In other news Vince's house partially collapsed under weight of a new paintset, the remainder of the house is only kept up by load bearing pots of vallejo paint and old paintbrushes.
Commenting on a very old video because I took the dive on ProAcryl and have been banging my head against them. I think this is very helpful to watch you use them, I’m on a wet palette and I find that each colour behaves pretty differently / I have to approach thinning very differently between each colour. The opacity is like 11/10, which has caused issues for me trying to glaze. I’ll keep practicing with them, but as you mention in the video - it really requires a shift.
Games Workshop raises prices for their paints, just a few hours later Vince uploads a video, in which he reviews a set of colors, that are not only better, but also cheaper than GW colors. Coincidence? Most likely, but it would be fun if that was his plan all along. Vince you little devil.
These are not cheaper than GW or any paint for that matter. They might just be the most expensive I've ever seen. But I think their webshop is doing some Europe discrimination behind the scenes.
@@LoftySkinner For the Pro Acryl Base Set 2.0, by my calculation it costs less than GW and give far more ml of paint per bottle. I am not sure what issue you're seeing.
Just started painting my first warhammer army and I took your advice and bought the entire line of Pro Acryl. Couldn't be happier with the purchase. The stuff is clearly high quality and is absolutely amazing to work with. I may be a beginner but my painting is miles ahead of where it would have been without this paint! Thanks for the review, it was super helpful!!
This is such a helpful video! I opted to dive in and buy the Pro Acryl base and Expansion 3 with a few metallics and primers when I invested in mini painting supplies this year. This has given me a little more insight into how to treat these paints. Thank you for this, Vince.
As a new painter you're bang on with how good these are for newbies. Can't say how frustrating it is to fight bad colours. Using them now and it's so nice to be able to rely on them. Means painting is less of a chore.
@@VinceVenturellaI really like the look of these plus Scale 75 and warcolours. Would you guys say that for a beginner that pro arcryl has a more simplified application process than the other 2? Or should I just go with what I like the look of? I have a lot of time on my hands for about a year due to an injury and I’m quite patient and eager to dive in with harder to use paints.
I echo how good these paints are. I really love them. That being said I find their range of saturated bright warm colours to be lacking. They have one real bright yellow but it’s cold tinted. They have one real bright red. But it’s also cold tinted. They make a muddy orange. When you compare to the Kimera base set you see the issue with no “egg yolk” warm yellow etc. I find it strange they’ve added so many colours and not those. So I love the ones I have but I really wish they had at least even balanced temps for the primaries. I also can’t ignore the fact their magenta labelled paint is not magenta, it’s pink. Tons of white added. I use it lots. It’s one of the main colours of my army. It’s just not magenta. Just call it pink ! Anyway. Great review. Thanks.
I hadn't watched this, did a review over at my facebook page and came to nearly identical conclusions. Even so far as pointing out that yup, yellow is still yellow. Somebody just mentioned that you had this review and came to near identical conclusions. Very neat to see it so close. They're lovely paints !
Excellent, always good to see when people come to the same conclusion, makes me feel better as well that I was onto something. I really am loving these more by the day.
very, very intrigued. as much as I like the Scale 75 line, I find I have a difficult time finding good, consistent flow with a lot of their paints. well definitely pick a couple of bottles up and give them a whirl. thanks for sharing the review, Vince!
Glad I'm not the only one that puts paint on the caps to see what they'll look like when I grab for them. I'm even tempted to prime the caps in stripes so I see what it'd look like over a white, grey, and/or black primer...
Well, can't help with the primer thing, but this will do the work for you on the colored tips. The answer is really, these would look the same over almost any primer. The paint is so strong when used close to straight, it's basically opaque.
@@VinceVenturella yeah, i caught that on these, but most of my paints are vallejo model air, other than a dozen or so from asset drop, where a light enough coat would let some of the primer bleed through and give different effects. I've used it before with a mottled pre-shading.
Reading through the comments I feel like the only one who would dislike that style of dropper bottle. I would be wanting to wipe that paint off the top all the time. I guess it checks my OCD box. Still need to try these though.
Just got some of these paints and they are a great departure from the usual vallejo, p3, gw that I am used to. The matte finish takes some practice and I feel like I am learning how to paint almost anew again... They seem like a great product though and I will keep practicing.
Late to the party on this one... but ran across these from checking out the exhibitors support list since adepticon got cancelled due to the pandemic. These jumped out at me from just how pigmented you could tell they were. Then I noticed they came in a dropper AND twist off bottle WITH an agitator included in ~5ml larger bottles.... for roughly $2 cheaper USD than Vallejo or something! Thought it would be a no brainer... but everyone seems to use Vallejo exclusively and it just seemed too good to be true. Thanks for being pretty much the only one I follow who has actually reviewed this paint line!
how did you get comfortable? i spent hours with a US Airborne set and i could only get the brush strokes out after 8 coats and the solid base covering in 5 coats. I tried em straight from the bottle, medium thinned, heavily thinned with water, with airbrush thinner, airbrush thinner and retarder, just retarder, and it was a nightmare. i did a control test with vallejo model, citadel and AK 2nd and 3rd gen paints and after 2 coats, the 2nd gen AK needed 3 and the surface looked nice and proper sans brushstrokes. Thats messed up that people who spend twice the amount on Scale75 compared to other brands have to get comfortable with them or get over a learning curve. I also hear the term they're great for glazing or blending; that's like saying this cars amazing it just doesn't drive in reverse.
@@MF-kv8cn Honestly I gave up on Scale, not my favorite brand. They are terrible at base coating and really only excel at glazing IMO. I am mainly back on the Vallejo train, they are the most versatile and consistent IMO.
@@MrMorden00 ya man i thought i was doing something wrong but after so many tries i did some research and found out the paints are just a nuisance. There's a video produced by scale75 on facebook where they paint a figure with a brush and it says after 2 coats, either they didn't use scale75 or they really used 8 coats and said it was two to fool people into thinking their product actually works. I think their product is only meant to be airbrushed because the step-by-step guide i received with my set said to airbrush the base coat, airbrush the highlights and airbrush the shadows and the fourth step said you can use a brush for the smallest of details. lol. have you tried the scale Artist paints in the 20ml tubes, maybe those are better?
@@MF-kv8cn I won't say Scale paints are bad, but they don't match my painting style well. A lot of people really like them. I have not tried their heavy body acrylics.
Thanks for the honest review. I had Jason’s (slowfuse) custom made white for a while. I believe it is the same formulation released with the set. I is the best white I have worked with. It is also great knowing this paint is produced by an artist as well, with a background with GW, a miniatures commission painter and tattoo artist as well. I also really dig there brush cleaner. Don’t forget the bottles have glass agitators in them too.
hey Vince, just recently got a hold of a set of pro acryl and your videos reviewing the paints really helps. I diluted according to your pro acryl terrain video and the results were amazing.
Looks like something worth trying. Well... as soon as they are available in EU at least. Thank you for this review. I thought while watching I know some beginners whod propably love them. Time to show them this review.
I've been meaning to check them out. I'm surprised that you are so into them. I'm still trying to put together a full range to just kinda paint whatever I happen to be in the mood for, so I love the idea of some new stuff. I probably watched your big comparison video a bunch trying to find something I like.
Funny story that on your resolution video my main thing was learning wet blending and I tried it for the first time and it was a pleasure to work with. I blended some pink and purple on a seeker on top and then went into the mohawk. I loved it and it wasn't as difficult as I thought it would be. Maybe I just got lucky but I loved it and can't thank you enough for all of the help I've been getting from you and your videos. Even when you think you aren't demonstrating something important, like in this video I noticed how you were blending in and tried it myself exactly how you were; and it worked lol.
love that magenta tbh I recently-ish bought proacryl's turquoise to use as a highest highlight for my blue wee free men skin tone, and it's such a lovely colour! Definitely thinking of picking up a few more now, esp seeing how that magenta covered
I put in an order for 9 or 10 of these paints. I spent about 3 minutes using them before reaching the conclusion that these are the best miniature paints that I have used. The pigmentation gives you one layer base coat coverage for most colors even over black primer. These flow so well that I'm not sure it's possible to get visible brush strokes with them. They wet blend phenomenally well without the use of retarder or glaze medium. To say I'm impressed is an understatement. Combine that with the fact that I paid $3.65 per 22 ML bottle while some 12 mL pots of citadel layer paint now cost over $6... Lol. The only paint that may be less expensive is the army painter but I've heard mixed reviews about their paint. It's going to be tough to buy any other brand of paint going forward
@@VinceVenturella it's funny that you mention that. I just started trying to use the pyrrole red yesterday, and getting opacity with it is very difficult. I was painting over black primer which I know is a no-no for red, but I still wasn't expecting it to be that challenging. It seems like the evil sunz scarlet which is a layer paint even has better coverage. Have you had that issue? I'm wondering if I got a mislabeled bottle of their transparent red instead haha
@@benjamincliman2735 I honestly couldn't say, as I've never put red over black (I just don't do it). If you use the burnt red first, my guess is you would get better coverage, then put the pyrrote red over top.
Hey Vince, first off thank you very much for yet another great video review. I value your opinion very highly indeed. Problem is after watching your review of the Warcolours range, I went off and bought the full nine yards set from them, unjustifiable as I'd recently acquired the full Scale 75, Scalecolor & Fantasy & Games sets. Prior to that, being uneducated in the who's who of paint I originally was a Citadel paint guy and also had the majority of those paints too! Last thing I need is more paints no matter how good they are, right? Anyhoo these paints weren't available over here in Blighty, that is until this morning... yea I gone and impulse bought the set! I have managed to curb my miniature buying only to (it seems) have replaced it with a compulsion to buy paints! It could be worse, I could play Magic haha! Been afk for almost a year due to a horrid incident where a power surge destroyed my brand new PC but I have replaced that now and I can once again follow your channel and get back on the PMP. Thanks man you really are a hobby hero!
@@VinceVenturella Got my Pro Acryl set yesterday and have been playing about with them since and boy oh boy they are the shiz, right! Yea couldn't agree more, just ordered the Kimera One Pigment set, looking forwards to messing with those too.
Question: If someone with a bit of experience, albeit rusty, with wet blending, glazing, and mixing their own colors, were to be returning to the hobby starting at ground zero in paints, which would be the better set of paints to get restarted, the Creature Caster Pro set, the Warcolours Layering set, the Scalecolor, or the Scalecolor Fantasy?
That's a big question and one I am not sure I can really answer. I am a paint junkie and they all have different properties that align differently to your style and the way you are going to paint. Like the Warcolours are good over Zenithal highlighting orlight primer, the Scale Fantasy & Games is closer to traditional paint experiences. The normal Scale 75 and Pro Acryl are very opaque and good for wet blending and loaded brush styles. My best advice would be "Yes" and what I mean is don't commit to the entire set. Go out and pick up one pack (most of them have sets, like 6-8 paints in a set) of each and test them. Play with the four sets, they all work interchangably and it will help you get a feel for your own style and where you want to invest.
Thank you for the advice, in fact, you have me thinking differently about an upcoming project that will require multiple techniques but a limited pallet, a perfect opportunity to tailor the paints to the methods.
Sunday afternoon dozing and watching some of Vince’s stuff..looking to buy bunch of the new ak gen3 acrylics...and not too excited...found a Canadian maker of product that’s got colours looking fairly much like artist colours, modest range, matte finish..hey just ordered...thank you sir.,
Vince, I didn't see a note to this effect in the description or your comments so i though i would comment here. I have the full set of these paints and after seeing your video i checked my bottles and I'm not sure why they did this but even though your samples might have been and say 20ml ... what they show and are selling on their website is 17ml so they are the same amount as the Vallejo paints according to the labels. I double checked their website cause i was wondering if i missed something buying the whole range vs singles or a drop down for 20 ml... but nope. 17ml is all. I was kinda bummed (you definitely are not the person i think of when exaggeration comes to mind and i don't think it was on purpose) they weren't 20ml but still love the paints over all. According to Jen they are working on 16 more colors for this quarter so the range should expand soon as well. Hope this clears this up but check for yourself and possibly add a correction so there's no misunderstanding. Looking forward to your next videos.
I ordered a bunch of bottles just like those from China and transferred the handful of P3 paints that I have and they are awesome! Better than standard droppers by far!
I remember hearing you say that you were going to do your Slaanesh faction with the new neon set from Scale75, hopefully you show them off some at some point. I ordered my own set and hoped to see a good artist rendition before I go into that. My first set of Daemonettes are ruined from me learning to paint with them, so I'm worried about ruining more.
I've almost checked out at Creature Caster twice with these in my cart, but I kept saying "nah I'll wait for Vince to do a product review." These look like they'll fill a role similar to the Vallejo extra opaque but with a wider selection of brighter colors.
Yep, I would say the main difference (as I have used a lot of the extra opaque and like them) is these are much smoother and flow better. These are really quite unique in their behavior.
They look pretty nice Vince. Maybe I will try them someday. Their website says they are 17ml bottles. I still love my Scale 75 and the Vallejo paints. Thanks for sharing...
Interesting, the bottles all say 20ml. I love all my paints and nothing is ever going to be my only paint line, but happily these have found a place in the larger paint ecosystem. :)
@@mikebreazeale2563 Yep, very strange (sorry if that was a curt response before, I was responding to several different items). I'll send a note to clarify. :)
Any chance of a review of the Kimera paint range? Also scale 75 have an upcoming kickstarter with a new paint range sometime that might be worth checking out.
Sorry to necro this 4 years later lol, I'm very new to the hobby and only painted my first 2 minis Was planning to try zenithal highlighting for the first time. Would you recommend using these after doing zenithal highlighting? Worried that the opacity would block out all the work underneath.
Depends on what your goals are. :) - These are fairly high opacity, so they will cover the work, but that being said, having a zenithal base coat can still be valuable as it helps you use less layers to achieve a truer and brighter color. I have several videos in the Hobby Cheating playlist, so I would check those out as it can give more information - Here is a recent one, but there is more - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eCh5bJa6vC8.html
@@VinceVenturella awesome, thanks for the explanation and the link. I've been watching a lot of your videos lately, so I'll keep my eyes peeled for more of those zenithal priming ones 😀
08:50 The pigment most commonly used in magenta paints from artist lines is PR122 and it's naturally pretty transparant. The reason that magenta is covering so well must be because of the amount of white in the paint. Kimera's magenta is made out of PR122 and is still relatively transparant even though it is also very pigment rich.
Just took the plunge and ordered the starter set along with expansion sets 1,3 &4. I’ve heard nothing but good things and figured now is the time to replace my aging citadel lineup.
For a future product review I'd like to get your take on "Dirty Down Rust Effect." From what I can tell this is a company that produces special effects paint for the film industry for use on props. I've gotten a pot - had to order from a supplier in the UK - and it seems like pure magic to me, though I definitely don't maintain the same sort of control I do with a standard stipple rust application. Possibly something that could be a worthy of a Hobby Cheating video as well, if you want to be adventurous and figure out the ins and outs of it as far as control goes. (This company also produces some other special effects paints I haven't yet acquired which I suspect could be just as magical.)
States coming soon to EU and UK, would like to know when. I bought and tried out some of those War Colors paints (base and layer) and they are incredible; note that War colors also does some 'Old School' paints which seem to cover old style Citadel paints for 'Old Hammer' etc which is interesting as I know a few people who are into Old Hammer but there are no reviews for these old school paint sets.
From your demonstration it seems these don't need much thinning to use. I've been using the Rich Gold and I thinned it with about as much water as I usually use for acrylics, and the coverage went to crap. Should I not have used much water? I'm trying to Basecoat smooth surfaces and don't want to ruin the smoothness with brush texture.
So a couple of things here. I love Pro Acryl, but their metals are average at best. It's a weak spot in the line. That being said, metals in general you don't really want to use much water with them, they have bad coverage for most (I have videos specific to good metal paint lines in the playlist, so check those out if you want to see the best in action), but the key here is you really don't thin them much and you need to smooth on the miniature. What I mean here is you apply some of the paint with little thinning, then you smooth it out and push it around on the miniature to flatten it ou and work it smooth.
@@VinceVenturella thanks for the advice. I'll probably strip my Caladius (for the second time) because I think I spent 3 hours applying layers, still getting some brush texture. I'm going to have to get some gold that doesn't require like 5 layers to get opaque coverage.
Curious how these stack up to kimera kolors. Those are insanely pigment rich too, but use one artists quality pigment per bottle . And they’re designed to mix your own colors. I might give these a go too.
I've used both kimera and pro acryl at this point. Kimera is also very pigment rich, but they don't feel as opaque or have as good as flow as these. With Kimera, it feels like you really need to 'learn' how to use them. And that's been reflected by several folks I've talked with. It feels like they're more like colors to add into other paints, rather than paints themselves. Getting basecoats with them feels much much different IMO. They're not bad, but very different. Whereas the Pro Acryls just feel like a natural evolution/extension of other paints.
Chris S cool thanks for sharing your thoughts. i’ve also found kimera to not be the easiest to work with from the get-go. however i’ve bekomen happy with them and they sure work great to create some very rich colors. i’ll see how they compare to pro acryl soon as i have a small set coming my way
Vince, I wanted to let you know that I had that same nail condition that is on your thumb and it was from my bad habit of pulling back the cuticle with my index fingernail. If you are able to let that cuticle grow back and leave it alone the ripple effect in your thumbnail will go away. Also thank you for this video.
I was very excited about this review as these paints seem to meet my needs perfectly. However, Creature Caster doesn’t sell paints on their site anymore. Do you know if the Pro Acryl paints at Monument are the same ones?
James Wappel used these in a video and seemed happy. He said they were going to try to release 4 new colors per quarter. Have you tried them through an airbrush? Overall looks like something I’d like to try. Did they send you brushes by any chance?
Have you gotten to try their glaze/wash medium yet? I’ve been anxiously waiting for your thoughts and have gotten impatient! I’m curious if you would use something like that or still just water when glazing with these. They’re my main opaque paints and I’m working on learning to glaze.
@@VinceVenturella Looking forward to it, thanks! If you haven’t filmed it yet, I’d love to hear your thoughts on both how it behaves when creating glazes/washes for Pro Acryl specifically, as well as how it differs from other mediums out there. I think in your other video where you discussed mediums you didn’t really differentiate by brand or what may make one medium better/different than another, you just said they all serve the same basic goal.
Hi Vince. Thanks for your in depth Review. I use the PA Paints mostly. But i have the problem that these paints especially attract water on the wet palette like nothing else. Im common using a wet palette, but after 30min PA Paints are like a thin wash if you put them on the WP. I tried it with less watering the palette, but it didnt help. Do you have any tips, because i dont like to waste paint, especially PA is not so easy to get here in germany.+ Second Question: I want to buy a substitute Line to the PA. Do you think Scale 75 (Standard or Fantasy and Game Line) is a good substitution because of their glazing abilities? Or would you recommend more Workhorsish Paints like Model Color, AK Interactive 3rd Gen or the ne Game Color Line? Its hard to get some paints here in the german wilderness, because there is no hobby store in 200km. So ordering online is the way to go, and im the type of guy who like to uses whole product lines. Greetings and thank you.
@@VinceVenturella thanks a Lot. I think i order the 100 Box of ak and a small batch of scale to try them out. I asked Monument the Same question about the wet palette and they Said :"there is no problem with hydrophilic paints in our Line" :) . But i saw you used them on a dry palette also and youre the content creator who deep dives honest in the most paints, and you arent Sponsored by the manufacturers. So i thought asking you is the best solution. Thanks for the quick answer
Could you weigh in here please, i don't understand what I'm doing wrong when the majority of people are erasing Scale75. I don't have an airbrush so i paint via brush. I primed an old CD case withe Citadel's Corax white, and i tried out the Scale75 paints on the primed surface. I thinned them with water just like you would thin Citadel or Vallejo paints. No lie, i needed 7-8 coats to fully cover the surface and to rid myself of the brush strokes on the surface. I did the same thing with Vallejo Model paints and a similar color tone and in two coats i was completely covered and no brush strokes. This was with a light sand color too. I even did a Russian Uniform WWII, US Dark Green, German Grey, Khaki, Lime Green and all the Vallejo's covered in two coats with no brush strokes. I contacted Scae75 USA and the guy there emailed me back and said the original and Warfront paints have the same coverage, and the original have a matt finish whereas the warfront have an ultra-matt finish. I also watched a video by Scale75 on facebook where they paint a German soldier's WWII coat with SW38 Feldgrau by brush and they say they used two coats to cover the figure. Am i doing something wrong? Any thoughts? would appreciate some feedback. Thank you
COuld be that particular paint, but realistically, scale 75 shouldn't be thinned like vallejo, it's actually meant to be applied more thickly, only thined slightly and then painted on the surface, like you spread the paint a lot more and move it around the surface. But my honest answer is if it's giving you trouble, just stick with vallejo and use an ultra matte varnish afterward, no reason to kill yourself over a brand of paint.
@@VinceVenturellasorry for the long essay but ya i hear ya and completely understand. It's just that a lot of people praise it and a few have problems like me. I was trying to find out what i was doing wrong. It's like, when i misplace something that i know is there, and i can't stop looking for it till i find it, same story with these here. i tired painting it that way too, un-thinned, and it still applied with heavy brush strokes, just thicker. I tried the spread out technique on the surface and it'still applies quite translucent. The AK matt varnish, can that be applied by brush? I'm going to purchase the Pro-Acryl paints i read good things about them thanks to you, very convincing product, but i would still like to try the Scale Artist 20ml tube paints. If i had problems with the original paint line, you think i'll have the same issues with the tubes? I seen a Scale produced video where they apply the paint no problem with the Artist line, but then again i seen a video of them brush paint the Warfront set on a figure in two coats with no streaks. Maybe because i was doing my tests on a flat surface of a primed white CD case and people are using these paints on small 28-35mm areas that i was getting the results i was getting? facebook.com/Scale75official/videos/-how-to-paint-a-fieldgrey-uniform-heres-an-easy-step-by-step-video-guide-get-the/302858804825002/?__so__=permalink&__rv__=related_videos
If you are using a quick base coating style, then yes. If you are using my speed painting, washes and glazes, not really as you have to thin them quite a bit. If you are using wet blending for speed painting - they YES as they are amazing at that. :)
Someone from Slowfusegaming (don't remember who) said that they try to work with as many single pigment paints as they can. This to help with mixing. Sadly, they couldn't tell me which pigments they used. That makes me less interesting in investing in these paints, that's too bad because all the other properties are very nice.
Nice review, Vince! Wet blending is my technique of choice so I recently bought several scale color 75 paints and I’m in the process of liquidating (pun intended) my other paint lines: reaper, p3, citadel, Vallejo Game color/old citadel paints. How would you compare these to a scale 75 and warcolors since they’re all gel-based? I do like the fact that scale 75 has a lot of dark colors which pro acryl seems to be lacking at this time
They are in the same camp for me, in fact, these have entered my rotation with those two as I tend to wet blend and loaded brush a lot, so these fit right in. Overall quality, on the same level, the only real draw back right now is of course the small range of colors.
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Would you recommend only using a dry palette for these paints? Or do you still use a wet palette? Also, when you did the wet blending, what brush were you using? It looked a little "splayed" in one of the clips.
Looking to move towards wetblending and I love any excuse to get more paints, do you prefer these or heavy bodied acrylics to wetblend with mate. I'm liking the look of the heavy bodied acrylics but missed the scale 75 kickstarter. Are there any other you would recommend?
Well, stay tuned, there is a video that will be of great interest to you coming soon. That being said, S75, Warcolours and Pro Acryl are all great for wet blending and I do think Pro Acryl is probably the best.
Great review Vince. I am in the process of investing in equipment and paints at the moment in order to do commission work when l retire from my day job. Will definately be having a set of these. Did you try airbrushing them? Would be interested in knowing the results.
@@VinceVenturella thanks Vince. I thought they would be. Not available in uk as yet but l have a large shopping list and plenty of time. No minis on that list. Got plenty of "gray" as it is and not much finished. All heading in right direction though. At the moment if it's gray it's still in its box and not coming out until all the grey has gone from the table. New start new regime. Thanks for the sage advice on keeping motivated Vince. I am following it and it works. Thanks again.
Hey Vince! Just discovered this video, and i've been using GW metallics my whole time painting. I'd really like some suggestions for metallic paints you consider good as i am looking to try out some other paints.
Definitely get rid of those, the GW metals are, frankly, pretty bad. What you want is Vallejo Metal Color, not game, not model, not air, Vallejo Metal Color (www.amazon.com/Vallejo-Steel-Metal-Color-Paint/dp/B012A93HZS/ref=asc_df_B012A93HZS/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309960515256&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8843006619550929445&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9014913&hvtargid=pla-435000542780&psc=1) I have a review on my channel, they are the only acryllic metal paints I use. They are amazing. Steel, Silver, Copper and Gold would be your 4 starting. They are more expensive for sure, but they are much larger bottles and worth every penny. As a note, they have amazing coverage and can blend, but they are quite liquidy, you need to be wicking your brush off in a paper towel before touching it to your model.
These seem like a really good set for opaque basecoats. Have you been able to get ahold of and try the Kimera set yet? I would be curious to hear your thoughts on how they compare. I have found Kimera to be incredibly saturated, and a bit difficult to blend with layers, but wetblend and glaze very nicely. How does Pro Acryl handle layering? Does the opacity make it more of a challenge? Also, a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours, and to the hobby cheating community!
Haven't tried the Kimera yet, though I certainly plan to in the future. As to layering and glazing, they are great as they are highly pigmented, but they do have to be thinned more than normal.
I ended up buying their whole (current) line up - and only for the first time had a chance to crack the grey open just to airbrush a bit of zenithal. great paints and looking forward to learning more with them. Have you since picked up the expanded (still small) color range? played with the transparent line yet?
Love these paints, I just got 2 sets (base and Metallic) and basically needed to relearn painting: I find them that good. Any thoughts or a review of the transparent series. I got those 2 but having difficulty figuring out exactly what they do more then a shade or contrast!
Hi Vince, random question - have you ever noticed the paint trying to escape the pot as soon as you start to unscrew the lid? Mine have suddenly started doing it today (all of them, new and old) so assuming it's due to the cold (in the UK so not insanely cold but it's all I can think of). Not affecting the way they work or behave at all but it's a bit weird, having to just twist the lid very slightly to avoid far too much spilling out. Cheers
Yes, it's happening because basically the capilary action within the bottle. The air is drawing the liquid up like a straw. One of the things you can do is basically open it just a tad and then kind of smack it lightly to break up the liquid.
Quick question, I brought a couple of paints (Ivory and Burnt Red) to try out; but I find particularly when base coating I struggle to get a smooth application. Have you encountered this? Not the end of the world since I've plenty of other paints to use; but just figured I ask.
Strange, haven't run into the issue and those are two of my favorite colors, I find they base coat well, but it may be in the method. Are you thinning them way out? I will say I generally apply them pretty straight, and then smooth on the miniture, working the brush to spread and feather out the paint and get good results there.
@@VinceVenturella hmm. Alright, I will give that a go. It’s also been a while since I’ve really had opportunity to sit down, so I might have to reteach myself some paint consistency.
Hey Vince, I bought a bunch of Pro Acryl following this review but I'm having an issue with them drying with a slight graininess and "tooth" on my models when applied normal and thinned down. I'm back to the hobby so maybe there's something I'm doing wrong in my process. Any ideas?
That's strange, I haven't experienced that, my only thought is mix - we're they shaken enough? I suppose two other ideas - primer, did the primer layer go on clean or possibly you may need to thin more. This is all guesses.
Hi Vince. These are some very interesting paints. Are they still water-based colors ? Do they conform to ASTM D-4236 (or some other safety regulation) ?
yes, they are still just water based acrylics, it's just the additive mix and pigment density. I can't say on the ASTM, but I would imagine so. I would email them to be sure, but there is no chemical difference between these and other acrylic paints I know of.
Hey Vince, I have been using the scale75 metallics recently, and I really like them, but I find that their coverage isn't the best. Would you say that the pro acryl metallics have better opacity? How do they compare in terms of shine/finish?
How does their yellow compare to Averland Sunset from GW? Thanks for the review! I just saw someone singing the praises of the white paints from this company and I popped over to see if you had anything to say.
I couldn't say on the direct comparison, it's been years since I have used GW paints. I will say I love (LOVE) their whites, their Bold Titanium White is buttery smooth and flows really, really well and the ivories are wonderful.
It has a really nice white, which is good, but I think it won't be necessary. For your Ice Trolls, we can do the white as the main color and glaze in the other colors like blues. If you were doing strong bold colors, might be better.
great I think I should have an airbrush sorted by next month. I want to move away from GW paints. What would be an ideal paint set to purchase to use with an airbrush with the trolls in mind?
Bought the mahogany because I thought it looked great, but I found the coverage quite bad and it did not like being on a wet palette at all. Have you found this a problem with your subsequent use of them at all?
Haven't found the issue, but it might not be fully mixed, I will say you do have to give this one a good shake. It could also be a bad single paint. All lines have them sometimes.
I don't get these paints, everyone calls them matte but for me they are satin as can be. What am I doing wrong!!! I got the white and the red (Oh my god it's gorgeous)
Hey Vince, how do you think they compare to Warcolours One Coat series in terms of coverage and flow? I own these and I thought they were the best... did Slow Fuse managed to do something even better that that!?!
I love the Warcolours One Coat line, they are really good, I think these are easily on the level. I think the gel-based nature of the Warcolours has some advantages for void blending and two brush, but these are more opaque and have a different flow. I think it's the flow that really impresses me the most.
You can see them in action on the lates videos of nex level painting and slow fuse gaming twitch channels. It seems that you have to put less paint than vallejo. www.twitch.tv/slowfusegaming/videos
I use them on a wet palette, so certainly they are always somewhat thinned. I also often use a little bit of flow improver. That being said, I haven't seen too much issue with using it straight, but a little bit of water to make sure everything is flowing is never bad.
I love them all and have used them all a bunch, I couldn't give you a solid recomendation amongst the three, because it has more to do with your personal style. My best advice is order a small number of each and paint with them for several figures and see what suits your style best. I will say this, I honestly don't think you could go wrong with any of them.
They have a lot of similarities. Scale 75 (the normal line) is gel based, where the Pro Acryl is more traditional fluid. Both are great for wet blending, both are quite matte. The Pro Acryl is more pigment rich and seems be able to be thinned more. Both are great quality paints and honestly, they are easily on the level with Scale 75. The biggest difference is simply the size of the range, but that is something that will change over time.
hello vince. how are those paints pigmentwise compared to kimera colors? so to get pretty thin base layers. and hey, i had a painting workshop last week. you are pretty popular here among the hobbyists :-D
Well thank you, that's good to hear. :) - Now, as to their pigmentation, they are very highly pigments, strong opacity, but they aren't on the level of kimera, close but not there.
@@VinceVenturella and I forgot to add: Thank you for all your tutorials. Especially the “Start Here”. It is not only the content that makes those videos great, it is the way you relay the message. There’s a huge difference between someone boasting their skills or what they can do with miniatures and someone who TEACHES how to paint it. Way to go Vince !!!!
A great review as always. However I will never again buy anything from Creature Caster on a principal base. Jeremy has completely ripped off his kickstarter backers when he started his company and this kind of business practise I will never endorse, even if these are the best and cheapest paints out there.
I understand, they have definitely changed since then and I spoke to the whole team as they made themselves available for my questions, it's clear they are very passionate and trying to correct from any of that. Not trying to change your mind, I completely get it, but I will say they assuaged any concerns I had.
Nope, metal color is it's own thing, it's right here - www.amazon.com/Vallejo-Silver-Metal-Color-Paint/dp/B012A94O64/ref=sxin_14_ac_d_rm?ac_md=3-2-dmFsbGVqbyBtZXRhbCBjb2xvciBzdGVlbA%3D%3D-ac_d_rm_rm_rm&cv_ct_cx=vallejo+metal+color&keywords=vallejo+metal+color&pd_rd_i=B012A94O64&pd_rd_r=b86e149c-cd5d-40e0-a9de-fbdfd6426dc8&pd_rd_w=kDQES&pd_rd_wg=y4JNp&pf_rd_p=4ddd8e40-6b01-4726-9d0f-a100f252099e&pf_rd_r=Q5VWX272TPBWKR3E3PCA&psc=1&qid=1638141825&sr=1-3-12d4272d-8adb-4121-8624-135149aa9081
@@VinceVenturella Thanks. Just ordered the Chrome from a local model shop. I am restoring some old Matchbox trucks that have Chrome exhausts and bumpers.
@@thephoenix8722 I ended up getting almost a whole set of these paints. For me, they don't work like a dream through the air brush. I still get dry tip often. Also, some of the paints come out chalky. Like Ivory. I contacted the manufacturer about this and they never replied after I showed them pictures.
