Pro Nuzlocker Reacts To "Can You Beat Pokemon Platinum Without Taking Damage" 

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Whoooaaaaaaaaaa it's the cool guy

I've been noticed 🥺🥺🥺

SmallAnt you need a break from these stupid challenges

Yo dawg, I heard he loves you!

Tbh i don't think that chimchar is worth starting with due too it being so hard too get out no hit

He wouldn't have gotten past the first rival battle for a long time if he chose Chimchar, because Piplup has growl, which makes you deal less damage, and it also has 100% accuracy, so he was even wrong in saying that he should use Chimchar.

@@imjustryley2197 I think what he meant to say was that even though the rival battle wouldve been longer the subsequent battles wouldve required less time because of Infernape.

A bit annoying but not wrong. Still, hoping for like 8 turns of misses or status moves is insane.

@@imjustryley2197 I mean, whats better? Spending 3 hours on a turtwig, only to be delayed 8 hours later in the game by grinding up your pokemon? or spending 5 hours on a chimchar and only having to train up like 2 extra hours? Its like saying you can earn 5 million $ now and get 5.000$ every single month for the rest of your life, or earn 1 million$ right now, but earn 50.000$ every single month for the rest of your life. Which would you pick? On the short term, the first option is very appealing, but the second option is by far the best option on long term.

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Yeah thanks for crunching the numbers, watching this was annoying every time he’d smugly say “Shoulda picked chimchar” Smallant is very smart and knows what he doing lmao. If he thought the longer rival battle at the start was worth it he would’ve done it.

I think he does everything from title load screen since he doesnt get a save pre first gym, hed have to do cut scenes if im not mistaken. I think poke challenges didnt know about the rules as clearly as he thought.

so, the answer to 2:56 is yes. also, if you actually look at the timer, it actually took smallant about a minute between attempts, meaning it would actually take over 300 hours to get past the rival battle. in other words, just take the turtle and dont ask questions.

yeah I dont think that PC accounted for the fact that each turn that you successfully didn't take damage, you would be losing attack so every crit would deal less and less damage

Damage is damage

The crit was just mental damage

Nobody bothered to check if your math was correct

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Smallant1:I'm not trying to waste my life away

It was funny, admit it.

Who's SmallAnt1?I only know SmallAnt.

as we say in Brazil, "pepper on someone else's butt is a refreshment for some"

This guy: *C H I M C H A R*

Me too lmao

Shiny Pokémon are bad for speed runs

@@bishop_breloom why?

@@adrianabarrantes1059 shiny animation adds time

Adriana Barrantes encountering them adds more frames and more frames means more time to your final time. I think.

He's doing a Speedrun so he doesn't want a time waster like a shiny. The animation takes more time

@@estebanvelazquez353 this isnt a speedrun he just put the timer there so youtube knows how long it is, but if theres a speedrun category for this then i want to see it

SmallAnt actually explained that it was too risky to throw a Poke Ball since he didn't have access to the Net Ball to catch Buizel easily, so he decided to kill it since he didn't want to risk it, still hurts to watch a little tho lol

It was too risky, he just spent a ton of time to train, and if he didn’t catch it, he would need to spend even more time

@@estebanvelazquez353no, it’s because he’d already done heaps of grinding since a gym so catching it would be very risky if it failed and he got attacked

Xcom and Fire Emblem agree.

If it’s not 100% accurate, it’s 50% accurate. MandJTV - All the time

And 30% accuracy sheer cold feels like 100%

@@NormalWeeb. Only if the AI uses it

Now im asking how my sleep powder never misses

I would watch for sure

That would be epic. And he can try to beat SmallAnt’s time of 39 hours

He really should!

As long as PC resets the entire game instead of the latest gym if he takes damage ;)

No

Ikr

@@erfegxD I want to do B2/W2 no damage. I also did a run in Pearl (I want to do plat. and Gen 5 status only run)

@@darrellwillis4871 B2/W2 is hard i havent even beated it i only reached the elite four so gl with your run

@@erfegxD I think I'm gonna either start with oshawott or tepig. Water for aqua jet or fire for arm thrust to break sturdy users. If oshawott, get riolu because Lucario is a good fighting type that probably gets a multi-hit. They're also early game.

@@darrellwillis4871 oshawott is decent just catch a riolu train it up until it learns force palm its only a few levels up and then crush cheren and sandile is great too when you get to nimbasa city catch one asap they are good for the elite four catch one with the ability "moxie" its very useful since krookodile is good for sweeping teams

I’m honestly sick of this new RU-vid trend of someone dumping hours into a video and then other youtubers watching it and leeching views off of it

Im not much of a pokemon player whats the difference?

@@AlightBlaze If a move has a listed accuracy of "100%" it can still miss if the user's accuracy stat is lowered (e.g. by getting hit by Sand Attack) or if the target's evasion is raised (e.g. by using Double Team or being in Hail with Snow Cloak) but a move that "bypasses the accuracy check", like Aerial Ace or Blizzard in Hail, will ignore the user's accuracy and the target's evasion and hit regardless.

@@Gallentecitizen1 ah thank you

@@billybobbobson3797 New? Pal, reactions have been a thing for a long, long time

Floatzel yes, but not necessarily Staraptor, at least for Fantina, you could train Floatzel to outshot Duskull

@acemerceramv8561 true enough, if one wanted to get a chimchar run off the ground, then that would be an option.

Imagine not being the definition of a ZA WARUDO TURTLE. This post was made by the Turtwig Gang.

I don't wanna die.

I don’t know that I have enough water

had to go get my stomach pumped

Hate me if you want, but it's "Should've"

We love seeing him suffer with his challenges

Awesome pfp btw

Maybe moves like Roar, Baton Pass, and U-turn would have to be implemented just for a decent chance

I guess you could get a Shedinja (if that's even possible in DPPt) and use that as a safe switch to most moves, then sweep dark, fire, flying and rock types directly.

You'd have to tryhard with pivoting to pokemon who aren't affected by whichever move you bait out

@@boianko shedinja is not available until post game

God but he's so boring in his nuzlock videos smallant keeps my small goober brain stimulated

@@siren6245 idk man, he is just super chill and I really apreciate that specially nowadays when everything is way too exagerated.

@@mendia43 to be fair I'm kinda retarded I pretty much only watch paymoneywubby because of it

Yeah he is the only nuzlocker who play difficult rom hacks with set mode + no item in battle + no overlevelling. There is marilland but he does not play any hard rom hacks.

@@ezio934 Doesn't Mr Ding Dong Games do that as well?

it was in reference to turtwig being picked to save time whereas chimchar would have saved more overall time on the run

@@joegod9488 yeah spending 42 hours for 1 try instead of 16 minutes would save more time

i'd also factor in not wanting to spend his whole life doing the run. In theory he could reset every fight until a quick attack crit on a speed tie is how he wins, but smallant doesn't because a million resets doesn't seem fun. also the chimchar thing definitely seems like it just became a meme in his stream during this.

@@joegod9488 he’s just wrong tho. Someone did the calculations and it’d take 48 hours in the best case scenario if you picked chimchar to get thru the first battle alone. That’s longer than what small ant spent actually playing the entire run. Not to mention that small ant didn’t allow saves until after he beat the gym, and the first gym would be really hard with chimchar

@@joegod9488 No it wouldnt. u gonna be at the first battle for about 300h. even speed up thats no time save

Turtwig learns a defense raising move, which makes it take longer to kill, which increases the chance Piplup will get hit

Crit ignores with defense boost and attack drops so the odd is not as bad as you think

It’s not as bad as you think. The key is we need to leer until we can crit while needing piplup to growl. The reason for this is the chance for pilup to growl is 1/2, and the chance to crit is 1/16, which means leering into crit kill is always beneficial. We do not care about growl attack drop, since crit ignores attack drop. Since chimchar goes first, the math would be: 1/2 ^ (# num of lear) * 1/16 * (chance to OHKO) Worst case (-atk nature 0 atk iv chimchar and +def nature 31 iv piplup), we need to lear 5 times into crit to have a 30% chance to KO (0- Atk Chimchar Scratch vs. -5 0 HP / 0+ Def Piplup on a critical hit: 18-22 (85.7 - 104.7%) - 31.3% chance to OHKO ) which means piplup has to hit 5 growl so the chance is: 1/2 ^ 5 * 1/16 * 0.3 = 1/1536 And this is the WORST case scenario The average case should be: neutral nature with 15iv each and we need 4 lear into crit: 0 Atk Chimchar Scratch vs. -4 0 HP / 0 Def Piplup on a critical hit: 22-26 (104.7 - 123.8%) - guaranteed OHKO So piplup will growl 4 times => clear chance is (1/2)^4 * 1/16 = 1/256 which is not bad at all Best case scenario we get a chimchar with 31iv +atk nature and a piplup with 0hp 0def iv -def nature. Now we only need to lear twice to have to KO: 0+ Atk Chimchar Scratch vs. -2 0 HP / 0 -Def Piplup on a critical hit: 20-24 (100 - 120%) - guaranteed OHKO Which means piplup get to roll growl twice. Which brings the math to: 1/2 * 1/2 * 1/16 = 1/64 Remember that we can also check the chimchar’s stat so we can reroll for at least neutral nature and average attack iv

@@betonamu7514yes, a ridiculously lucky chance to roll a 1/64 huh? That isn’t accounting for the fact that small ant could miss catching starly and redo the rival fight AGAIN (like he did in the video)

@@doheonlee6703 infernape line has priority mach punch so u dont need quick attack from starly

What i didn't expect a Haikyuu comment in pc's comment section. Col

Nop, I did the same lol

Yah that was annoying lol, it would've taken much much longer to start

Especially because it was so objectively wrong. He would have spent longer on the first battle than he did on the entire run if he had picked chimchar

true..they should try this run with chimchar to prove their theory

Yeah, i got tired of it soon

Well, 2 different meaning

About 40 hours* if contents above are correct

Yea that tends to happen when you leave Pokémon in the daycare

i think he just made sure to never click brave bird

Making up*

It’s not as bad as you think. The key is we need to leer until we can crit while needing piplup to growl. The reason for this is the chance for pilup to growl is 1/2, and the chance to crit is 1/16, which means leering into crit kill is always beneficial. We do not care about growl attack drop, since crit ignores attack drop. Since chimchar goes first, the math would be: 1/2 ^ (# num of lear) * 1/16 * (chance to OHKO) Worst case (-atk nature 0 atk iv chimchar and +def nature 31 iv piplup), we need to lear 5 times into crit to have a 30% chance to KO (0- Atk Chimchar Scratch vs. -5 0 HP / 0+ Def Piplup on a critical hit: 18-22 (85.7 - 104.7%) - 31.3% chance to OHKO ) which means piplup has to hit 5 growl so the chance is: 1/2 ^ 5 * 1/16 * 0.3 = 1/1536 And this is the WORST case scenario The average case should be: neutral nature with 15iv each and we need 4 lear into crit: 0 Atk Chimchar Scratch vs. -4 0 HP / 0 Def Piplup on a critical hit: 22-26 (104.7 - 123.8%) - guaranteed OHKO So piplup will growl 4 times => clear chance is (1/2)^4 * 1/16 = 1/256 which is not bad at all Best case scenario we get a chimchar with 31iv +atk nature and a piplup with 0hp 0def iv -def nature. Now we only need to lear twice to have to KO: 0+ Atk Chimchar Scratch vs. -2 0 HP / 0 -Def Piplup on a critical hit: 20-24 (100 - 120%) - guaranteed OHKO Which means piplup get to roll growl twice. Which brings the math to: 1/2 * 1/2 * 1/16 = 1/64 Remember that we can also check the chimchar’s stat so we can reroll for at least neutral nature and average attack iv

@@andy-utop where

He didn’t tho

@@LoKing1337 Chimchar would take forever almost literally

Or just get some crits since they don’t care about stat changes

@@LoKing1337 trusting in crits is super inefficient

@@leonel392 that is why this run is a test of patience

Ok feetnix

that is basically what nuzlocks is

@@r3io4mf you usually take a hit or two every battle on a nuzlocke. I said no damage at all

@@ThePhantomKerbecs taking no damage is basically a nuzlocke but harder since nothing will faint if they take no damage

gamechamp3000 did one where he cant take damage and if he does he has to restart the run.... not the save... the entire run

@@diegolarrea7932 Sounds boring. I think they meant that, if a Pokémon takes damage, it's considered fainted. All other nuzlocke rules remain standard

gen 1 nonsense makes that run particularly good imo

It's also the video that made me discover Pikasprey, and I'll always thank it for that.

@@doohresarf321 y

It's fine it's pizza all pizza is good

I like pineapple on pizza ;-;

I like it.

You only say it's bad if you've never tried it, it's not bad

PINEAPPLE ON PIZZA IS A SIN!!! IT'S HERESY, I TELL YOU!!!!!

So how is progress comming?

did you win

Same lol

no pls

@@noname-tw4mm why?

@@leragefish4944 idk man, i watching ding dong for quite a long time but just dont want it to happen

@@noname-tw4mm no reason soooooo

AHHHH that’s the only reason I’m in this comment section it’s killing me, if you find out please hook a homie up and reply yo

I assume it's the same rich kids that ant talks about right after

@@rub8252 "the fastest way to do this is to fight the snoby rich kids"

He just cut it off bc SmallAnt was literally about to say the same thing

21:17 he curses just after a censored curse

It depends on the context for me. Someone like this giving an informative spin on things while also being entertaining (along with SmallAnt being entertaining as well) is a good combo. Some reactor yelling like a hyena at an LPer yelling like a hyena sucks. If you're coming into Sword/Shield from 1st gen of all things, first of all, welcome back! Second of all, this might as well be a whole new franchise now. The amount of stuff you have to adjust to is staggering.

@@ElbowDropMO so much stuff...

Bruh it's pokemon, there's nothing wrong to do. You choose a monster and mash 'A' till you win. Literally that's it. If you're going for competitive pokemon on showdown then you have to know stuff but if you just want to play the main game then there's pretty much nothing.

it will be more convincing if pronuzlocke try this challenge with chimcar..so far he havnt done that to prove his theory

The point of his video is to teach his viewers what to do in situations and certain techniques. All MandJtv did was watch it and added nothing to it. And also he is the best nuzlocker since no one is trying to take the crown from him

@@LoKing1337 he could try teaching his viewers things without being a jerk about it.

Yeah, after all, it is much easier to comment about it than do it yourself

He aint the smartest, just the loudest.

thats without crits. you only need two crits with chimchar and two growls with piplup. calculating without crits in a game with such high crit chance doesnt make sense

@@Fox_Olive yes but also take into account weakness policy, plus damage rolls, it would still take a lot longer. Also, you need more than 2 crits. I just did a rough calc, bro

I agree you should run this with chimchar but also with level caps. Overlevelling makes things easier.

@@ivHasty dude chimchar won't be able to pass first rival battle due to piplups growl

@@ivHasty without overlevelling it's literally impossible, what are you talking about?

Growl doesn’t matter if you just get some crits

​@snusmumriken7764 same applies for withdraw and you saw how long he tried with piplup, it would take even longer than that to actually beat the piplup with chimchar

Still he would not be able to pass the first battle

Small is a RU-vidr mate..it won't make sense if he doesn't.

We forgetting that Extremespeed exists? Or was that not Gen 4?

@@dylancross1039 Even that was just +1 in Generation IV.

He would need to crit 3x in a row while also getting growled lol

As somebody already told you, the rival battle would take longer but subsequent battles would go faster because of Infernape. Extra effort in the beginning for an easier run overall because... you know... Mach Punch and all that

@@dylancross1039 i mean the stuff that chimchar gives is also... You know done by starly and buizel. Thinking that you can get multiple crits more than 2x+consecutively plus 2x+ growls consecutively is wishful thinking.

So I found a comment by someone named emjer who actually calculated the odds, which shows that Turtwig is in the end the better option that Chimchar. His comment was a follows... "I decided to do the math on the odds of beating the first rival battle using chimchar, and the best odds seem to be 1/21065 for chimchar having 4 or more ivs in attack, an attack boosting nature, and getting double crits against a piplup with a negative defense nature using growl, which means an average of about 15000 resets to beat the first rival battle. Assuming each reset takes 10 seconds, that's about 41 hours worth of resetting, which is longer than smallant's entire run, so it doesn't seem like picking chimchar is really any faster than picking turtwig"

@@imjustryley2197 it's funny how the first battle would be slower than the whole run but people still say "it's only a small time lost"

Be prepared for Opals gym. She killed my nuzlocke the first time

how do you even nuzlocke swsh? the pokemon appear on the overworld

@@veeeter8402 ez first pokemon you see in the wild is the one u catch

This challenge is tedious as hell :v

Why the fuck would someone want to do this challenge?

did you know that monferno gets mach punch? thats so crazy isnt it /s

I legit lost my prinplup and staravia and walked out BARELY with my Pachirisu because of it knowing Charm XD

Funny though I walked out of the Mars fight loosing only my monferno 😂

@@SweetPeaPD Jojo the Monferno was over leveled due to me being scared of the first gym and that cause me to carelessly neglect my other mons as that was my first nuzlocke