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It's going to split the community and all the PVE people are going to get bored and leave forever after they've maxed out all that they're allowed to on their safe servers and if they do venture into the regular C's, they're going to get absolutely destroyed by people who've been doing nothing but fighting each other the entire time. This could very well kill the game and it's funny because they've spent years saying that we would never get PVE servers and now they've finally caved to the mob. Which makes me think that they might have been desperate to pull this move
@@magicpyroninjaPeople are already getting destroyed as new players right now. And please stop assuming what people will do or not do. This is pretty moot as far as points go.
@@magicpyroninja I expect something else. Tuccers & constant PvP'ers getting bored that they cannot fish anymore easy wins. Worldevents being more deserted than before cause everyone thinks they are entitled to *STEAL* them but not to start them... 😏 and so on. Also... still waiting for being able to spend my gold & doubloons directly for allegiance. No one needs the 1000's recolor.
I usually avoid pvp because I don't have the crew, wifi, and/or patience for it, and I never find another crew that can have a good time like you do. I don't even have a gaming crew to ask, "Hey, wana play Sea of Thieves?" That doesn't say an F word once every 5 minutes.
I fall into the “I just want to chill after a stressful day at work” crowd as well as the “Leave me alone while I do this tall tale” crowd, so I definitely intend to participate in Safer Seas with my crew. I just want to chill, fish, listen to my music, and enjoy the game’s absolutely gorgeous atmosphere. Adult life is intense lately and I need that relaxing escape.
i'm right there with you, but i should still get everything i payed for except teh PVP junk, i still haven't made it to the area in the pirate legend cave because i don't like the PVP and script kiddies in the game it shouldn't be limited, i paid full price, i get a full game,
@@Navy6438 trust me, you're not missing much the way hourglass is. PVP does have its fun aspects. The only thing I'll going to safer seas for will mostly be the achievements on release. I like the interactions with other players. I'm the kind of person who might show up on your ship and just start driving it around because you weren't paying attention. I also am willing to alliance with others and help new players. Just last night we 2 manned a gally. At the beginning of the session I swam over to another player's ship and started sailing it around the island because he was AFK. He decided it was a bright idea to attack us when we finally got one of the crew mates we were waiting for and were getting ready to portal into the tale. Needless to say, he sunk. At the end of the session we were looking for someone to mess with. When we finally found someone, we struck. They would have sunk if it wasn't for me bailing a few times to give me time to put their ship where I wanted it and my crewmate repairing. Then we chased them for a while laughing at how afraid they were of a 2 man gally. We finally got them into a party and decided to do some TDMs. We also found out that one of them was a new player, so we made him TDM so he could get some actual PVP practice and advice as a requirement for them to get the little bit of random loot and supplies we had acquired. The point is that it's the interactions that are important, not necessarily pvp/no pvp. You don't necessarily have to sink anyone to steal treasure or supplies either. My problem is not with pvp itself but the fact that we have so many players right now wanting to be pvp lords that they miss out on the rest of the possibilities within the gambit of interactions.
Same here! I stopped playing ages ago due to the game becoming too stressful for a solo player with limited time. My job is stressful and I game to relax.
Even the most relaxing games have some sort of pressure to play well. Even Stardew Valley punishes you for going slow. Safer seas won't be relaxing, it'll be boring.
@@grayknight9453good thing you're not forced to play safer seas then, yeah? You even get less boredom in high seas because there are more PvP-ready players, right?
This will be better for everybody in the long run. I've seen a ton of people saying that they will play the game because of the addition of this mode. People who play high seas will not have to chase people doing tall tales for hours and new players can do their first voyage without a DA brig spawn camping them.
If you say so, those people will come back for a short while they get bored and then they'll quit the game for good. And if they do venture into the normal seas they're going to find only hardened combat vets which they can't possibly fight because they never learned how to fight. This is going to split the community and possibly kill the game
@@magicpyroninjaNew players come and go because they get killed by veterans in adventure already. If they get a feel for the game and have a chance to level up, they will be more likely to play high seas and get better at the game instead of just dropping it.
it is better,but selling loot gives you so littlle gold in safer seas,will make new players get bored really fast, rare should at least give full amount of gold for selling loot,not many new players wants to collect loot and get only 30% of the amount in pvp servers
@@magicpyroninja I seriously doubt the high seas are gonna get that unmanageable all of a sudden. I'm sure all the limitations on safer seas are there to balance that situation out. This is not gonna split anything that isn't already split, stop being so dramatic over something that doesn't really affect you.
@@t2comicbooksoverviews251 No, 30% is the perfect amount; enough for a player to get a taste. They are going to find a shiny cosmetic they want, grind for a bit in Safer Seas, and then one of two things will happen. They will get frustrated, switch to high seas for more gold, get wrecked, and quit (which they would have done anyway, so Safer Seas changes nothing), or they get wrecked, go back to Safer Seas, practice naval and boarding combat on some Skeleton ships, grind a little more for that cosmetic, and come back to the High Seas ready for a fight. Not as an unbeatable sweatlord, but as a practiced player with realistic expectations; something that does not happen currently. 100% Progression IS what would make PvE servers a bad thing. If people get all the reward and none of the risk, there is no drive to leave the safe space
I have never seen an argument for not having PvE servers that didn’t boil down to “-But then the defenseless players can escape from me and I’ll have to fight ships that can *fight back* and I don’t want that, PvE servers are taking my easy kills away from me!’”
And this isn't even considering the fact that no matter the crew, anyone could be an easy prey if you time your attack and angles correctly. I know it's easier said than done, but a little cunning goes a long way to sink even the strongest PvP crews fast and dip.
Unless the players really stay in this progression black hole nothing changes. As if that safe space prepares you for anything, as soon as they enter high seas they are still easy prey. Maybe even more so because they learn bad habits like anchoring, bad parking, etc. which might manifest rather hard if they actually managed to get to 40 in all factions in that mode
Nail on the head there buddy, but you forgot the part about "I'm just looking out for my vict... um, my fellow sailors. Yeah, if they go off playing on their own without me there to teach them 'how to play properly' then they won't get the full game experience." These are the people with millions in gold, bought ever cosmetic that they want in the game, have all the stuff unlocked that they could ever want, and nothing better to do than prey on people that honestly just don't want to spend all of their time fighting. They seem to forget that when they started playing 5 years ago, the seas weren't full of manhunters on every horizon, it was full of players that were all trying to figure out the game and explore, and do the most basic parts of the game. They didn't have to deal with tryhards, and sweats every second of their playtime, most of the people they did come across were asking for help with a task, not there just to kill them for being in the game.
It's funny how the idea of finally allowing every player to be able to pick and choose how they want to play the game is seen as the end of the game entirely. Rare is finally upholding the promise they made in the trailer of the game over 5 years ago, "you will be able to play the game in your own way." Up until Safer Sea's there hasn't been a way to play the game how you wish unless you wish to constantly be hunted down. Sails are easy to be spotted from miles away, thus you can never go unnoticed no matter what you do. When my friends and I were playing we would just quit out and relog into a new server and start all over again... constantly. So yeah, we quit playing. "That's so incredibly toxic" I hear all the time, and I'm not going to reward players that are actively going out of their way to ruin my time. I don't care about your enjoyment of the game because you clearly don't care about mine. The most insulting thing about this whole issue is the justification of the extremely toxic behavior of the vast majority of the SoT community is "It's a pirate game". Because history tells us that pirates only ever hunted down other pirates in cold blood and nothing else, right? They didn't form their own capital cities, and controlled vast areas of the seas in which other nations paid them tolls for safe passage. No Pirate ever offered aid to his fellow sailors in need, or split rewards after joining forces. Every moron defending their actions of PVP with the brainless announcement of It'S a PiRaTe GaMe probably can't read and is only able to spend all day playing SoT because they have nothing else to offer to the rest of humanity. If you are part of the opinion that "people just wanting to play a game and nothing more offends me", then you are the one that doesn't need to be playing this game. Because if you are so full of hatred that you feel that you NEED to make everyone else just as miserable as you, then you don't deserve to even be a part of this game.
Yeah all chests can turn into the wooden broken ones and I will still only play in the pve server, pvp is for streamers, try hards, angry teenagers with something to prove cause irl they can't do shit, children with anger issues and grifers that don't even take your loot they just follow you around ruin your day and leave, hope pve make rare LOOOADS of money so they notice who actually brings in the income, ppl with job and little time, and slowly it devours the pvp server and sot 2 is fully PvE to reeeeeeaaallly rub in the salt on that wound, literally everyone I know quit or never wanted to play because of pvp and they all say they will give it another shot now, I think the player base is gonna double and rare will slowly make more PvE stuff and maybe a fully PvE only server with separate stats so if you play on PvE your stats don't carry and we can fully make 2 servers that will never interact
I'm a very anxious, paranoid person. Stressing about other ships kills me. I love this game. I love the fishing and the vibes and the silly physics. To me this is a chatroom with objectives. To me, safe seas is an opportunity to just have fun and relax. Enjoy the game. I don't care about PvP objectives and I probably never will. If I rejoin PvP it will be years from now when I have more experience, and that's a big if. And that's ok because without safe seas I would never play again anyway.
Exactly. Some people don't realize that Safer Seas will actually bring significantly more people back to the game. The toxic High Seas community still don't realize they are the cause of the Safer Seas addition either. For years, they've been running new customers away from the game by the thousands. Toxic communities and bugs kill games faster than anything else I've seen over the decades.
Couldnt have said it better. once all the nerdy PvP players leave the game I'd happily go back into PvP mode, but I'm tired of being threatened to get booted offline and swatted for sinking a ship that started a fight they couldnt win in a damn video game
yup never playing pvp again and you cannot convince me otherwise. i stopped playing because im not sweaty enough and dont enjoy combat in this game enough to care... coming from someoen who plays overwatch
I think if they add the full SoT experience to pve, it would benefit everyone. people who want the pvp experience can stick to pvp, and people who *dont* want pvp, and just want a fun game to play with friends, can enjoy pve
This will just ruin the game. Might as well cater the full game around pve then. Add quests and noc's and all that and add pvp in a darkzone type enviroment like the division. This would work much better than just completely splitting the community in half
@@7GamesUnlimited7 They are not splitting the community in half at all. I'm not even part of the PVP community so how can they split it if we are not part of it in the first place. It does not make sense.
I'm all for giving players new ways to experience the game and allowing people to play the game in the way they want to experience it. Me and my bro are very excited about this change, finally no more passive stress doing tall tales, just relax and experience story, dig up a bunch of treasures and fight with skeleton ships.
I agree wholeheartedly. I uninstalled the game because I got so sick of the super sweaty PvP toxicity. No respect for people who white flag because they work for a living and don't have time to play the game 40 hours a week to get good at PvP . Now I have an option to chill and enjoy the game with friends. I will go high seas and PvP when I the mood for it, but won't take up a server slot for those who want to PvP when I just want to chill. You would think that everyone would like this. But I noticed the true crybabies, are the people that insisted you have 2 PVP whether you want to or not. So basically the only people that are losing out in this update are the salty crybaby pvpers whose only enjoyment is griefing everybody else. Sorry, not sorry.
@@MarkC-ji1kw I don't understand why it is so difficult for people to comprehend that I paid money for the game, and I should be able to play it the way that I want to play it. Just like you play the game how you want to play it. All this does is give people an option to not PVP if they don't want to. Why would you care how someone else wants to play their game? It's not like it's going to take anything away from you. The people that like pvp'ing are still going to PVP. All this does is make it more convenient to play for those of us who don't spend 40 hours a week in the game to get good at PVP or who only have time to play on the weekend and don't feel like getting griefed when all they want to do is fish and chill and play the story content with their friends instead of playing a bunch of PVP, sink everything you see type gameplay. This literally does not affect you in any way shape or form.
@@willshepherd4544 that’s great and have fun on safer seas. I’ll just never understand the mentality that people who attack you are “griefing”. Thieving is part of the game. If putting up a white flag or politely asking people not to steal your treasure was something to be respected how would anyone ever steal anything? How would anyone compete over world events? Whoever gets there first is entitled to the spoils? I have zero problems with you going and playing on safer seas, I fo have a problem with the sense of entitlement I’ve seen from many players who think getting sunk in their multiplayer pirate game is a personal affront and think they are entitled to their loot. Up until safer seas launches you are entitled to follow rares TOS and play the game as it’s designed in a shared world where risk is part of the equation. Nobody’s griefing you unless they are spawn camping without the intent to sink or hurling slurs or cheating. Have fun with the new game mode.
Nothing more annoying than chilling in the tavern waiting for your friends to get on, and your ship gets sunk by pvp sweats before you even step foot on the ship
Why is it so annoying lmao it’s not like u bought anything u just respawn at a different outpost or back out and log back into a different server and a lot of the times u get sunk at a outpost is because people are coming to sell and I’m not about to sell my stack of loot with somebody on the same island as me ur just sitting ducks
@@ZomBillyFPS if you don’t understand why that’s annoying then you are part of the problem. There’s multiple outposts for a reason, go sell your loot at a different one..
@@matthewmarrello323bro wdym? Why should they have to sail another 20 min to another outpost when they can just sink you and sell the loot then. You dont loose anything anyway, just respawn at a different one and set sail, the people selling cant risk you tucking on the outpost to sell there good loot either, what if they had a chest of legends onboard? They can't take risk, just respawn and play, stop crying over nothing, there just saving time.
@matthewmarrello323 if you are just sitting in the tavern and not keeping your boat safe, no matter when you're playing, YOU are part of the problem. I shouldn't have to change anything in MY gameplay to keep YOU happy. My advice... spawn in, get on your ship and raise anchor, then wait for your friends. If you see a ship coming, you can just drop sail and leave
@@yumfffddif it takes you 20 minutes to sail to an outpost that's a you problem lmao. Other than that what the hell is the point of sinking a ship with no one on it and no loot?
This is 100% better for me. When I play with my friends its after a day of work and we log on for 3-4 hours to play. We stopped playing 4 months ago because of PvP bullies coming in and just killing us and ruining our time. This will allow me to play and have a fun experience with my friend. I hope they progress and open more PVE options just lowering the rewards so its more of a grind. I would rather grind at only 30% than be bullied after a long day of work. I would grind at 10% to avoid the bullies and make my own stories and memories. I dont have the time to “get good at PVP.” I would rather fight skeleton ships and have a good time and make those memories.
@@mountainrogue3448 Because it takes 30 min to supply a ship, unless you pay gold for supplies, which in that case is worth running away as well Noone wants to spend the whole gaming session just resupplying your ship
I agree with this. There's so much PVE content to enjoy, and most of us literally can't, because of PVP sweatlords insisting that the game is PVP focused and that we should all just "Get Good". I seriously hope Safer Seas turns the entire game on its' head and Rare just up and gives us full on PVE servers with a PVP side mode like you mentioned. That would honestly be the best possible version of this game imho.
I disagree with the last point. I think it would actually be a good thing to make a PVE server a full-blown thing and have events for people to do so they can learn mechanics without having to worry about some guy trolling them sinking their ship and then continuously yelling "it's a pirate game" but now with PVE servers that's probably going to change to " why don't you just play on the PVE server then?" Other than this I agree with all of their points
@@myric1173@myric1173 alright, well nobody is gonna feel bad for you if you ever get out of your mom's house and have a life and try to play a game that advertises itself to pve players but in reality just makes them regret spending the hefty sum, not to mention by the time they realize they don't like the pvp sweatlords the refund period is most likely over so now they just wasted a few hours of a check they earned, not mom or dad's credit card, but since they don't have hours upon hours like you they won't ever be able to compete with a person sitting around playing the game for hours on end because they have nothing better to do
As a player that almost entirely plays solo I love this. Back in the day when i always sailed with a crew I loved pvp because even when we sank we were having fun with each other but nowadays since im alone and mostly sailing to complete some task, pvp is more of nuisance derailing me from my goal.
As a fellow solo slooper with over 4000 hours invested into this game, I couldn't disagree more. Playing solo was a decision you consciously made, knowing you will be playing in a lobby that will most likely not be filled with other solo players. You knowingly choose to put yourself at this handicap. It's like signing up for a team sports league, showing up to the game, and being mad that the other team has a full team while you are by yourself.
@@gr1mington952yeah ok we get it, you're so good at the game bro lol. People know that there is pvp in a game like this and still choose to play in hopes to not encounter it(since there are many times you get dead servers) to do various things like tall tales, fishing, chill, or learn, etc. Their not thinking "I'm gonna handicap myself cuz I CHOOSE to play solo". Some of them can't even choose, it's literally the only way to play for them. You might like the handicap, but for others they have no choice but to just go with it. And when they do encounter pvp which they didn't want to, it's going to be an annoyance for them. Now with safe servers they can. I can understand your argument about sports teams if this was team shooter or moba/team strategy game. But sea of thieves is a bit different. It's more of an open adventure game with potential danger of pvp. It's got plenty of things that non pvpers are drawn to, so since they like 90 percent of the game their gonna play still, and when they encounter the 10 percent they don't like they'll just be annoyed and deal with it.
I think they misunderstood the whole point of what PvE players enjoy... Also it has been proven the majority of PvP players dislike fighting other PvP players- because that's too difficult. They LIKE sinking and fighting people who can't fight back.
That makes it so funny though. I love everything about the game. Except the p v p and only because of the attitude of the players they're so toxic. 😂 love this for them.
Played Sea of Thieves for the first time in 2021 as a solo player, put ~30-40 hours into it before quitting because I was sick of being killed whenever I was trying to do story/PVE content. That's fine, it's PVP game. When I saw the Monkey Island crossover reveal my thoughts weren't 'I can't wait to play that' it was 'What a shame that I won't ever get to play it'. PVE servers mean I will come back and actually play the content.
Monkey Island content was empty of players, for me. I'm convinced it was instanced per crew, but I also didn't play it until a week ago when I came back to SOT after quitting years ago due to all my crew slowly leaving the game.
you can play monkey island without any worry its instanced only you and your crew members there and you also get the shanty if you get all commendations and story is so good its just monkey island !
honestly, the whole "its a pvp game" argument is something i have always disagreed with. its a game with PVP in it. but its not a PVP game. if it was just a pvp game then there would be no PVE elements, and without PVE pvp would be fighting over literally nothing.
I see it as big positive. With this mode added I will play the game and without it I would never touch it anyways. So it's a win-win for me and game devs.
i remember the argument for the longest time was if they ever did this, it would kill pvp servers because casuals would only play the others. well i haven't played the game since it first came out because pvp just isn't what i like to play so i was never on the pvp servers anyway lol. im happy i can finally come back and explore this gorgeous game.
This is actually great. New players have enough trouble learning how to sail their ships without worrying about sweatlords lol. It's like practice and building confidence on the seas before jumping off the plank. Maiden voyage hardly even touches upon gameplay and my first time I crashed my way through it on the ship then was woefully unprepared for the main seas.
I’m very excited about pve servers and at this point it’s actually the only thing stopping me from uninstalling. I’ve got hundreds of hours on the seas and I’m just tired of PvP. I want to be able to go on an adventure without the constant stress of other players. I don’t care about progression or gold, I just want an immersive adventure. So either way the PvP servers would lose people like me as players because we will either uninstall or go play pve, and in that scenario anyone thinking straight should be happy for us that pve will now be an option.
Someone I can agree with! I’ve played this game since release, I’ve had my fun in pvp, I’ve made my gold, all my guilds are maxed, and I own 10 ships. But alas I am so glad rare is finally adding pve servers even if they dumbed it down a lot. True veterans of the game just want to chill and help the new homies out, not sink them because they’re doing a vault.
@@yeboibingus9502 I’m in agreement with you both! I just want to casually do a tall tale without annoying basement dwellers yelling into the mic & consistently ruining the vibe. I have no interest in rank or gold. This mode will also be great for convincing friends to try out the game… or maybe even getting my gf to try again.
@@StealthyZombie I 100% agree with you on that! We will actually be able to explore the seas and islands without having to constantly look over our shoulders! My only fear on sea of thieves now is the kraken
I'm on the opposite side in that I hope this eventually just turns into full PVE servers. I don't play for PVP or to try and buddy up with people (beyond ALWAYS having an Alliance flag up) and I never will. I just like sailing the ship, the mechanics, the atmosphere, and going around doing missions and enjoying the skelly/ghost ship/kraken battles that I come upon. I always have SoT installed because I really like that part of it, but inevitably it is ruined by a full galleon swinging by and sinking my ship when I'm on an island, or chasing me across the map. If, as you say, there are lots of people who like the thrill of high seas, then why are you worried that there might eventually be a place for people who aren't interested in that? If Safer Seas removes people who don't want to do PVP thus making the PVP more active on your servers, why not just let them stay in their own safe little world forever? Your argument is either that this will encourage people to PVP, which it certainly won't for me, or that you NEED shitty PVPers to pick on in order for YOU to have fun. I am well beyond the lvl 40 mark so Safer Seas means nothing to me, and therefore I won't be back for S10. It didn't encourage me to go "get good", I just simply am not going to be playing. And that is fine, not every game needs to be for everyone. I can already see the replies to this saying "this game isn't for you then" but they will for sure be meaner. I appreciate your take and all your videos, I just don't align with you on this one.
I 100% agree. Everyone argues that it’s sea of “THIEVES” but it’s so much more than that for a lot of players. I love going on fun pirate adventures with my boyfriend. But so many times our adventures are ruined by bullies who would chase us for hours even if we had no treasure on us to take. We don’t have hours to waste like that so we stopped playing. The people who are upset about the new pve servers are clearly just upset they’ll have less weaker players to mess with
@@karomiooo There really isn't anything that I know of that compares to SoT as a pirate adventure game. I love everything about this game. Except PvP which I loathe. It was designed originally as a PvP game. I understand this. But things change and grow. There is a huge player base that loves the game but hates being attacked and sunk by other players. Most of my friends who were frequent players have given up and moved on to other things because of this. There's no reason Rare can't have all these customers back if they provide servers where players who don't want to be attacked can play with out that fear. If you like PvP, use your hourglass and fight against other people who want to fight you. When you chase and sink players who don't want to fight you, you're just a bully.
SoT is way too good and unique of a game to be gatekept by forced pvp, especially when the skill ceiling in pvp is so high. The pve, and just exploration of the world in general, is so fun and rewarding for the average player and most never even get to enjoy it. I can see the player base growing massively once the new mode drops, and down the line I can see Rare expanding it even more when they see how many new players come to the game. Great for the future of SoT
@@grayknight9453 just enjoy the game? I’ve been playing since it released on Xbox, I’ve finished all the tall tales, ranked up all my emissaries etc and I still just genuinely enjoy the game. Sailing around with friends, completing voyages etc. I personally enjoy the pvp too but I could easily still play the game without it. It’s fun enough on its own
@@musicaltarrasque No dummy, lmao. If you do nothing else all day and don't sleep, you can probably do it all in like 10-15 hours. 8 if you just speedrun the tall tales.
It may come as a huge surprise to many SoT veterans but there are some people who just don't like PvP. They don't want to fight with other players. They don't want to compete with other players. They just want to be left alone to enjoy the PvE in peace. I have a LOT of friends who used to love this game but were driven away by their inability to do anything without vicious trolls showing up to ruin their day. They are all waiting breathlessly for December when Safer Seas premiers and they can fight skeletons and krakens in peace without having to look over their shoulders all the time.
plenty of games have full blown pvp and pve servers. The community didn't die, the game didn't die, life went on. I think a lot of people are trying to force their way to play on other people and it basically comes down to that.
they are not forcing their way of play to you ITS A CORE CONCEPT OF THE GAME and you agreed to the danger of the seas when you started playing, if you want full pve with no threat of possible pvp then this is not a game for you
For the life of me, I cant remember Rare ever saying they will never add a private server option. I recall them saying that they don't plan to. Plans change and in my opinion this is for the better. Anyone else remember when games were mostly single player and co-op? Shortly thereafter the "play online" options for games emerged and then took over many games entirely. Personally, I think that the best games have all three options of gameplay. Solo, co-op and online. Give me options and time and I will eventually play all three modes fairly often. This update will allow me to play this game with friends and family who would otherwise have little to no interest in playing this game for the sake of no-life losers who log on to bother, annoy or otherwise harass anyone they can. I have no problem with a good fight but when you get someone who abuses mechanics, outright cheats, endlessly hunts you down (even if they always end up sinking) or screeches toxic bile at anyone and everyone just because they can, it makes most decent and normal people just looking for a good time stop and consider finding a different game, like you mentioned.
yooooo im finally coming back to the game! got 400 hrs but got over being attacked when i wanted to do tall tales and do story based stuff lesssgoooooo
If the community was friendlier and better sports overall, I would play the game more. Since most of the playerbase acts like dicks, I honestly wish they would do a full blown PVE mode with no restrictions. The community has given me no reason to WANT to engage with it, why should I care that a bunch of toxic homophobes don't have people to bully? Player interactions took SoT from my most played game, to a game I have barely even looked at for two years. At this point good riddance.
I feel like I’m dreaming, I’ve been waiting for this for too long…I can travel the seas without having having to look over my shoulder all the time…This is perfect for players who just want to have a peaceful fun time rather than being forced to fight back or lose all their treasure cos believe it or not, not everyone wants to fight and when they are forced to fight, it sucks.
This conversation ^^ is exactly why we are getting a PVE server. Just because it's a pirate game doesnt mean people want the reality that pirates many times were also flaming A-holes. It's all fantasy anyhow. Peaceful pirating against skellys is fine in my book. You have to mutually agree to fight each other for it to be fun. SOT has never provided this option previously.
@@mountainrogue3448 people like you are the reason rare had to add safer seas. Just accept that not everyone likes PvP especially in a game as jank as SoT
I feel like a lot (not all) of the people complaining are people who like ambushing players who aren't that good at pvp. Now, since many of those people will be safe on their own servers, these Reaper wannabe's will tend to go up against more pvp competent pirates, which "isn't fun." Again, NOT all! But it does give me a warm fuzzy feeling!
My husband, friends, and I are all excited for Safer Seas! We've met plenty of friendly players but we've also met some that are rude and its taken us a lot longer for us to complete certain voyages and Tall Tales because of those people. We're not strong PVP players and we just want to chill and have fun after a long day after work rather than having to worry about trolls constantly hunting us down.
Personally I don't care but damn I enjoy the tears of the hardcore gatekeepers for PvP due to this one. Great revenge for the "red sea change" too. 😎 Karma came full circle on that one.
It doesn’t matter how people achieve pirate legend. It’s none of your business. Whether they wait til gold and glory or a community weekend or whether they grind it on the high seas with no emissary in stealth mode in the devils roar it doesn’t matter.
I can see this new mode as being fantastic for families....you wouldn't have to worry about harassment and the kids would be free to make mistakes and learn without annoying other players. There are some really cool tall tales and adventures to be had that the whole family would love!
If enough people switch over to safer seas I see one of two things happening. Either the sot community will become more welcoming to encourage people to play on high seas... or high seas will become a hellscape full of cheaters and/or toxic players desperate for someone to shoot at who will murder you on sight.
Thank God. I hope they do end up make it a full mode with full payments for treasure. I don't really care about the toxic playerbase or their need to go sink random ships. This is just about the only way I'll play again. I got PL and quit due to random no lifes and how hard it is to actually get a good open crew who doesn't just leave after joining. I still won't be coming back until they up the ante on this one but it's definitely a push in the right direction.
They should buff the base value of treasure on the high seas rather than nerf it by 70% on safer seas. Do not punish people for choosing to play on a PvE server. Reward people for choosing to play on a PvEvP server instead.
I honestly stopped playing Sea of Thieves because of the toxic players who just sunk you for "fun". After hearing that this was coming out I was so excited because now I get to play that game again without the need to worry of getting attacked for nothing ! Plus the fact that Safer Seas can be played with 3 other people makes it better ! I really think this is great for the game, for people who just want to go easy, take their time and actually enjoy the game without having the fear of being jumped on by horrible people. I am quite glad that it's coming. Really am.
Honestly I've always wanted pve servers, or private servers, or something along those lines. Elite Dangerous is a game I always mention when it comes to Sea of Thieves, that game has solo play, it has private servers you can create but also the public option, SoT needs these options. My only real problem is stuff like limiting what we can do, I still wanna be able to access Reapers and Athena if I wanted to, or do stuff relating to emissary flags. I don't really see the need for a reduction and limits on this stuff, because if it stayed the same as public servers people would still play the game and Rare would still get their money. They'd even get the public pvp players who only ever want to do pvp. Which is why I've been wanting this for so long, because I hate having to flee from ships when I literally have no loot, I tell them I don't have any and they still proceed to chase me, I've had multiple occasions where I've led them to the red sea so their ship gets destroyed, downside is mine does too, but sometimes people just want to relax and be left alone in peace, it's really not too much to ask for.
If all you want is to relax why does the limitation matter? Regarding the chasing, yeah that sucks but with the supplies dropping it's almost always worth it to sink someone as well as you just lying about not having anything.
For the limitation in the game mode is we bought a full game, we want a full game. I'm absolutely abysmal at pvp I won't lie but when I get chased for literal hours on end for nothing it gets tiresome and annoying. Heck if I could have a private server I could pay for and invite my buddies and have a full server instead of one ship I would just so I could have fun with friends and family. Having a game mode that gives full access but pve would make people who have a job and want to chill after work could bring in a lot of new players@@jakobmertens9529
@@jakobmertens9529 because why not just have the full game in the PVE mode? I can understand the level cap but no captained ship? No nothing else? It should be the full game. Even if the gold is 50%. Why does it matter? Gold is worthless save for cosmetics and "supplies". We should be able to do forts, voyages and etc.
The thing that will never cease to amaze me about this community in the worst way possible is the sheer amount of people who will fight tooth and nail to tell you how YOU should be playing the game so THEY can have a better time. I've never been able to tell if these people are just outright dumb and don't realize what they're saying, or if they're fully aware and are just hiding behind the pretense of keeping the game alive while only ever wanting easy wins by chasing newer or solo players. People who were always gonna do PvP are gonna stick to high seas, people who weren't didn't add anything to the PvP side of the gameplay anyhow, there is literally no loss whatsoever for either side here because nothing will change beyond a lack of 1 hour chase fights or spawn camping people doing story.
One argument I hear is that PvE people generate loot to steal on the server... To which I think to myself ; why wouldn't you take the risk to generate the loot yourself if you need and simply want it? It's not like PvP crews are prevented from doing PvE content (besides I find actually fighting the bosses/event more fun than tucking for what feels like an eternity while someone else does it).
I bought the game on steam when it first came out. I was constantly killed, looted, and raided by other players who were much better than me and I quit. I have a total of 8 hours played, and most of them were not enjoyable at all. I will be coming back for the PVE servers. I know some of you vets don't like it, but I think this change was made for players like me, not like you.
Personally i think that all the restrictions are just un-necessary, just let people play the game how they want to play it. There will ALWAYS be a player base for the bloodthirsty pvpve system, you wouldn't be dividing the player base, you'd be increasing it, because all those people that get sunk on their first play session or right after the tutorial will still be playing the game in the long run, instead of just going off and playing another game because their fun was ruined.
To finally have a option to explore the islands and enjoy without the need to constantly look over one’s shoulder for threats will be a big relief to many players. I’m not trying to compete for the title of sweatiest pirate and being able to explore,fish, clean out sunken ships among many other things to my heart’s content. Sign me up
I respectfully have to disagree. Many thought that Private servers in GTA V Online would kill the game, but it has been and is still thriving today. i think maybe we will find that This is a happy medium for all players. Because there will always be those of us that are more Casual that want to experience the game pve style and then there are all those that love PVP and the challenge that comes with it. I think you will find that with the new private servers, you as a content creator and streamer will have more opportunity to fight and get the content you like and STILL meet community that is good, not just trolls, and we few that prefer NOT to engage in pvp because we aren't skilled enough solo or don't have friends to play with aka a crew, will still be able to enjoy the game and get what we want out of it without having to worry about solo grinding for hours just to lose it all in less than three minutes. Some of us are just not good at pvp and no matter how much we practice we can't grasp it regardless, great video like always Phuzzy. Wind in your sails.
I still dont understand why this option wasnt in the game to begin with. All of my friends quit after we got sank a third time in one night trying to accomplish one mission. We were all new and just wanted to understand the game better.
A lot of people seem to be joining this discussion out of emotional reason as opposed to constructively with numbers. If you look at steam charts, the game has never had lower player numbers in its entire lifespan. Bungie, the creators of Destiny did a survey where they tested to see how many people did the Raids in-game, the equivalent in SoT would be a FOF, FOTD and Ashen Winds. It's extremely common... or so you'd think. Turned out only around 11% of their entire player base had EVER completed a raid, not just recently but EVER. It may be stats from a third-party website or a different game but if even half of it is true, that would suggest the LARGE majority of people who play games with exploration and story, do not enjoy competitive / challenging content or have no interest in it. *PVP or PVE isn't the debate we should be having, it's whether or not the game needs casual players to survive, and whether those casual players would enjoy SoT as it is.* Edit: Spelling.
Steam players are like 1% of SoT players. I'm afraid that's not a sufficient sample to reach any conclusion. You can check the ledgers to see how many players there are.
To be perfectly frank, the 'community' can 'die' for all I care. I was never going to play this game again until I heard about safer seas, so the possibility that they might add more to it later is nothing but a win for me.
I'm a solo sloop who sucks at PvP but still wanna stay on the High Seas for obvious reasons. I'm kinda worried about how much more competitive PvP focused High Seas will become due to this
High Seas solo sloopers such as us should try and spread a form of etiquette/code regarding helping eachother against other crews. I always liked the idea of multiple solo people taking on 3-4 people crews of PvP focused players... Or ar least stalling them in an heroic sacrifice lol
@@ulfurvojn6893 whenever i see a sloop fighting a gally or brig i just sail close enough for the sloop to hear me over the horn and yell "small ships verses big ship!" then immediately start firing on the gally. works 90% of the time for me XD
They won't learn the game in safer seas. The enemy AI isn't smart enough to be a challenge to anyone except very new players, so as soon as SS players decide to go into High Seas, they'll get decimated by other players.
I tried this game years ago and I really love the style, the exploring and the sailing especially, but I just couldn't enjoy the PvP aspect of it so I decided the game wasn't for me. But hearing this has me hyped to come back and play it again, might even be able to convince my partner who especially hated the PvP and refused to play it again after we got sunk haha.
What you said about having less to lose in a fight than a newer player is so true. I'm relatively new, started playing in June, and my priorities in SoT alreadt changed a couple of times. At first I wanted to grind money, to be able to buy my first ship and a couple of cosmetics I liked the most. Then money became less important to me but I still was afraid of getting sunk because I wanted to level up the trading companies and become the pirate legend. And after that the game became pretty chill to me. Now my main goal is getting emissary rewards each month, so it still sucks when I sink and lose loot, but I care much less about it than I did a month or two ago. So yeah, the perspective can change very fast when you reach certain milestones. And I think the idea for safer seas is great the way it is now. I'm a player who'd love to play on PvE servers and mind my business in peace, but I won't use them, I'll still play on the high seas. Without my own captained ship that I've grown quite attached to and without emissaries, I just don't want to be there with my current priorities in game. But I would love to have such an option earlier, so I think many new players will benefit from it. As for me, maybe I'll use the safe seas to get that gold curse, but I can't see myself going there for any other reason.
My only fear is that as Phuzzy put it, Rare has a tendency of going all in the moment something seems to be even slightly working (pirates life being a prime example), and that eventually the restrictions on safer seas will be either removed entirely, or reduced to the point of not being an issue. Although captaincy being High Seas exlusive doesn't really make sense to me. There are no PvP related milestones in the game. Nothing actually tracks your progress for how many players you have killed or ships you have sunk (besides hourglass), so I don't see why captaincy can't be in Safer Seas given it's already an entirely PvE feature anyway.
Ive been wanting this for forever. You are 100% right Phuzzy, my job is stressful enough. Sometimes I just want to dig up some treasure and enjoy the seas. I do wish i could use my captain ship though
I am a casual as you put it, one question: how do you progress if the whole time you are playing you struggle to keep from getting sunk? You can’t. You spend all your time trying to stay afloat. I have quit playing several times because of this. I think a switch you can turn on and off, would be more apropriate. Some people don’t like pvp.
The only players mad about this are those who realize that from now on everyone they run into in High Seas are probably skilled and can easily fight back when they attack.
I've been playing SoT for many years now and love this game and all its aspects. A PvE mode doesn't hurt the game. Because who doesn't know that after a stressful day at work when their crew doesn't have any time, they just want to set sail for an hour or two to relax a little. Then encountering a crew while you are e.g. Simply fishing for fish somewhere and enjoying the ambience is, in 90% of all cases, anything but relaxing. The high seas can and will only benefit from a PvE mode.
I think it would be really cool if the private sefer seas had a public pvp disabled hideout where you could share stories and drinks with other safe seas players, it could be a place where old veterans could teach their wisdom to new sailors
This would also be a safe way to show off cosmetics, giving and taking advice... And a nice way to repurpose the sea dogs tavern imho. It was a nice place overall (excluding toxicity ofc...)
I think they may have missed a chance to make a very fun PVE mode. It would be cool to see a sort of heat meeter build up that would drop when you go to a port. The more gold you stash on your ship and enemies you kill the higher the heat rises for more profit. I imagine around max heat around 10 or 11 it would give you completely unfair enemies to fight. It could also be a good opportunity to recontextualize death and have it be a severe punishment where you lose everything. Just my thoughts but I am glad I can now do story stuff and fishing without looking over my shoulder every two seconds. There is a lot to appreciate and enjoy in SOT that's not PVP focused
I remember saying they should do something exactly like this years ago with a friend of mine. Make a friendly server but reduce the rewards significantly. This will especially be great for doing Tall Tales.
Would have loved a "new" mode flag for ppl who want help. If someone is new and wants to be protected they can opt in to this flag and I as a Guardian of Athena can help and protect their ship and be rewarded. I know it could get abused but it would make for many cool storys.
I think that's a cool idea, but I also see it being abused more heavily than any other feature. Getting rewarded for accompanying a ship would be a money glitch basically, especially if you meet people willing to participate in abusing it. This is also not mentioning abusing the flag as skilled players to lure others into a fight they probably won't win. What I can imagine tho, is the flag being only available to players that haven't reached a certain milestone, like having less than 100 levels in factions combined, something along those lines. It surely can still be abused with new accounts etc, but this would balance it way better I believe
Really interesting idea! To prevent abuse I think they could make the rewards cosmetics only for the helping crew, coupled with a new company (offshoot of Athena's Fortune?) and comms. I think most of the abuse would take place if golds, dubloons (or Ramsey forbid ancient coins) were the reward. Regarding the crew being helped, they could have a limit on how high total level they are, meaning people already PL would not be able to get help.
@@vandrar3n I think of it more as a "Mentor" mechanic. Alliance flags are great because everyone can ally with anyone and/or betray anyone. The goal of said Mentor flaf would be to remove the uneasy feeling alliances can get, but only for new players that need it.
I stopped playing because of not beeing good enough to win pvp and mostly playing solo so I would love a "full" pve Server ! This "reduced" thing sounds like a waste of time to me. I will start playing again if they make a full pve server.
Me and my friends quit SoT many months ago because we got sick of the enforced PvP... We just wanted to sail the seas, go on our own little adventures, do some fishing, and generaly just enjoy the PvE aspect. None of us had any interest in engaging in PvP, and the fact we couldnt escape it meant that even though we adored the rest of the game we simply could not justify playing it anymore. The news of PvE servers made all of us very excited! We could come back and enjoy the game, together, without the constant worry that we would get attacked by some random players that had nothing better to do than sink someone who doesnt want to fight. However, i feel like they have gone too far with how limited the Safer Seas are... heres hoping they re-think some of these choices... Also, Phuzzy, you mention in the video that you want to funnel people into the high seas mode by making the PvE servers even more limited. I feel like you are missing the reason why so many people (like me and my friends) WANT PvE servers in the first place. We dont want a training ground to prepare ourselves for PvP encounters. We want to be able to experience ALL of SoT's PvE content without having to EVER engage in PvP. Someone else in the comments here mentioned "do not punish the Safer Seas players, instead reward the High Seas players". This i feel would be a much better way to go. Add new content that is earned specificly by engaging in PvP on the High Seas, and let us players that do not want to do PvP earn our PvE rewards in peace.
im glad u brought up the quitting because of pointless sinks when i complain about ppl sinking me, everyone says "its a pirate game, expect pvp" or "you signed up for pvp when you installed" i dont play sot often, and only keep it because of a SINGLE friend i play with so when im just trying to get the most out of the game by attempting to solo for a while, it really makes me hate the game when im literally at an outpost changing my clothes just to hear a keg go off on my ship that i havent even touched yet like i wont even get to sort my barrels or turn off my lanterns yet someone just waltzes over in like 5 minutes and kegs me, its pointless sinking; i gladly accept any alliance offered even if i know theyll backstab me i dont care about rep or gold, or even the big money world events like fof athena and reapers are cool i guess but i never touch em cuz they always feel like someones gonna come for me instantly knowing my luck so safer seas honestly just sounds like a perfect mode for me, i get to just sit back and relax my ONLY complaints are 1 : cant invite another crew to join me if i wanna maybe have some pvp practice or work together, and 2 : hunters call is still gonna cap at 40, which makes 0 sense to me...
About what you said on the level cap, i actually think all factions should have their cap raised (maybe aside from Athena) to 100, and then put the requirement for pirate legend at 75 or 100 for 3 factions. It was an understandable requirement back in the day, but nowadays there's just so much loot it's almost hard to go slowly on the rep grind.
Ah, the early days of having to grind merchants for dozen of hours to hit 50 and finally get to PL, mostly cause there was only fleets&forts which did not have that much merchant loot... Brings me back to many a anxiety about my pigs. Hahaha that was fun though.
Honestly the level cap is a bit unnecessary to me, they say players can still experience the same things they would in public servers and then they give you limitations, pve servers alone are gonna be great because so many people want to be left alone and relax during their sessions, and I'm all for it, however I don't like gold reduction or rep reduction or limited by the factions I can do stuff with or stuff relating to emissaries. Hourglass is understandable because it's pvp related... but god damn man just let people have access to everything, let people just between pvp servers or pve and just let people have their fun, you'll still get the players and you'll still get the money due to Pirate Emporium and actual people buying the game
@YaBoiJoosh If you can get all the rewards with none of the risk, why bother having pvp enabled servers? The player driven interactions, where you don't know if a person is friend or for, where you can make alliances and break them, steal from others or freely give away, or just act a fool together, that is the true heart of this game. Safer Seas is the shallow end of the pool where you can learn to swim without drowning. Its not supposed to be a replacement for the pool itself.
PVE servers should just be full open servers with everything in it and only have the 30% income. When i sail with my buddy who is nog that good at most things pvp wise we always sink when we encounter anyone. The hackers and the toxic instant kill crews are bringing the game down on its knees
Finally, I couldn't play this game alone in the open sea. Only sometimes when I had more people with me. Whenever I play alone, I never get peace from certain types of players. Quite often I'm chased by a whole group that only wants conflict, they don't care about the loot or treasures I carry. They just put an explosive barrel on your ship and sink you, which is probably really fun. Do I have to be nice to other players, say hi to them in chat or wave emo at them, reactions? A pile of obscenities from screaming children. I have been praying for a PvE server for a long time. The world and npc's are well designed so you can play alone or in co-op only against the environment. I hope that the creators will finally realize that the bullying between players is not exactly fun for everyone
Rare does understand alot of their player base just want PVE servers in general right? Its not just a bunch of newbies who are trying to learn. There are a significant number of people who purely want to play the game as PVE because that is the way they enjoy it. I dont understand why Rare can't just make two separate servers. One with PVE and one with PVP without restricting one or the other. Let players choose and play the game how they want to play. Just my own thoughts.
This is an awesome addition to the game, something Rare should consider as well(which could encourage people to play the High Seas servers and more willingly engage in PVP) is some sort of inventive for non-Reaper Emmisaries to engage attackers, because as it stands there is no real reason not to just run.
Not only can players get into the game safely, get a grip on the game and its mechanics and not get obliterated by any reaper 5 roaming around, but they also get the opportunity to really play the game and get the Singleplayer experience (meaning tall tales, trying out stuff etc.). I view this like a license test for the High Seas and I think Rare really did something with this feature as I believe it will kind of rebalance the High Seas and just make it more fun to play for everyone involved. Also I don't understand all the hate for Season 10, just because the game is not getting perfectly reshaped it doesn't mean the features are bad
But that's the thing there's not supposed to be a solo PVE experience this isn't a single player. RPG game it's an open world sandbox pirate game. And I'm sure you'll find that your new PVE servers bland and boring after short, while when there's no challenge you completed everything you're allowed to and the only choice you have left is to fight the PVP people
@@magicpyroninja I get what you're saying, let me reformat my comment: I do think the Safer Seas are a great addition, but this is mostly because it is a safe place to start and get a feel for the game and some of the basic content it offers. Mentioning PvE, I meant experiencing the world events as they are, not farming them until you reach lvl 40 cap. As Phuzzy said, it's an advanced tutorial and I think that is what makes it attractive for new people
So what happens when they play on the safe seas for a little while then finally decide to go to the high seas and THEN get obliterated by a reaper 5? This doesn't solve the problem. The players who play safe seas are STILL going to have the same experience of getting obliterated because safe seas won't teach them PVP.
So your saying the price of not getting trolled is everything. 30% gold and no exp for basically every faction? I was hyped but wow, guess im not coming back after all
IM ACTUALLY SO HAPPY ABOUT THIS, ive wanted the OPTION for pve/coop servers even if i dont get to keep rewards just so i can play with friends casually and teach my friends who are new to the game. forcing them into a game with no matchmaking is awful for new players and those that just want to be friendly when hard toxic pvp focused players destroy the fun and first impressions and also ive been going around just looking for commendations and all the umbra books and this will allow me to do that without worry and just explore. not even to mention now tall tales can be so much more immersive without pvp and no chance of getting lost. but i do think its odd to remove fort of fortune since it is a rare spawn and all they would need to do instead is just remove/replace the athena loot inside the vault cause i do just enjoy beating a fof.
I hope they add full fledged PvE with no limitations, my friends and I love that game, but we shouldn't be forced to endure toxic roleplaying pirate legend prestige 50 mega sweats who haven't stopped playing since day 1, when we just want to explore, make gold, and have fun. We- just like you- deserve the ability to play how we want. So many people I know have quit because it's the least fun when PvP is involved, we are forced into it and have to accept the consequences of wanting to have fun in this particular game. This is a step in the right direction and I hope they allow full fledged PvE lobbies, and stop punishing people who want to enjoy the game but can't in its current state.
"As we look back on our journey of creating Sea of Thieves, we have realized that we have alienated any player over the age of 25 by refusing to allow PvE-only gameplay. We have ignored the pleas of Dad's wanting to play with their kids, kids wanting to play with their elderly parents, anybody with limited game time and everybody else who is not actively trying to be the next sweatlord or who would like to sail the Sea of Thieves without worrying that a final ten minute loot turn-in is going to turn into 2 unplanned hours of gameplay as if the game is more important than your real life. Our playerbase is losing steam and viewership on Twitch. Now the thing we said we would never do, we will do. It really was this easy. Please don't leave us." Rare, probably... Also: "This is the right time to bring Safer Seas to the Sea of Thieves," Translation: Everyone told us, repeatedly, for literal years... We have finally listened. On a more constructive note, I agree that this is going to save the new player retention problem SoT has always struggled with. Period.
This will be perfect, I’ve been trying to teach my gf how to game and she really likes this one but she gets easily turned away from the pvp rn, she still struggles to move and look around at the same time, this will help her get comfortable gaming before she tries pvp again. We haven’t played in months bc of it but I’m looking forward to playing it with her again
I'll be moving to Safer Sea's once they're available. I hate PvP, have since day one of the game. In my entire time playing the game I've had maybe 4 or 5 GOOD encounters with other players. Outside of that, it's just getting sunk because "iTs A pIrAte GaMe!". Yeah, doesn't mean you have to be a d*ck about it 😮💨so yeah, Safer Sea's sounds like a dream. I'm already PL, I never do FoF or FotD'd and I don't touch the hourglass so I'm not really losing out on anything. I can go fish and chill and not feel anxiety through the roof every time I look on the horizon.
I love the pve stuff in the game as well as pvp. But as a solo sloop I can hardly ever get any quests done without getting dunked on by a brig. So most of the time I’m doing those small sea forts because they require little to know commitment
Phuzzy, you nailed us casuals so perfectly! I cannot emphasize how much I appreciate your take on our plight. I remember getting hyped about this game before it was even released. I introduced the idea to my cousins, and they all bought it on Xbox shortly after release. I didn't have Xbox and my computer was too old at the time, so it took a year or two before I upgraded and was able to run the game. It was a blast! I loved playing with my cousins, but I also loved my solo adventures. At the time, I was working from home a couple days a week. Not having a commute freed up so much time for gaming. Then I worked from home almost full time, and it seemed like I had hours and hours to play - especially at night with the guys. This didn't last long though as life had other expectations. My kid was getting older and needing more of my personal time. Then we had a second kid. On top of family life, work priorities changed (some good). Very quickly, my work-from-home granted free time was soaked up. The final nail for me was having to go back to the office for work. I just could not dedicate hours of play anymore. So not only did I become a casual, my logins were rare. So sad. But then my first kid got into video games, and we started playing together. Sea of Thieves of her first computer game. She had no idea how to work mouse and keyboard, but she loved it so much. The first couple months of playing like this were great. We fished, we ate worms, we attacked other pirates and lost because we were objectively terrible at PvP. We had blast. I don't know when it happened (intro of Reapers?) but suddenly PvP became the main focus of every player on the map. We could not go thirty minutes without being harassed by other players. My kid was having a terrible time, and I so was I. That part where you describe three weekends is PERFECT. We just couldn't hang with the community, and we gave up. We recently returned with the Monkey Island tall tales. We haven't gotten so absorbed as we were before, but it's been a breath of fresh air. I had so much hope for the direction of the game because of this, and it looks like Rare is giving us casuals what we've always wanted. I can't wait. Dunno about your concerns. They seem valid. I don't think it will kill the community, because at some point even us casuals will run out of content. We'll also be more comfortable with the game mechanics. That's my hope anyway. I would really like to go back out on the seas on a regular basis. So here's hoping! Thank you for this video. We watch all of them, even if I don't comment often.
I have 320h in the game and have yet to do most of the tall tales for this exact reason, my friends and I are looking forward to be able to do them at our own pace without having to worry about getting ganked 2h in
If Rare had decided NOT to nerf PvE player progression and content availabilty (or opens most everything up in the future, as is the worry for some), I don't see how that should matter to anyone who considers themselves PvP players? It has no bearing on their ability to continue enjoying the game in the way that they always have. A portion of Rare's website game description boasts, "How you live your pirate life is totally up to you." That's not entirely accurate. By placing progression restrictions and content blocks on the "Safer Seas", a huge amount of the stories and adventures they spent so much effort crafting for the game ends up wasted. The effect is that a casual PvE player is either eventually forced onto the High Seas, or just stops bothering to click the "Play" button anymore, or encouraging their friends to buy the game. It's understandable that you can't gain reputation from the Reaper's Bones in PvE - obviousy, but why lock out so much of the other game content. This way of implementing PvE seems like a lackluster half-measure. It shouldn't simply be, as @PhuzzyBond puts it, "literally nothing more than an extended sandbox tutorial". It only restricts a consumer base that you might have otherwise been able to entice. Admittedly, I don't have the presence in SoT that you do Phuzzy, if any at all really, but I fail to understand why "full blown PvE mode" worries you, or why you think it would cause the community to "die"?
Regarding the guild real quick, I love the idea of being able to have my captained ship accessible to my guild mates. To see my ship be appreciated by more and more people while one is away from the game. The one thing that does worry me is the potential to grief by purposely wrecking the ships, resulting in the original owner having to pay for repairs. I'm sure there is an option to take a ship off the list, that being said it would be nice if your guild could contribute gold to repairs.
i never repair my ship. If I do it gets fully damaged again in under 20 minutes. Plus seeing the patched holes helps me to know where all my holes can be.
I think more aggressive skelly ships could be a great thing for Safer Seas and High Seas as well (maybe). Just having the usual roaming ships spot you at a distance and coming for you so scanning the horizon is actually a skill you'd develop in Safer Seas.
One of my more annoying interactions I've had, I was trying to cook fish in a sea fort for a commendation, I was like 4 fish away, and needed to hop off in a few min. A crew came up and constantly harassed me even though I made it clear I was just gonna catch like 2 fish, cook them, and log off. After fighting them off once or twice, I'd go back to fishing, making it clear I didn't wanna bother with them, but they still came at me. Weren't even trying to sink my ship, just wanted to be assholes.
Personally, I think it's great I love the game. But I hate PvP. My usual tactic when being approached by another player, is to scuttle ship and jump server.
I just wish I could use already purchased ships on the PVE server. They can disable its gameplay features completely if needed like using sovereign. I just want the aesthetic, and the ship log. It's nice when I can see records of what we did for the session.
Already got a couple of friends eager to set sail without the stress of having to watch out for them prepubescent children screaming in their microphone chargijng at anything that moves. And when I'm having a more active day I can go back to the High Seas and not worry much about any other progress than interaction
I personally only want to play PvE ever, so limiting PvE content to force players back into PvP if they want to unlock stuff or experience all of the *PvE* content (owning a ship is a ridiculous thing to lock behind the PvP Pain Wall) is unnecessarily punitive. There is a very simple answer for this problem that is being ignored... just make it so that each player account has two entirely separate characters, one for PvE and one for PvP. Allow full access to every part of the game for BOTH, however lock all progress, items, money, and everything else to each mode. That means no taking your legendary beefed up galleon into PvP after leveling easily and safely in PvE... if I play a character in PvP, then it starts at the bottom with nothing like a fresh new player. The only thing that should be available across both accounts is stuff you purchased with real money. I have wanted to play Sea of Thieves since launch, but never touched it due to the unavoidable PvP aspect and my crippling anxiety, which I play games to escape. I remember when games like the first Red Dead Redemption (also a shared world filled with violent thieves) had separate lobbies for PvE players where we could go and do literally everything in the game with our friends without overwhelming stress... we were treated as if we had just as much value as the PvP players. Now, in RDR 2 there is no such thing as a friendly lobby, only a *heavily* discounted GTA passive mode where you can toggle to take somewhat less damage from player attacks, but you still get killed before you can put your fishing rod away. I haven't touched that game in years thanks to the toxic KOS player base, and I spent a lot of money on it. PvE servers (or simply private servers TBH) would be a Godsend that would bring people like me back into the fold of so many great games, and while this isn't quite that, I do think its a step in the right direction to that end. Real life is PvP. It is perfectly valid to want to escape that in my escapism.
I got back on Sea of Thieves for the first time since last year and was pleased to see this mode added. My favorite part of the game is the ship maneuvering mechanics and navigation. I enjoyed getting to play how I wanted, simply sailing and having a good time, without being bothered. It was especially bueno since I haven't played in a long time and my fingers are used to Palworld due to having been playing that at length the past few months.
