20:41 "And do you know what pissed me off the most? No fucking wings!" Mary Lou, your last two acts in life were trolling a priest and having premarital sex with someone who wasn't your boyfriend. In your position, I'd be more shocked I didn't end up in HELL rather than pissed I didn't go to heaven.
This is what I love about Phelous; even if he hates a movie he tells why, what would have worked, and anything the movie did right. Of course, in this case, I totally loved the story he came up with more than the movie itself. New favorite episode since CryWolf.
To tell the truth, if I were a 17-year old ghost, I would forget about the revenge and enjoy life in a new hot body in the 80s. It would be like a second chance to live, why not use it properly?
That would actually be a great movie plot. A 1950s spirit of a teen girl taking over the thoughts and movements of a teen girl of the 1980s. Just imagine the laughs. If only the creators went with a comedy movie and not a horror film, but a sad type of comedy because the ghost only got to live as the 1980s girl life for a month, a second chance from God to redeem herself from past actions through assisting the 1980s girl who has lost hope with life due to a terminal illness and the spirit eventually helps the 1980s teen towards the end. However, it's not a totally happy ending for the 1980s girl still dies but with a greater understanding about life. They are both seen holding hands as they ascend to the heavens. The 1950s girls earned her wings, while the task to assist others has been passed onto the 1980s girl to assist a teen girl of the 2000s, thus a sequel will be written from a 2000s perspective. I'm just throwing ideas out there is all.
Actually petroleum based dry cleaning solvents were common up till the 20's and I can see someone using kerosene as a cheap, yet effective way of cleaning a dress before prom. ALSO... If that dress is a synthetic fiber, like polyester, it would light up like a Christmas tree!
Mr Shigura I know that. I was just mentioning that someone (a cheapskate) *could* use kerosene to clean a dress. And it would depend on the kind of stink bomb you create as some can contain flammable ingredients.
In a remake, it would be a good backstory to have Mary Lou maybe be secretly poor (keeps it secret because she’s ashamed of it and doesn’t fit her desired image) and she has to buy a second hand prom dress, which she cleans with kerosene from a magazine tip or something.
Phelous' movie idea proposed around 22:00 minutes sounds amazing! No real bad guy, motivations all make sense, Vicky trying to escape the mental distorted world would be awesome and creepy, and the idea of a confused antagonist (without them just being crazy) feels original. Phelous write this movie!
I get the feeling that Mary Lou wasn't always right in the head and dying and being trapped in that case for 30 years probably cranked up her insanity to 20 lvls
Clearly, the ghosts of his past selves we're trapped in it. That's why it disappeared when the grave exploded at the end. Why? Wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff... Or it went off to battle Burt Reynolds's mustache.
♫ it was acceptable in the 80's it was acceptable at the tiiiiiiime ♫ @ 7:04 LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO As an 80's fashion survivor, that really resonated with me
Even though the rest of the movie is really bland, I really love the scenes for the Nightmare World. The sets and props for those parts are just really well done
9:39 The plot purpose of Vicki's friend getting pregnant and dumped is when she dies later everyone thinks she committed suicide because of what happened to her before.
Tobe Fair: The plastics within the fabrics many dresses (especially “fancy” ones) were made with at that time were extremely flammable. They acted like a wick, not easily put out, and melted onto/into the wearer’s skin, causing it to be impossible to take off. Truly a death trap.
Michael "Fisher" Ironside (Splinter Cell) as the principal and the voice of Sailor Moon (Terrie Hawks) as Kelly is always fun to watch. Sam Fisher and Sailor Moon in one movie....SCORE!
This (along with the Amityville lamp episode) is among my absolute favorite! No matter how many times I rewatch this video, I laugh every time! I’ve been watching these videos for years and I will continue rewatching them. Thanks for the laughs!
This looks pretty interesting, though flawed. It's too bad they didn't keep up a consistent tone. The chalk board scene looked cool and creepy. Love the practical effect there. Though, sigh, I really do wish it was metaphorical and not literal. Still, overall this looked like a much more interesting flick than I would have initially expected. I might just check it out. Thanks for the review!
I remember watching this back when i was in college in the early 90's. It was a small town and the video store was like 90% straight to video horror, such good times.
No I think being upset about no wings is understandable. I mean, if I got to Heaven and someone had already eaten all the bbq wings, I'd be pretty pissed off too.
*Real Ghostbusters-based theory:* I _think_ what happened here was an attempted _merger,_ not possession. The crown was a "focal point," Mary Lou needed an "innocent" to draw strength from, but as 2 souls _can't_ live in the same body at once, she slowly overtook Wendy. This process was traumatic, hence ML random "lashing out" wasn't about "revenge". Her death tied her to the school, so ML needed to recreate prom/finish business to be "broken free" and move on.
"She covered her prom dress in gasoline, a tradition that never made it out of the fifties." Why is it I could believe people would do that in the fifties? I mean, they did use coca-cola as a contraceptive back then.
God I love how simple but effective the silhouette to close-up jumpscare was. Even better as it was in one character's point of view and not just a camera movement.
This movie definitely could need a complete remake, not just parts of it. Because some parts of it definitely were executed well only to then go back to its previous silliness.
22:43 Since you brought up the Silent Hill map, I wanna mention that Bachman Rd. is named after Stephen King's pseudonim and Matheson St. is named after Richard Matheson, the author of I Am Legend, The Shrinking Man , Prey (adapted into that killer tribal doll segment in Trilogy of Terror), Terror at 20,000 feet (that famous Twilight Zone episode with gremlin on the wing of the plane) and Duel (adapted into Steven Spielberg's first film that got him the directing job for Jaws). Steven King even says Matheson was his biggest influence as a writer, so this author pretty much created Stephen King and Steven Spielberg.
Instead of Vicki just being a random student at the school, though, I wish she had actually been Mary Lou's niece and her mom was Mary Lou's sister so that's why she's as unlike her as possible, she DID know of her and felt really sorry about what happened to her, she could even want to help her cross over by helping right the wrong when she realizes her ghost is in her head. I would never have called this Prom Night 2 either, that's for sure, it deserves to be its own thing.
Prom Night movie series actually captured the stupidity that is the 1950s. People always romanticize the 1950s... but people were severely arrogant and stupid in that decade. No stop, drop, roll, no fire extinguishers in schools, nothing of a coherent plan when it comes to fire safety or ending the burn... and forget about suicidal hotlines and counseling... there were none. Don't get me started with how they treated individuals with disabilities and/or disorders. It was just as shitty of a time as the decades before it. As a disable person, this era is the best time to be alive... if only I was born a little later. Kids today with disabilities and/or disorders have no idea how good and easy they have it compare to their forefathers and foremothers.
That “her hair will never die” thing was kinda funny to me for 2 reasons 1: there’s a myth that hair keeps growing after you die but in fact it’s a deceptive effect due to your skin shrinking in a way 2: hair is just made up of dead cells so yeah her hair will never die because it was dead from the moment she was born
Not really "forced on it". It was always 'Prom Night's sequel, even before the name change. The producers planned a sort-of anthology series with each installment somehow relating to a different horrible event at Hamilton High School's 1957 prom. I'm not sure why they ended up redoing the Mary Lou story but part 4 is about an escapee psycho priest who kills teen couples on prom night, the first victims being in 1957. I kinda wish we got more just to see how many tragedies they can cram into the 1957 prom.
Mri-lou ketting out of Vicky's body as a zombie is terrifying! It's more scary than modern horor movies. Seriously, the practical effects are amazing; so well done 🙂
*Puts on Nitpick Glasses* Actually that was the original North American dub of SM. The actual original anime is in Japaneses and far better. *Takes Nitpick Glasses Off* Sorry, as a big fan I get protective, lol.
Ahh it's No problem @@KristenDETW I try to Remind myself that the English Dub and the Japanese Version are not the same thing... Well It is the same with the Plot of the Story and the Anime, But you get what I mean.
I haven't thought about it for years! I remember as a kid this movie (in a mutilated, safe for TV version) would often come on late at night, and since there was nothing else on, I would watch it. (Thanks a lot mom, for not getting HBO!) :(
This is like a horror version of the 1996 Disney Channel movie, Susie Q. Both are about a teenage girl from the 50s who died at prom (although in Susie Q, she and her date were on the way to prom when they died, when their car went crashing out a covered bridge, like the Maitlands in Beetlejuice)
I love how Christine is just annoyed at the demonic rocking horse, like it coming to life and making creepy reptilian eyes at her is an everyday occurrence.
Honestly, I really love that Mary Lou is less about vengeance and more just a horrible person. Most female horror villains are written to suffer a ton and are almost too sympathetic imo. It's cool seeing one being campy and having a blast just hurting others like male slashers get to.
I do wonder if the idea of Mary Lou possessing the main character was thought out a lot better at some point and just got muddled into a mess by adding edgy scenes in. This is a movie that could be remade (or at least reedited) into something half decent.
This is probably one of you best reviews Phelan, you go over the aspects you like and dislike while still showing the overall story, and talk about the stuff you think should have been changed for it actually be creepier and be more engaging and still remained funny as you did so. Nice work
Hey, to be fair, my high school's prop room was in the dungeon next to the sketchy murder/sex hallway. I really wish I was joking, but I'm not. To get to our prop room, you had to go to the basement, walk past the sketchy hallway that was always closed off that was only lit by a single light, go past the 60s era looking makeup/costume room. and then into the cluttered ass prop room locked with a key that was so cramped that props spilled out into the hallway. It was terrifying to go alone.
Them staring is possible. A similar situation happened where a woman was stabbed as over several people watched. It is an odd thing people will stand around unless charge is taken.
That's the whole inspiration for the brothers in Boondock Saints. You even hear a priest sermonizing about it as they walk in to pray. A woman stabbed on the street over and over in broad daylight and no one helped her. This happens a lot in movies, but sadly happens way more often in real life. Too many people freeze up with shock and confusion and are very conflicted about issues of personal safety versus helping a stranger in immediate danger. Tragic, but it is human nature.
I love the Shaggy reference ya' did :D Main-type character. I saw one of the remake Scooby Doo shows. It made me... What's the diplomatic, gentle way to put it...? FUCKING ANGRY!!! GRAH!!! Watched the classics. Instantly cheered! May the classics live on ^_^
No offense, but there really wasn't mush to the original Scooby Doo. Same plot, every episode. Rinse, and repeat. The newer shows are the same boring shit.
Dead Master You don't understand episodic shows. Back in the day, they were meant for you to pick it up at any time since reruns weren't a thing at the time. And even when reruns came about, Not everyone knew when they'd be on.
Zucca Xerfantes "You don't understand episodic shows." Oh, I do. I rather enjoy Regular Show. The thing with that show, is every episode is a different story. Scooby Doo was the same story, every episode. Even my mother, who grew up with the show, realizes this.
Dead Master The details were different. Good gravy, it was one of the earliest regular animations to air. It's like going back and using Windows 1.0 and complaining that it's just awful. It was a stepping stone. Got lots of kids interested in mystery stories, detective tales and solving crimes.
