Mormon Tells Durbin to Repent 

In heaven am I going to see God sitting on the throne or am I going to see God and Jesus sitting on the throne?

Two or more independent witnesses are needed to testify of truth. This means God and Jesus are separate.

@@keithp8357 NO MAN has seen the Father at any time...and Jesus said "if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father" so you will see Jesus, but seeing Jesus is seeing Jesus and the Father. The Holy Spirit dwells IN US and will represent us at the judgement seat. You will see Jesus, be it a good discussion or a bad one we will all stand before Him

If we love and obey Jesus, our life will be a light to others and draw them in to the father's presence, sharing the simplicity of the gospel. We do not need to share the way religion teaches. More people leave Christianity today because they have no foundation.

@@justincuvelier9569 We as Christians don't share "as religion teaches" by delivering the gospel....religion is of man, so no wonder its less effective but this notion that behaving a certain way manipulates more to come to your specific church, well isn't that the same as the fraud the Mormon church delivers the message?

Steven Martin hi Steven

how are mormons lost?? i can never get an answer from non mormon they always tiptoe around it or change the subject in all honesty what an ignorant thing for you to say they are lost

stan price in Christian lingo, “lost” refers to those who are not in Christ, according to Christian orthodoxy, Mormons and not in Christ, therefore they are lost. Or “unsaved” it is not an insult but rather a title

@@getdownto311 When you're on the wrong road going in the wrong direction. You're lost. So not believing the map of truth in order to get you to the place you desire to go, you're lost. Like this young man, If you believe in a Jesus all the way to the point of the resurrection and then change everything about who He is. You're lost because you believe in another Christ. That's not skirting around the question.plain and simple.

@@getdownto311 It's a false religion, it does not follow the bible, Mormon''s have their own bible and doctrine, and that is called operating in the doctrine of men.

God bless you! Jesus said that he would divide people and families. The truth naturally divides. To be worthy of Jesus and eternal life one must side with God's truth even if it divides his own family. John 10:27-29

@@danielmeakin All you need to do is repent of your idolatry and any other sins. The moment you do that God will forgive you of all your sins and give you his righteousness, which is the righteousness of God. 2 Corinthians 5:21 I John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Joseph Smith and every LDS prophet since him have preached a gospel of “do,” negating the gospel of “done” that Jesus preached and was. The LDS church is all about what it and its members must still do and be if they want to live with God (and be a god) one day. The true church is all about proclaiming what Christ has DONE to make us right with God now for all eternity. It’s a certainty. Jesus Christ canceled the record of debt that was held against us. All you need to do is accept Christ by faith. It isn't because of who you are and what you must and can do for God. It is because of who God is and what He did for you in sending Jesus to be the sacrificial offering for your sins. To be your substitute on the cross and to satisfy the demands of God's law that stands against you. Christ has done the one work that was necessary to reconcile you to God. Christ has done the one act of righteousness that could bring justification and life to all men. All Christ is asking with open arms is for you to lay down your religiosity and works at the foot of the cross and allow Christ to take it. Salvation is quite simple. Luke 18 And He also told this parable to some people who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and viewed others with contempt: 10 “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood and was praying this to himself: ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I pay tithes of all that I get.’ 13 But the tax collector, standing some distance away, was even unwilling to lift up his eyes to heaven, but was beating his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, the sinner!’ 14 I tell you, this man went to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted.” God bless you.

What's sad is that you left a false religion to join another one. Jeff is a false teacher. We're not saved by repenting of all sins and doing any other sacrifices, we're saved by faith alone in what Jesus accomplished for us on the cross. Being God and the perfectly sinless lamb, he paid for all our sins by pouring his precious blood on the cross and resurected three days later for our justification. You believe it, you're saved, you don't believe it or mock it, you perish.

​@@gethsemane-777 I'm not sure I follow. Repentance is directing all our faith to Christ instead of to other objects, yes? I'm not trying to follow Jeff although I've found his videos helpful as an ex-mormon; I read Isaiah 44 yesterday as he recommended to a Mormon on one of these and God spoke to me through those verses like I haven't heard him speak to me for many years. Honestly the last time I felt that way was when I read the Book of Mormon as a boy. My understanding now though is those feelings were from a false God because Mormon doctrine contradicts God's Word in the Bible and therefor what I felt was not from God but was of the flesh. The feelings I had yesterday are of God because they were in response to and align with his written Word whereas the feelings I had as a boy were in response to false teachings from a false prophet and contradict His Word and must be a pseudo-spiritual experience derived from the flesh. We can be sanctified though through our faith in Christ and a separation from sin can occur if it is the will of God, yes?

@@jlewis8145 Thank you for your response. I am in a better place today I believe God is leading me from darkness. I love the parable you shared from Luke I will meditate on it more and pray for mercy.

There is no wisdom in the trinity - it is a false teaching and a lie

Yes that’s what we should do but it’s sad that he been believing in that Satanic Polygamous God name Elohim and that False Jesus known as The Mormon Jesus who is a False Christ.

Or maybe he's not wrong but has the same level of conviction in his faith as the pastor but isn't as skilled in debate or as well versed in scripture. Humble yourself.

@@malignantmorningstar6289 he's definitely just wrong

@@malignantmorningstar6289 Certainly he has the same level of conviction and his faith and that’s understandable but so does every single person on this planet And speaking of Faith based religions This really isn’t a matter of faith this is a matter of context The Mormon teaching does not line up with the biblical world Christian view I think that was kind of the main point of this conversation There’s nothing wrong with people having their own faith But In this conversation we’re talking about theology Scripture history And the identity and persons of God

@@malignantmorningstar6289 So it's "not humble" to say that a man who is wrong is wrong? Are you serious? You are being lukewarm and that is not good. You need to read Revelation 3:15

Mormonism is dangerous

Christianity is not a religion, it’s a heart change, but ultimately a relationship with God. Just thought I’d clear that up

@@owenwilliams4711 From Google "the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods." I'm pretty sure Christianity qualifies.

@@jaihummel5057 yeah no it doesn’t say that at all. What google does say is “the religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, or its beliefs and practices”.

Christiany.... is not a religion my friend, although it is technically considered as one.

Couldn’t agree more he reminds me of Sam shamoun

But not impossible. The Bible says Study to show they self approve

Hmm Jesus said John 14:26 For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say. Luke 12:12 But the Comforter, who is the Holy Ghost whom the Father will send in My name, He shall teach you all things and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. How will He bring it you our remembrance if you don't know it 😅? That's why we gotta read and study, and Meditate on the word of God. And observe it Joshua 1:8

It’s called the holly spirit

Jeff is literally Michael Jordan when it comes to these situations!

If GOD did open his eyes, it will not be to the trinity - which is quite silly if you think about it, as this guy spent the bulk of his time preaching a doctrine and message that is completely unlike the doctrine and teachings of Christ - oh the irony

@@smalltimer4370Mormonism is a false religion and Joseph Smith will receive what he deserves for trying to deceive and lead others away from the true Christ

@@smalltimer4370 The Bible from start to finish points to the trinity. You might refuse to believe that fact but that is truth. I challenge you to ask him for his truth and I can guarantee that you’ll fine it in the trinity. May God guide you and protect you always. God bless you.

@@Jayb2428 The Bible does not point the trinity - what a silly thing to say - the Bible is complete and explicit, in-that there is only one source alone and by Himself of whom and to whom are all things - that is the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ alone. Of this we are assured, as Jesus Christ Himself testified it. And so while the people of this world keep looking for ways to embellish the plain truth of scripture with lies, they do so at the expense of Jesus' teachings and commandments, and all because a group of degenerate men said so - not Jesus, or any approved prophet, but very, very clearly, a group of degenerate men having no place whatsoever in the written truth of scripture. And so, in response to your challenge I would answer in truth - that I have pleaded GOD for the truth, and that His Holy Spirit revealed it, as it was revealed to Jesus Christ - the truth of GOD without the addition or removal of anything. That is what GOD's servant and follower of Christ is now testifying to - the truth revealed by GOD, against the lies of men. That is why Jesus Christ did not worship, teach or preach a triune god at any point in His ministry. That is also why, there is not one single mention of anyone worshipping such a god in all of Bible history. That is also why there are no declarations or revelations of such a god(triune) in all Bible history. And finally, that is why there is no such god taught or revealed in the doctrine of godliness established by Jesus Christ on earth. True followers of Christ will worship, teach and preach as Jesus did on earth - and we all know without a doubt, that Jesus did not worship, teach or preach a triune god in His ministry - no one, in all of Bible history did so in-fact. - you have been deceived friend, repent and beg the one true GOD and Father of Jesus Christ for mercy, so that your eyes may be opened, as others were opened before you. Repent so that you may worship in truth as our Lord Jesus Christ worshipped in truth. Repent so that you may testify to the truth as He testified to the truth - the time to stop carrying-out Satan's lies is now! - amen

I guess you haven't heard about this Paul guy who has some amazing incites to the book of Abraham supporting Joseph Smith. He is frightening the critics who have actually blocked him from commenting on several sites. He has some brilliant evidence to explain why Joseph was adding characters that didn't match Egyptian. like we see in the facsimile 2 their were likewise Lacunas (holes) in the missing Abraham scroll. The dead sea scrolls had the same problems wherein they had to invent Greek words and character's to fill in certain empty holes in the scrolls. Joseph and the scribes were likely using the book of breathings characters to fill in several such lacunas in an attempt to match the English translation with the Egyptian character's. What he proposes explains everything the critics question and supports the reality that Smith was actually translating from Egyptian. Don't miss this new evidence. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--ZCk6jX1CIY.html

Patience is a virtue 👍Jeff is smart.

Scripture is of no private interpretation. It says what it says . If you reject what it says then that’s on you. This Mormon straight up rejects the word of God in favor of his traditions.He keeps saying that he can’t comprehend the scripture because he is telling the truth. He is not saved and without the Holy Spirit it is impossible to comprehend spiritual things.

That Mormon was looking for a stiff uppercut from Jeff. And his heart and head was not open to the truth.

@@swarlesbarkely2449 Hard to listen to someone that doesn't provide an alternative argument. Scripture is scripture and doesn't change. All the Mormon did is studder and stammer.

Kurt... you are loved by Jesus BEYOND MEASURE... receive...

Do you remember what it was that convinced you that LDS is false?

Or, are you simply trying to find a way to receive "forgiveness" without having to do all it takes (not to say you haven't tried). Of course it's difficult, but the solution isn't to find an "easier" way, especially if the easier way doesn't result in complete repentance nor forgiveness. Christ is willing to forgive all. All it takes is your complete heart. It's not about the "work" you have to do. Work simply represents where your heart truly is. If you say, "Lord, I give my heart completely to you... on the following terms..." Then where is your heart, truly? Don't give up.

@@Leif208are you yelling him to not give up on Lds

@April G just ask them for a copy of the Book of Mormon and they will give you one for free. Then sit down and read it with an inquiring and open mind, after which you should pray with sincerity of heart and ask Heavenly Father if it is a true book. God bless.

@April G Reading the Holy Bible will not verify if the Book of Mormon is true or not, altho there are parts in the BoM that support the Bible and visa versa. It's best to read the BoM then pray about it...ask God if it's True scripture.

@@yunginspirit3162 - That's assuming on your part that the Book of Mormon is a greater authority than the Bible. The Bible does not state/teach of other gods like the LDS do, including the possibility of becoming a "god". In other words, Mormons find the Bible false, if you are being intellectually honest. With all due respect, reading the Bible will verify the Book of Mormon as false. As the conversation in this video portrays, Isaiah 43 and John 1 fundamentally torpedo the crucial question of who Jesus was/is according to LDS teachings. Additionally, there is no teaching in the Bible linking Lucifer to Christ as "brothers".

@@machtnichtsseimann While many LDS people believe that because of the many translations that the bible had to go through to get to our language it has lost some of the true meaning that were intended when it was written, we still believe in the Bible and that it is a true text from God. An easy way to point out that the bible can be wrong is when the Pharaoh of Egypt is said to have God hardening his heart when this could never be possible. God can't take away the agency of any human, Pharaoh hardens his own heart against the words of Moses. On the other hand though, the bible does verify the BoM, one way that we use is 2 Corinthians 13:1, paul states that "In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established" proving that when God is teaching something important he sends another source to confirm it. If i think of any other verses in the bible I will reply these were just some thoughts that I had immediately after reading your comment.

@@machtnichtsseimann I thought of Ezekiel 37 where it talks about the joining of one stick and another stick, stick meaning written tablet or some form of writing. the joining of the tribe of Judah and joseph or ephraim. Another one is in John 10 Jesus talks about being a good shepherd that he will visit his other sheep that are not in this fold and I would put a lot of money on the fact that there would be documenting of Jesus Christ visiting his other sheep.

Hale Hafa no, they aren’t.

Are you being hypothetical, Mr. Copy and Paste ? No matter how many times you copy and paste your lies, they are still lies and meant to deceive. You have no power among God's children. Shame on you. Repent and ask God to help you learn the truth.

Jeff knows one thing and that is how to manipulate the scriptures. This servant of God is maybe 18 or 19. Jeff is way up on him in years and experience, I mean he probably attended the school of anti-Christ and how to manipulate people. I do believe that God will find more favor in his young apprentice who is doing his best to spread the gospel of truth and light vs, the one that is making every effort to destroy ones faith. Sort of like Cain and Able.

Mormons wouln't be mormons if they really knew what they were following.

I think this actually happens often ,especially if born into a church..Or even if they door knocked and brought someone in. People don't always know the deeper teachings,in the church they attend.

Jesus was no trinitarian True followers of Christ, will follow in Jesus' footsteps. That is to say, to worship, teach and preach as Jesus did. And we all know without a doubt that Jesus did not worship, teach or preach a triune god. In fact, we can say without a doubt that there is not one single person in all of Bible history who did such a thing.

John 10:27-29 God bless you!

true followers of Christ believe that He is God in the flesh Who redeems us through His work of righteousness on the cross on our behalf because we do not have the power to save ourselves from God's wrath. God Himself paid the price. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. Jesus Himself said He is the great I AM, He is the Alpha and Omega, and that because they saw Him, they saw the Father, because they are ONE.

@@masteringfibromyalgia Who told you that followers of Christ believe that Jesus is GOD in the flesh? Or that it was GOD the Father, GOD the Son and GOD the Holy Spirit who payed the price? And finally, from where has the expression 'the great I AM' come from? That being said, it would appear that your testimony consists of made-up terms and definitions, rather than the written truth of GOD.

What fold?

_Thus says Yahweh, your Redeemer, and he who formed you from the womb: _*_"I am Yahweh, who makes all things_*_ who _*_alone_*_ stretches out the heavens; who spreads out the earth _*_by myself_* - Isaiah 44.24 Behold the written truth! With that said, the truth is revealed to those whose hearts are open to receive it. _In that same hour Jesus rejoiced in the Holy Spirit, and said, "I thank you, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for so it was well-pleasing in your sight"_ - Luke 10.21 _Then he opened their minds, that they might understand the Scriptures_ - Luke 24.45 _The things which you have heard from me among many witnesses, commit the same to faithful men, who will be able to teach others also... 15Give diligence to present yourself approved by God, a workman who doesn't need to be ashamed, properly handling the Word of Truth_ - 2 Tim 2.12, 15 Whereas Jesus warned of the corruption of the true doctrine following His departure; _For I know that after my departure, vicious wolves will enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30Men will arise from among your own selves, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them_ - Acts 20.29-30 _But the Spirit says expressly that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons, 2through the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, branded in their own conscience as with a hot iron_ - 1 Tim 4.1-2 For which we are warned and guided to guard ourselves; _Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God. For many false prophets have gone out into the world_ - 1 John 4.1 And that is where false doctrines fit-in; _For the time will come when they will not listen to the sound doctrine, but, having itching ears, will heap up for themselves teachers after their own lusts_ - 2 Tim 4.3 As it is obvious that many religious institutions have fallen-away from the true doctrine of godliness, it is therefore our duty to heed Jesus' warnings and council; _But false prophets also arose among the people, as false teachers will also be among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, denying even the Master who bought them, bringing on themselves swift destruction. 2Many will follow their immoral ways, and as a result, the way of the truth will be maligned. 3In covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words: whose sentence now from of old doesn't linger, and their destruction will not slumber_ - 2 Peter 1.1-3 _not to be quickly shaken in your mind, nor yet be troubled, either by spirit, or by word, or by letter as from us, saying that the day of Christ had come. 3Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction, 4he who opposes and exalts himself against all that is called God or that is worshiped; so that he sits as God in the temple of God, setting himself up as God_ - 2 Thes 2.2-4 And who is it that loves lies instead of the truth? _Because of this, God sends them a working of error, that they should believe a lie; 12that they all might be judged who didn't believe the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness_ - 2 Thes 2.11 _But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his_ - Ro 8.9 _You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying, 8'These people draw near to me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9And in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrine rules made by men'"_ - Matthew 15.7-9 Having said all that, how do we identify true followers of Christ from the false ones? The answer is simple, in-that we look to those who are actually following in Jesus' footsteps, as-in, worshiping and preaching as Jesus did. And we all know Jesus did not worship nor preach a triune god at any point in His ministry - behold the true doctrine of Christ! Stay strong and keep petitioning GOD for enlightenment brother!

If your family members love Jesus and turn to Him in repentance for their sins, you will see them again in Heaven. If they are sincere in wanting to believe in the one true God, they just need to be shown the contradictions between what the LDS church teaches and what the Bible actually says. I left the Greek Orthodox church when I began to see things in the church's teachings that didn't line up with scripture. So I completely understand what you're going through. It can be gut wrenching. But I can tell you with 100% certainty that God will carry you through and provide what you need. He is faithful. It took almost 30 years for my mom to come to Jesus. I never thought I'd see it. You'll be OK.

Amen..merry Christmas n happy new year...

Hi, Padilla. I feel your struggle and your pain. Please read my post above (the long one). I believe it will help you. God bless. Alan

This is one of the best testimonies I’ve read. “Being fed a delicious poison” shows a wise assessment of your situation and provides such sincere evidence of a contrite heart. What a gift it is to be comforted by the true God of creation.

Amen!

Amen

you should watch a video exposing this preacher as a heathen.

@@iconacy lol please. This man has not misquoted or misused scripture, youve clearly never listened to him preach the gospel nor do you know the gospel to turn around and say this man is a heathen please give me an example of where and how he has preached or given false deceptive gospels to anyone.

He will be fine lol

Nikao, In this case I couldn't agree with that. I'd say the reason so many members don't listen to Jeff and other apologetics is the fact they don't act alike Christ when talking, Jeff and others alike him are so argumentative that even if members believe him, they also believe he's a hypocrite because he doesn't preach like Christ. Thinking to themselves, "even if The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is false, Jeff's church must be more false because they say they follow Christ, so their doctrine must be to argue and be rude. That can't be the doctrine of Christ, I mustn't follow Jeff". He's got to be more Christ like.

@@danielmoore4024 I know what mean. I believe calvinist misrepresent who God is and the word of God who is Christ. but my comment was in general to everything in life. and yes I believe we are called to be a witness and not obnoxious

Right? Shows exactly what happens when your raised in whatever it is. It moulds the brain and spirit, only Christ can penetrate a man's heart. Thank you Jeff for being a conduit for Christ.

@@danielmoore4024 What do you consider to be "Christ like" then? He is loving the other human while pointing out the errors in their ways (like Christ). Jesus was not "tolerant" in the way the world is.

@@jesussaves6625 Love thy neighbor as thyself. Disrespecting agency, a gift from God is not love, it's plain and clear they've made their choice, respect their rights to choose for themselves as Christ allowed the Pharisees to choose for themselves. Does Jeff want his human rights to choose for himself? Surely. Since he loves himself enough to allow himself his right to choose he should love others to have their rights to choose. He obviously doesn't allow others their right to disagree meaning he does not love his neighbours as himself.

Triston Aguirre it gets better with time age and experience. When I first got saved I came out like a gang buster! Lots of Truth and short on love and gentleness. I even had to take a good break (with approval from the Lord) now it’s more balanced yet I still tend to get over aroused but that has more to do with my own difficulty with sensory regulation. I’m like this even if I’m talking about other subjects non-related to the Word. I think too many years drinking caffeine really messed up my nerves. I feel I have limitations now as far as how much I’m angle to interact before I get very depleted and drained.

Keep seeking God He will give you what u need according His calling for u

Way to go bro Triston. John

Amen

Me too

Do you care that he can not describe the image of God, except to repeat that god is a spirit and lead you to your own imagination of what he is, specially if you like it? Imagine Adam describing to his children God, the same way you are not able to describe him, and then telling them, buti walked with him and he spoke with me and your mom and i could hear him and see him that is why we even hid ourselves from him, but he found us and made us clothes also and tolds us many things. but now he is a spirit and you can not see him. If you are an ex-mormon just remember, the great loss of an ex-mormon is not the blessings but the light of the Holy Ghost teaching you how to come back to Heavenly Father. That is why you are so impressed with simple rationalizations of the bible.

God is not only a spirit ,first God is a person ho have a Holly Spirit .The Holly Spirit is not a person ,is the power of God to be prezent în all dimension !

@@bebyfabry6831 How much of the bible have you read in order for you to declare such stupidity.3 pages, 24 scriptures? read it all and study it on your own. And stop comparing God to your favorite fantasy books.

@@alfredomoreno301 What fantasy books are you talking about? Don't be stupid ,Bible have 1223 pages end i read all the Bible.Who are you to says what is right or rong about my perspective of God ,end what religious tribe are are you reprezent ?

Nobody knows fully who God is. Our minds cannot comprehend fully what he is

I'm sorry to tell u man.. you just got out from a hole nd fell in an other one

Happy for you

Should leave it all together.

I am a current "Mormon" and proud to be a follower of Jesus as well.

@@swarlesbarkely2449 When Mormons refer to Jesus Christ, they are referring to a Mormon jesus who is the brother of Satan and they are two of many sons and daughters of a Mormon polygamist exalted man god, a Mormon so-called heavenly father, who himself is one of a myriad of Mormon polygamist exalted men god father, grandfathers, great grandfathers, etc., according to Joseph Smith, founder of Mormonism, Brigham Young, 2nd Mormon false prophet. Jesus of the Bible and Christians is not the jesus of the Mormon Church, nor a son of a Mormon exalted man, nor the brother of Satan. As it is written, “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)”

Satan should be ashamed trying to make himself equal with Jesus.

MORMON DUDE: “But but but but wait wait wait wait I I I was gonna say...ok ok ok buuut... in the totality ah ah ah well so so so that’s your interpre-ligation. WHAT BRO???!!! 😂 LOL

T. Lane so your making fun of a dude their trying to minister to ? Are you a Christian T. Lane ? Love your neighbor as yourself ? Judge not ?

*Jesus* is the Word of God. The bible is scripture that *bears witness to* the Word of God. Two different things.

Daniel Miner NICE

Ya... But Who is going to show and lead the protestants to the True Church founded by Christ?

@@optimoprimo132If you follow that line of thought, you are giving the glory due only to The Father and giving it to men. Were it not for “the one true church”s corruption, the protestant reformation wouldn’t have happened.

@@yosiyyahu.bar.stephen 2 wrongs do not make a right. Corruption is gauranteed when dealing with human beings. The Word didn't become flesh because of the amazing track record of human beings or because everyone was going to magically become super saints in the future. He founded a Church despite human weakness and even one of His cloest followers betrayed him and the one who He called rock upon which He was going to build His Church denied Him. Yet Jesus as God created His plan including all the variables of human weakness. The authority of His Church still stands and this was as He willed it. The Church will always retain this authority based on the power and wisdom of God. Nothing good happens when trying to step outside this authority and it only makes things worse. Just because protestants abandoned the bark of Peter does not give them a free pass of responsibility. Remember that the same anscestors who you condemn for corruption are your anscestors along with the catholic church. We all have the same roots and bear the same responsibility of the past. Creating even more division did nothing to fix whatever was set out to be fixed. The end does not justify the means. History shows that division comes from one place and the result is not unity or reform but rather more disunity, divisions, confusion and corruption if the truth. Just honest look at the state of christianity.

What patience? They are having a calm adult conversation. Just because people don't agree on something, doesn't mean they are "fighting" and one has patience while the other doesn't.

@@incognitovortex5796 if someone plainly “rejects” because they don’t agree with something by their subjective opinion, then you have to have patience because they actually don’t want to listen. He clearly just rejected what Bible says.

@@Viiola24 I think you watched a different video. He rejected someone's interpretation of the Bible, not the Bible. It's not the same thing.

The amount of patience pastor Jeff has with this man is absolutely remarkable.😊

Well youre an impacient person full of judgement and anger twards youre fellow man

you a christian??? you sure dont act like in fact you are quite far from it the way bash the mormons you Hypocrite!!

Jesus was radical.

Pray let my spirit aid ye.

stan price No one here has bashed Mormonism. I pray you will listen to this and think on it.

@@getdownto311 When challenged with the truth you and people like you call bashing what is challenging what one believes is true. Maybe I'm wrong on your point. Both guys are presenting their understanding of truth. One uses his own truth the other is just quoting passages of scripture. That is one of the most loving things a Christian can do.

Mike Walsh lol

Jeff rejected his points because they weren’t scripturally accurate. The Mormon is trying to find ways around listening to the word of God. He’s only taking pieces of the scripture as his truth and rejecting other clearly defined verses. Dancing around the facts.😣

All glory to God! 🙌

Not just almost

@@antbones3618 facts biased off one mans interpretation. one persons facts is another persons hearsay.

Truth_is_the_new_hate, Not all of us are stuck with the excuse interpretation, most members of all religions I see have a script of scriptures in their mind without their own reasoning to believe what they say, they just say what they were told. As an example, those who believe God is a spirit automatically turn to John 4:24 because that's what they were taught, when the missionaries want to talk about faith they automatically turn to Alma 32 because that's what they were taught. I agree with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints because of many patterns and symbolism I see in the Bible, not because of a list of scriptures in a textbook. I agree Christ, Satan and we are all literal spirit brothers and sisters through Revelation 12, Abraham sacrificing Issac, symbolism between the law of Moses and Jesus Christ, 3 Nephi and the name "The Lamb of God". I've questioned people on biblical scriptures, they share their answers, I then tell them the answer they gave me and they refuse to believe it. Jeff confessed premortal life is biblical then when I asked did he just say that he denied saying it.

Yep, the word is clear as day. They are 3 seperate beings one in purpose. Thanks for admitting it. But do explain how 1 person can talk to himself without a mental illness. Jeff can't even answer it, but tries to talk his way around it.

@@jasonbelt8954 all thinking is talking to ourselves, often silently and sometimes out loud. If you think, then you talk to yourself. It is natural. People just try to hide it when other people are around so as not to appear crazy. Everybody thinks and speaks out loud at times throughout the day their own thoughts.

@@danielmoore4024 so much be clear, are you saying that the literal plain text of scripture isn't as important as symbolism? Or is it that the text does not matter at all? And then what symbolism are you seeing that supercedes the scriptures that say there is only one God?

@@jasonbelt8954 it says there is only one God over, and over, and over, and over again.

Jeff was well behaved because he was being videotaped.

Totally agree with you. As a Christian "bible bashers" have their place but I don't relate that. This is how Christians should treat everyone.

@@BradK02 Thanks, my brother.

Diversion away from answering LDS questions with quotes from bible.😮

It's good to pray for people - though it's vital that we pray for the right things in such cases. ie, the trinity is not truth of God, and should therefore never be prayed for. if anything we should pray for the truth of God - no some doctrine invented by a bunch of corrupt men

@@smalltimer4370 the Triune nature of God is not a creation of man, but a revelation from God in the Bible. You need to read up on scripture and not let your human perception get in the way. There's no way to have a decent discussion on this here but why don't you check out more videos from this pastor or other resources on the web to find out the truth because the denial of God's nature is a serious offense

@@stephenfloyd3522 "revelation of God in the Bible" - so where in the Bible does it say that the Trinity is doctrine? Did you know there were no trinitarian early Christians before the Trinity was created? The contentious Council of Nicaea was made up of men, not apostles or prophets of old. Saint Nicholas even punched the main leader of the majority of Christians that opposed the Trinity. This was done over 300 years after Christ died and was put together by the pagan Constantine for political purposes. Before the Trinity, pagans had a god(s) that were triune.

@@aluf2567 Just like Jeff was saying, Colossians 1:15-17, were Christ created all things. Paul believed in the trinity and he wrote around AD 62.

@Islayman Jesus is the Way, Truth, and Life.

Why do you rejected the Bible? You can not become God's! Of your own planet. Repent or burn in hell

Loved that part!

David Fuller buddy of mine the other day told me I sounded like a Pharisee when I was speaking so cold about the lost. I’m not saying you are. But. In first peter when it says always be ready to give a reason for hope that is within you. It says to sanctify Christ in your heart. Win the soul not the argument. Rome wasn’t built in a day and sometimes god calls for years.

grizzlytomahawk so you’re that guy👌

@@davidfuller4320 not sure that's really going to win anyone until/unless you show their follies as well give some evidence of what is correct....many of them are brainwashed and lost in deception so they need a guide to find the truth again and or for the 1st time.

Jeffrey I am so sorry about your loss.

Ty so much.Rich loved the Lord and I'm comforted in knowing he is where he wanted to be! God bless you Always, Betty

@@jeffrey63031 I am sorry for your loss Betty. It must be a great comfort knowing he loved the Lord.

jeffrey63031 have you repent?

You got your beliefs completely destroyed as a JW? Likewise, are you now a trinitarian? Just curious btw

@@smalltimer4370 I'm still working on what I believe. The Bible is so complex , and it's tougher when I don't speak Greek and Hebrew. Bible variations can alter context completely by interpretation. Then factor in my sceptic mind... I do believe in a creator for certain. How about yourself ?

@@Blindsyde5762 I believe in the one true GOD YHWH [יְהוָ֞ה], and the resurrection of Jesus Christ in accordance with scripture. And while I would also admit that the struggle with the parent Hebrew and Greek texts is indeed real, I should be said that we are far better disposed than ever in deciphering the written truth from scripture, thanks to the tools and advancements of modern day technology, such as; Biblehub, ChatGPT, the Concordances and advent of none-denominational Bible translations such as the WEB for example. That said, and while it is true that the Bible is a vast and complex work, there remains one outstanding aspect, in-where we get to put GOD to the test, by taking Him up on His word for enlightenment. To which I'd add, is a win-win, in-that this not only demonstrates that the GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is indeed genuine and true, but moreso, by providing those putting faith in His instructions with the evidence they need to proceed with the assurance that they are indeed proceeding in accordance with GOD's will. PS. therefore and should you be interested, I would love to read the Bible with you - no gimmicks, no hidden agenda's, just two people reading GOD's word in search of the truth

⁠@@Blindsyde5762what if i said take a leap of faith, one night just pray to God. Jesus. Holy Spirit. You wana know him right? Really open your heart, tell me you don’t receive the Lord at that moment! Reply whenever you can. So many faithful Christians, have unlocked the key too life through Christ, and the key too treasure, wisdom, and salvation. He’s knocking at the door, just open it, it won’t kill you, it will FULFILL YOU. MAKE YOU WHOLE Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.

@RichMizenko I have prayed for that many times...

The trinity is not of the Bible however - ie, Jesus did not worship or teach of a triune god.

@@SmalltimR you obviously haven’t read scripture where it clearly says “he fell to there knees and started worshiping him” I’m sorry but I feel like a lot of people aren’t chasing truth they’re just focus on winning the argument or being others away from the truth

@@ramelbrooks2316 How do people go from worshiping Jesus to an imaginary god that is nowhere taught, defined, worshiped or preached anywhere in Bible history? Those who worship a god other than the GOD of Jesus Christ do so as Apostates of Christ. The trinity is a destructive heresy invented 350 years after Jesus' death and resurrection. It is a lie and a product of the devil, intended to deceive would-be Christians into becoming liars by spreading false teachings. Satan has the entire world under his influence. He doesn't care about you or anyone else.

The devil is patient

Patience maybe a virtue, though not always bound to good works - ie, the devil is patient, though clearly not inclined to good works With that said, I'd urge that you consider the truth of GOD with vigilance - Jesus did not worship a triune GOD, and our salvation was never rooted in such things in the gospel...

​@@Charles.Wright First you insult me, then proceed to agree with everything that I have said - Jesus never did this

I was in this customers house last week and asked him about a puzzle on a table that was temple square in utah. He asked if I knew anything about the temple and I said "it looks like a mormon temple from utah" and he asked if I followed that church, my response was "no Im christian" and his response was "we're christian too" not knowing any of the differences I didnt press the issue. He was probably in his 70s

@@OCDlosp Many people do not know what being a Christian actually means according to the Bible - though the worst thing a Christian could ever do, is argue with someone else on whether they are Christian or not...

Jessaka Powers, If you want to make becoming more alike the Saviour, improve Christ's attributes, increase your awareness. Once you provide enough space to observe your mind it becomes easier to control our thoughts and feelings, we become better at recognising where our thoughts will lead us.

If you where to tell Jeff any of your belief even if you're a Christian he would tell you what he understands from all his studying and that's what he stands for, also thats why there is many religions. Faith is the very foundation, interpretations are many and God there is only one.

I am once a mormon and they are the most beautiful people but they are all decieved by the leaders..

He is not confused. He just disagrees. That is not the same thing. You, unfortunately, have been taught twisted versions of our faith. We believe and read the Bible. We just interpret it differently. We believe that the creeds are not of God.

Ben Dover So is taking a big dump !! Yes it’s the truth and life

That is exactly what the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches. All are being invited to come unto Christ and receive the fullness his gospel.

Charles Brown actually u guys teach good works get u salvation

@I don’t know A username Actually we don't. You guys misconstrue the doctrines that we teach. Nothing is done without the grace of Jesus Christ and his sacrifice. Nothing is possible without his grace. Jeff Durbin, and the likes teach that God created us out of nothing (exnihilo) because he was bored and needed to be worshipped and that we are simply inferior creatures somewhat like robots, and pawns with an artificially infused intelligence that some how constitutes free will. We teach that God created the world because he loved us as his literal children before we came to earth and that through worshipping and obeying God we receive blessings including eternal salvation. The orthodox folks such as Jeff Durbin and like you must be, teach that more people seem to be headed to hell than to heaven and yet you don't know what either one is really is. You just teach that hell is as bad as it can get and heaven is as good as it can get. You beleive heaven is a static place with no growth and God's glory is limited. We believe it is a dynamic place with a continued increase that glorifies God forever. We teach that God desires to save all of his children and does this through the grace of Jesus Christ. Only the sons of perdition who will full knowledge rejected Jesus will go to a literal "hell". You apparently think the saving power of Jesus is not sufficient to save the majority of the Father's children.

@@charlesbrown1245 Not so. LDS places Joe Smith ahead of Jesus. The name is there only to prostitute.

Is there a timestamp for that?

I did that with a jw's. We talked about John 1:1c. And it didn't take a lot. We just got to learn how to presented it to them. They believe the word *[A]* should be in john 1:1c. As: "and the Word was [A] God." We just have to be knowledgeable enough to show that it cannot be there.

@@chatnoir8524 it's at 32:20

Don't forget about those snared in JW.

Amen

keep up the good work??? all i see here is this soy boy hipster bashing on the mormon faith what a dick!

@@angelawilson6751 Calvinists are the most prideful and arrogant people you'll ever meet.

Your phrasing of “I rejected Joseph Smith and turned to Jesus Christ” is rather insulting. As a member of the the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, we do not “believe” in Joseph Smith. We do not praise him and seek to him for guidance for forgiveness, and we do no worship him. We worship Jesus Christ, the Son of God who died on the cross and was resurrected so that we could all live again.

Deborah Clark not a genius.its power of God

Be an argumentative, and prideful man is who you see Christ as? Why would I trust someone who doesn't follow Christ? Apologetics, arguing, debating is the stupidest way to make people believe you know Christ.

The Grace of God

He's calm and patient because he's filled with the spirit of Christ!🙏

Tammy Rogne is that different than the spirit of the Father and the Holy Spirit?

@@jlar1984 No.

Any idiot can debate a STREET DRUNK.

Adam.......I admire Jeff patience & sound biblical knowledge

Adam, I’m exhausted watching him. It’s amazing how he has so much patience.

@@toddlake7489 , truly a gift from God.

I guess you see what you want to see. I could see that he clear was not really listening, his eyes half closed, a licking of his lips, blinking, and an air of feigned patience while he waits until the other less prepared person finishes, but then delivers his very prepared and oft repeated talking points. I don't see this as open minded, but clearly a closed minded, closed ears approach to "discussion" when it is not a discussion at all. The way that he answered against John 17:21 was amazing, almost flippant, where he offered his opinion that in the case of John 17:21 Jesus was talking about unity, but in the case of the "Trinity" which Jesus never once spoke about (because it is a man made doctrine), in that case we must believe it means literally one being. Well, its a man made doctrine, the word "Trinity" does not appear in all of the Bible. think about that.

bookofmormonanswers I think he was listening very well. The “less prepared” man was missing what Jeff was saying. And that’s why it must of been so exhausting for Jeff, cause the mormon wasn’t hearing what Jeff was saying. Jeff knows what mornons believe because his testimony is that he used to be one, until he read all scripture. Anyways I’m not going to try and argue with you on it. Just that Jeff was willing to take him out for lunch or supper to talk about it and have a proper dialogue. Where the “less prepared man” can come with all his notes, and Jeff can come with the Holy Bible. 😀

He's a fraud - most of his arguments have been proven to be bunk, yet he continues to mislead others because he has no regard for the truth of God

Smalltimer no he has Jesus

@@smalltimer4370 can you please provide sources for your stance here?

Does this really go on for an hour plus? Are they really arguing over where Jesus was born? In some cases, in these type of videos you could easily have a Presbyterian VS a Lutheran VS a Baptist. Now, I'm not advocating Mormonism here but this idea of everyone having the EXACT same interpretation of minor points, dates of birth, pre-trib, post-trib etc. is not only not realistic, its dissention, its causing fractions etc Most importantly, these knowledge battles are unlikely to win ANY converts. It becomes nothing more than a debate with the power of human effort alone. This should concern us all

Listening to these two reminds me of the trump, biden debate!

jb 0818 study the kjb. Study the kjb. Only the kjb will give you the truth

Amen!! Me too!

Was thinking the same thing.

@john rider are you seriously proposing the government sanctioned KJV is the only true word of God?

@@Johnrider1234 its hard to read..

Kaybee Chioma where was the respect on Jeff’s part.... he is adamantly refusing to hear them.... He already has an answer for them...

Clifton Taylor He has an answer based on Scripture. Truth is truth.

Truth Be Known praise the lord your eyes and heart opened

@@jodylee7596 hey, i need help reaching a Jehovah's witness. They seem to be set in their ways...Any tips? Thank you

@@anitahscorner Jesus is Jehovah is Salvation... that is what Jesus name means... hence He is the God whose name is Jehovah is Salvation. Jehovah does not share His name with other gods. Remember YHWH means I Shall Prove to Be Whom I Shall Prove to Be (I Am who I Am). Jesus Proves to Be Salvation. I hope that helps.

You are still deceived. Just traded one cult for another.

@@quemaspana what cult is that?

Hi Alex. See my post above. Merry Christmas.

Astounding, incredible, outrageous. If you didn't know Jeff was such a loving guy you could almost be fooled into believing that he did the whole thing just to browbeat this brainwashed idiot into submission and show off his incredible intellect and Ninja-Like mental reflexes to the whole of the RU-vid community.

he's a fraud.

Rocky Maher like you, I could not stop watching. I’m a Christian and learn something every time I watch him. I keep my Bible & notebook beside me.

That's what she said.

ImSoPeeved Dude. Really?

She absolutely fucking did, dude. 🍆👌🏽💦

@@ImSoPeeved bruh

Supposed to b born again thru Jesus n the holy spirit. May wanna look into whether or not ur placing too much emphasis on an institution

JaB Wolf: All he is saying is that because of Jeff, his eyes are opened. Lets Celebrate :-) All it takes is a spark of Truth

You came to Christ through this video? That’s amazing!!! Amen brother welcome!!!

@@SamaritanElad let's all calm down here.. only God knows the intention of his heart with the statement he made. I believe he was trying to correct her and lead her closer to truth. Either way let's celebrate our new sister in Christ

Steven, please provide evidence for you claims.

Steven Eri Evidence

Joel well said. Amen.

Thanks for the question Jesse, The Mormon needs to be saved. I, as well as all other Christians, use the word of God to discern who is saved or not. If you are not saved, then you need to be saved. Salvation comes by Grace through faith in Christ alone, we know this thanks to the bible, and all the glory goes to God, because He is the one doing the saving. Repent and believe in God. Don't let your sins keep a grip on your life. Confess Jesus as Lord and fight the good fight.

"Saved", elaborate please. I've always been fascinated about what we're meant to be being saved from, what with an omnipotent god n'all. Omnipotent being the operative word. What kind of being creates a universe with everything needed to support life, and everything in it. He knows everyones thoughts, he knows everything, he is all powerful, right?. So why do you want to save us from him, because the god you worship, according to your worldview caused everything. Why not tell him go fuck himself for being a hypocrite, child murdering, bigoted fuck face who wouldn't even know how to spell morality, let alone create it. Wake up people, Norway and Japan have no religion and they're the best countries in the world, most of Europe were I live have abandoned religion too, like we did the tooth fairy and Santa, same principles apply. I know it's lucrative for some to stay religious, but for the people who believe just because that seems the right thing to do, please rethink it through.

chrisj1011 🤣 I know right

chrisj1011 amen

A Font Please stop lying to yourself

I like the chance for a good opposition, it gives a chance to grow and become stronger. This is a good video.

I'm going to to go read my Harry Potter book.:-). It makes more sense...

@DCfreakshow i was excommunicated when i was 14.

Ask for your name to be removed from the rolls. If they don’t, threaten to go public. www.utlm.org/onlineresources/nameremovalletter.htm

Me too! I was dead set in my faith that the LDS church was true!

@@HotMessCarnivore42 lds created by guys on lsd

Diona Green, If you think the Church is a cult that's fine, you're welcome to your views. If you don't mind me asking, what makes you view it as evil? Are you basing your views on what an individual did or all of us. I'd like to know why you think we're evil.

Amen

Amen!

LV Girl, Jeff doesn't know what he's doing, the missionaries don't know what they're doing, nearly everyone alive is deluded by the world. Do I have the ability to read brains? Of course not, so how do I know exactly what people are going to say and do before they even do so? Here's how, I just have to learn the programme they live by. Over 90% of the time people live by their subconscious thoughts, feelings and motives, but no one has control of their subconscious thoughts including Jeff. If I ask a Catholic why do they believe God is a spirit how do I know they'll show me John 4:24 out of all the options available? I know because that's part of their programme. How did I know Jeff was going to refer to Isaiah 43:10 and erase verse 11 out of all the scriptures saying there's only one God? Because that's part of his programme. The mind is a fascinating thing to learn about, it explains so much about people. Why do people find it so hard to accept certain pieces of information? Nearly everyone has a set of beliefs fixated in their mind, anything that does not suit that set of beliefs the mind refuses to accept and since the people don't control their mind, their mind controls them. Part of Jeff's programme is "God lives", no matter how much someone speaks the truth and says no one knows whether God exists or not, he refuses to accept that truth because it does not suit his programme. The COVID-19 Vaccine, there's some people it hasn't worked on and there was something they had in common, those it didn't work on did not believe it would work, their brain would not accept a successful vaccine because of their beliefs, it's more successful on those who do believe because their mind will accept the information that the vaccine can work. That's how powerful thoughts are. I made Jeff leave his subconscious (programme) to use his conscience instead, he told me his own beliefs are heresy without knowing. I asked him a few questions about scriptures in the Bible and he said premortal life is biblical, I repeated his own words to him and asked "do you agree?" He then said "No, they're heresies." When I told him I said exactly what he said he refused to believe it. His conscious answers oppose his programme so he won't accept what his conscience tells him.

@@danielmoore4024 can you elaborate on you how made him admit his views are Hersey? Also what are your views?

@@Lebronwski I made him admit by making him step out of his comfort zone by my knowledge concerning the mind. During the first 7 years of life humans live by "theta" also known as hypnosis. The first 7 years you were not taught countless rules of how to be a functional member of a family and community, you just observed and were hypnpotized to live that way. 95% of the time humans live by their subconscious thoughts, the mind literally is programmed and that's the problem. Here on RU-vid, type something like "programme mind". 95% of the time you are unconsciously living your subconscious thoughts, feelings and motives, that's why people hardly ever think. I may of written it above, if I ask a Catholic why they believe God is a spirit without a body they will unconsciously turn to John 4:24 because during that first 7 years they were shown John 4:24 to become a functional member of their religion. I made Jeff have to exercise his conscience by asking him questions people don't ask him, since people don't ask him these they are not in his subconscious thoughts. Me: Who's the woman in Revelation 12? Jeff: Israel Me: Who's Israel? Jeff: The Lord's people Me: Where were they? Jeff: Heaven Me: How could Israel flee from Heaven to earth if we were never in Heaven before mortality? Jeff: It wouldn't be able to. Me: We were in Heaven before earth in premortal life, do you agree? Jeff: No, premortal life is heresy. As soon as I allowed him to stop thinking he returned to the subconscience programmed to believe premortal life is heresy and that's why he called his own answers heresy. About John 1:1, I just questioned him pulling him out of his subconscious and it greatly confused him. Me: Eternity has neither beginning nor end, so when during eternity was the beginning? If we didn't exist before the beginning who was God the God of, he couldn't be a God without anyone to be the God of? "I am the Alpha and Omega" Alpha and Omega of what I asked, he said everything. I pointed out, eternity has no end and he refused to believe it, his mind would not accept his conscious thoughts. Jeff does not question his own beliefs, he unconsciously lives as a functional member of his religion, he does not have the freedom to think for himself.

@@Lebronwski What would you like my views of? If you want to know more about the mind without neurological and biological terminology, I recommend you a book called "Awareness" by Anthony De Mello, a great teacher and by the sounds of his book a non-LDS Christian. He was well known for his spiritual lessons, his book teaches you how to gain actual freedom. He writes again and again "WAKE UP!" to his readers. I like what he shares at the end, he shares there's a god in every child, but as soon as people start to mould the child that god in them becomes a devil.

@@danielmoore4024 Wow you have 475 comments on this channel. You’re absolutely obsessed with Jeff

Pastor Jeff is a preacher of lies