Gods word will never come back void. Joseph Smiths word cannot stop God's word from doing its work in these two young men's hearts. God bless you Pastor Jeff D.
Great job once again JEFF ...You John MacArthur JAMES WHITE Voddie Bachum Steve Lawson Paul washer Alistair Begg Dr Jeremiah are my favourite PASTORS. But I have to say Johnny MAC is my number one. But I love you brother..
00:38:14-00:38:16 the speaker has it totally wrong on this point he makes here. Rather, Jesus repeatedly tells us that we will be judged Exclusively based on our Works - Matthew 7:21-24 & 25:31-46. While we only even have the opportunity to be Saved through Grace because of Jesus and what He suffered for us, His Teaching is so extremely clear that we will go to Heaven or to Hell based Exclusively on our Works - what we Do or Don't Do - and He lists those out Works specifically as: Obey My Commandments (so many places, can't site all here); Believe and be Baptized Mark 16:16; receive Jesus through the Eucharist aka Holy Communion Eat My Body & Drink My Blood, My Flesh is True Food John 6, literally the entire Chapter - first half teaches how is possible and second half explains it's really His Body & Blood we must consume and verses 53-54 He tells us that if we don't, then we don't have eternal life; Feed the Hungry, Give Drink to the Thirsty, Welcome the Immigrant, Clothe the Naked, Visit the Sick, Visit those in Prison. Jesus clearly says only those who did those Works will go to Heaven and those who didn't will go to Hell for all eternity. Even if we truly believed in Him, preached in His Name, and even if we do miracles in His Name, unless we actually do the Works, we will Not be saved. Belief that Jesus is God, the Trinity: Three Persons (Father, Son Jesus, Holy Spirit) One God and that He can Save us, just isn't enough, even the demons believe God is One and they tremble James 2:19. We must do the Works or we'll go to Hell. Matthew 25:31-46. Rather than remaining a part of a Christian denomination created within the last Century or so, I invite everyone to join the fulness of Truth, the Catholic Church, founded in 33ad - the only Christian Church founded by Jesus Christ Himself on St. Peter Matthew 16:18. This Church is pillar and foundation of Truth 1 Timothy 3:15. The gates of Hell will Never prevail over the Catholic Church Matthew 16:18. Don't settle for an imitation which has some Truths, instead join the authentic original which contains 100% the Truth. To be sure, it's filled with sinners, yet Jesus came to call the sinners, not the righteous Luke 5:32. And Jesus explained He's allowing the wheat to grow with the weeds and He will separate them out on Judgement Day Matthew 13:24-30. Yet, it's to His Church, the Catholic Church, which He gave the Keys of the Kingdom to St. Peter Matthew 16:19 and these Keys have been handed down from St. Peter to St. Anacletus to St. Linus and to each successive Pope down to today's Pope, Pope Francis, and this Catholic Church is the pillar & foundation of Truth 1 Timothy 3:15. It once was a tiny Mustard Seed, but now it's the largest of all the Churches just as predicted by Jesus Matthew 13:31-32. Come to Jesus fully, join His Church.
I love it that this Christian man can have a civil discussion with kids who respectively debate with him. I’m rarely encouraged by listening to young adults but these kids have my respect. I disagree with their religion but I can still appreciate their sincerity.
Let me say something about this when God say He is the only true God and he is the begining and the end He is reffering to this world because Jesus Christ created this world under the direction of Elohim the focus is in this World the scripture in John 1:1-3 it was reffering to this world and Juridiction. Therefore that was the focus to keep us to him. This world and the universe.
It's not just young adults. Civil discussion in general is in and of itself an extremely difficult thing, more so when you're talking about something that cuts to the deepest part of your psyche, or soul, and religious discussions and philosophical discussions tend to do that. Most people fill those discussion with awkward smiles and filler words and scattered logic, and pretend that it is civil. True civil discussion requires a serious confrontation for yourself to be ready and have your soul in the front line and ready for the attacks, and by chance that you're wrong, you have to make yourself ready to genuinely accept the right answer.
@@claudiaacosta1304 according to the Bible when was the church started and where is the church today and who does God say his church is or his bride which he divorced
I am a sixth generation pioneer Mormon who went on a mission and was a temple attending, garment wearing, tithing paying follower of Joseph Smith until I was 40 years old. It was so difficult to pull away. For a while I thought I’d found Jesus. But now I realize He found me. I didn’t deserve it. He did it. That is something I never understood as a Mormon. I was constantly struggling to feel “worthy”. Then one day I realized that no matter how I strive I could never be worthy. I don’t have to be worthy. Only he was worthy.
@@hereweare9096, the Jesus from a Jehovahs Witness is not the same as the Jesus found in the Christian Bible. They are not the same person. The Bible, New World translation has evidence of text being edited to scrap his deity away. Read John 1:1, the wording is the word was from GOD, not a GOD. Jesus was not Michael the Arch Angel.
@@JohnSmith_1 Proverbs 21:4 (NKJV): 4 A haughty look, a proud heart, And the plowing of the wicked are sin. Plowing is a good work because it feeds the family. Yet even the plowing of the wicked is sin.
I went from Catholicism to atheism, to witchcraft, to Christian. Thank you brother for your help and part. But mostly importantly thank you Jesus Christ
Same here, exactly. It's a shame that Roman Catholicism robs people of a fruitful and true relationship with Christ. With Catholicisms pagan practices, I think it's natural that we fell into studying the occult. God used my studies to ultimately blow my mind and glorify his name. When he began giving me discernment (after i pleaded), softening my heart, and revealing Christ to me the clarity I had is incomparable. I couldn't stop crying. Still do when the Holy Spirit moves me.
@@TeaNToastI did the same to I was asking God to show me the truth with an empty heart and dying spiritually and emotionally. He came through with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The truth has set me free!
I was raised Mormon, served a mission (in Dallas lol), did ordinance work in the temple, became Elders quorum president, learned about the Book of Abraham's origins, learned of all the other troublesome history, resigned my membership in the Mormon church, took a nearly-4-year journey through Atheism, dabbled in Satanism, met a girl who introduced me to the real Jesus, accepted Him on January 22, 2023 and was baptized about a year later. Every time I hear *Goodness of God* and the lyrics, "All my life you have been faithful" I tear up because God has been holding on to me the whole time, especially through my Mormonism. It seems impossible when I see the veil on my family, that they can't see Jesus for who He really is, but I know that God's got them and is waiting with open arms. Whoever is reading this, you're NEVER outside of God's loving reach. Praise Jesus 🙏
Once a Mormon, I was blessed to have a Christian come by and teach me about the true Jesus of the Bible. When I ask Jesus into my heart it felt like a ton of weight fell off my shoulders. Never felt that as a Mormon.
We members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints already know that God was God Is God Will be God Forever. We already know that Jesus Christ was conceived by and born to a virgin. We already know that no man comes to God except through Jesus Christ. We already know that Jesus Christ died on the cross for remission of our sins. We already know that on the third day Jesus Christ defeated death and arose from the tomb. We already know that we were told to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling. We already know that we were told to make light of no man's religion. We already know that there is the gift of the Holy Ghost and even speaking in tongues. We already know that Jesus Christ told us to receive baptism by full immersion. We already know that, even though we will witness, we will not tell any person they're going to hell because they don't follow the teachings of Mormon. As Christians, except for Joseph Smith, we all share the same prophets and like all other Christians we don't worship them. We don't worship Joseph Smith we simply believe he was a prophet. Joseph Smith was the founder of our church. Like it or not fact is regardless the religion it began with a founder. It seems the only difference between the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and other Christian religions is we don't go around saying my daddy's bigger than yours. If I seem a bit more aggressive than the average member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints it could be because I'm a convert. The slight bit of aggression you may be picking up on is simply the residue leftover from all the other more confrontational religions I was adversely influenced by before I became a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Be patient. God's not through with me yet.
I dont follow any denomination that was established by men! They can & are corrupted. I follow Christ's church he established when he walked the earth 🌎 and shared Himself/God thru His/God's word (Yahweh Yahsuah) that's the true real church. Christ said He is the foundation & cornerstone of the church, so we should follow the church/teachings of Christ when he taught it on earth not a church established by men yrs later , those denominations are based on those men's interpretations/ and or their own ego or believing they was a prophet instead of the word/christ teachings! That christ shared while on this earth!
@@shanethompson7878 YOUR BRAINWASHING IS PERFECT! THE PARANOIA AKA INVISBLE ENEMIES IS A MIRACLE!!!!! THE HEBREW MYTHS ARE REAL!!!!!!!!!!!! HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO PROOF OF YOUR POOP BUT YOU ARE SMITTEN!!!!!!!!!!!! IT MUST BE NICE TO SUCCUMB TO CHRISTIAN BOTTOM FEEDERS WHO NEED TO CONTINUE THIS POOP, CUPCAKE!!!!!!!!!!
@@shanethompson7878 Jeff is like the skillful Pharisees and persecuters of Christ when he walked among them... The PERSECUTORS reviled PERSECUTED and condemned Christ and they used the words of dead prophets to do so.... The picture remains the same today. Jeff is a self proclaimed prophet condemning Joseph Smith of being what he himself proclaims for and of himself.... I guarantee Jeff would have been on the side of the Pharisees declaring the words of Dead prophets to condemn Christ back in the day ... Interesting that Jeff condemns Joseph Smith as a fraudster and a liar. That Joseph is a liar. Made it all up and is a deceiver. All good For so persecuted they CHRIST and all the early Saints and His true prophets and apostles.... PS Why would Joseph endure a life of persecution hate and false accusations his entire life to then actually give up his life for something he knew to be a Lie???? Any man who is a genuine seeker of truth and does an unbiased study of his life, who would conclude Joseph to be a liar.... Is in the gall of bitterness and have neither faith hope nor charity.... Joseph was a prophet called of God. The Book of Mormon is the word of God as is the Bible. They both testify of each other and to the Divinity of Christ Simple
@@brysonsteele3289 That is kind, thank you. Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints believe that Christ is THE ONLY way to salvation. There is no other way than faith in Christ. We also believe that Christ said “If ye love Me, ye will keep My commandments.” We do not believe that keeping the commandments, baptism, service or temple worship will save us in any degree… We do those things as “love signs” to God that we love Him and choose Him. Thanks again for your concern. Thankful you love Christ too! ❤️☀️
Incredible conversation! I pray these young men turn to the true Christ. This isn’t about slight differences - this is about eternal life. “You who are trying to be justified by the law are alienated from Christ; you have fallen from grace.” Galatians 5:4 CSB
Slight differences, over the course of a long time, will cause you to miss your destination entirely. If a ship changes its heading even by 1 degree, it will be far removed from it's target destination.
@@rwd2213 I think what he was trying to say is that secondary issues will not send you to hell and that deviation from essential issues do. however if you think that non essential issues send you to hell you may be a pharisee
@@FALL3NW0RLD I am in agreement, that core issues are essential. Similarly, some people can focus so much on the secondary issues, that they get lost on the core issues. Climb out too far on a branch, you will fall to your ruin.
@@FALL3NW0RLD secondary issues like believing in a different god altogether? LDS' god has a father...Islam's god begat no sons...sounds like three different deities.
@@elijahthemessengermalachi3105 What? False teachers get burned the worst, be careful what you say. Your words are not biblical and you are twisting Gods Laws. Literally, marriage is between a man and woman as commanded by God and reaffirmed by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who is God in the flesh.
@@nute742 Personally I think all religious people are nuts , simply because few and I would guess only 2% have read the gospels most memorise passages. Having said that in balance according to the gospels Jesus is the epi centre of Christianity, no church according to Jesus is needed, no religion is needed, just live in the way of Christ . Being a bastard I can't do that ,but I understand those that try . Catholicism, Islam or any forms you care to name take you according to Jesus away from the divine "" No one goes to the father except through me "
@@rolandhawken6628 You are right (Jesus is the way). "However not all organized religion" is all bad all of the time(especially if its the one the Christ organized) Sure its full of some imperfections (mainly people, lol) But I guess he stuck us together for a reason too! (Having a "personal" relationship with Jesus Christ though is the most important).
@@nute742 I agree ,but and it is a big but all organized religions are bad all of the time most just create wealth ,the other half veer =off to some kind of hierarchy there in lies the problem it turns quickly into some kind of vehicle loses the teachings of Christ instantly it does that, to most religion is a crutch they have no understanding of the teachings of Jesus . He tells them time and time again what is required , and where the kingdom lies . If you need a church or a club you are going in the wrong direction
Sending prayers for these two young men! As an X Mormon myself, I promise you that God can reach even the most stubborn of hearts such as mine… God bless these boys!
@@elijahthemessengermalachi3105 I'm not sure if you're trolling or if you simply just haven't read through all of Matthew but this is a blatant misunderstanding of the text at least. In Matthew 19:8-11 we read that Jesus tells his apostles that divorce is only acceptable in cases of adultery. He apostles respond by saying that it is essentially better not to marry at all. Jesus replies with Matthew 19:12 which must be taken in context with the previous verses. They were not discussing homosexuality at all! They were discussing those who had the strength to not marry and stay celibate or those who were born without any sexual desire. If you can't be rich and a Christian, what would you say about Joseph of Arimathea? 1 Chronicles 29:12-16 states that all riches belong to God and that he bestows them upon people as he sees fit. He only asks that the Christian with riches recognizes this and acts as if he/she believes it through charity as well as tithing. Understand that I'm not a rich man by any means. I struggle to make ends meet and live month-to-month. I have a physical disability which makes this even more difficult but I understand something about the Christian message that seems to be going over your head. We are all rich with gifts, blessings, and privilege in some way or another. YOU are rich and privileged. It's easier for a camel to enter through the eye of a needle than a rich man enter into heaven Matthew 19:24. That includes you, my friend. You see, rather you make $20,000 a year or $2 million a year, the only way into heaven is to accept Jesus Christ by faith and allow his grace to purify you. I would encourage you to not cherry pick versus to suit the narrative you DESIRE to be true. The Bible must be read in context as a whole and it simply does not fit a woke narrative. The New Testament was written almost 2000 years before postmodernity and even modernity was conceptualized by the French intellectuals of the 1940s and 50s. You will have an extremely difficult time taking the Bible as a whole and making new age philosophy fit.
@@elijahthemessengermalachi3105 you are misled ,deceived or deceiving and deceived. Some of what you Saud about tithes was correct. Not all and the whole lblmnop thing is way off base.
You order to find truth you have to seek it and not just follow the status quo. I found jeff because i wanted to seek the truth which led me to him. Everything jeff talks about is straight from the bible itself. No personal agenda base driven nonsense, just straight truth.
I am headed towards Mormonism. I would submit that "less active" is the reason your eyes are opened by Jeff but haven't been by mormonsism. Perhaps if you put your money where your mouth is and listen to the 'jeffs' of the Mormon church your eyes will be opened to the truths of all eternity.
@@sandboxcreations9104 brother there is no need to get defensive over an argument that has not happened. God Bless 💯🙏 Jesus is King and Lord of all ! 💯
@@RhinoXpress the bible itself is simply not translated completely correctly. It's still super important because it teaches us so much about Jesus Christ and it testifies about him. The Holy Bible is still a book of scripture that we Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day saints, embrace however and read the Book of Mormon as it's companion. Like a mission ary companion to help testify of Jesus Christ.
I was a Mormon for 19 years and I was miserable. I knew full well I was, "saved by grace after all I could do" and I felt that weight. I read The Teachings Of The Presidents Of The Church, and I saw with my own eyes what many Mormons refuse to acknowledge. Their own scriptures and theology refutes them! They just don't want to believe it! I am free because Jesus paid for my sins in full 🙏 praise God ❤ My focus now is on building a relationship with God, not to be saved, but out of a grateful heart.
It is so painful to watch people having the truth told to them and they flat out reject it. It’s like at that Moment God is bringing them THE truth and they just slam that door closed.😞
@Hlord1109 The Mormons have no truth because they invented false doctrines out of nowhere. They twist the Scriptures to their own destruction: 2 Peter 3:15-18 (NKJV) 15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation-as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. 17 You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; 18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen.
I’ve been there man! They are SOOOOOO close yet so far. You can almost see them grasp it, almost see it click!. I come from a family of 11 children, all raised to believe the teachings of the FLDS and LDS church. 9 of us are born again Christians and my parents are so very close to letting go of the perverted gospel of Mormonism. They came to church with us on Sunday to see my youngest brother get baptized. And they thoroughly enjoyed it.
@@GwPoKo read the verse right before that buddy. He was declared righteous by his faith. A dead faith is a faith without works. Works are a sign of a living faith. Doesn’t mean that the works save. Only the blood of Christ saves
@@GwPoKowe are saved by grace through faith as a GIFT of God. If we had to do something other than believe then it isn’t a gift. However works are sign of living faith because when we have faith the Holy Spirit empowers us to goodness and righteousness. But again, it’s reiterated time and again that it is Jesus that saves us through faith in him and the sacrifice he performed for us as a gift of God.
Excellent! I have never been LDS, but have worked with them since 1981. In 1981 I allowed 2 young LDS missionaries to present the lessons to me for 6 weeks. During this time I went to church with them and heard many members share their testimony. They were so disappointed when I didn’t gain a testimony of Joseph Smith and the LDS church. They asked me to share my testimony at the end of the 6 weeks. I shared my testimony of accepting Christ alone for salvation, by GRACE alone. I said that I had quietly, patiently listened to everything they wanted me to know and asked if they would now give me equal time to share what I believe. They didn’t. They never had any contact with me again. I admire these young LDS men for being willing to engage and listen to your points.
@@livehealthyfinishstrong LDS here, we do believe in "grace alone" in the sense that only through the grace of Jesus Christ can we be saved. The hangup is on ordinances, which we believe have been divinely inspired but are not required to "get into heaven." Paul talked about 3 levels of heaven, and the highest requires these ordinances. That is modern revelation that I can testify is true
@baydenator9818 Grace alone? 2 Nephi 25:23 after all we can do Moroni 10:32 We must deny ourselves of all ungodliness, then God's grace is sufficient Have you done all that you can do? Have you denied yourself of all ungodliness? Have you kept the commandments perfectly? Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect. In order to be justified before a holy God, we need to be perfect. We need the righteousness of God. ***** 'Modern revelation' contradicts God. Paul never mentioned levels of heaven. That would contradict what Jesus taught. Jesus Christ said that there was heaven or hell. Even the Book of Mormon teaches heaven or hell. There is a unique glory/ beauty of things that God has created in the heavens. The sun, moon, and stars. There is a unique glory/ beauty of things created on the earth. So also is the resurrection. Everyone will be resurrected and face God. Every will receive an incorruptible body that will last forever in either heaven or hell. The words heaven, levels, degrees, three, and kingdoms are not in the passage. The made-up word 'telestial' is not there either. Revelation 21 and 22 tell us what heaven will be like. Believers will be all together on the new earth and new heaven serving God and Christ. No one will be married. Women will not be sharing their husbands with other women for all eternity. The 'other women' will not be separated from their families so they can serve as part of your harem of women on your own planet. God doesn't damn people who deny the eternal principle of polygamy. (D&C 132) Heaven is a world of love. ❤️ God loves everyone, including women.
This Pastor is solidly based in his scripture. He is blessed with biblical wisdom. I get blessed by listening to him tell people the truth about scripture.
Not in scripture but in the interpretación that others set for him before hand. I have had debates with alot of them and guess what its simple wrong all scriptures that he cited can be debates and clarified or rebuked.
@@teepsfamMost all religions are based on some truths (or philosophies) that are good (for the most part). Many of the details though may differ between them (or even sometimes contradict). In addition all churches are run by imperfect people too (even when Jesus himself) set up his church on earth (as his apostles were not perfect either)But I guess all he has is people to work with.
I get jealous (in a good way) of how Jeff is able to just whip out scripture (Books & Versus) to help defend the faith. Something I need to be working on. Way to go Jeff, pumped to see God say to you one day, "My good and faithful servant".
Gotta meditate on the word daily, Think about how people can sing a whole song because they're constantly playing it. The same applies when reading the repeating the word in your head.
It take more than Five minutes to undo a Life of indoctrination! I was third generation Mormon. When i Finally Tested my beliefs against what Was Actually in the bible, the Lird took the scales from my eyes! He also took my pride! I no longer get offended! Or take it personally! It's what God Says! Not me! Praise Jesus of the Bible, not Religion or Denomination!❤
@@stephaniewilliamson4611 yes. But not as God inspired it, they believe it as interpreted by Joseph Smith and spend a lot more time in the Book of Mormon than in the Bible. Also, there are many inconsistencies between the two books, and they differ to the heresies of Smith and not the Bible.
@@stephaniewilliamson4611 They don't believe all of it. did you watch the video? The Bible is good enough for sound teaching. Book of Mormon is not needed to learn the Gospel.
My heart. I was 34 years in mormonism, then 4 years new age consciousness ascension stuff. The bridge from mormonism to new age is a plan from the enemy. I pray so much for the mormons as they are my entire community and family in so utah. The peace of salvation because of Christ alone without my effort, wow. That is the peace missing in the mormons.
Similar testimony, but no Mormonism. the New Age must be exposed for what it is, because while Africa and Asia become more aquatinted with God, our western world will increasingly follow the lie of witchcraft. Tik Tok brings millions of views to this stuff and it’s going to become worse. My heart also goes out to those still in the lie, but I know God can reach them if they repent.
@@elijahthemessengermalachi3105 the Bible calls homosexual and effeminate behavior an abomination in the Old Testament and it’s reiterated it in the new. Promoting LGBT under the gospel is about as bad as it gets.
and I went from Hindu to Mormon (aka Christian). Why isn't Mormon seen as Christian? we believe that revelation and the gospel is never ending. When I joined the Church, you feel and understand the true power of the Christ and our Heavenly Father. Feel free to respond, I am INSANELY curious as to why you left?
I'm a Christ follower. Watching this in preparation for dinner/conversation with some friendly Mormons who came to our door. If anyone scrolling through these comments is also a Christian, my wife and I would love for you to lift us/them up in your prayers that they would get to encounter the way, the truth and the life as a result of this meeting 🤙🏼
I’m a maintenance man at an apartment complex and the Mormons have started to come to knock on the doors of the elderly around here. And I’m doing the same brother!! Let’s pray for one another! The Word of God never ever ever returns void!
I got goosebumps at 24 minutes when he said, if I'm wrong, what can I do? I love that they are actually listening to what he is saying. This video is a year old, I wonder what the outcome was from this.
God bless this pastor, I feel as though Jesus is speaking through him - you can see the change in these boys the more he speaks...I pray they find the right path.
An actual LDS scholar gave a solid rebuttal to one of Durbin’s video. If interested do a RU-vid search: Jeff Durbin gets destroyed by facts and Logic. I would help with a link but it won’t let me. Good luck.
Except it was all subjective and within the context of a faith among thousands which separated from the One, True Church founded by Christ. Other than that... Great apologetics.. Lol Just too bad they do not follow their own logic to the true worship within the Church(not churches) founded by Jesus and within which is found the true worship of the Cross from Calvary till now and through all the ages. "Do this in memory of Me!"
@@brentryan2047 The only one historically founded by Jesus Christ upon the Apostles and continued through the ages until now. The Church which has produced more Saints and has done more for the world, culture, science, good morality than any other. Home of the great doctors and early fathers of the Church. The Church which decided which books were considered inspired and to be included in the bible. I could name it but I won't. You can recognize it by it's marks. One, Universal, Holy and Apostolic. ONE- Singular and not many, undivided, "Upon this Rock I will build My Church" not churches. One as God is One. One as the the truth is one and not many. UNIVERSAL- From east to west and north to south. 4 corners of the world. Universal geographically, Universal culturally, Universal racially, Universal for people of all times and places. HOLY- First because its founder and head is holy, Jesus Christ. Second because it has the power and capacity to produce fruits of true Holiness in its members. It is the sacrament and ark of salvation for all people. Holy does not mean every individual is holy but because Jesus is Holy and His Church through the sacraments has the aim of making those disposed Holy and perfect as Our Heavenly Father is perfect and Holy. APOSTOLIC- Founded on the apostles and continued unbroken line of Apostolic succession upon the Authority of Jesus Christ. Infallible and preserver of true doctrine and revelation. This Church is not a priestless Christianity. It has ordaining succession which can be traced back to each Apostle. This Church is 3 in 1. The Church triumphant in heaven, the Church Militant on earth and the Church suffering in purgatory for those being purified before entering the Holy of Holies and beautific vision. Seek and you will find, ask and it will be given, knock and the door shall be opened to you.
@@brentryan2047I was wondering the same. I’m assuming either Orthodox or Catholic given his reference to the one true church but yeah that’s a great question. We’ll stay tuned
"15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:" 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. "1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." Galatians 1:6-9.
Laser focus from all 3 of you guys. Impressive. The listening, recall and respect was awesome to watch. The world would be fine if every human conducted themselves like this when we disagree. 💙
Very mature, measured young men, willing to listen intently, even in disagreement! Very fefreshing! May God bless them with the love of truth and full reconciliation!
Jeff is impressive to me. He mastered marital arts, now he's mastered street witnessing. Thanks for posting good examples on how to share biblical truth with Mormons in a respectful, loving way
I was raised Mormon saved out of it at 22-until I was 21 I was not confronted about my faith and had no thought of it being incorrect, just thought we knew more than other religions- I’m forever grateful for someone that took an interest in me and challenged my beliefs to the point that I cried out to God saying “God, I believe I’m going to be Mormon for the rest of my life, it’s the only thing I know and I think it is true-but if it’s not true I really want to know the truth!” And within the week I was invited to a presentation of the gospel and the Holy Spirit helped me see the truth and I accepted Christ that night!🎉 God is good and faithful to His word! If you seek Him you will find Him, if you seek with all your ❤️
Did you stop to think the adversary hates the church so he created lies about it ? The bible is a selection of books by the Catholic church further reduced by the Protestants and oldest manuscripts are 200+ years after jesus death im not sure if you trust catholics or if you know what the game of telephone is but 200+ years is laughable to claim infallibility
@@Nick-Kcin If words have any meaning, Him saying “accepting Christ” means and obviously meant, that Christ is Lord and trust/ belief was placed in Christ alone for eternal salvation which also means “faith.”
I'm not even Mormon. I am a falling Christian in this video convicted me to my very soul I'm in tears of repentance right now and I don't even know what to do
John said that he wrote his letter so that we would not sin...but if we did sin, we have an Advocate, Jesus Christ. John said if we confess our sins to Jesus that Jesus is faithful and will cleanse us of *ALL* unrighteousness. It's just like Jesus told the woman caught in adultery, go and sin no more. We are to stop sinning and have been given the help to overcome sin through His Spirit...but I don't know anyone personally who has stopped sinning...I battle it every day. I do know what John said and take comfort in his words (confess your sin and Jesus is *faithful* to cleanse us of *all* unrighteousness). We must repent and confess our sins from here until the end of our lives in order to stay in fellowship with Him. We must endure till the end. As long as you are turning from sin to God (obedience) and trust in Jesus' atoning sacrifice, that makes us right with God, you/we are saved. We can know we are in Him by searching ourselves to see that we are in the faith (making sure there is no sin, repenting, asking forgiveness, loving others). Revelation defines the saints as those who: keep the commandments of God AND hold to the testimony of Jesus. Those are the two identifying marks of a saint given throughout the Bible. God bless you and maranatha.
God rejoices over even one person who becomes saved as He says in the gospels. So know that His love is beyond our type of love...He is full of mercy and patience for a heart that repents and is convicted. Go to Him in His Word and He will meet you and lead you.
@@hero-of-the-universe247 religions not Cults cuz Colts still are not Advanced enough to even know how to be sincerely wrong or how to be sincere truly they just use it as a dog word to try to pull people into their cult
This was probably the best conversation I’ve ever seen Jeff do with Mormons. I hope they thought about it and talked about it more after they left. I love that they took a picture with him afterwards.
Good job dude. I can't imagine trying to have those discussions with a Mormon, actually two Mormons. Love that neither of you got upset and kept it civil.
I agree it was definitely very respectful. I would say that the pastor here has much to do with that because of his approach. He doesn't put people in a defensive position and feels very loving and relatable. I think that is so important when giving a message. He's also very knowledgeable so his confidence level leads to trust.
@@mikelobao God lives. The Bible is the word of God. Christ was crucified was resurrected. Gives salvation from death and hell to All mankind. Even those who don't believe. He will return. Soon.
It's all made up B.S. it's just funny to watch people getting petty and nit picking each literal thing from a book written by a bunch of filthy goat rapers. If god is unchanging then why would he destroy Sodom and Gamora and not San Francisco, or any of these other places that are FILLED with disgusting homosexuals 🤔 I'm positive that there are tons more homosexuals now than there were back then. So why isn't he destroying them now? People would speak ill of god and be smitten, made dumb, struck dead... now magically nothing. It's America, believe in whatever you want but just know it's retarded. The bible has incest and murder all through out it, concubines (whores) but they play it all off as cool... 😂
I’m not an LDS but I find myself struggling to understand faith with out works and how I am not earning my salvation. You just explained that concept so well for me 🔥
I would reading 1 Corinthians 15. The church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints does not each "earning" your salvation but that everyone receives a degree of glory dependent on the degree of grace you receive. It is also noteworthy that three degrees of glory was taught in early Christianity. Ireneaus, papaias, origen, etc with the idea of eternal hell becoming mainstream in the fifth century AD. The thing most evangelicals ignore is history and the development of theology in early Christianity, as well as the problem of evil and suffering with the traditional interpretation. There are so many holes in the standard interpretation. I would say history is pretty solid evidence for a great apostasy.
God sent jesus to PAY for the holy spirit... through the holy spirit we are saved and with the holy spirit we are able to fight the desires of the flesh... ultimately the reason for why God does anything is that he wants to show his power he wants to bless our lives but he cant do that because we are living in sin he is 3 times saint and that sanctity will consume the sinner or bless the sanctifie... God can only touch us if we are living a sanctified life and with the Holy spirit we are able to live a sanctified life... we are called into sanctification to glorify God not to earn our salvation the salvation is ours the moment you invite Jesus Christ/ the holy spirit into your heart
@rachaelpate2085 Believing and doing are two sides of the same coin. You can't truly have one without the other. If you say you believe but dont live a Christ like life, you are professing a lie. But at the same time, doing as Christ taught will not "earn" you salvation. It is a gift. However, it is a gift given only to those who believe - not a professed and shallow belief , but one that leads a person to live a life full of good works. The scriptures teach that after the resurrection everyone will be brought before God to be judged. And what will they be judged on? The way they lived their life. Their works will prove their faith. Thats why in James he says show me your faith without works, and I will show you my faith through my works. Good works naturally follow those that believe. People who deeply believe seek intensely to follow Christ. Those whi dont understanding this may try to accuse ithers of trying to earn they way to heaven. But that is sooo far from the truth. They are simply emulating Christ. His life was full of good works. And he invited us to do the same.
I agree about the devil being tricky. However, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints worships the right Christ. I’d like to think that hopefully all Christians do.
@joeypavlik3440 yes that’s right and that’s what’s the church teaches. Paul preached the same gospel that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints preached. Same Gospel, Same Jesus.
the fact that they came to speak about Christ, shows that they feel the tug in their heart. I am praying for these young men, bring them home Father in Jesus name! Amen!
They can be swayed. I wss LDS once, and it took many months for me to get to a point where I could accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior. It didnt happen all at once. I was not able or willing to comprehend what was being told at first, and it took many months to open up to the true gospel.
@@aspectra Yes. But remember that only God can open blinded eyes. All we can do is share the information of the Gospel. The new birth happens by sovereign grace, not free will.
@@LiveLogic13 as the pastor said many times in the video, the issue is which Christ do they believe? The three of them agreed that if they spoke to members of a non Christian religion that revered Jesus, that that was not the same Christ .
Jut listening to this pastor is healing my mind from all the condemnation that I received when I believed in the mormon faith. As he talked I could feel the spirit of the lord tell me that my anger over what the mormon faith did to me can be put aside and I can put my anger away and feel the spirit as it is intended to make me feel. amen.
@@parkerbarduhn9293 I found out during ages 6 to 9 that my best friend was sexually molesting' my daughter and the church came to this mans aid. It was when she was 14 she told me. He got off free. THe church had paid to defend him on 2 other occurrences also earlier.
This guys work all their life and have been looking forward to one day be a God, some one comes and tells them is not true and they will always be human that must be painful to their heart, the crazy thing is how come this Mormons don't see that Satan became Satan for the very same reason of wanting to be god.
His preaching low key fed my soul. Praying for the Mormon men who talked with this evangelist of Christ. Thank you Lord Jesus for doing ALL the work. None of it is from our own hands. We are so greatful for you Lord. You deserve it all. To him are all things and from him are all things. You deserve the glory!
I just wanna say in my beginning after being reborn and saved the lord lead me to pastor Jeff's video's and ministry when i knew literally nothing about the Bible or Jesus or what was happening in my life but God was leading me and opening and bringing me along. I think people think that when someone say or claims to be Christian that's it's by a human decision and choice to follow Christianity. But in all reality it's done and made by God in saving a person that makes a person Christian ultimately,genuinely and authentically and being hidden in Christ. Another point i will say too. Is that it's not you're pastor or any pastor that is the authority neither by how you come to know God or that is gonna save anyone or make anyone holy. If you're are truly saved and you're spiritually discerning by the authority of God you're suppose to be affirming what any person or pastor is proclaiming about God and his word not just choosing to believe anyone just because their a a good person or even a pastor. You yourself by the power of the holy spirit alone is sufficient to know truth and who is from God truly. Not opinion or what you think or even feel. Christ alone!
The Bible says God prefers for people to be in LGBT relationships. Anyone that teaches the LIE of monetary tithing, sells anything using the gospel, or teaches that same-sex marriage is a sin CHOOSES to die with the wicked. Luke 10:7 states the only wages for ministering are eating and drinking whatever you are given. Also, know that rich people will all die. You can't be a Christian, sit on all kinds of money, watch your fellow brothers and sisters starve, suffer, or be homeless, choose to do nothing about it, and think that it's ok. Those are all wolves. Mathew 19:12 Eunuchs that are born that way are transgender. Eunuchs made that way by others were abused in some way and something inside of them blocks off a certain type of body but it doesn't happen to everyone that is abused. Those that choose to live like Eunuchs FOR THE SAKE OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN are bisexual people that choose partners of the same sex-characteristics but opposite in regards to gender. Notice, it states God PREFERS for people to be in LGBT relationships. Leviticus, Corinthians, and Timothy were translated wrong by Billy Graham. Those verses are actually referring to pedophilia. Romans 1:27 All of the men were male in regards to gender, all of the women were female in gender. It is not referring to Eunuchs (where one partner is transgender). Also, it had nothing to do with marriage of any kind. They were trying to procreate during orgies so God did it on purpose. Anyone that continues to teach same sex marriage is a sin when the Bible says God prefers for people to be in LGBT relationships will also die by their own choice. Sodom and Gem. was about rape, nothing to do with marriage of any kind. God made them male and female, determined by gender, located in the brain. In order to be a church building, the place must house people inside of it. Otherwise it is just another private money-making business part of Babylon that furthers satan's agenda. Stay out of the fake churches. I am Elijah of Malachi 4:5-6 and Acts 3:22-23 says it will come to pass that anyone that fails to listen to me will be UTTERLY destroyed from among the people. Again, everyone has a choice. And anyone that deletes my messages CHOOSES to reject Jesus Christ Himself and that means they also CHOOSE to die with the wicked. I am Elijah so that means any discrepancies in the holy books are ultimately decided by me. I am also to usher in the Messiah! Be ready: Jesus is coming back! WORLD PEACE IS COMING!! By the way, anything based on gender norms no longer applies. In fact, the last will be first and the first will be last. It's women that will be ruling the kingdom of heaven. And rapture is not what most people think. Its when God's true people shine with the glory of God and are miraculously healed. Read Malachi 4:2-4 and the verses surrounding it...........Jesus comes back to rule earth and being taken is not good! Malachi 2 proves Malachi 3:8-11 is talking to the thieving church leaders. Every single major church and fake preacher on television knew since Augst of 2020 if they brought the money back they were never supposed to take for ministering then God would end Covid but they love money so much they intentionally chose to kill everyone instead of repenting. Seriously, do you really comprehend that? The church leaders LOVE MONEY SO MUCH that they INTENTIONALLY CHOSE TO KILL PEOPLE instead of repenting. Every time they collect money for ministering they know they are killing people with Covid and they still do it! Could you imagine for almost 2 years walking into your "church" on Sunday and knowing every single time you asked people to take that piece of paper in the back of the pew and pay tithes you knew more people would die from Covid and you did it anyhow? 😭😭😭😭 And you knew monetary tithing was a lie on top of it! So you also wilfully committed fraud. That is SICK. All these people need prison time for murder and fraud. WW3 will come if the church fakes dont repent and anyone working for a church will be raped, tortured, and slaughtered. At some point, fireballs will hit all unrepentant wicked people.
Man it’s crazy to see how someone who claims to believe in Christ would not believe His word but other books. And add so much to what the Holy Scripture says clearly. We should never change Gods Holy Word to fit our thoughts and beliefs but let HIS Word change our thoughts and beliefs. I hope they get saved 🙏🏽
The modern Bible was assembled from existing chapters and scrolls by a Council of Bishops at Nicea who were assigned to the task by Emperor Constantine, around 300 A.D. The Mormons and their slightly newer scrolls are less than two millenia off being included, a finger snap compared to the infinite. In the grand scheme, there's not much difference--love God and don't be a goober.
@John Andy he handled the homeless person well in my opinion. He listened to him, but the conversation wasn't going anywhere so he made the move to shift it back to the other two men.
@John Andy The homeless people are able to hear his message and not all homelessness is worth giving attention. The homeless people in America have it better than that of the working class in this country.
Even crazier to see the one of the two who does believe in the Biblical Christ protest Christ’s Bride, the Pillar of Truth, rejecting the exclusive and infallible authority of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church founded on Peter and alive today to Interpret the Scriptures that God Breathed through that Church - which Word can never be used against Her - as Christ is always with his Bride to defend her. Come home! PS to the Mormon: the Keys were never taken! You don’t need to find someone more interesting than the circular argument, question-begging, non-biblical sola Scriptura crowd - but Jeff’s right - you can’t become a god - but the real Christ can and will infuse you with Grace - he isn’t afraid to say you’re holy and actually make it so. God doesn’t need to trick Himself to love you. He does love you, and he wants you to be made holy to glorify Himself by participating in the Life of the Trinity - God isn’t as insecure as my separated brethren have been deceived to believe!
Jeff hits it right in in the beginning of the conversion letting these young men know they are looking at the Gospel through the lens of Joseph Smith. Until they can let go and challenge the teachings of Joe Smith they will still be prisoners.
@@jacobsamuelson3181 How anyone can be LDS after investigating BOA fraud is beyond comprehension. Curious, how did you square no black clergy in the church? Some serious mental gymnastics. I really the tale of JS going to his death willingly…..well you know, after he shot a few people. Remember when he had his own currency. Reminds of flat earthers.
Love this so much, as a Latter Day Saint (Mormon) going through a nuanced faith transition, and looking to learn, consider, and pray. This conversation more than any other Ive seen has helped. People calmly explaining beliefs and discussing them ❤❤❤❤
@@mrlds3202 The LDS Church fails to teach the Bible's greatest promises. Namely that Christ's righteousness becomes imputed (attributed) to any one who places their full faith in Jesus Christ (Romans 4:22-25). Just as Abraham's faith was accounted to him for righteousness, so it is the case with anyone who places their faith in Christ. Faith in Christ is what justifies us fully and makes us right before God, not religious works (Ephesians 2:8-9) or the law (Galatians 2:16). Do you want to be made right before God? Trust in him alone, not a religious institution, not in works or ordinances, but in him alone. After all Christ proclaimed "It is finished!" before he died on the cross...our debt had been paid, he bore our sins on the cross not in Gethsemane (1st Peter 2:24). Any Christ that requires additional means to heaven is a false one that God warns about in Galatians 1. Trust in the authority of God's word the Bible, not in man. God bless.
Pastor Jeff, I am so glad you are out there. Thank you for what you do. I really think that you have a lot on your plate and I pray that God will keep you and yours safe, healthy and to be able to continue the mission on are on. God Bless.
Oh my gosh, this is one of the most powerful testimonies of a Christian to LDS returned missionaries. I pray that their eyes and hearts will be opened to the truth of the Biblical gospel. I was in their shoes once and studied my way out of the church and into a saving relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ
I have but one candle of life to burn, and I would rather burn it out in a land filled with darkness than in a land flooded with light ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tLPSsepMUXI.html
The problem I have with the "Biblical gospel" is that it's a recent invention not actually something that existed in the 1st century. The Bible if you are referring to 66 books only didn't exist till recently. The scriptures used by the early Christians were the Greek Septigate as opposed to the Hebrew scriptures and the Greek Septigate held more books from the old Testament than our current Bibles do. Also, book of enoch and assumption of Moses are mentioned by St Jude. Apart from this, the earliest codexes from which our Bible evolved contain other writings besides those in our current New Testament
The Mormon guy comes across all confident at the beginning. But then completely just destroys his own stance when he says. Because of the experiences I’ve had. He judges by his feelings. Not by Gods word
He judges by the Spirit which is in Him. Something every Christian should know they have. Your spirit is a gift from God, don't ever discredit this Christ sent messenger.
@@jacobsamuelson3181 yeah the spirit of Satan not the will of God not the Holy Spirit yeah we were can tell he doesn't have a Spirit by Spirit of Darkness that blinds him and makes him feel comfortable and wrong places but then when he gets challenged on it he can't fight back and he has to step back or side step or make up excuses or derail even though the facts are straightforward to any child can understand and any person who's been in this cult for years knows that mormonism is a satanic fraud. The best question yourself right now and check the evil that what you're in because it's evil and I've studied your cult for over 2 years now and I've seen in fact over 3 years now and I can see how evil it truly is how much Darkness I've learned more about your group than you have within 20 years of your life I've learned this within Less Than 3 years
@@jacobsamuelson3181 and by the way true Christians and such don't mission for a cult fraud for 2 years or less or even whatever the mission all their life that's something that the other cult the JW's of gotten over you Mormons is they actually know how to actually preach or proselytize in this correct form I don't agree with them and I expose them just like expose your cult equally as much as a satanists you are and how evil and racist and ignorant wrong blind and lost you are but at least they get the better form
@@langleybeliever7789 Stop believing lies get your facts here first then we will talk Watch parts 1,2 and 3. We are required to repent, exercise faith, be obedient and serve others. those are all works. However the Grace of Jesus Christ is essential and without that grace would would not be able to return to our Father in Heaven ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ezVvp5CxQvM.html
@@langleybeliever7789 Faith without works is dead. Is also in the bible. But don't tell evangelicals/born-agains that though ;-) They love telling themselves they are saved lol
The best one yet for me. To the two mormon guys, you were absolutely awesome. Thank you for your maturity and willingness to listen, discuss and learn. I grew up mormon, somewhat, along with my two younger brothers. He is ABSOLUTELY correct, mormon teaches, and makes you feel like you are not good enough/worthy of Gods grace. Only if you live a perfect life, which is obviously impossible. It has affected my brothers in such a way that they dont know or love Jesus. Thankfully i found christianity i have slowly tried to bridge that gap for them. I pray that one day my brothers will know and love God the way i do.
Everything was made and given to you guy's perfect on earth so yes it was expected.And yes people should have looked at life and want it perfect.You guy's just want to try get out that you all lived Sodom and Gomorrah.
I pray for these young men. I was Mormon for 40 years being born into it. I’m so appreciative that God has opened my eyes and my heart. The Bible and His words saved me and for the first time in my life I now know Him.
@@jacobsamuelson3181 I was 48 years TBM..it was JW's at my door who challenged me on my belief regarding Adam and Eve in the garden, as they gasped when I stated their choice was right and needful for progression. They pulled scripture from Genesis, and after they left my porch I pulled out my "scriptures" and read the whole of the chapter and realized there was zero scripture to support what I'd been taught in church h a d at the temple. That opened a floodgate of questions for me, and a lot more seeking scripture to back things up. After several month, I made a clean and painful break from a lifetime of belief and culture, this being over a decade ago, and do not look back as my prayers for coming to know TRUTH has led to much peace and understanding.
@@gdhhayes2129 Ok so you didnt ever read Genesis chapter 3 for 40 years as a LDS? I see where your problem was. There is plenty of scripture to back up Adam's decision. Adam fell that men might be, men are that they might have joy. Mosiah 2:17. You probably didnt consider it scripture as well because it's not in the Bible that you didnt ever read. But did you consider this verse in conjunction with other verses in the Bible. Proverbs 16:4. Romans 8:28. 1st Corinthians 15:22. When you understand that the fruit Adam took was the knowledge of good and evil as written in the Bible. We know that this knowledge was absolutely essential for man to learn to love God. 2 nephi 2. Opposition in all things. We could not know good if we were not subject to evil. Is there a scripture to support you shouldnt take Meth in the Bible? No. So just because there is no scriptural support in the Bible you're supposed to just abandon logic and take meth? No. Your JW friends should have taught you to start reading the Bible that you haven't done but not leave the Church of Jesus Christ because you dont understand scripture or revelation. I have been in the church for about 30 years and I can tell you I have gotten passed Genesis 3 several times and the only context that makes sense is what supports Gods Fathership for His Children. He is all knowing all powerful and all loving. This is why I know Adam fell that men might be and men are that they might have joy.
I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS, and this is my first time seeing your channel. I also subscribed because it’s refreshing to see a conversation about God that comes from a place of love. I agree with you that Jesus has always been. Christ the man Jesus born as a man so that birth, death, and resurrection can offer everlasting life with God. And yes, when Paul said there are many gods, he meant that some serve false idols. That’s why our Heavenly Father said thou shalt have no other gods (idols) before ME.
@@mr400meter that we need works to be saved. Always claiming that grace is the way and then wondering if another is already saved. Saved how? By doing something which if not done leaves you in the “not” saved category. It is hypocritical to tell another that works don’t save a man and then profess a condition or work that must be done. The hypocrisy that if a person confesses Christ they are then saved and need not do anything further or anything that they do after their work of professing Jesus doesn’t matter- they are forever “saved” - whatever that means - He claims that unless a man enters the waters of baptism he will not see the kingdom of heaven. He claims that we must give our all not some one minute requirement but a life full of devotion. Why would Jesus go to all the trouble of giving all of his parables and teachings if all he needs to do is say: “Hey, dude, just confess your belief in me one time and stop all this commandment garbage - then you will be “saved” whatever that means or it means anyone who doesn’t do the one minute belief thing goes straight to Hell.” “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” John 17:3 KJV bible.com/bible/1/jhn.17.3.KJV
Paul said in Romans 5: “Therefore having been justified by FAITH, we have PEACE with God and ACCESS by GRACE in which we STAND. 3 Points -Peace with God (Salvation) -ACCESS to the Father (thru Christ) -Standing in Grace (I can’t be lost) Now that’s beautiful!!! ✝️
As an active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saint, I will say this man speaks truth. And he will reap what he sows. He has a strong testimony in the Son. And he will have eternal salvation. Remember, salvation is an individual concern.
I'm in Southern Utah, I'd love to come for a night like this. I'm 34 years in the mormon church the 4 years new age, then born again, praise God, in 2021. I believe God let me learn and see both of those worlds, mormon, and new age, to be able to teach to those people. Can I email you?
@@elijahthemessengermalachi3105 “Leviticus, Corinthians, and Timothy were translated wrong by Billy Graham.” You gave yourself away quickly Thanks for the chuckle. 🤣 May we all live in accordance with 1 Peter 2:24 and Philippians 1:6.
I’m an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I love conversation about the Lord and wish the best on these three gentlemen. I wish there was more kind conversations, and cordial disagreement like this.
I agree, it’s so nice to listen to civil dialogue among people who disagree. I wish there were more conversations like this instead of heavily edited theoretical arguments from one person.
Joseph Smith- seer stone "money digger" and other people's wife luster: 1. He was not considered to be trustworthy by the people of his day. 2. He taught in a version of God different from the Bible. 3. He produced prophecies that didn’t come to pass. 4. He made a mockery of marriage and was not faithful to his wife Emma. 5. He did not know how to translate foreign languages. 6. He said he received a revelation on the Word of Wisdom but didn’t keep it himself. 7. He created a temple system that was in no way similar to the biblical temple. 8. He added in prophecies about himself in the book of Genesis. 9. He said he saw God the Father and Jesus with his own eyes. 10. He was involved with folk magic.
I was loving it too, but as it progressed the big guy started digging his heels in - you could see him with those folded arms, a sign of resistance, and at the end he shook his head to say NO WAY! Well, practically. Pride is always gonna kick in. And who knows what devils are flying around his mind to keep him captive? I pray that God will deliver him.
I applaud Pastor Jeff and Apologia church for their efforts in reaching the lds. I was there once myself, and I don't think it would have had to take 7 years to come out of the lds church if I would have had teaching like Pastor Jeff offers. In addition, I see that Apologia church is offering some Great Courses for future growth! Thank you church!
One of the best conversations I've ever heard 👂. I even saw Satan show up and try to distract at the precise moment the question was asked what to do about his situation immediately followed by the taller gentleman trying to go down yet another Joseph Smith rabbit hole. This is when those around need to be proactive in claiming authority over those spirits and casting them away from Gods messenger. What a powerful message. Satan will do anything to interrupt it from being proclaimed. Keep loving Jeff. You're on point brother.
Exactly. that is what happened before joseph prayed (and had his first vision) The devil tried to interrupt him (to try and stop what he was to learn, see and experience).
Wonderful job sir. I was born in Provo and raised LDS , I became a Christian in 1983 thanks to Dr Walter Martin books. It was a very difficult transition
I think alot has to do with our pride. Pride is the foundation of every sin. We have to admit that we have been wrong. Wrong theology, wrong living etc.
Jeff, this is one of your finest displays of Love for your fellow man I have ever witnessed. As an EX-mormon, I am so grateful that you are a man of God sharing the Truth to the Mormon's who have been falsely indoctrinated. Your moral conviction and integrity is so inspiring and soothing to me. I long for a day where I am as educated about the Word of God as you and can inspire respectful and intelligent conversation with those who are offtrack from the teachings of Jesus Christ. You are on my bucketlist as someone I would love to meet and hug as a brother. Keep fighting the good fight Jeff !!!
What an amazing conversation! I just happened to come across this video while searching Christian musicians. I thought I would give it a quick watch; well, I was pulled right into watching it in it's entirety. I was so impressed with how Jeff responded with gentle, direct, and thought provoking answers and questions to these LDS missionaries. I will definitely be checking out more of these videos. I am just in awe of your presentation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
@@nathangarn6918 They need to believe in the Bible and the Bible alone which is the word of God. They need to believe that Jesus is God and His blood alone can save us and give us Eternal life. They need to believe that there is only one God and that they can't become a god. We can only be saved by the blood of Jesus. Only God's blood can save us. That's why the enemy puts lies in people's minds to believe that Jesus isn't God because once we believe that Jesus is God, we have the victory over Satan by his blood. Jesus said in scripture that if He dont believe that He is the Son of God we will die in our sins. Only God's blood alone has the power to cleanse our sins and draw us back to our Creator.
@emilyjoanna6269 I find it interesting that you didn't bring up once that we need to follow Christ's example and strive to live like Him. This is what these young men are taught as members of Christ's church. This focus on keeping His commandments has led people of the LDS church to be one of the most successful and happy groups worldwide. The specific points of doctrine you argued have either no scriptural backing or were misinterpretations of men about Christ's gospel well after he died. I'd invite you to learn more about Him through His church and another testament of him: The Book of Mormon.
