Probably one of the most incredible sounding "bang for the buck" combi ideas in a long time. It reminds me of stuff that I heard from synths like the Rhodes Chroma, the Roland JX-10/MKS-70 or even the Oberheim Matrix-12/Xpander.
I struggled for a week to decide which new synth from Behringer I was going to buy. I listened and read a lot about the monopoly, ms-5 and the pro-800. I´m really happy that I bought the Pro-800, it´s a total no-brainer synth for under 500 euro! After I have learned the synth I will buy a second one and have 16 polyphony monster synth with an incredible stereoimage for a total of around 900 euros. That is unheard of!!! Such a bargain, other synth companies struggles to release synths with this much features or they are just ripping us off.
HOLY COW!!!! I have an alert here in the States, to let me know when they're in stock.... after hearing this I just might need to buy two of them :) Sub'd
Oh no, not another notification.. What is it this time? Aww, it's Pete Midi!! Yeah!! Good to see you Pete!! It's sounds unreal!! Amazing track!! Thank you!!
I just got the idea today on pairing 2 Pro-800's and it looks like I had an excellent idea. I just gotta buy one more to get the show on the road. Great video with lots of good tips Pete! I'm new so subscribing NOW!
Great sounding 16 voices analog for less than 800E. is a mind blowing thing: it would be nice if you would make a sort of "how to" tutorial, because is not clear if the Pro 800 manual teaches this procedure.Thanks.
Remember the DX/TX models had midi overflow so you could daisy chain them together for 32voice polyphony. Would be an excelent idear for such a fairly cheap synth
Another chaining method could be using a device that splits the MIDI stream by odd/even numbered MIDI notes. Even notes (C whole-tone scale) go to MIDI Channel 1 and odd notes (C# whole-tone scale) go to channel 2. So the Pro-800s would be set to MIDI channel 1 and 2 respectively, The Yamaha MEP4 has this function as an example.
Check out the vid of Daniel Fisher running two in unison in stereo, each one playing the same thing but the random analogue differences create a sweet stereo width and richness.
I'm thinking it might be possible to get a similar stereo effect by splitting the output into two cables, run one into a delay (with a short delay) and the dry signal into your DAW. Or you could use delay similarly configured in a DAW.
I was pretty sure I would be getting 2 of these and this demo confirms it. Ping pong voice spread is one reason while stacking very similar patches is another. Particularly panned LR with repeating offset modulation on the cutoff. My guess is (you could confirm this) the LFO global and free running instead of per voice w/gate reset. As such there would be phase offset between two units which is the desired state.
@@PeteMidi yup, gonna need 2. I can see myself bringing in an LFO through an enveloped VCA to one and the inverse to the other with the VCF CV input as well.
hey Pete, have copy this and it sounds amazing in real stereo, even without effects. both set to the same midi channel, for playing an receiving program change 😎but i find it more interesting to stop receiving midi ccs for adjusting parameters independently! Amazing stereo synth wall 😊 a
dont regret. the rev 2 is much more versatile. keep both. they compliment each other well. besides, the rev 2 can do binaural as well. I've both and they're very different beasts. both excellent
@@specialistsound Thanks - ahh was more a price thing, I'll be sticking with the rev2 for sure - has some space to grow into. If I get a hankering something complimentary - good to know this is quite a viable and affordable option
Great sounds and setup! - hopefully they add polychaining via the firmware one day Pete. Better would be to let it fit in one box, but that will be difficult because of potential heat issues we think...
this is a very nice approach to solving the pan mod, plus you get 16 voices. The issue I have is if you're not playing chords, you get a very reactive pan focus, with each key strike. These are $699 here, 2 would be close to the of better synths, I just wished they had the pan mod which would solve having to buy 2. I would pay an extra $100 to see this happen too.
@@PeteMidi this is true but I paid 1K for my DM12D which is why I posted what I did. I know Behringer can make analogs stereo, just on this occasion, well knowingly it came with the GliGli mod and pan retro fit, that they should have thought abt doing it.
You’re just a Joy to watch and to listen to, Pete! I want a Novation Summit SO BADLY. I feel like the inter-cranial [resonance] depth knob I had implanted is set to “11” and…it’s a job to access the knob for adjustments. My point: and other times I reflect on how far $1750 (preowned Summit) would go on Behringer: 2 Pro 800s, the Poly-D….and more! Of course, Summit has ❤Many Mini Many trips up its sleeves and some killer FX, etc. My more immediate Wish is that YOU would pick up a Jew MiniMonsta2 16 Voice (for $300) and/or 8 Voice Bitimbral and put THAT through you Science Laboratory!
@@PeteMidi it’s a beast, you’re correct. I personally think it smokes the polybrute, for example-in tech AND [gorgeous] Sonics). I should repent, be a more modest human and desire a PEAK instead.
hi. could you please offer a guide on how to sync both units in a DAW? such as cubase, logic, ableton or whatever. As though they're 1 synth? no probs if not. very impressive demo btw
Very nice soundscape! I just received my Pro 800 today, and already am thinking of getting a second to create a 16 voice stereo polyphonic as you did. What is the name of the app you used to manage the voice allocation? Thanks!
@@PeteMidi Thanks, I downloaded the app. I take it you used the preset Channel Randomizer as the starting point to create your own alternating stereo voice allocation script? I used Polythemus to chain multiple analog mono synths in order to create a poly synth. That was fairly easy, but it can only go up to 8 voices max. Mozaic looks much more powerful, and it will take more work to create a 16 voice poly. Any tips?
Imagine you are floating on a cloud, time has slowed down. Glimpses of the 70s and 80s poke their head through the space-time continuum... oops, sorry, back from the world of dreams. Very meditative music though.
Depends, after digital synths and samplers came on the scene, people thought analog was obsolete. I shoulda picked up the Jupiter 8 that I saw for $600 bucks. My $99 six~trak just isn’t the same.
Thanks for this great video! Out of interest, how would you compare this to the Dreadbox Nymphes? What would you say? Are there relative merits and demerits, and most importantly, how does this sound of each voice compare? Any comments very welcome.
@@PeteMidi Thank you so much for your rapid reply. The thing that put me off the Dreadbox Nymphes was the lack of any form of display, combined with far too many functions per knob in my opinion, making the whole thing appear very unintuitive. And one could argue that one of the benefits of hardware synthesisers can be in the ability to intuitively change the sound during a performance. Whilst I think this is possible on the Nymphes, I think it’s a long way from intuitive.
First one just arrived, so nobody is getting anything useful out of me today. If you change a parameter on the slaved unit, does it 'snap' back to the master if you change something or maintain the offset?
Missed this when it came out. Awesome video. Think you will keep both? Keeping the Pro-1 or too much overlap (isn't the pro-1 still more punchy for bass/leads after they fixed the 800 envelopes)?
