Predator 212cc Stage 1 With Dyno Results ~ The Road to Horsepower Ep1

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Today is the very first episode of The Road to Horsepower!!! In this episode we test a stock Predator 212cc Hemi engine stock vs stage 1. Stage one consist of a new carb jet, air filter adapter, air filter, and exhaust. We test it on a mini bike and on the dyno. Check out the links below and like, comment, and subscribe to keep this series coming!!!
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@TheShepard5348 Год назад

Loud pipes save life's --- Jesus Christ saves soul's --- but ------------ mufflers make horse power. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

@jeanlawson9133 Год назад

AIN'T IT JUST AIN'T IT 😎

@fish_R_stinky69 Год назад

@@thehemiolds455 False. If you make the straight pipe longer, it will make MORE power than the muffler.

@RC_Trailblazers Год назад

Back pressure and exhaust scavenging are real things. Having a little bit of back pressure in either a longer pipe or even in this case a muffler causes a small vacuum between the strokes in the pipe and head when the exhaust valve opens and the exhaust gasses are forced out. That little vacuum helps pull more of the burnt gasses from the cylinder head allowing the next combustion cycle to burn cleaner and make more power since there is more clean air and less burnt air if you will. To much back pressure can hurt performance though too. Hence why millions of dollars go into R&D when building a high performance engine.

@Spacecruizer203 Год назад

My bike is faster when I add the wd40 homemade can on but with the 3stage from go powersports go on get u a d battery maglight hollow it out pop it on and man u will have alot more deeper power then I messed around at the electric department at home depot scored me a trumpet attachment from the light lamp section it really makes it faster now too on the cheap

@fish_R_stinky69 Год назад

@@jeanlawson9133 Mufflers don't make horsepower.

@mikesbarn1858 Год назад

The whole concept is awesome. Helps everyone decide how far they want to go. This may be your best series yet.

@lizzard7473 Год назад

The world needed this. Thank you for this build.

@RedBeardsGarage Год назад

Thank you for watching!

@chickenlittle5916 Год назад

Amen

@warpedangel20 Год назад

This will be the true game changer. I won't be able to get enough of this.

@johnmattinson3513 Год назад

You should make a score board like the British top gear used to do but with hp numbers instead of lap times. You should include engine cost and stage. Like first would be, stock 212 $129 6.5 hp, Then 212 stage one $200 9 hp. You could add to it every episode.

@RedBeardsGarage Год назад

I will do that sir. Thanks for the idea. Ill give you a shout out when we do that!

@cupwalker24.7 Год назад

Harbor freight has kept a ton of lady's and gentleman on the track and on the road for many years !! And that deserves more than tons of respect.... Without these engines alot of people's dreams would not be able to be accomplished in life .

@billbalke7572 Год назад

I love what you do !!! Saves alot of us from the expensive mistakes and helps us get it right the first time. Thanks to your sponsors for helping you out ...

@chipbruner2412 Год назад

Excellent job RB and crew! Awesome way to start a series!

@RedBeardsGarage Год назад

Thank you for supporting!

@TheFastKart Год назад

Awesome! Finally, we've got a guy that's providing the straight-up no bull scoop on what works and what doesn’t. Thank you RB and thank you Aimsoil for making it possible. Can't wait for more of this!

@devivoman Год назад

For sure this needed to happen, you have been showing a true talent with your build and fabrication quality on RU-vid for some time now, I'm glad that you will be delivering this content. Thank you for bringing it to us.

@michealarburn9861 Год назад

It's the most fantastic idea for a series ever! I didn't have four wheelers or dirt bikes growing up I was fortunate enough to have a pile of yard carts. I always built traded and swapped trying to squeeze more power from them. It will be amazing to see the before and after results of all the types of stuff I used to do. I will be here for every one of these.

@Thorbrook Год назад

That's awesome. Can't wait for the next one. It's definitely my new fav series

@danf4616 Год назад

Stage 1 Speed Gains are actually: 0 - 35 ---> 20.1%, 0 - 39 ---> 33.5% Still pretty darn good! 👍👍

@donduck6195 Год назад

Yes yes yes!!! This is what I've been waiting for. I know you're going to be doing lots of other Dyno tuning, but if you are taking requests... I would love to see a dyno shootout between a gx390, predator 420, Duramax 440, and predator 459. Stock / stage 1 for all of them. I would love to know if the Honda is underpowered and if the Duramax makes their claimed HP etc. Keep up the badass videos

@miketee2444 Год назад

This is a fairly simple idea that I'm sure many have wondered the answers to. Many have wondered that actually had the equipment and means to find answers. You are just the one that took the time to plan the tests and gather what is needed to get data. Thanks, it's not a lazy man's game for sure. I always knew y'all had it going in the right direction.

@devenbelanger8463 Год назад

I love this series. Great work. Educational and informative.

@jasongrinnell1986 Год назад

Wow! What a game changer. Love seeing the results with the modified parts.

@DangOldHillBilly Год назад

GOOD STUFF. Can not wait to see the Predator 224. Excellent job guys.

@troysmoliak4924 Год назад

I would just like to say Merry Christmas and a Happy New Years to you red beard and your family I really don't hope you're having a good one God bless and amen to all of you my respect from Canada. Oh yeah I almost forgot Lonnie Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year's to you and your family as well.

@JCTEAM60 Год назад

This series is going to be awesome. Great idea to show what effects these actual upgrades have.

@Logic44 17 дней назад

11:07 That dyno recreated the downhill pops almost perfectly lol

@seansysig Год назад

RBG awesome series! Can’t wait for next video in he series.

@charlesgraham9954 Год назад

sweet.! iv been waiting for a channel to do this, I'm glad its u RBG.

@SRT-Dani Год назад

Can’t wait for the 224 dyno run

@james10739 Год назад

I didn't expect that much of a difference

@kinotransam Год назад

That A/F Ratio sensor would really improve your tuning capabilities to get the max power. If the 17.7 AFR that was displayed is what that engine was actually producing, it's entirely way too lean. Most naturally aspirated engines like to be between 12-13.5 AFR. General rule of thumb is the right timing for torque, and the right AFR for horsepower, but both tuning aspects effect both parameters in different ways.

@morgunfreedom4346 Год назад

Going to be a great series... How about flathead briggs up on there

@RedBeardsGarage Год назад

We will be doing that soon sir. Thanks for watching!

@Goblingimp Год назад

just wanted to say i love your channel every video is so clean and professional

@shark11175 Год назад

Beautiful Editing and Video!

@DanielTD2 Год назад

Awesome video, can’t wait to see the full build!

@ericmorgan7657 Год назад

This is so awesome,Thank You!!!!......I pray you do a wildcat 223.

@jessiemckinney1104 Год назад

Love the videos

@lloydbaker7099 Год назад

Great addition to the channel

@sethgarrett1994 Год назад

Love what you're doing brother I'm glad to see you guys doing this the right way with a good reliable dyno

@josephschmier3733 Год назад

I love this stuff and the way your doing it. I would love to see preditor Goast vs tillison stage 1

@CastleBravo187 Год назад

I've got a Pred 212cc sitting new in the box in my garage, I'm looking forward to this series!!!

@clayhunna7357 Год назад

Great series look forward to seeing the figures on a big block. thnx RBG an team

@jwish29 Год назад

Very excited for this series. Maybe only show one of the dyno runs from each variation though? Seemed to drag on seeing the entire pull of each run.

@michaelnelson7305 Год назад

One thing to consider is A/F ratio, keeping it consistent after each change will give better results. After removing the muffler, the engine may have been too lean to make power....

@fish_R_stinky69 Год назад

Then it'll make LOADS more power when you rejet it.

@OGTtom Год назад

Great information Greg , thank you , will definitely watch the next video .

@brianking1138 Год назад

Great video. I am looking forward to the rest of them.

@sfeather7088 Год назад

Really Fun Too Watch!

@igokarts4510 Год назад

Had to pop some popcorn for this one.

@jeffreypowell3427 Год назад

Enjoyed the video, and thanks for investing in the dyno, it’s good to finally be able to see some numbers on these parts.

@RedBeardsGarage Год назад

Big thanks to Mark for the dyno. Its a game changer for sure.

@jonathanzimmerman2976 Год назад

I can't wait till you get everything possible done to it and see the numbers enjoy your show Merry Christmas and God bless

@downtoearthconstruction7768 Год назад

Well as Martha Steward would say about the muffler removal, “Back Pressure, It’s a Good Thing” 😆

@RedBeardsGarage Год назад

Thats what a muffler shop has told me for years. Guess they was right!

@a1racer441 Год назад

I liked this shows a very clear with numbers and real world test before and after.

@montanasoftware5954 Год назад

Awesome video! Please do this with a Briggs 627 vanguard 23hp engine. Thanks!

@daevincaldwell3201 Год назад

I’m getting into this small engine world coming from v8 mustang engines. This series is matching exactly what I will be doing through these next few months. I’ll be stopping at stage 3 with a non-hemi 212 similar to your “billet everything” video you’ve posted before. Can’t wait to see the results! I’ll be subscribed and watching all of them!

@kainthepain7126 Год назад

Love this series can't want for the next

@jonsiglar2505 Год назад

Great idea and series.

@laynelommen9460 Год назад

Thx alot red beard. Great video.

@yoster77 Год назад

This series is great!

@RedBeardsGarage Год назад

Thanks for watching!

@051570orion Год назад

I like all the videos you do but these tutorial/instructional videos are really good

@cjsexton5380 Год назад

Ya this is the best video for the small engine community in awhile

@lungsup Год назад

This will be like Richard Holdener's videos proving what works and what doesn't. Useful beyond description.

@tommybally03 Год назад

Finally a no BS way to see what each modification does! Absolutely what we (your viewers) wanted! I would ask the you please consider running a test tube (exhaust with bung and wide band 02 sensor) to keep an eye on the air to fuel ratio. There by ensuring that each fuel mod isn’t adding too much or too little fuel. If you’re interested in doing so I might have an new extra wide band and gauge squirreled away in my garage.

@Charles-bj7qu 7 месяцев назад

I do appreciate everything you do.

@CODOutdoors Год назад

It is awesome to see the real results, thanks for sharing!

@justinvanburen8259 3 месяца назад

Another great video!!!

@jessebrowne5243 Год назад

Validated my theory on my fun cart, awesome vidja!

@CodyPowell-oe4pj Год назад

ive been waiting for a series of videos like this to come out. simple concept but very good idea considering ive yet to see anyone els try to cover it. RBG is the shiii so ill be lookin forward to the next

@davidperryman1759 Год назад

I love this series… I’ve always wondered just what performance differences there are with each stage of performance mods! Thanks guys, y’all are great! Keep up the good work

@davidperryman1759 Год назад

I don’t have telegram

@ryanswiggart7553 Год назад

Got in an argument with the tech barn last weekend when they claimed no mufflers make more power. Thanks for proving me right!

@andyb9994 Год назад

Great vid glad to see you got a dyno, we use these engines on race Karts, and this is super helpful info... Thanks!!!💯

@gregswafford9839 Год назад

Great video, look forward to upcoming videos showing progress on these builds. Real world numbers never lie, thanks for sharing the info. This makes me want to ditch my shorty header and try a longer header pipe.

@jimciancio9005 Год назад

Awesome tool my man! Thanks for someone finally doing something like this with actual numbers to back up the claims! And let me know when you have a Dyno capable of handling a Briggs Vanguard 570 fully modified billet, chrome-moly and roller everything inside and out, oh and its also superchargerd via a Eaton belt driven supercharger. I'd be afraid of it breaking your new machine there!?!? Lol! Believe it makes somewhere up in the triple digits if not right at them? But definitely worth the time and effort to make these videos to show the differences between the modified engines and how they change its characteristics and performance levels. Where you may gain power you may lose torque and this will be really interesting to see how it goes with a billet flywheel??? I believe the one on the Vanguard was something stupid weight wise difference? Like almost 20lbs down to a 7+lb flywheel. It was worth the money to get one of the ARC billet wheels when you're acceleration more than quadruples off idle!

@3dconceptsofutah757 Год назад

Thanks Red Beard! Great to see the data! Like you mentioned, it's hard to quantify stuff just by feel. Cheers mate!

@lloydbaker7099 Год назад

Love the upgrades

@delandbrooks3291 Год назад

This makes the mods comparable. I want to see this same testing done against a Ghost.

@RedBeardsGarage Год назад

We will in an upcoming video.

@DOITALLMFER Год назад

Ok I’ll subscribe now hahahaa. Let’s get it man these dyno videos are gonna be the best thing out.. please pump em out man thanks.

@BradVentureAZ Год назад

i love the comparison video !!!

@TheFastKart Год назад

@redbeards garage - Lets prove its the timing causing the torque loss by putting an offset key in to retard the timing 4 degrees. We all need to see this in action to be sure we know what works and what doesn't. Thank you for a great series of videos!

@trumpfancardanostakepool4737 Год назад

This is awesome. Nice to finally see the hp changes.

@sammylisasmith2104 Год назад

Great video bud can't wait for the next one 👍

@thewildernessfactor2667 Год назад

Love the vid I’ve done lots of big bore kits and stroker cranks on the gy6 engines, now I’m looking forward building my 212 on my go kart now because of you

@RedBeardsGarage Год назад

We have everything you can think of coming. Stay tuned and thanks for watching!!!

@jacksonboone8396 Год назад

Love your work.

@edwardrivera3031 Год назад

Love that kind of video!!

@NatashaB Год назад

Love this. Would also love to see similar rundown for a 420 in the future!

@joshivy7792 Год назад

Great content perfect execution

@ricardomelo4097 Год назад

Congratulations.... Do this with 420cc engine...

@notimegarage8632 Год назад

This is so awesome!

@dirtfootracing8788 Год назад

Great Info....keep it up !

@Konnersaki 9 месяцев назад

Wow this is an awesome video even have the tools step by step at the bottom I will definitely be back to install the stage 1 on my 212 swapped ct100 👍

@kirkclegg5960 Год назад

I have plans to build one of these soon. This will be so very helpful!!!

@rustybeatty6567 Год назад

The first upgrade to any engine is the spark plug and that spark plug should always be a E3 spark plug then do the stage 1 performance upgrade then add a thinner head gasket for increased compression.

@mavericknonconformist69721 Год назад

Nice!

@406life Год назад

Just bought a 224 predator lol,you just earned a sub,great stuff

@BunkerBlog Год назад

I want to see this series but with a big block like the Duromax 440cc.

@clivecole1290 Год назад

Excellent, you cant beat empirical data, well done

@LordFred69 Год назад

just bought a 224 cc so appreciate this video

@im_ur_huckleberry8998 Год назад

Great video brother!!

@RedBeardsGarage Год назад

Thank you sir.

@Singh_1989 Год назад

I have a request that you test a home made performance parts for those who like to make cheap horsepower. Edit: A great option for diy horsepower would be an old Briggs flathead engine. Do some porting and polishing, a 3hp flywheel, a coke can as a head gasket, and some other stuff like that

@RedBeardsGarage Год назад

We will be doing stuff like this soon sir. Thanks for watching!

@jonathenholmes1882 Год назад

Loved it 👍👍

@marvicty Год назад

This dyno is a game changer plus Lonnie in the vids is always a good thing

@lifeisabeech941 Год назад

Love the idea for the magnetic dipstick def gonna pick one of those puppies up

@rollinwithrobbie Год назад

I hope you do a stock muffler shoot out. Maybe a semi built 212 testing the stock 212 and 224 mufflers... i am trying to make a lil more power with my 212 generator.

@bbaaspencer1 10 месяцев назад

That dyno is a game changer!

@jitsnydzer6302 Год назад

The next episode is the one I want to see. When you add a flywheel to a 212 it becomes FAR more expensive than a modded gy6, I'm curious to see how much that extra money will net you with ~40cc more displacement. Can a 2x more expensive 212 setup top the extremely cost effective gy6 lol