The more we hear about the arguments, clashes, accidents and accusations going on behind the scenes of Batwoman, the more of a disaster this show seems to be. Join me as I delve deep into the murky world of the CW's Batwoman.
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Not to mention she wasn't Jewish. Plenty of non-jewish people have played Jewish roles before, such as Ben Kingsley in Schindler's List or Adrien Brody in The Pianist. Why is it such an issue now?
@@duncanwade1026 And there are plenty of Jewish actors who played non-Jewish characters. (i.e. Cpt. Kirk is canonically not Jewish, and Spock was DEFINITELY not Jewish.) It's just not that much a problem when you can't point at someone and be like "yeah, that guy ain't not Jew." No can really tell apart from like straight up Hassidic folk with the suits and everything, so it isn't a big problem for suspension of disbelief. Especially when they all have their menorah-shaped pubes and Star of David tattoos concealed by costumes at all times which they're legally required to have otherwise they're disowned by the Ghost of King David. It's a whinging of self-indulgent, infantile moralism on the part of people who never got past the high school phase of perceiving the world around them. They want "representation" whereas we just want people who can reasonably play roles in order to suspend disbelief in support of a good story. A Tutsi African dude could easily pass for another African ethnicity, but were one to suddenly replace him with an Asian dude for no reason, the audience is going to be like "wait, what?"
Every time someone says “Ruby Rose” I forget that there is a real person with that name and just blankly stare while thinking how RWBY could be relevant
@andy Magna Sounds like somebody suffers from low self esteem, insecurity, weak will and weak mind, and possibly low IQ. Any of that ring a bell cupcake???
@@AlcoholicBoredom Who cares someone needs to call them out and it's gonna respond anyway from someone else learn how the internet works you should know this by now
@@dewolf123 *"...learn how the internet works you should know this by now"* This is hilariously ironic. Your ideas about how to deal with attention-seeking coxcombs are entirely backward.
Imagine you're Dougray Scott. You've just been accused of serious things by a woman who's toxicity turned an entire cast and crew against her, all because your producers fired her. Like, why would she target him? He didn't fire her, he had no control over that. Ruby deserves all the shit that she gets.
Why can't they BOTH be correct? Maybe there was plenty of diva to go around. It's not like the show picked up after she left and everyone sang songs together.
My personal theory: Working behind the scenes on the show WAS a hellish experience, and Ruby Rose WAS a spoiled, demanding diva. When that much egotism and belligerence from both sides gets together, the end results are never pretty. As for Dougray Scott, he probably DID want out of his contract ASAP due to the low quality of the show, its abysmal ratings, and what a thankless role he played on it, and probably was a little grumpy for a while when he was denied a way out until the end of Season 2. Ruby Rose, then, having pretty much no prospects afterwards, brought up all this crap, leaving out her own nastiness and embellishing the studio heads' douchebaggery somewhat, for publicity. She then decided that in order for her claims to draw more attention, that she needed to take a page out of Amber Heard's toxic playbook and exploit the MeToo movement by throwing in an accusation of abuse against the most high- profile male member of the show's cast. Dougray Scott (The only person closely associated with the show who had really significant name- recognition) was the perfect target for her in that regard, so she heavily embellished how he acted after he was unable to get out of his contract. Problem is, Scott has moved on from the show and is currently trying to rebuild his career with more sophisticated fare (He is now back in his native Scotland shooting a British TV/ streaming adaptation of Irvine Welsh's novel 'Crime,' in which he'll be playing the lead), and so he won't take her slandering him to boost her own career sitting down, and so he's taking her bony butt to court over it.
@@josephnewsome2935 That ties into what I said right away that working on the show likely WAS a hellish experience, I'd imagine Ruby Rose wasn't completely lying about that. Caroline Dries and the other higher- ups involved in the show's production likely cared a lot more about the show's production staying on schedule than about the safety of their employees.
Kinda makes sense, i remember her being propped up as the emissary for lesbian actresses when Batwoman was being announced via controversy and the usual debauchery and now her career doesn't seem to go anywere, which is weird, because i remember her in the megalodon movie and she was alright. Outside of that, it seems the showrunner is at fault, as the de facto director they have the obligation to make sure things go smoothly, including dealing with egoes
The most logical and rational theory here - however that ''bony ass'' part was petty and redundant. I mean, when criticizing someone shouldn't we focus on their behaviour and not on their bodies and looks??? Otherwise, it ruins your eloquent reasonable comment and makes it less objective/smart.
@Agnez Ummm... @The Critical Drinker can you remove this obvious spam comment? Including my comment if it is in fact removed? Or am I being too prude? I'm not a fan of censorship or blocking pornographic websites but I would hate to see this form of webcam advertisement become a trend in the comment sections of RU-vid.
@@kcbondurant7959 I report them, that's the most we can do. Usually for hate comments, cause maybe that's a faster way to get youtube's algorithm to flag it. Idk
That whole nonsense with Ruby's character coming back with a different actor who had "plastic surgery" within the show to explain the appearance change is literally what the animated Disney movie Bolt does at the end in the parody show within the movie. The fact that a real show did the exact same thing with no sense of self-awareness baffles me.
I mean replacing an actor is always hard and no one really does it perfectly. You either give some weak excuse right out of a Daytime soap Opera or you ignore it entirely and just act like nothing changed, aka Bewitched. That said I thought the silliest part was the brought Kate Kane back just to do nearly nothing with her. Same with the Bruce Wayne body double. All that build up so to speak and they had almost no impact on anything.
it would certainly be good to see since the show sucks so much that the production failing so hard would be better and show how bieng woke is more fucked than idk actually making a comicbook story come to life?
imagine getting paralysed for life, looking back at your life 10 years later when your grand children comes to you ask "what happened to you?" and then have to answer "I was severy injured in a scene during the prodution of batwoman"
@@temmison1171 The story about the production assistant to be true, alot of news sites reported something like that happening in early 2020 during the Batwoman shoots. And Ruby Rose herself got hurt during a stunt. So those events happening are true.
@@pyorre2441 Interesting, do you have any sort of link or article headlines of this? I searched it up, and all I could find was allegations of Ruby Rose saying it herself.
@@temmison1171 Her name is Amanda Smith, and if you google her name and paralyzed that should be enough to find several news pieces of the accident. It happened somewhere around March 2020.
I did a day call which turned into about a week doing lighting on Batwoman when I lived in Vancouver. Didn't want to be on it as I'd heard some of the rumours but yes, I can vouch for that production assistant. On one night shoot which started around 6:30pm at the Vancouver train station there was just one short stunt scene where Batwoman was meant to slide off a bike, have a short dialog and then dissappear. This was a 2nd team shoot so it should have been short shift (anything less than 12 hours is short, 15s would be standard at times). Everything was set up ready to start shooting yet Ruby sat in her chauffeured car for around 2 hours right next to set, for no reason, despite being called multiple times. We all had to stand around in the freezing weather, ice, snow and wind. It ended up being a 19 hour shift in the end. She had a stunt double and body double so she was only needed for the facial shots. Another day we had only a couple of hours to do a last minute full on lighting for Vancouver city hall with no warning and limited equipment as again it was a 2nd team shoot. It was a crappy production as a whole but that's the ugly nature of the film industry up in 'North Hollywood' as they call it. Ridiculous hours, low energy because of lack of sleep and no original ideas for the crews to even get slightly energized by. The safety standards there are extremely lacking too despite them putting millions into the ridiculous covid protocols and it is true about the production assistant that got severely injured. That made the DGC and IATSE union really start to make a bit more of a stand about conditions. The pay may have been good but I cherish my time more than money nowadays. And thank christ I was only a day call. Its embarrassing to have put even some of my time into it.
0.47M people watched the season 3 opening. Constantine was cancelled mid-season at 3.3M viewership. Constantine throughout the short season 1 for the most part had 10x the audience of the Batwoman. Let that sink in.
"A crew member got 3rd degree burns over his whole body, and we were given no therapy after witnessing his skin fall of his face." That's bad enough when you're defending your homeland, building a power plant or whatever, but suffering such injuries because of Batwoman is just rubbing salt into the wounds.
I mean, bad enough to get paralyzed by a random accident on your way to work. But from making a hot mess garbage tv show? What a horrible reminder. Does anyone know if the paralyzed assistant has a gofundme?
Show has 84% rating with “critics” while a 23% with audiences. Sounds like it’s getting a 4th season. It’s amazing how much crap like this gets renewed. Its even more amazing how many people actually defend this show.
@@twistedtrailerparktales2126 I'm not even interested with the new phase of Marvel after Falcon and Winter Soldier letdown. Haven't seen Loki, Ten Rings, Black Widow and have zero interest in Eternals
Just from my own experience, I've been around Dougray before, several times. He was nothing but kind, cool and polite. He's also a good dad, I've seen these things first hand. Never worked with RR, so I can't speak to her.
Almost NOBODY has worked with RR because, as we keep trying to tell you all, she is NOT AN ACTOR. Australians were like 'hahah oh wait, ur serious? the underwear model and 'DJ' who dates C-grade australian celebrities? Batwoman? No no no no no...." Americans seriously have a hard time telling when Australians can't act. The Hemsworth boys learned on the job, but they were soap actors at BEST before you guys decided they should be in movies. Joel Edgerton is the worst; so incredibly untalented it's like a long-running prank we're pulling on America. Heath Ledger surprised even us, though. Hollywood been trying to copy that story ever since. The rule now seems to be, if you're bad at acting with your natural Australian accent, go to Hollywood, where you can be a star. (But only if you're a genuinely nice person like Chris Hemsworth and not, say, Ruby Rose.)
@@GlennDavey tbf Chris Hemsworth has done well as Thor his brother however yeah he’s not been so good and yeah Heath Ledger surprised everyone as the joker (even tho knights tale existed but even that was a comedy) it was one of the best performances of all time and he was lost too soon.
@@GlennDavey *"as we keep trying to tell you all, she is NOT AN ACTOR."* Honest question: Why does it seem like everyone calls women 'actors' now, and not 'actresses'?
@@FNA27601 I can't imagine why you think his Joker performance was great. It was entirely by-the-book and uninspired. I have _no_ bias against Ledger. _A Knight's Tale_ is a good movie. I like _The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus._ But people are entirely blinded by bias when it comes to Ledger's Joker, simply because he died shortly afterward. One simply can not understand much about acting and think that there is anything special about Ledger's Joker portrayal. It's actually somewhat cringey at times for -- again -- how generic his interpretation of "crazy" is.
I still can't get over the fact that Batwoman has been running for 3 seasons, with a viewership under 0.5 million viewers per episodes and a 0.1 score in the 18 to 49 demographic... while another Arrowverse show (Constantine) got cancelled for "low ratings" with over 3 million viewers per episodes and a solid 1.0 score in the 18 to 49 demo. ... Sure, we will soon get a "rebooted" Constantine show on HBO max... but JJ Abrams got his slimy hands on it and announced a "diverse" Constantine and I am preemptively horrified. [EDIT: Hell, I just saw that Constantine had almost 4X the views of Doctor Who - Season 12 and it still got cancelled...]
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Here's the thing: Actual, organic diversity of the pre-woke era doesn't count as "real diversity" to the wokies, because it doesn't fit the narrative and agenda.
What gets renewed and what gets canceled never makes sense. A solid show with a good fallowing will get canceled while a show no one watches will continue to go on and on.
The "entertainment" industry managers do not hire the best talent these days. They hire relatives, their F&ск toys, buddies, and children of the "people important for business". Anyone and anything bur the best or even average talent. So, this is what we get in the outcome: garbage productions, bad attitude to criticism, endless filming set disasters, internal conflicts that become too evident in the productions themselves, etc. Thank you for this insightful review!
Well, just before the Covid, the CW announced that they were going to remake a "Dark Shadows" series. Being a big fan of the original and the 90's remake, I thought great. When CW cancelled it, was disappointed. But now I am glad they are not ruining Dark Shadows as well.
I've actually worked as a camera operator on a production with Dougray Scott and from my own personal experience, he's a very likeable professional man. He interacts with the crew very well, is happy to do numerous run-throughs (because mistakes happen), works with the guys on a technical level for visuals and rework scenes if need be. He also has the ability to offer insight and suggest technical elements from experience. He would actually make a very good producer. So IMHO my suspicion is that it is more likely that Ruby Rose is the problem. Update: One thing I forgot to mention, he made a point of going round and speaking to us all individually, just to spend a minute or so with us (including the runners & assistants), because he knows this business is about relationships.
If so, tell her to be Batwoman for us in the arrowverse show season 3 and/or 4. Whether it does or doesn't happen, she deserves to be a well portrayed batwoman (from the start) in the Matt Reeves bat trilogy as Batman's first or second partner.
I can confirm with you. Dougray Scott was nothing but professional and Ruby was the issue, she's twisting the story to save her own ass (worked on Batwoman for the first half of the show here in Vancouver)
@@helloimyellow007 the way I see it. Neither Dougray nor Ruby were the issue. It was Caroline's fault that the story of the show is stupid and unbearable and unsafe for the actors
"3rd Degree Burns over his entire body..." No. That is fatal. Either Rose simply does not know what 3rd Degree Burns are and she is lying out of ignorance, or she is lying, or there was an actual death on set that no one is admitting to.
@@braindavidgilbert3147 3rds are charred flesh/beyond superficial heavy burns. they are certainly lethal, but also survivable depending on circumstances. If this poor crew fella was covered in 3rds he could certainly survive but permanently messed up.
*"3rd Degree Burns over his entire body..."* Maybe it's like "There are people all over the world", which doesn't mean that the world is literally coated in a layer of people. In other words, an exaggeration of the sort: "100% of his body was 10% burned.".
@@omegon3782 yes you can techincally survive 3rd degree burns and it's common but you'd end up in some permanently damaged postion with your body But holy shit, 3rd degree all over the body? I don't fkin believe ANYONE could ever survive something like that
Even without the many members of the production stepping forward saying that Ruby was the issue, just based on her history its clear she has a real bad attitude problem. From the production crew of OITNB saying she wanted out and didn't gel with anyone to harassing her ex-girlfriend for over 4 months. She really doesn't seem like a very nice person to be around.
There was also an incident where she was socialising in a bar, ordered champagne worth $4k iirc, and skipped out, leaving her buddies to pick up the tab
Before Batwoman, Az was known as Chaz. That show is so bad it took his "Ch" along with half of his soul and most of his hair. Az is the Gollum to Chaz's Smeagol.
“Production Hell”? The true Hell is for the viewers who chose to watch the end result! I can laugh, because I’ve never watched it, never had a desire to watch it, and never will watch it!! Thank you, Drinker, for saving me from accidentally watching a single episode!!
Considering how Scott and the assistant are against Rose and not the studio I think it's safe to say the one causing the problems is probably Rose. We also haven't heard about any other accidents from anyone else which leaks would likely happen if the cast and crew were so unhappy. It's all claims coming from Rose who at this point doesn't seem to be a reliable source. Her story seems to have holes and contradictions which often means the person is leaving out details and not being truthful.
I just wonder how in the 80s and 90s when Jackie Chan and Sly Stallone still at peak they actually do their own stunt and having massive injury without anyone complaining, woke
The truth is that the character has been terrible since the comics created it. Batgirl is a much better character and Barbra Gordon is worlds more interesting
@@frostlast768 We don't talk about characters in their present personas. A lot of comic book characters are social justice warriors right now. Wait and see Punisher from MARVEL killing Christians, Sexists, Homophobes, Transphobes and all the other -phobes in due time.
That’s actually a photo of Az from the future, after he, the Drinker, Mauler, and Gary B have been fused into the superbeing needed to fight the Amazon Muskbots.
That's like...an extremely exploitable weakness to give to a hero. All these "heroes" are so weak that the villains pretend they don't know how to beat them just so they don't feel bad.
For a production made up of such tolerant, loving, open minded and inclusive people, it all really just seems to be made up of hateful, spiteful dregs they like to think they are against.
With how woke Ruby Rose is, I am very much convinced that she made up all of the accusations against Scott for the purpose of redirecting her own toxicity
@@BungZero Same, I just re-watched this video and it's painfully obvious (knowing Ruby Rose's own personality/history from the last ten plus years) that she chose the most well known and prolific actor on the show, when there's barely any other recurring male characters. She couldn't choose the black guy of course, and the rest were smaller time supporting b listers. And of COURSE she has nothing to say about the dozens of actresses around her at all times. They were definitely all perfect. It was just the man that was the problem 🙄🙄🙄
I just wonder how in the 80s and 90s when Jackie Chan and Sly Stallone still at peak they actually do their own stunt and having massive injury without anyone complaining, woke
@@chlorophyll6154 You can't expect modern LA hipsters who cry when starbucks is out of pumpkin spice, to be able to do anything difficult, that would be unfair and racist and sexist.
OK I googled lesbian actress of Jewish descent and I came up with the perfect candidate to take over the role of Batwoman. Miriam Margolyes appears to be the only woman I could find that meets that criteria. She is 80 years old but we can't allow ourselves to be ageist.
Nerdrotic put it best: "I believe both and am rooting for neither" Hey, he's an idea for a show: it's about the making of a really REALLY bad super hero program and the drama behind the scenes! Since the drama behind Batwoman is far more entertaining than the show itself...
Yeah. So hating on it when she was still starring in some tv movies and either did or had chances to be in big budget blockbusters. Even with her mid-acting at best, much worse cause most are generally worse on the CW. Dougray Scott just gets more drunk and looks like hell as the show goes on. Ruby Rose asking to still return but gets recast with Wallis Day. I don't doubt production was a disaster zone, but Ruby Rose blaming everyone but herself? Yeah, sure, that's totally believable. No wonder why even in this day and age the studio defended Dougray Scott. Not that WB has a soul when they make up reasons to fire people but still went through with the flush and didn't recast amber turd.
I've never watched a single episode of this show, and yet I've had so much entertainment from it indirectly. So there's a positive in its favour, probably the only one by the sounds of it 😂 Thanks Drinker.
I managed to suffer through 3 episodes. They were progressively worse each time. (and i always give a show anywhere between 3-5 episodes. Sometimes they can have a rough start and then nail it later.) I couldnt even make 4 here. Awful awful shit
So as far as the accusations go, Dougray Scott has been in film for decades and not one blip on the radar for bad behaviour. Ruby Rose as far as I can see has never been in any movie/tv series for more than one film/season. Usually younger actors will want to hang on to a job as long as possible. Going by that, I’d bet that CW will win the lawsuit against her. Here’s hoping she’ll go the way of the Lohan.
@@EVAUnit4A he's 55. That's the age when many movie stars turn into TV stars. From Peter Falk to Angela Lansbury. Plus it was a main starring role in the TV series so he's probably making about 50 Grand per episode with the potential for 250k if it had been a hit. But I looked at the wiki and he does have a long list of credits and The Parent poster's right... Dougray doesn't have history of complaints from co-workers.
I agree with the Critical Drinker. The problem lies somewhere in the middle. It's a more diplomatic way of saying that (mostly) everyone somehow contributed to this shite fest. Though I strongly believe the studio should take most of the blame...
I can actually beleave both sides honestly. I can beleave Ruby Rose saying that the enviroment was unproffesional and hostile, that people in charge yelled at everyone for everything, that the stunt and sfx crew were careless and that the producers threated her to return in less than 10 days, but i can also beleave CWs side here, because Ruby Rose was a diversity hire, she was hired not based on her skills, but her sexuality, also if you worked in such enviroment, soon or late you would also become part of the problem with how toxic and dangerous it is. There is no way that a show where the main character quitted after the first season, where she got an injury that almost paralyzed her and where the moral compass of everyone is based on their sexuality has 3 seasons and is ongoing whitow some kind of shady issue.
@@LordofSadFac the productions was probably hell, but I am willing to bet Rudy contributed a lot to that as past coworkers have complained about her being lazy and rude to many on set.
* unless they're conservatives * unless they're serving as a witness for the accused * unless they're acting against things like feminism, abortion, and child indoctrination * unless they're accusing a prominent left wing figure like in the Democrat or Labour Party "Okay, we really don't want you to believe all women, just the ones we're using as meatshields to push our cultural Marxism and globalist agendas. We just use women because the vast, overwhelming, disgustingly demonstrable majority of you are gynocentric tuckfards who wouldn't, and in some cases didn't, give wahmxxn so much as a slap on the wrist for burning their own babies to death."
I worked on the first season of Batwoman, and was actually present for a few of the events you mentioned. The assistant who had a crane lowered onto her head was actually hanging out where she shouldn't have been and was playing on her phone, not paying attention. It was largely her fault. But anyway, the show is terrible (and that's why I left after the first season), but there are a handful of great people on the crew who know it's shit but just want the paycheck. I was one of them. I can confirm that Ruby was rude to a lot of the people on set, though I never experienced that directly. Either way, I'm partial to the idea that the allegations against her are true.
wow, it's so cool to have an actual witness who worked on set! btw if you don't mind could you tell me how you get in to this line of work? it's my dream to works in this industry but i don't know how to get started
I just want to say "the check cleared" is a respectable form of career management in Hollywood. Michael Caine can have much of his explained that way, for one.
@@alexmercer9649 for sure man, it's no problem at all. Like a lot of careers it all boils down to connections and who you know. If you know someone in the industry and they vouch for you when shows are crewing up, you can jump right in. If you don't know anyone, I'd recommend film school. That's the route I took, and while the education itself was largely useless the connections I made during my time there are what allowed me to find work upon graduation. You've got to be hungry and chase after those leads though, I'd say upwards of half of the people I went to school with didn't end up in the industry. That being said it's a ton of fun working on shows and I wouldn't trade it for anything.
@@Vyrnost thanks man! I have asked around and pretty much everyone said the same thing you did so basically Is the same for every country. Thanks for the advice but it's a little problematic for me,you see I actually just finished a two years course in screenwriting in naples south Italy, don't get me wrong the teachers were great but others school in the aerea provided multiple meeting with publisher and similar figures( my of course didn't) and in mid pandemic they cancelled the meeting at the local Comicon ( yep they basically stole the name to the "real one) so now i find myself without any money and without connections😅 I already know It'll be very hard to start in the field so i appreciate every advice, still thanks a lot for the answer.
@Elizabeth Bennett I was simply referring to the fact that I was one of the people on the crew who didn't like the show but wanted the paycheck. The "great people" are those I worked with who don't deserve any flak just because the show isn't popular. I can see how you could've misconstrued my wording and drawn your conclusions with a bit of mental gymnastics on your part, but to infer that I'm a narcissist and accuse me of that as a stranger on the internet is pretty wild. May wanna rethink YOUR words because you come across as having the mind of a child.
I just cant get enough of ur voice and the way you speak. It's so soothing....also most jokes and phrased reacure a lot in ur video's which almost makes it feel like a ASMR channel....been listening for years now....keep it going please👍
7:23 and this is why I come here. Because your perspective of the media content topic o' d' day is 100x more entertaining than actually watching many of these shows, so I get the gist of the trainwreck without having to sit a chair down beside the actual track ^_^' Thanks for all the content over the years, your efforts have brought ya a long way. Pat yourself on the back and pour yourself a drink, fwiw I know you've earned it here ~a random canadian dude in his 40s
Now this is in no way any kind of resolution to the Dougray Scott accusations, but I worked with him for about 2 weeks back in 2008; when he was making Day of the Triffids, and I've got to say that he's a really chill dude. He's very laid back and comes across as easy going and down-to-Earth. He's pretty funny, too, and was always throwing out one-liners. He was respectful to us "little people", and very accommodating and patient. When I first read Rose's comments on him, I immediately thought that they were lies, just because what she said about him didn't seem like the person I'd met, at all. But, as I said, it doesn't mean that it didn't happen. It's just my opinion.
2008 dougary and 2019 dougary have VERY different life experiences, and post batwoman dougary? he could be a broken man, only so much torture, misery, and despair you can take from being involved with such a property as CW superhero show. but yeah, without much proof anyone can make up anything. a lot of people project their perspective of life on others as well. if rose was thtowin fits, she would be lookin for other peoples actions to reinforce her own, "LOOK we're ALL rebelling! *actually alone though"
@@vissermatt1058 You are absolutely right. This is so unfair because at the end one of them will be considerd a crappy actor and nobody will take in account the amount of trauma they suffered by being in such a crappy TV show as Batwoman. I thing that both of them are great actor and the real villain is the crappy show.
I think this production hell tops all others I'm aware of. With Rose's recent claims on what happened behind the scenes, it's even more incredible that this has been renewed. I think the lesson here is that if a show gets out THE MESSAGE, it's all worth it, no matter how much virtue-signalling BS, crew and actor abuse, and damage it causes in the process.
But that's the problem isn't it? It's not actually getting THE MESSAGE out to anyone particular who isn't already on board with it. It's money wasting echo chamber.
Worst production hell I am aware of is the old Wizard of Oz. Toxic make up, body suites the actors couldn't take off during the 12 hours or so of filming causing them to over heat, unsafe pyrotechnics and of course characters getting replaced if they are injured on set to keep the production going. It was made in something like the 1930's I think, sad to see nearly a hundred years later with workers Unions and the like nothing has really changed in hollywood when it comes to worker rights and safety.
@@JustaGuy_Gaming Dont forget that the snow in the poppy field was made of asbestos, and that the actress for Dorothy had to be constantly drugged in order to get through the absurd filming schedule. If im not mistaken, she was only allowed or able to get about 4 hours of sleep every 3 days or something.
Feel really bad for everyone involved, sounds like a nightmare filled with egos and horrible work conditions. I hope everyone who got hurt recovers well and gets taken care of, and that people who causes all of these problems reflect deeply on their character and actions.
8:24 - This video is succinctly summed up in ONE SENTENCE: "Out of the hills to die on in this world, Batwoman has got to be the most undeserving mound of shit that I could imagine" 🤣 Well said Drinker!!
Seriously. The most unbelievable part of Rose's story is that the network was worried about losing millions by not being able to produce more episodes. They could have thrown up a test pattern on the screen during that time slot and gotten the same ratings.
aCtUaLly as a comic book fan, I personally say that Batwoman Kate Kane run was excellent with abrupt and dumb finale. They made a new character with extremely similar name and acknowledged the existence of the previous character. They had great A stories that were not based on her sexuality, that was just part of her background and origin, since it got her booted out of military. B stories usually had something to do with her romance with Maggie Sawyer, a prominent cop in DC comics who transferred from Metropolis to Gotham and was going trough a divorce. I liked the series as a whole. And yes, there were things that SJWs like in it but it was handled as a story, not a MESSAGE. What I did not like about the series was the editorial interference that ended the series with Kate leaving Maggie and cancelling engagement because "heroes cannot be happy".
I think I figured it out. Looking back at Rose’s statement, she says 3 times all the abuse from Scott was aimed at women. This would lead me to disbelieve Rose, as you can see that way she is trying to subtly suggest Scott is a targeted women in a bid to gain support from the liberal leaning industry
I just wonder how in the 80s and 90s when Jackie Chan and Sly Stallone still at peak they actually do their own stunt and having massive injury without anyone complaining, woke
Pffff - it's still a Batman by-product of the lowest order (like, Batman with a vagina). Birds of Prey (the graphic novel, not the movie) at least had original heroines...
I applaud you for putting more efforts in this 8 MINUTE Video to dissect & analyze this series then the Entire Whole staffs in Batwoman production & writer teams as well as CW combined for the entire whole season of 1 & 2...LMAO!!
I'm my experience, when multiple people are launching negative behavior claims at each other and denying ones made against them, they're usually all right about each other but wrong about themselves. So I'm guessing they were all crappy people on set.
@@andreivaldez2929 She immediately categorises people into "matter" and "don't matter", and then conducts herself accordingly. If you don't matter, she treats you like you're utter scum. Like you don't exist. As it turns out, I mattered in her assessment in the context in which we met, so I didn't receive this treatment - but everyone else did. Everyone. I found it almost breathtaking that anyone could be so rude. Don't get me wrong, in the entertainment industry, you expect to deal with divas...and it's a dog-eat-dog industry, so I take it all with a grain of salt. But it's not that she was simply aggressive in a tough industry - she knows how to kiss the right asses and turn on the charm when there's something in it for her. It's that she ONLY EVER PUNCHES DOWN. Assistants, receptionists, customer service staff, baristas...anyone who she deems is of no benefit to her receives scathing, palpable contempt. The worst part of it is, whilst she is borderline sociopathic towards others, she perpetually claims to be a victim. She bleats incessantly about her depression and anxiety and self harm and plays the victim card first time, every time. She claims to be a spokesperson for mental illness and a champion of the oppressed...yet I've seen her leave customer service staff virtually in tears with how horrendously rude she is. I don't know how much people know about her pre-Hollywood, but she's Australian and was kicking around Sydney and Melbourne for years before she got placed in film. She as a reputation in particularly Sydney as being one to avoid. I know several people that saw her on a regular basis in a service provider context that ended up refusing to see her because she treated them so poorly. It's tragic that young girls look up to her as a role model. She's poison, and if people knew the misery she inflicts on those around her, they'd think differently.
You know that saying "It's like watching a train wreck" because a situation is so crazy that you just can't stop watching? (Or something like that.) *This video!* This video is just that good. 😋 I've watched it several times and it never gets old.
There was a rumor about Rose’s injuries at some point : Allegedly, she would actually have gotten it while filming a movie who didn’t have proper insurance and then decided to put it on Batwoman production to get on their insurance.
"...and starring a motley collection of has-beens and never-will-bes." Damn, that feels like it especially hits hard for Dougray Scott. Dude was almost Wolverine in the 2000s X-Men movies but had to back out due to his Mission Impossible 2 role. He maybe could have had Hugh Jackman's career!
Dougray Scott was also nearly cast as James Bond. It was down to him and Craig and they picked Craig. The guy who only did the last one for the money literally, and whom "hates bond." So yeah, that's loosing out on 2 major high profile roles only to end up as a villain in several hit films with mixed reception...and treated like one in batwoman because awful writers.
@@reprobatemind6194 Which is why Hugh Jackman‘s performance was superior. Wolverine like his animal name sake it’s not a big imposing person, but vicious as hell. There’s no way a skinny developed guy could’ve played that role
Dollars to donuts, BOTH Rose and Scott were awful assholes who treated everyone else like shit, AND the studio cut lots of corners to save money that resulted in a horribly unsafe set.
Apparently, Scott is a gentleman on set and even talks and mingles with the cast, if any of the comments claiming to be film crew that have worked with him are anything to go by.
