potential problems with the 2015 Dual-Graphics MacBook Pro 15" 

For those still interested in picking up a MacBook Pro 2015 with the M370X, another creator made an excellent video detailing the process of replacing thermal paste in these A1398 laptops! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bUnm-korNUE.html

Yes, yes it is. It still is in 2019! Just replace the thermal paste and you are good to go. It's really easy. Not hard at all.

I’m blown away. This video makes no sense. Your logic is the same as saying “I bought a newer 2015 vehicle and for the price I paid I shouldn’t have to get the oil changed”. The thermal paste is a very quick, simple, instant fix that would literally change your entire opinion about the machine. Why would you go so far as to hunt down the exact specs you wanted, finally find it, pay roughly $1700 USD, and then draw the line at a $7 syringe of thermal paste for optimal performance????!

I have the same Macbook pro and I fixed the issue exactly by changing the paste. It is important to use a good paste. So I still can say it is the best Macbook.

Love this video and love your whole manner ! You have a lovely way of explaining everything. Thanks so much 😊

Thanks for your insight, am looking to go portable and this advice was really useful!

thankyou sooo much for this wonderful summary & to the point pro review! Awesome!!

I just picked up this exact model with upgraded SSD for $899 USD. Had the same issue with heat and fans. Replaced the thermal paste with Corsair TM30 compound, gave it a clean OS install and cleaned out all the dust. Now she idles around 15 degrees Celsius less, fans are much quieter and runs cooler under load.

thanks for comparing man!

I bought this after this video. I did a repaste and a thermal pad mod to make the heat pipes transfer heat to the bottom plate. I also have a fan control app running and I'm undervolting by 150mv. It idles in the low to mid 30s, RU-vid at 1080p60 it's in the low to mid 50s. Under cinebench running it spikes to 100 degrees and spikes down to 50. The cinebench score is 1440 CBs. Geekbench is 4600 single, 16,100 multicore. In the freezer the cinebench was over 1500 CBs and geek bench was up 100 for single and 300 for multi.

loved the video bud, i feel like im learning so much about things I still cant afford hahahaha killed it

Well interesting to know these have that good of a resale as I have this exact same model yeah it is a hot running sucker under load.. but it does handle photo editing for me really well... AND its got the keyboard ahhh the keyboard there is a reason why still in 2019 even this model is being called the last great MacBook Pro

I enjoyed the video, keep it up! :)

thanks for the honest review, tired of just watching folks defend their purchases.

Still a very popular model. I just picked a beautifully refurbished one up from Techable. It's a beast and better than all of the touch-bar models that are completely unrepairable. Love it!

I'm using the OG rMBP (mid-2012 15") but I'm looking for an upgrade but I'm not sure if the 2015 rMBP will suffice or the 2018 is better. I'm working with a lot of graphic design, web design/development, lil bit of video editing, also tons of opened tabs in safari. Looking forward for your suggestions.

If you still have this laptop I would open it up and clean out the dust build up inside with some compressed air that could be the cause of the high temperatures you're seeing . A lot of used Macbooks have never been cleaned during their life spans, when it comes to electronics dust kills.

You Can limit the speed of the CPU...SO you keep the laptop cool. And change the thermal paste.... which one is the best?

Sir, I've seen i7 2,5 single gpu and dual gpu. But, is all of mbp 15 2015 i7 2,8 cpu have dual gpu, intel+amd?

I just picked up a used 2015 locally for all the reasons you mentioned. Fully aware of the thermal issue, I opened it and applied new thermal paste. Idle CPU temp dropped by more than 10 degrees (C) to about 40 and max temp stayed around 90-95 under heavy loads. Applying thermal paste is VERY easy and cost less than 10 bucks if you already have tool to open the apple screws. Go ahead and do it.

Is the U model signifcantly better than the T model? MJLU2LL/A vs MJLT22LL/A . You should be able to get a U for about $1400 with tax on Ebay & from a reputable professional seller.

Hai broo, thx for the video.. i really enjoy to this video, but are you already change the battery on apple store? I heard that mbpro 2015 especially for MJLT2 MJLU2 has an issue for the battery that can harm/burn so apple announce to give replacing battery service for free

I bought one refurbished, also with the same graphics card(mid 2015 2.5, I7, 512 ssd) and when rendering video the fans do go full blast, but rendering is a lot faster on it than on my Mac mini I was using to edit long form video. If I get another computer for editing it would be a 5kimac. I got to have ports at least a sd card reader on a laptop.

Good video bud!

Excellent video. Really liked it. I am confused between the same configuration as yours - 2015 15 inch MBP and a Mid 2014 15 inch MBP (with Nvidia dedicated graphics with 16gb RAM and 512 SSD). Force touch Trackpad and SSD read and write speeds are the only major differences between the 2 models. What should I go with? 2015 15 Inch (1TB SSD + AMD RADEON) or Mid 2014 15 inch (512 SSD + Nvidia 750) ?? My use is casual and not heavy video editing. I would prefer something that lasts longer and cooler. Force touch Trackpad and SSD speeds are the only differences that I am concerned about. I am getting them both for the same price of 1000USD. Could you suggested which one would be a better buy ?

My dad has this exact MacBook Pro (His work bought it for him as he's the senior graphic designer there) and from what he's said to me, he loves the thing and we both refuse to get the new macbooks because of the horrific feel of the butterfly keys, but more importantly, whilst my MacBook Pro 13 inch is silent 80% of the time, his, for seemingly no apparent reason will kick its fans into hyperdrive, apparently it's a known issue with the radeon powered macbooks where they just decide they want to get really hot for no reason and blast the fans

Replacing the thermal compound isn't that hard.

Force touch trackpads don't send your fingers and electromagnetic pulse... The thermal paste is the easiest on the retina MBP to replace than other laptops, Mac or Windows

Did you try w/ Iris Pro only? I was curious of the difference if using the i7 2.5 w/ R9 M370X vs the i7 2.8 w/ Intel Iris Pro only? For medium photoshop & some 1080 editing. Update: I use for 1080 edit (4k capable, just tad slower) w/ R9-M370X on the i7-4980HQ 2.8GHz to external Cinema Display. ! or 2, it can only run AMD GOU so it will get warm so changing the thermal paste helped. Artic Silver No5 is awesome. It's so easy on this model as the GPU & CPU heatsink is right there as you remove bottom. Bing bang done. Or "Bob's your uncle" as Nan wold say.If you realy wanted 4k edit power for half the cost & don't need to be mobile w/ it, old Mac Pro single hex core is good w/ AMD R9-580X 8g, w/ room to change out for 12 core later. It's Westmiere EP low TDP so 1 gen older then in this but high end Xeon. I use my late 2012 Mac Pro 5,1 dual Xeon X5675's for exactly that workload when I need it.

I am looking at buying a MacBook Pro 2015, 15", 2.8GHz, 16GB RAM, and running a second monitor (32" 1440p) using the AMD Radeon R9 M370X GPU with either the Intel Iris Pro (1536 MB) or Intel Iris Pro 5200 which is better for video editing and all out screen performance?

Got the same exact one but without radeon cars and only intel card but it’s was less than $800 so to me it’s a W

I have 10-25 projects open in photoshop, no problem. huge project files. while having Illustrator and InDesign open in the background as well as chrome. It's fine... but not for 4k video, fine for 1080p video rendering.

This is before the 2019 16” Mac right?

How is the USB-C movement going to effect technology in the immediate future?

Picked up the same laptop for $950 last month. It was in almost brand new condition, manufactured in 2016 Even when playing games it doesn't get that hot

I've got a 2015 Macbook Pro too, I changed the thermal paste, ram and got a bigger ssd. Literally such a big performance change and wasn't really expensive.

Maybe that program is using internal GPU & not the dedicated GPU - see if there's a way to make sure hi end GPU is used. ow to Disable Graphics Card Switching on MacBook Pro This will disable GPU switching and force the MacBook Pro to use the higher powered discrete graphics card rather than the integrated GPU. Go to the  Apple menu and choose “System Preferences” and then go to “Energy” control panel Uncheck the box next to “Automatic graphics switching” Note the text which states this may decrease battery life on the MacBook Pro “When automatic switching is disabled, your computer will always use high-performance graphics. This may decrease battery life.” - if you are not OK with that do not disable this option Close out of System Preferences  You can always return to the Energy preference panel to re-enable the GPU switching feature if desired. For MacBook Pro users who want to manually control their GPU use, you can use a third party tool like GFXCardStatus which has been around for quite some time and still works on most modern MacBook Pro models as well. As mentioned earlier, most MacBook Pro users will not need to adjust this setting and should not adjust this setting, instead letting Mac OS determine what apps should use what GPU as necessary. Rarely, if you discover some game is not properly triggering the GPU switch, you can turn the feature off to force the discrete graphics card to be active instead. That’s usually the result of a bug in the particular game or app, so updating the app first would be a good idea to see if that allows the game to use the intended GPU. If you are toggling this setting for gaming performance reasons, you might also want to use this trick to improve game performance on MacBook with Retina displays too, which uses lower resolution but can dramatically boost frame rate. More Related  How to Manually Switch Graphics Cards on MacBook Pro  A Solution for MacBook Pro Booting to a Black Screen  Will the next MacBook Pro get Quad-Core Sandy Bridge chips? Related How to Show Website Favicons in Safari for Mac How to Bypass “Safari no longer supports unsafe extension” Error in Mac OS Mojave How to Allow Pop-Up Windows in Safari for Mac Previous PostNew Apple Commercial Shows Off Portrait Mode For IPhone 7 Plus Next PostBeta 3 Of IOS 10.2.1, MacOS 10.12.3, WatchOS 3.1.3, TvOS 10.1.1 15 responses Keir Thomas January 8, 2017 GFXCardStatus no longer works reliably on modern MacBook Pros. Use instead this fork that corrects some broken code: github.com/steveschow/gfxCardStatus/releases Sarah Peters March 13, 2017 Hey, I have a 2010 MacBook Pro, but it has the GPU crash problem (which was common with these & the 2011s); I get a GPU panic & my laptop restarts usually when there are 1080p or Flash graphics; Is there an app or way to stop/slow these problems instead of replacing the graphics card? Thanks.-Sarah :) Zohaib Qasim May 23, 2017 Yeah there is an app GFXcardStatus, it’s only a temporary fix the only fix you need to take your macbook Pro to apple support. John May 22, 2018 The fork is no longer maintained. Check out this app that does the same thing: github.com/CodySchrank/gSwitch Dana January 8, 2017 Setting is missing in macOS Sierra 10.12.2 Dana January 8, 2017 I guess it’s my mistake. My 2015 15″ MBP Retina appears to only have integrated IRIS Pro graphics. Sorry, I should have checked that first. Tori March 25, 2017 Is there a way to alter these settings in a different way with the same objective then? This is what I was advised to do for a malfunctioning game prior to sending a report. M February 24, 2017 It’s not on Yosemite (10.10.4) either. Eric August 25, 2017 “Generally speaking GPU switching is a great feature that should not be modified or adjusted in any way” The Mac motto of telling users how to use their computers. Joe September 3, 2017 Unless your one of the people (like I am) that are suffering from the MBP GPU Panic (Mid-2010 model), this helps a lot. Blake Wilson December 5, 2017 Thank you so much for this information. I was searching this question but couldn’t find. You helped me a lot. Thanks once again. Ryan February 2, 2018 I’ve tried this with my maxed out late 2012 MBPr and the settings never stick. Especially after a restart or shut down and start up. Anyone else had this problem? Shane McCurdy February 13, 2018 Late 2011 MacBook Pro 17″ with the same graphics card issues. Just took mine apart and heated up the AMD discrete GPU with a heat gun for 5 minutes and popped it all back together and ~voila~ it works now. Installed the gfxCardStatus from a few different sources because mine wouldn’t stay on Integrated Only like it should. Finally found this fork from a contributor that works great! He set the default to Integrated Only on opening, rather than Dynamic Switching. You probably have to change your security settings to run it - FYI. If you are having these same issues, don’t use external monitors, and limit graphics heavy tasks. gfxCardStatus recommends not using Chrome, but I will probably use it anyway. github.com/steveschow/gfxCardStatus/releases/tag/v2.4.4i Cody April 20, 2018 gfxCardStatus wasn’t working anymore for me on high sierra so I rewrote it in swift. If anyone has problems with it you should try mine github.com/CodySchrank/gSwitch Eli June 12, 2018 Hi Cody, how do you get the MBP to boot up in integrated mode? Since I can’t see my screen and can only control it via Screen Sharing or AirPlay, the integrated selection doesn’t stick and app returns to dynamic mode. Am I missing something? Leave a Reply Name* E-Mail* Website Publish Back to top MobileDesktop All content Copyright OSXDaily.com

very nice

Just purchased this same 2.8Ghz model on ebay to replace my 2015 MacBook that i've had endless keyboard issues with. realized i should have went MBP to begin with. made an offer on ebay for $500, feeling like I got a solid deal

Nice video! I know what you mean, bro! I traded my Mac Pro 2013 for a Macbook Pro 2015, and I love it!

So did you stick with the 2015 MacBook Pro?

I've never had experienced my 2015 laptop with amd graphics to run that hot? it run warmer at times like rendering for sure, but the fans goes off louder and it's never "hot" like you experience.

Change the thermal paste, add a 960/970 pro ssd and thermal pads across the gpu/cpu and entire heat sink and it barely went over 60c with two 4K monitors @60hz 4K editing and adobe. 2.5 i7 version.

Hello did can use both video cards at the same time?

do you run Catalina on it?

Skylake a "huge speed improvement"? Not at all, speed didn't change up until 2018 with Coffee Lake

how much were you able to pay for it?

why did you "cover" your serial number?

Bidding on this exact model on eBay with 100 battery cycles. 😎

Don't run the laptop on a table without having it up on a stand; external fan is also possible.

Why not go for 2019 16inch one? It's the best macbook so far

I'd love to get one of these. I'm stalking a few of them on Craigslist.

I dont know about US prices, but I paid £1200 for a professionally refurbished one of these. I hope that's a good price for this, seemingly amazing laptop. Guess I'll find out when it comes!

Is there a song yet called " dongel life"

How will Apple support it with software updates?

Im editing 4k with premiere on 2012 mbp

is it still worth it in 2020 for 1100GBP ?

what is your old laptop model?

You paid $2600 for a laptop with dinosaur processor? Why?? At that price you could easily bought a new MacBook Pro with updated ports.. Thunderbolt 3 is a better solution plus the SD slot doesn't support high speed cards (That's you'll more than likely need for 4k video anyways)..

just got one for $1100 with a year warr anty...mint...probably do the paste

You hear macbook pro is too pricey. I can do video editing and some heavy composition projects in cubase

What laptop u using now?

It's not hard to replace thermal paste.

What about 2021?

They cost $999 USD on ebay (November 2018) not $2500.

you should clean the dust of the fans and repaste the thermal paste, mine is the same config as yours and runs way cooler. If you buy a new laptop because of this... im sry but stop doing drugs :D im joking haha great vid

One easy fix- Re-install MacOs that originally came with this MacBook=ElCapitan or Sierra will without doubt help run your OS & video files fast while keeping the fans quiet. I had many MacBook Pros back since G4 PowerPC to Intel Core duo days & the Original reinstalled OS was hands down always the fastest bar none. Sure I could run the latest Yosemite or El Capitan but at a hefty price. CPU & Fans would max out instantly doing video editing. Earlier graphics drivers screamed on later hardware. Sure you 2015-16 Macbook Pro may run the latest Mojave MacOs but at a hefty price - Go back & try Yosemite & I bet ya your MacBook will fly doing the same video editing without maxed CPU or Fans. From experience.... ☮️

2,500?

The machine is still rock! but bro, you just over-paid for it

Reek. No 1800$ is not worth it for a 2015 way to much. The new ones have much newer processors. Much better thermals ( well at least the 2016 compared to the 2015) screens are better. A lot of other things. Reparability does get worse as the you go up in generations tho. I don’t get my people complain absolutely type c. It’s much better than type b or any other usb. It’s faster can transfer power data audio and video all in one. I guess I understand tho. Dongles are annoying.

Just ordered one of these off backmarket for $1K.

Buy new Dell or Lenovo laptop with similar spec and do some hackintoshing if you have a time.

Hey Spencer, awesome video! Here's a device spec page with video and market price for the 2015 Macbook Pro 15" MJLU2LL/A: techable.com/apple/specs/macbook-pro-core-i7-2-8-ghz-15-inch-dual-graphics-mid-2015/

Nicely explained. Very good accent you have. I have already subscribe to your channel. I'm about to open my RU-vid channel. Wish me luck. Be safe, carry on.👍♥️🇮🇳

what was that half assed attempt to blur your serial number 🤣

just repaste the CPU.. JEEEEZ its so easy.

This is a silly video. You bought the most upgradable MacBook of all time that happens to 4-5 years old and you do want to upgrade the thermal paste? So you’re choosing to do what with it now? Poor form. 7 of my mins lost 🙄

Good thermal paste is like 20 dollars dude, what the hell are you crying about?

My guy you paid too much. I paid $700 for the same minus the max storage (500gig). Why oh why did you do that.

Lol that price you probably could’ve gotten the 16 inch if you waited 2 years

Serial Number: C02QD1RKC8WM 😔

i hope your original battery lasts because if not, you end up beng like me and your machine will be useless and so slow....

This guy spent 2600 on a macbook which will soon die due to the graphics card/heat issue..

2500? Lmao bruh i got a new one for $1270

Lazy

Why do you want a thin body??? Why not have room in there.

You OVERPAID I just got a 2015 15 inch and I paid $1500

hehehe...just get an high spec windows laptop - run Hackintosh and thhhaaaank me later

Is this model good for IOS development?