Punishment in Video Games 

lol

Took the words out of my mouth.

Um, what???

@@greenapple9477 You’ll figure it out

​@@greenapple9477 whether or not I can explain the joke depends on your age. That might just be enough of a hint

The Skinner box thing is kind of the problem with video games in general. Addictive ones are so profitable that the financial incentive for developers is always to make a game more addictive. There’s even tons of discourse about how to make games more addictive on the internet, and a game being addictive is sometimes lauded as an achievement by the player. Pretty weird.

Sandbox games exist. They don't use operant conditions much. E.g. minecraft and stardew valley both are like this.

@@BBG07endlessahh

​@@BBG07endless I think when people praise games for being "addictive" it's usually because what they mean is that the game is really engaging. I do also find it really weird when people say that, it's just strange. I think it's the same thing when people say a game looks good they say that the game's "graphics" are good, even though what they actually mean is that the game's aesthetics are good. Can't really blame the average person for using the word "graphics" though, as even many professional writers (including video creators) use that word to describe games' visuals. I would love it if gaming one day finally got these terms sorted out and standardized.

I was going to leave a comment about the discussion since I work as a Behavior Technician, but I think you've got an even better handle of the concept than I would! The only thing in the video I really wanted to mention was that reinforcers don't HAVE to be something pleasant and punishers don't HAVE to be unpleasant. Anecdotally, there's often a correlation, but the important part is whether they increase or decrease a particular behavior. The video does at least get close to the idea, but it's also a concept that isn't necessarily intuitive to grasp.

There's a bad ending in wandersong? 🤔 I'm intrigued but also slightly afraid

Didn't know about that ending either. Nice to hear that you're playtesting Greg's new game, I really liked Wandersong

It is also cool as it, whether unintentionally or not, references stale moves- spamming moves in a game (usually a fighting game) weakening their damage as they become "stale", a form of punishment for spamming one move.

In my opinion, the worst ending is Pacifist after Genocide.

I feel like losing most positive dialogue and experiencing the saddest storyline is more like a bad ending than asgore dead

No, genocide is what you get when playing undertale like a normal RPG, instead of an anti-RPG. It's a trap, for playing "regularly".

@@marcoasturias8520 No, it isn't. To get genocide you need to spend a lot of time farming, like hours to kill all the monsters. Just killing all monsters you find will only give you neutral, that's why I said genocide is supposed to be secret, creepy and kinda like a misterious rumour, because to kill every single monster it takes a lot of effort and time

@@tpfoxCastro farming is the most normal thing to do in a conventional rpg

Frankly this sounds like an amazing idea! I've been thinking about it the past few days because my main issue is what physical and chemical changes would entail like, wouldn't all Pyro-moves be chemical? Freezing moves by definition would all be physical. They seem to restrict the type a lot while I want moves of both varieties for every type. Still, thank you for the great suggestion, I'll need to chew on the idea some more.

@@n0rtist that is a good point. Maybe if you wanted to, you could have it as a visual thing that certain moves are labeled as physical and chemical just for the science relation. If not, having a creature based on physical and chemical changes would be really cool if you haven't already! Probably with 2 forms, each based on physical or chemical changes.

BTW he's at 99.8k subs. We might get a special STEMA video.