Preach Reacts to Bellular's Diablo Immortal Video 

People responsive for this would sell their own children...

I guess someone's not a fan of sex toys, alcohol or insurance.

not really cause that means we cant advertise games with a higher rating meaning that many people who may want to play them would not know those games existed or have any form of monetization in a game which can be done well enough cause you would not want that for your child either right ?

Most people are in this case

Diablo Immortal makes Lost Ark look like charity

@@noahleach7690 A lot of streamers cry about p2w and how bad it is, but then spend hundreds or thousands on it.

@@keygee111 yh its pretty dumb

@@keygee111 "I'm gonna whale to show how bad the monetization is by giving them a ton of money amd views. I am a clever man."

Haven't watched Rich in a while, but I'm still annoyed how big names like him and Asmon are ready to play that garbage on stream. I usually just ignore content that doesn't interest me. Just do something else, doesn't hurt anyone and I'm not missed. But basically boosting Diablo Immoral for some bs reason like "show how p2w it is" is really making me annoyed and almost furious. Best thinh they could and SHOULD have done is ignore it instead of creating any hype.

@@Flistatec It’s easy content, people like you get angry which creates controversy which drives engagement. Other people want to see them buy everything because watching someone become a degenerate whale is fun. The cost of buying all of the stuff in game to create a spectacle is negligible for them so they have no reason not to do it.

@@evanthibodeaux7834 Don't be a dunce. They are whales do what whales do. Whatever excuse they make is simply an excuse to pull the wool over the eyes of fools like you.

@@Flistatec if people didn't eat it up, they wouldn't do it. Also Rich has no qualms about gambling, half of the people who watch him is because of the absurd amount of money he throws at games

its time that this becomes an EU wide law, so gaming companies cant ignore that anymore. they cant ignore such a big gaming market.

@@kalamari8243 I don't think the problem lies with lootboxes per se. The problem are rates of lootboxes diablo immortal has. In many gacha games, to get highest rarity units you have three to six percent chance per roll, often higher when doing multirolls. Here? You have 0.05 PERCENT chance. 0.05%. Like, wtf mate? It's not even predatory anymore, it's straight up rip off, complete scam. Even in genshin impact, for rarest pull, you have 0.6% chance.

@@gruncik1841 usually gatcha games also have a pity system. With the gems don't you have additional rng with the stats that you get?

@@xXDESTINYMBXx Yep. Plus the problem here is, the pity system is flawed. And from what I know, even pity doesn't guarantee you will get 3/5, not even considering gems like 5/5. You will get n/5, anthing between 1 and 5, and truth be told chance for getting 5/5 is laughable. Not even considering the fact that rolling here gives you basically additional numbers in your stat sheet. Why would you even want to roll that?

@@gruncik1841 I wouldn't, ain't got time for that shît. I would rather pay 50$ for metro exodus and enjoy a great game or play PoE as f2p (or any game of your choice)

Years ago I played a russian based MMO that had a similar grind or pay system. I wish I could remember the name, but this is like 10 years ago. The first 30 levels were fine PvE, but after L30 there was no questing or hunting area that wasn't also PvP. In PvP not only did your gear matter, but more so the Enchant Level of the gear. So, you craft a +1 item, you then combines X +1's to make a +2. Combine even more +2's to make a +3, each combine step consumed a resource that technically dropped from monsters but to reach the cap you needed like a 1000 of the resource. The chance of a failed combine increasing with the fewer Dusts(?) you used. Failure meant that all items were lost. The eventual supreme item I recall having a +12 or +13 effect. Okay, fine. Math said you would need to spend 10-$15K to reach the cap. Oh and the capper, there were three items that needed to be enchanted... I only play like 2 months. I remember something about 'Goon Squad' suiciding out of the game as it was too much for even those hardcores...

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Perfectly said. There are two types of gamers: those who Simp for Blizzard, and those who don't play Blizzard games.

Better send this to Rich Campbell and Asmongold then.

oh comon she might be the 1

Red Shirt guy would be waiting! for that hahahaha

and Wudijo, Raxx whether they is going f2p or not they are is still supporting it.

we are a really small portion of the players for Immortal, if you think we (and Preach) not playing it will make any difference you are so wrong. To be clear, yes Preach do what it's consider the right thing but his choice will only affect his family and some people on his community) I get what asmongold tries to do, he try to make it as ridiculously disguting for how much you can pay in it that i will make it to the big TV news headline, get to the regular large market Diablo Immortal is made for and the politics will hopefully act on it. Can you blame him for doing it another way ? Asmongold allready tried to fight off mtx in game for years (store mounts on a game you allready pay monthly+game+xpacs) and he surely knows it didnt paid off. This is a long shot yes but if you look closely, he make fun of mtx all along his diablo streams so no shot somebody will get to mtx watching him imo.

@@frankmario6747 No you're wrong. Streamers are influencers. You clealry talk shit

@@frankmario6747 I dont blame him, i actually thinks its good to see how fucked it really is!! Its disgusting and when we see his $ go up each day on the game thats when you go fuckkkkk!! i hope he can make a case on it this shit is preying on mentally unstable people, addiction gambling its even worse than a slot machine!!

So far I heard it's part of his plan in order to bring it with Ted Cruz. Just what I heard

You mean netease, like yes tencent isnt the best but they aint fking netease, at least give them that.

@@godrunner6979 to me all scum companies blur into one

Yep, I already hate the battle passes because of the time limit + grind for getting something you paid for. This is even worse.

Well I don't have kids but I DO have a pone so....

I live in a country with free education, so I can spend my $100k on Diablo Immortal. Yay!

@@Skabbe1 Just as "free" as your healthcare, I imagine.

@@Skabbe1 yes free free free except literally nothing is free lol

I played for a few hours yesterday. Reflexes are negligible. If you step far away enough from a boss they just stop doing anything...

@@thatguy-dh1qh **woosh.

@@Shiirow oh I got the joke. I just wanted to point out how crappily tuned the bosses are also

still there as far as i know

@@ImWobbly Yea.

I am sorry, what? Is this to enforce China's daily play time restrictions?

@@SporeTres Theoretically, yes. But it somehow made it into the Western release. It got pointed out on Twitter last week, and Bellular and Matt talked about it on last week's Friday vod. Facial recognition logging and location tracking software were embedded in the pre-release version.

@@SporeTres that, and devs apparently said there was going to be a feature where your character copies your expression but that was axed

Wait, what's wrong with the Witch Doctor class and the Chinese market? I'd have thought Necro would have a bigger problem, since there's some weird laws in China about censoring skeletons.

@@sousuzumi Removing dark skinned characters, marginalizing their importance, or simply just changing the color of their skin to a lighter color happens all the time in China. It's just plain old racism.

Yeah I ain't into wokeness but this post is correct. They bend over backwards for China and have removed black characters from star wars and more specifically for them

you’d have to know mandarin tho

D3.5, now with MTX and Cain. /s

literally me, just playing old games. fuck this new shit.

Haha yeah I've been revisiting loads of old games and appreciating the quality. Sadly gaming is wasteful and unproductive so it'd be better for all of us if we stopped.

That'll be 50 quid mate

@@taldir5228 please don't be like that...

@@sagarro5291 sorry got immersed in blizzard mindset 😅

That’s what makes me laugh about these shite titles. I wonder what their “minimum required profitability” is lol

Well, not only will the servers not be here in 10 years, but I guarantee the game won't be the same goals as they are on launch. They'll introduce new, better gems, or a different system that Ascends your gear after you've 'maxed' it out. Just when you have spent that $110K, something new will be patched in that will either make your efforts pointless, or force you to grind even more on top of what's there now.

​@@corpsefoot758 There isn't a minimum required profitability. Publicly traded companies in the US are required by law to make things as profitable as possible. thus we are getting more and more things like this. Unless you could definitively prove in a court of law that not going all in with these kinds of "micro transactions" yields better results you're shit out of luck. As long as such monetization is legal it'll just be more and more prevalent.

Punishing grey raven is really good and underrated gameplay is great it's like genshin impact an arpg gatcha gamebut the combat is like a mix of that with I would say devil may cry in terms of flow the story is interesting and Banner system is guaranteed in 60 pulls or 6 ten pulls in the characters banners

Oh come on. People can make decisions you do not need government enforcement on this. It's actually quite easy to end just don't play immortal lol. It's way too gray to actually outlaw properly and the government and megacorps will somehow reverse it to screw the consumer I guarantee you

Dude no child is playing Diablo immortal, it’s just pathetic boomers who are addicts or don’t care about money

Amen. Long live the scrappy underdogs lol

lord, I could see some company listing that as a box feature

Then they realized what everyone had, fragile egos.

So like, let's compare it with the standard in recent years, Genshin Impact. I still play that game, and I would say that it's p2w for sure, but I also know that the majority of content doesn't feel shitty to play if you don't p2w, and while you can miss characters if you don't pay, eventually you can actually pretty consistently get them while maaaybe paying 10-20 dollars a month. I think that if your game is enjoyable, you deserve a monetary reward for it. I do not believe that being PURE f2p is cool. So let's go to games like Diablo Immortal or my more recent experience with Lost Ark; These games make me feel like if I don't pay, I can't play. I won't get to raids or high end content before others do, I will be passed over for those who do pay and generally have higher gear levels, I will struggle to beat those of similar skill if they pay (Moreso in Diablo Immortal) and I will have less time overall to just enjoy the fun parts of the game unless I give up on progression entirely. In Lost Ark, I could barely keep up WHILE paying with those who had luck or more money. And on top of that, I had to grind all the goood damn time. I couldn't do anything else in my day if I wanted to enjoy high end content. It honestly doesn't help that Lost Ark in the west feels like half the actual game Korea and Russia has, but that's besides the point. It's only been 4-5 days since Diablo Immortal came out and I can already see the tell tale signs of an even WORSE experience. I'm concerned about the future of gaming, at least in the AAA scene. I know there will still be developers on all sides that care more about making fun, amazing experiences and profiting that way than throwing away their morals, but it still sucks that devs like Blizzard have fallen so far. Many people like to say that you just have to pay what you want. But if every game goes this route, gaming will be either unaffordable and depressing, or you'll be rich but ultimately hooked on to these games because you've spent too much money to quit.

@@narius_jaden215 nobody is saying companys shouldn't make money but they could easily make it cosmetics only and not charge $1000 for a set of digital armour that will be worth nothing in like 5 years when they release another game to shake people like piggy banks.Seemingly most of game companys and if you anything to go by... so have some gamers forgotten what the point of games are... TO HAVE FUN.. not a gambling problem not an investment opportunity, but you cant have fun with a chain and ball attached to your damn ankle in the form of pay to win dragging any progress unless you willingly spend hundreds more than you would pay for any other game or getting crushed in pvp for the same reasons.These gacha game titles are 99% utter garbage reskins of the same slot machine that are soaked in a bowl of the worst predatory marketing tactics just ever.There should never be an excuse for not seeking for things to be better just because something fucked up has been allowed beforehand doesn't mean you should just let it keep happening when you know its fucked up.

Overwatch loot boxes were not that bad and we got free ones now and then. It was all cosmetic.

@@minuette1752 And it legitimized "the lootbox" as a thing in AAA pay to play games. "Not that bad" is still a far cry from good and it paved the way for predatory monetization as we know it today.

real money auction house was kinda cool in concept at least, it just doesn't work for a game like diablo

@@minuette1752 They were bad in that they were random in terms of rewards, they were not pay to win but their design was to make people pay to roll the dice for new skins. That's still gambling and that's still awful.

@@timokampwerth1996 many, MANY games did this in much more predatory ways before overwatch had them- and the Overwatch lootboxes are the least predatory ones I can even imagine existing. Everything is cosmetic with no power gains, they can be earned relatively easily just by playing the game, and duplicate items give you currency to buy specific items you want. the only time they're annoying is event lootboxes, since you can't buy event stuff with coins except while the event is running. While I would certainly prefer playing to just earn you the currency directly instead of even having lootboxes, if you're going to have them it's the least bad they can be.

It's actually free if you want to play it!!!! And as long as your ego isn't so fragile that you feel the need to spend money to "compete" with others, you may find yourself enjoying it. Personally, I play it on the toilet when I'm taking a shit.

Yeah but PoE doesn't have p2w bs outside of stash tabs that are a one time purchase (So I count it more as buying the full game after an extremely extensive, fully featured demo). If all F2P and mobile games monetized with expensive cosmetics, I wouldn't giiiive a shiiiiiit. That's totally fine with me. I don't regret my purchases in those kinds of games. They're still there to use and won't be outdated by a patch putting in new gear.

They made $1 from me.

Have you played literally any other mobile game in the last 10 years? This type of monetization is not new, and it WORKS. Genshin, Raid shadow legends, Candy crush, clash of clans, farmville, and hundreds more, all use similar monetization. This just seems worse cuz its a popular PC title that suddenly went mobile and is trying to get a piece of the action.

*Blizzard Execs:* _Write that down, write that down!_

Genius, block chain that 5-star legendary gems!

"Soulless cash grab trash" So just like every other mobile game out there right now?

That’s how free-to-play works. They give out the product for free, so they have to make it feels like the first dose of heroin to lure payers to pay for maintain of servers and development. It’s exploitive, but there’s no choice, they need to make money somehow. Also Lost Ark is not a JRPG, which is slow and focus heavily on story. Korean MMO aesthetics have existed for over 2 decades, while its gameplay is top down action RPG. There’s nothing JRPG about it.