not seen since I was 7.
the state of North Carolina started garnishing my wages not long after i turned 18 for unpaid child support from my dad, its scary how often that happens
Perhaps a bumper sticker stating "I'm not the Darrin Cole with any warrants" would help. In my Pa. town an out of control 5'2" Swat Commando wannabe constable was removed from his position by the state Attorney General's office for using his authority to try and get women....ie: (he bargains with a chic he had an arrest warrant for): "If you go out with me I'll see that your warrant goes away". His 1st name is Paul and he drives a Crown Vic to appear like a real cop. Around the corner from where former constable Paul was famously prosecuted and debadged - lives another guy with exactly the same model/color Crown Vic.... even with the same drivers side searchlight attached to the mirror. He put a bumper sticker on his trunk which reads: "I'm not Paul". I happened to drive by while he was nearby his car and asked him if that was his car, for which he nodded yes as we both had a laugh.
There is somebody with my name in San Antonio who is a registered sex offender. I learned this the hard way being taken down when going to my daughter's school. I was finally told to ask the volunteer reception, who issues the visitor badges, to run my name with my SSN. If done, everything comes back fine but, too often, my request would be ignored. When I would see the widening of her eyes I would just get down on the floor with my hands behind my back and wait. It was so much less painful to take myself down than to be thrown down. Gladly, my daughter was only there for 3 years and I seldom had issues when going to the high school.
From a legal standpoint, it would be lawful self defense if you redirected the person trying to tackle you into a wall head first. Even if it was a cop. Reading the comments on this video I am SO glad I am the only person with my combined first, middle and last names on the continent!
@@ianbattles7290 Legally no. I'm afraid that doesn't stop them though. But by all means, go ahead and resist arrest. Maybe you'll survive. If you're white anyway.
I had a similar situation down in Louisiana. I was mistaken for a local character in a small town in Louisiana. He was a small time hood. We looked remarkably alike, and, at the time of the stops, drove the same type of auto, same paint scheme. After the second stop, I put a small sign in the front window of the truck: "I'm not so and so." That seemed to work. Now, my run ins with coppers when driving a really beat up truck through the edge of "the hood" early in the mornings while on my way to work.... Fun and games, or, as the saying goes: "He fits the description." Love your program.
A 15 year old outstanding warrant for a failure to appear in court after driving with a suspended license. These things need an expiration date to address the cost-benefit of searching for the correct guy.
I was stopped and questioned every time for a period of 6 years flying in and out of USA , apparently I had the same name as someone who was wanted on a felony warrant, every time I was questioned I found out a little more about the wanted person each time I was stopped.It got to the stage I could tell them more about the wanted guy then they knew , the main giveaway was the wanted guy black I am white , I knew his occupation and his city of origin too
At least you have an explanation as to how you interacted with law enforcement. This guy has no visible reason to have an interaction. It really sounds like intentional harassment.
I had a similar situation Same Name First Name, Middle Initial, Last Name and birthday both originally from same state.. He had may still have a warrant in Phoenix, AZ for aggravated assault. Phoenix PD actually called be to ask me to turn myself in. So I mailed them a certified copy of my birth certificate, copy of my ID, copy of my SS Card, along with a sworn affidavit from our chief of police saying that he viewed the ss card and id and they were legal and sent to them signed and sealed from the police department. He also owes tens of thousands in back child support which I was almost garnished for and license threated to which I had to appear in court for. I had to add my full middle name to my license, registration on all my vehicles, and on payroll documents to tell us apart. Luckily I was never detained and overall only wasted about 2 days.
I work in medical records data analytics and I can tell you it is very common for multiple people to have the same name and birthdate. I would make an absolute mess of every report I ever did if I used name+birthdate as a unique identifier. It's scary that the cops are being this careless with warrants. Also - How is this man getting pulled over or otherwise subject to a warrant search 4 times per year for 15 years? Is he the worst driver in earth? I can count on my fingers the number of times in my life I've had the cops take my ID and do a warrant check. (All associated with traffic tickets.)
The real Darrin guy they're after is probably living in florida now. He relaxes on a beach in Florida while this guy in Chicago keeps getting harrassed.
Given that the warrant was for driving on a suspended license (which in the vast majority of cases amounts to Driving While Poor due to an earlier traffic infraction), I highly doubt he's relaxing on a beach anywhere, or that he had the money to move cross-country at all.
@@bwarhol According to Big Dill the guy has moved, okay, not Florida but Missouri. I've heard about this happening dozens of times. This gov't inflexibility is maddening, I have the same name as a guy on a terrorist watch list, fortunately although having the same middle name he spells it completely differently. You know, Stephan as opposed to Steven, Allen as opposed to Alan that sort of thing. Flying for me is like visiting my proctologist, so I sympathize with this guy in Chicago. I have no doubt this Chicago man has come across some cops who are power hungry, 2nd last time I flew I came across a power hungry Customs Officer. Wanted to do a strip and cavity search eventhough a 10 year old can see the spelling difference. I told him "in your dreams young man, I'd view that as rape so it ain't gonna happen sonny!" Finally some big boss showed up 8 HOURS LATER, apologized and let me go. We're in the computer age, there has to be a way of dealing with these mix ups. Most cops/Customs men/women are fine, they apologize and you go on, but I swear about 5% of them are on power trips. Crossing paths with one of these is a dystopian nightmare, complete infringement of citizens' rights.This typr of incident happens more than you may realize.
When I was in the Navy, I had a collateral duty to pick up and deliver mail with in the command. We're had the guys, who all has the exact same name, and two were born the same month and year, just three days off... None of them related to the other. We ended up calling them Shitty, Gritty, and Smarty. Weirdest part was they looked like and acted like brothers.
Man I remember being detained at the Canadian border by the US side. I fit the general description and my name was kinda close to one of the aliases this guy used. I was in a small room for a few hours getting grilled with the same set of questions repeatedly in different ways. It was scary and I was only 21. I can’t imagine Darren’s plight.
I can relate. I went to school with a kid that has my same name except for the middle name, we share the same bday, I moved out of the area and married a woman and found out later his wife also had the same first name. In school I had to go by my middle name to help prevent confusion. It is a pain especially when doing background checks and finding out that you have stuff on there that you have no idea about or how to prove that it shouldn’t be there.
A public notice declaring this with no responsibility for the ' other person's actions or debt incurred should be made by you. Keep it as record as it will protect you in the future if the need arises . Obviously it already has so all the more reason . Not sure of the laws in your area but usually a trip to the courthouse and a post in a cindicated news paper will usually suffice. I'd recomend you consult an attorney. .consults are usually free to you by a reputable attorney.
My son who is deaf and has no balance due to severe ear damage was harassed, assaulted, searched, threatened by the police in Cookeville Tennessee numerous times while attending the university. It totally soured him with law enforcement and damaged him much worse than his medical disability. The police can't police the police. This should be clear to everyone by now.
Deaf people are often abused/harrased by police who have ZERO training on disabilities in general. Happened with my mom and dad. I'm deaf too and I have a disability that causes me to have little balance and trouble walking. I haven't got my license yet because I'm worried I'll be accused of drunk driving despite being stone cold sober. I'll always ask for a blood alcohol test before agreeing to do any field sobriety test.
@@livyann2143 It's not a matter of "training on disabilities". Police are trained. They're trained to identify people who may be on an "illegal" or "controlled" substance. And they're trained to go after people that are moving in a certain way, or responding/not responding in a certain way. Police are drawn to people with certain disabilities, because some of the characteristics of disabilities are the same as people on illegal or controlled substances.
@@AaronHorrocks have you read what you said? Yes, some disabilities mimic intoxication. That means that cops should be trained to distinguish that from actual intoxication and not just arrest or shoot a deaf person for not following orders. You miss the point entirely- that cops are disproportionately abusing and killing those with disabilities. It needs to change, no matter how it's done because ableism is wrong. Wish I didn't have to point that out. Stop with your pro-policing shit. Even my far right friends hate the cops. Anyone that wants true justice and freedom should speak up with the way the cops are ran
At one time I was in a position to help a man in a state thousands of miles from me who was not able to get licensed because of a block for a DUI originating in my state where the man said he had never been. It turned out that there was another person with the same first, middle and last names and the same birthday, including the same year. The computer systems in this case did not include social security numbers, but with a little work he was able to get his driver's license. My suspicion is that he may have to go through this every time he tries to renew his license unless the original perpetrator satisfies all legal requirements to have the flag removed on the national system.
When I got back to Indiana from five years with the Army in Germany I had a difficult time getting insurance. That was because of a reckless driving incident in Indianapolis. The problem is that I hadn't set foot in my native state during the five years I was stationed in Germany. There are 50 Ronald Garretts from Indiana on Facebook. We finally got it straightened out. I was also profanely abused on Twitter for something a Ronald Garrett in Utah did. I've never been to Utah. I also ain't never been to Nacogdoches.
It's like that one Law & Order episode where there were twins and one was framing the other for his crimes, but the innocent twin didn't know the other existed. Basically the twins were adopted separately very young.
One thing that is always overlooked in these wrong detentions : as soon as you are detained and printed, you are in the criminal system forever. Boarding planes, crossing borders, applying for jobs that require a background check, etc. has just become so much more difficult. I firmly believe that if you are mistakenly detained, then the all records get purged, including prints, etc. The other option would be the person who does the false detention would also receive a criminal record. I've always found that people won't change their behaviour until it negatively impacts them.
Which is why we NEED to have a nationwide law that says that if you are declared innocent, and if it is your first arrest or something like that, then all records pertaining to it are to be IMMEDIATELY destroyed. Poof, like it never happened. The fact that it isn’t already is honestly Despicable.
I am surprised that this has not happened to me. Apparrently there are 5 people in Illinois with my name just around Clinton, IL alone. Back in 1981 I tried to write a check to buy gas and the clerk said she would not take my check because she knew who I was. I had never been in that town before and had only been there for about 5 minutes. How the hell would anyone know who I was? I showed her my drivers license and she told me about 4 other people in that town with the same name.
In the mobile home park I lived in shortly after my marriage 26 years ago, there were 2 others with the same name and we all belong to a certain group, one of them shared my profession at the time, another had worked for the same employer. Somewhere along the line one of the big 3 credit bureaus decided we were the same person and as a result everyone combined our information. Never mind that middle initials were different, don't worry about the 40 year discrepancy in ages, we were the same guy. Didn't harm me too much but I feel sorry for those guys with their impeccable credit rating suddenly deluges with my collections.
Geezus thats crazy. I've been detained in Chicago 3 times because of mistaken identity. Same circumstances. The guy had the same name as me and a close birthdate (not the same though), and felony warrants for child molestation. I was so happy when I saw that he was finally caught and sentenced.
I've been detained for someone else's warrant a couple times. Same first name, same last name, similar SOUNDING middle initial. Over the radio a V can sound like a C. Problem is, the birth date didn't match, age wasn't even close, and while I'm white, I was 18 and the warrant was for a 50 something year old black man. CLEARLY not me.
I took a driver’s education class in high school with a kid that had the same name, birthdate and father’s name. And all his siblings were the same ages as mine. Also my father was mistakenly drafted for Vietnam war because of same name, same birthday and same county of birth. But he was 8 years older so they figured out the error and he was processed out.
You know something is wrong, when police officers at the precinct you are being taken, greet you and talk to you in first name basis, ask you about your day and family, get you food and snacks and say "Back again, uh?" and you answer "Yep... got today's newspaper?"
I had a man living in my town with the exact same first, middle and last name as mine. He was a few years older than me, but he was not an upstanding citizen. It was a constant thorn in my side when it came to obtaining credit, or a job, or the inconvenience of people showing up at my door wanting money owed to them by this fellow, or having police from other states or localities calling on the phone wanting payment for outstanding tickets. I can only imagine the problem poor unfortunate Darren Cole suffered from this situation. My problem was mostly solved by the demise of my doppleganger. By the way his brother was a police officer in my town.
They must be pulling up a picture to find him so often, or matching a license plate, the problem would seem to be a computer system that matches name and DOB without matching SSN, and after dozens of incidents, no one has fixed this flaw in the database.
Yes! Steve made the best point when he says this isn’t something that says a lot about the Chicago police, rather the county where the perpetrator is actually from!
Used to work for a very large aerospace company. One of my co-workers had a very common name. They had 18 guys with the same first, middle and last name. For email they added a number after the name.
My brother and dad had the same first and last name. They worked for the same company. At one point there were six people with the same name. Then there was a guy at our church with the same name. Then a lady at our church with the same name as my brother's wife became ill and died. Some people were surprised to see my sister-in-law alive and well.
Question for you Steve, If the warrant, Im assuming its a bench warrant since you said it was for failure to appear, is 15 years old wouldn't there be some statute of limitations upon it? It seems that it should have an expiration date at some point.
I had to carry an order from a judge in Fairfax County because the VA DMV transposed the last two numbers of my SSN basically suspending my license and voiding it. I even went so far to have a letter signed by the Lt. Governor. But Fairfax County Road Pirates couldn't help themselves, the pulled me over on I-395 for going 55 mph in a 55 mph stating it was "suspicious" to drive the speed limit. He tried to arrest me even with the letter from the judge and Lt. Gov. and refused to call a supervisor. Fortunately he let my friend drive the 2 blocks to my house and wrote me a ticket. One of the best days in my life was the officer in court playing the dashcam stating he "didn't give a shit about some judge's order" and we were standing in front of the same judge. Oh, that was a good, good day. That judge made the officer and his supervisor apologize in open court and then had the command staff come to his chambers, lol.
At a place where I used to work we had two fellows who had the same first, middle, and last names AND the same birthday. The ladies who ran the office referred to them as black Jim or white Jim because they were black and white.
@@dixietarian it totally depends on how "black Jim" felt about it. If you are from the South, he probably hated it, but didn't say anything to keep his job.
@@yadayada752 It was a union job. If he had a problem with it he only had to say the word. I didn't know him well but I doubt he had any problem with it at all.
I had a similar experience... I knew the person... Same first, middle, and last. Born same day hours apart in 2 different hospitals in Greenville county S.C... Both of our parents attended the same college.. We both attended same elementary school... We even did 4th grade together same classroom... I went by my middle name that year and he went by our first name. He unfortunately died in car crash at age 19... I spent about a year running into friends and others who knew me that all thought I was dead... His obituary picture was real grainy... I also had to deal with being suspended due to tickets and charges in other states that never used social security number on personal data... it sucked
Many years ago, on a cold winter day, when I was a young college student, I was pulled over on my campus by the local sheriff's deputy, allegedly for going too fast. (I wasn't, but whatever.) I had just gotten a new insurance form for my vehicle and had a lot of stuff in my vehicle since I was also in the process of moving, and had interrupted my move for class that day. Long story short, I couldn't find the new insurance form in the few minutes the deputy was willing to wait for me, so he wrote a "no insurance" ticket, but not the speeding ticket. I found my insurance form (it was in the vehicle, just under some of the stuff I had packed to move) and I took it to the court clerk and, after they inspected it and verified that it was issued before the ticket was written, they administratively dismissed the ticket without having to appear before a judge. Over the next few weeks, every single deputy who worked that campus pulled me over for spurious reasons. "I heard your license was suspended" or "I heard this" or "I heard that" etc. None of those stops resulted in any more tickets, since I knew exactly where my new insurance form was, and I was always careful about my speed, signaling, etc. Still, it was annoying.
@@gavnonadoroge3092 Probably like the small town I live in-there is no "rest of the story" except bored cops "fishing" in the middle of the night. "What's this? I smelled a fart, I must investigate!" I got pulled over once because my "headlights were too bright." (And no, I wasn't driving with my high beams on, just my normal headlights.)
@@gavnonadoroge3092 There really isn't much more to it. I had to use my parents car at that age and it basically had no exhaust from the cat back. They nor I had the money to replace it so I kept getting pulled over. One cop even asked me if he had pulled me over a few days ago any my reply was something like "I dunno, probably, I've been pulled over a lot lately". On the 43rd stop I got what Steve calls a "fix it ticket". Still no money so a friend and I gathered up what was left of an old swingset from my uncles back yard, welded it into a makeshift exhaust just enough to get it quiet sufficiently to be legal. Funny thing is when you get one of those tickets you need to get it signed either by a certified technician OR another police officer. I had to actually drive to the sheriffs station and sit in the parking lot for 3 hours before I finally got a cop to pay any attention to me. He was very confused. He didn't even know an officer could sign. I had to show him the fine print. No one had ever done that before (in his experience). They're only around when you don't need em...
I have experienced this on a much lesser scale. Someone in another state with my name and birth date had his license revoked. Every single time I went to renew my license I have had to jump through hoops to get it done and then there's still a flag showing that his license is suspended so I have to deal with the cops wanting to arrest me in the few instances I've been pulled over. I don't know if it's still an issue because the last time I got my license renewed the DMV didn't say anything about it and the process was smooth enough but for almost 20 years I dealt with that.
I go through that everytime I try to renew my driver's license. All the gov goes by is a name and birthday. With all the technology available all they use is a name and birthdate and it's up to that person to prove themselves innocent. And yes i have to hire a lawyer to renew my driver's license.
That tracks. I was pulled over by the same cop 4 nights in a row, in the same 1/4 mile stretch, at roughly the same time each night on my way home from work. Each stop was for 'meandering' (drifting around in my own lane). It only stopped when I talked to his Sargeant and suggested I would stop giving out free pizza (I owned a Domino's and that was why I was out so late each night) to all the officers.
Had a similar situation when doing a routine background check on a guy for an EMS position. He shared his name and birth date with another individual who had a decided lack of interest in being a good citizen. Fortunately the man I was trying to hire was well known by myself and several other people in our organization and the community at large and we were able to clear things up quickly.
Wow back in the late 90s of the time of a year I was pulled over 30 plus times because a guy had the same car and first name as me. He had not live in the town for 5 years
There is actually an Italian comedy movie from the 80s . They even gave him a get out of jail card from when he was mistaken for the real gangster. Hahaha
Wow. I thought I had it bad since I have a guy in my state with outstanding warrants who has the same first and last name but different middle initial, and born in the same year and same day of the month but a different month. I've never been detained over it like this guy, but it means that traffic stops happen more often and take a lot longer while they double check all the info.
There's another guy in my state with my name and birthdate who is in prison for some major crimes. Since the police aren't looking for him, I've never had this happen, but ever since I moved here the background check drones for apartments and such keep thinking I'm him, even though we have different middle names.
Being the 4th child in my family and only son, it took me going into the 9th grade and signing up for football that we found out that my birth records and name was wrong. They put my name as my father's name and gave me his name on all the paperwork. Must have been abusy night at the hospital when I was borned. Yes, I have a very odd name but still when you look it up there are a few other people with the same name.
Another delightfully entertaining story! It reminds me of the 97% error rate (was that on unemployment overpayments?) story I watched a few days ago. But, Chicago and Marion PDs achieve 100% error rate. Wrong Darren Cole: 60 stops. Correct Darren Cole: 0 Stops. Is it weird to have a “failure to appear” sit out there for 15 years? At some point you need to ask yourself if you’re really going to find this guy. Are you going to give it to the Cold Case team? I
I hope the lawyers make it painful enough for each and every arresting officer including seizure or personal assets and property that no officer in the country would dare arresting anyone with that name.
I saw this very thing happen to a man named John Smith. He and another baby were born in two small towns, near Dallas Texas. They both had very similar details including being truck drivers. One had an outstanding warrent for murder, in Texas. The other man was law abiding. The second guy was picked up a couple times, including the office of his employer in Wisconsin. The saving grace was that one man was white and the other was black. However, the arrested man was told his license was suspended and he had to go before a Texas judge to straighten out the mess, before he could return to work.
I met the man who's SSN is Immediately prior to mine. We have different names and birth dates. Our home towns are 3 hours apart. But we both graduated Navy nuclear power school as mechanics, assigned to the same ship and held the same pay grade. He was my immediate supervisor for 4 years.
@@samantharondeau4580 This is a perfect illustration of why qualified immunity should be abolished. Nobody should be immune to civil suits or criminal prosecution for bad behavior just because of what their job is. Not even police. In fact, ESPECIALLY not police.
This is why I keep an active Google Alert for my name. I have a namesake (same first and last) who has committed some very serious crimes and I don't want to be surprised at the border, being mistaken for something he might have done recently. I routinely get email notifications for other namesakes across the US and Canada, but mostly for good things or things that are just innocuous. So far, I've not been bored by these updates.
I live in rural PA. In middle School I had a locker, on both sides of me was a kid with my name. Both first and last, but we did have different birthdays.
You would think the cops would learn after a while that they are just wasting their own time and energy if they keep picking up the same guy over and over again and having to release him due to this issue. That should in itself be a pretty strong incentive to stop but that the police continued makes me wonder if they were taking this chance to just mess with this dude.
It reminds me of a case in Australia many years ago ( mid 80's ?? ), there was a murderer or jail escapee, the photo id was fairly unique in facial hair, however the police kept picking up a backpacker / holiday person in rural area - it got to the point where one of the magazines were ready to print face masks
