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Porsche 924 / 944 Fuel Gauge Repair 

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In most cases, when the fuel gauge starts behaving erratically its due to a dirty fuel sender. So today I'll be showing you how to remove and clean your fuel sender in your Porsche 924 and early Porsche 944 to get your gauge working correctly again!
Note: Later 944's with the plastic tank have a slightly different setup and I'll be doing a video on it soon!
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Keywords: Porsche, 944, 924, 924S, repair, rebuild, engine, project, fuel sender, how to, diy, do it yourself, inaccurate, not working, fuel, tank,

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Комментарии : 84   
@MrStroller4u
@MrStroller4u 4 года назад
You Sir make owning a 944 affordable.
@gregandsueplummer6759
@gregandsueplummer6759 Месяц назад
Well done! Using your directions I just corrected the problem of the fuel gauge on my '84 944 NA bouncing around and reading empty when there was gas in the tank. I couldn't have done it without your instruction on how to create a special tool by modifying a flat blade screwdriver. (Probably available for $150 from Porsche.) Thank you. -Greg
@notalone2575
@notalone2575 2 года назад
Very well done video. Thanks edredas! You've not only saved us money, but you've helped us enjoy our 944s even more.
@jimomertz
@jimomertz 3 года назад
Thanks for this vid! I just did mine. I used contact cleaner. Worked well. Yeah those wires are scary thin. Have to be really careful not to damage them.
@martinskeet2111
@martinskeet2111 4 года назад
Your videos are so terrific. I just fixed the sender on my 1988 924S which just started to hover between half full and three quarters . I tended just to fill the car up to about three quarters full and on removing the sender from the tube I could clearly see dirt on the fine wires all around the three quarter mark. I would not attempt that job from reading a book - your videos make anything seem possible. Thanks!
@edredas
@edredas 4 года назад
Awesome! Thanks for sharing and I’m glad you got it working!
@Porschee944
@Porschee944 3 года назад
Master of 944
@uh3what
@uh3what Год назад
I have an 81 924 and the gauge is pretty similar, though mine was destroyed internally because someone left bad gas chilling in the tank for like 10 years, when I first saw the level I was confused what it was for but after seeing some vides I was happy to learn it wasn't some weird fuel pump thing. Great video!
@porsche944shenanigans3
@porsche944shenanigans3 6 лет назад
Just came across your channel. You good Sir are my hero. Thanks for all your videos. This one especially helped with my upkeep and current build.
@edredas
@edredas 6 лет назад
Thanks! Good luck with your project!
@louie4316
@louie4316 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing, I discovered your channel several weeks ago because I'm considering purchasing a 944. One of my favorite cars back in my teen years in the 80's.
@monkie-centurie4986
@monkie-centurie4986 2 года назад
Amen to this guy🙏 I just bought a 944 Thursday night, 2 days ago and I need to fix a few details here and there and man is saving me already on the first thing
@edredas
@edredas 2 года назад
Thanks! Always glad to help out!
@craigtullius9613
@craigtullius9613 7 лет назад
And now I'm going to have to do this to mine, thanks again for your great service videos, ✌
@edredas
@edredas 7 лет назад
No problem, and Good luck! I drove it today and it was nice knowing how much fuel I actually have in the tank!
@craigtullius9613
@craigtullius9613 7 лет назад
After 2 years of guessing the gas gauge , it's finally time to do it 👍
@rdnakx250
@rdnakx250 6 лет назад
I pulled mine after watching this video and it was so rusty I had to replace with a good used one. Now the gauge works great.
@jakekandl7874
@jakekandl7874 3 года назад
I used Harbor Freights Security Bit Set With Case, 100 Pc. and it has a slotted bit that works just fine to remove the bottom screw. $10.
@hugosmith9703
@hugosmith9703 2 года назад
Super easy looking fix, those modules are expensive, glad I saw this :)
@lfcfan4557
@lfcfan4557 Год назад
Thank you boss, your videos help me keep my 944. Much appreciated. 👍👍
@edredas
@edredas Год назад
No problem! Thanks!
@porschesluthporsche
@porschesluthporsche 2 года назад
Best fixes are using your ingenuity.👍
@richardmoore5384
@richardmoore5384 6 лет назад
Another very good video. Thanks Edredas👍
@edredas
@edredas 6 лет назад
No problem! Always glad to help!
@Cad1900
@Cad1900 3 года назад
Thank you...your videos are a real blessing to Porsche lovers like me. My gauge never would read full and now it’s stuck at 1/2 tank. Will my ‘84 be similar?
@edredas
@edredas 3 года назад
Yup! This video is for all 944's from 1982-1985.1. Good luck!
@AhmadAli-qg3ih
@AhmadAli-qg3ih 6 лет назад
Another very informative Video and Project for me to do.
@yanikstaley7405
@yanikstaley7405 7 лет назад
Awesome as always. Need to do this to mine
@fritzmuller8246
@fritzmuller8246 5 месяцев назад
I tried this but the main shaft was quite pitted , glass blasted it gently and it cleaned up well. That said , the low fuel light works when the sender is out of the car but not in the tank and the gauge just goes from zero to full regardless of the tank quantity if I power it up . Very confusing
@isaiflores292
@isaiflores292 6 лет назад
That's for the video... worked perfectly on mine... keep the good videos coming
@stdo9581
@stdo9581 7 лет назад
Perfect video, thank you very much...I'm looking forward to see the next one... regards from germany
@edredas
@edredas 7 лет назад
Thanks for watching!
@scottfaivre272
@scottfaivre272 7 лет назад
Nice work Edredas! Love the videos!
@edredas
@edredas 7 лет назад
Thanks!
@user-ne2ss7pj6i
@user-ne2ss7pj6i 7 лет назад
Great video, as usual
@edredas
@edredas 7 лет назад
Thanks!
@alpinewhite
@alpinewhite Год назад
Thanks for the video. Without having to pull the sender out, I should be able to short the purple wire to the brown wire and watch the gauge go from empty to full, correct? That'll prove that the gauge is not faulty.
@edredas
@edredas Год назад
Yes! 👍
@billdenbow2338
@billdenbow2338 7 лет назад
Same type sender as in the Type 3 VW.
@nzazanis
@nzazanis 4 года назад
perfect video many thanks now i can fix it by myself.
@edredas
@edredas 4 года назад
I should have shown it in the video but I later compared this one here that I cleaned to a brand new sender out of the box and it performed exactly like the new one. Good luck!
@RS4KING
@RS4KING Год назад
Great vid, I have a 86 with the oval dash, but I assume it's pretty much the same work here. I was thinking of just buying a new sending unit and swapping it out. This video gave me the confidence on doing it myself since to be honest, I'm not mechanically inclined. Also, does this sending unit also tell the pump to stop fueling because it's "full"? I realized the other day my 944 doesn't stop the pump.
@edredas
@edredas Год назад
I also made a video on the later cars fuel sender setup. I'm guessing you mean the pump at the service station? The nozzle on the service station pump uses a venturi device that knows when to stop when full. So if it isn't stopping the pump then you could have a leak in your fuel system not allowing it to stop. I hope that helps!
@RS4KING
@RS4KING Год назад
@@edredas you got a link for your vid on the later car for the sender setup?
@HappyJackRacing27
@HappyJackRacing27 4 года назад
Thank you!
@darrenrose6628
@darrenrose6628 7 лет назад
Thanks my porsche 944 1986 gas gauge is stuck in one place...awesome tutorial...
@edredas
@edredas 7 лет назад
No problem! I hope this helps you get it working again!
@hicadt
@hicadt 7 лет назад
Nice video, never seen a sender taken apart before, good info..
@kathrynshaw810
@kathrynshaw810 5 лет назад
Great video just completed mine but the plastic sleeve around the nut came off ,the nuts ok but does the plastic sleeve need to go back on, it seems very loose now and won’t stay on Thanks again
@edredas
@edredas 5 лет назад
Maybe just a washer will work? I would just use something to snug it up and it should be fine. I hope that helps!
@gabrielv721
@gabrielv721 2 месяца назад
So on a fuel related question. I get wafts of fuel oder on hard acceleration on my 87 944 any ideas ? Is it vacuum control valve related?
@edredas
@edredas 2 месяца назад
Change the rubber fuel lines now if you still have original lines. Then send the injectors off to be cleaned and flow matched so you will know they are leaking externally. Also change the fuel pressure regulator seal and make sure there is no fuel coming out of the vacuum line on it. While these may not be your issue it’s a good place to start whenever you smell fuel since it could be a sign your car is getting ready to burn to the ground. Once those are addressed you can check the less serious issues such as charcoal canister etc. however anytime I’ve smelled fuel in the past on these cars it’s usually something bad that was luckily caught just in time.
@gabrielv721
@gabrielv721 3 года назад
Speaking of fuel I passed emissions but failed Evap on my 87 944 any idea on common leak point s on these cars to look for?
@edredas
@edredas 3 года назад
Its a fairly straightforward system. There's a plastic line that runs from the tank to the charcoal canister behind the front fender with a 'T' in the line. The other line runs off of it to the emission control valve. Depending on the year of your car you can look up all the vacuum lines that run off of it and make sure they're connected. I also made a video on the vacuum lines that may help! Good luck!
@jennerhecox
@jennerhecox Год назад
Thanks for the video! I need your help haha I have a 1987 924s. I followed your video and my fuel gauge still doesn't work. While the cylinder was out of the fuel tank and I twisted it and heard the rubber mechanism moving to full/empty and the gauge still didn't read correctly. I then unplugged the three plugs to clean the terminals and still, same issue. Any ideas? Every other gauge on the dash works. Im guessing its just wiring, is there a way to verify/fix.
@edredas
@edredas Год назад
You can try grounding the wires. The brown wire is the ground you can use. You should see the gauge go to full or the red light come on depending on the wire. If the gauge doesn't go to full, then there is an issue with the gauge itself.
@jennerhecox
@jennerhecox Год назад
@@edredas thanks!
@tempest411
@tempest411 7 лет назад
Have you ever considered doing a video on how to judge the condition of one of these cars when looking at purchasing one? I hope to be looking for a reasonably clean '83-85/1 'roller' in the next few months if you know of anyone looking to sell.
@edredas
@edredas 7 лет назад
I have been planning to do a buyers guide video that will include an early and late car, even a 924S. At the moment I either need to clean up my cars and use them in the video or borrow some some clean examples. Not sure which I'm going to do yet, but both will take some time and planning. To make it easier I might just make three separate videos instead, thanks!
@tempest411
@tempest411 7 лет назад
Cool. I've never read about anyone taking one of those apart. It's so easy, I wonder why?
@edredas
@edredas 7 лет назад
Not sure since I've had to do this to every car I've ever worked on. As far as I know, carb cleaner is the only thing that works, so perhaps others have tried to clean the wires but ultimately failed to get it to work.
@notalone2575
@notalone2575 2 года назад
For me personally, I've always been intimidated to work with anything fuel related on my car. This vid made me realize, notorious fuel gauge issue fix is no big deal, as long you disconnect that battery.
@lotsar9682
@lotsar9682 3 года назад
My fuel guage light is always on will this fix the problem?
@edredas
@edredas 3 года назад
Could be that someone mixed up the wires on the sender. Since the float has to go all the way down in order to turn it on, it could be that the wire is just grounded out somewhere. I hope that helps!
@BusyHands53
@BusyHands53 Год назад
Have you ran into any issues of your 924 dying shortly after starting? Mine starts for about 4 seconds and dies. I am a bit new and very lost on Porsche’s.
@edredas
@edredas Год назад
Check for vacuum leaks. The hoses under the intake are often forgotten and left disconnected while others are prone to deterioration.
@BusyHands53
@BusyHands53 Год назад
@edradas thanks. I did notice the vacuum lines were pretty stiff. I’ll replace the rest of them.
@stevelaumann
@stevelaumann 5 лет назад
I’m unable to wiggle the sender unit out of the tank. It seems to reach the end and won’t budge with reasonable (and slightly more) force. I wonder if some varnish has developed on the end. Any ideas? Let a little carb cleaner run down the unit? How much force can this delicate unit take?
@edredas
@edredas 5 лет назад
Sometimes that happens. I've found that the round plastic piece on the bottom isn't always centered correctly. So find the side that is catching and try to remove the opposite side first. It should slip out sort of at an angle then the other side should come out. Might take a little effort but if you're careful you shouldn't really hurt it. Before re-installing it you can use some sand paper and correct the side that is catching... then just spray it off to remove any dust. I hope that helps!
@stevelaumann
@stevelaumann 5 лет назад
Thank you. I got it with some twisting and tilting. It seemed as if the housing was a little out of shape (flared at the bottom) as opposed to the off center plastic piece. It was trouble placing it back also. Nonetheless, it works! And I have a quarter tank...who knew? I’ve learned from your other videos and I’m anticipating more. Valve job? Fuel distributor rebuild?
@beckbuchanan32
@beckbuchanan32 7 лет назад
hey would you know if there any tricks to get the water temp gague working on my 85.5 na . i put a new temp sensor in and checked the wires and the grounds and i can't seem to get it working ... anything I'm over looking?
@edredas
@edredas 7 лет назад
Hard to say, but I once worked on an early 944 with a non-functioning temp gauge. I ended up having to pull the gauge and clean the contacts. I hope that helps!
@CruizersMotorsports
@CruizersMotorsports 6 лет назад
Instead of cleaning it, do they offer a replacement do you know?
@edredas
@edredas 6 лет назад
Yes, there are two different types but you can buy these new for about $115. The later model senders are around $200.
@jackallen6261
@jackallen6261 6 лет назад
Wow! 3.19 for Super, is that 91 or 93 octane? I am paying 2.79 for 91 here in Oklahoma (we don't get 93 here) It's amazing how simple a lot of the stuff on these cars really is. Would my 86 951 have this style or the later style? Thanks for the video!!
@edredas
@edredas 6 лет назад
I filled up with 93. That said, NC has always had expensive gas but we have nice roads for the most part. A lot of people around here drive to SC to fill up but it really isn't feasible for me. The roads are terrible in SC, so its a trade off I guess. Also, your car will have the late fuel sender. I hope that helps!
@corymoll9572
@corymoll9572 4 года назад
Ive actually found flat head tips that are notched for these exact applications
@corymoll9572
@corymoll9572 4 года назад
Harbor freight bulk driver bit kits
@ronniebozeman4867
@ronniebozeman4867 6 лет назад
Would that be the same for a 87 Porsche 944? I really enjoy your videos they are very helpful thank you!!!!!
@edredas
@edredas 6 лет назад
Its a similar process but it is different. I have the sender pulled from my 1986 944 to film that episode but haven't gotten around to finishing it yet. To clean the late sender you need to remove to two hoses on top, then use an oil filter wrench to remove the ring cap. Once that's done it just comes out, but rather than using a modified screw driver you'll just need a small socket to remove the two tiny nuts. I hope that helps, and thanks!
@ronniebozeman4867
@ronniebozeman4867 6 лет назад
edredas cool my speedometer doesn’t work as well I’m wondering if replacing my speed sensor will get mine to working as well?
@edredas
@edredas 6 лет назад
That's usually the culprit. I don't hear about the speedometers going out too often, but I suppose it does happen. You might could try finding a cheap used one first to test with before dropping a lot of money on something that might not be the the issue. I hope that helps!
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