Pyotr Bagration - Worth It? 

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Bag rat yon @Flamuu not bag ra tion

please please do listen to the all teh good people. Bagratyon, stress on the last syllable.

@Flamu What do you think of using Alexander Ovechkin instead of Kuznetsov if one does not have the coal yet for the latter? Ovechkin has a better turret traverse. Would you change anything else in the skills if Ovechkin was used instead?

Flumu, as it is Russian, it is Bag-ra-ti-On, not Bagreishin :)

Correct me if I'm wrong but the Bagration House/Dynasty was one of the longest ruling ones in history no? And I'm guessing Operation Bagration in WW2 was also named after them? Pretty cool!

Well the ship is named after Pyotr Bagration himself, the general, not directly named for the Royal family. He was obviously a member of the Royal family though.

Then i was pronouncing it well. As Spanish-language

Thanks to georgian people for your sons, who spent their lifes for service to mother Russia.

The CV "Tbilisi" was built 30-35 years *after Stalin died,* and it was renamed to "Admiral Kuznetsov" in 1990 - *before Georgia left the U.S.S.R..* Also, Georgia didn't become heavily pro-West *until Saakashvili* - early 2000s. So, not quite sure what you're on about.

personally I find Prinz Eugene to be useless compared to ARP Takao despite being the same tier, the only thing that the PE has a leg up on is HP.

@eastindies the better AP is arguable, because while the theoretical damage is great, penetration just isnt ... so the worth of the AP is very situational ... in comparison Atago has monstrous HE (~50% more dmg per shell and 4% better fire chance) that works in almost all cases and 2 more guns (25%). The improved HE pen of Eugen is of arguable value and gets largely negated by Atago's superior dispersion. _ the better firing range is bought at the expense of detectability, both have a 5.xkm buffer between concealment and firing range ... use situational _ "better AA" that still doesn't do anything noteworthy even against T6 carriers.... _ both have great parts of the ship that can be overmatched by various BB, if anything then the 40mm icebreaker on Eugen is a boon ... 25mm or 27mm nose/aft means very little when so many BB can overmatch 30mm armor anyway... 387mm guns already overmatch 27mm armor (358mm guns for 25mm armor) ... so the difference only matters against 380mm guns _ hydro is an arguable point. hydro or not you just can't push the EU DD and pushing anything in general is largely a death sentence giving the insanely passive meta we have right now. For self defence Atago's hydro is as good as Eugens. Also Eugen is slow, even by cruiser standards. _ So all in all Atago is just better in the current game, Eugens "boons" are either highly situational or plainly useless in actual gameplay.

@eastindies actually, PE is just 27mm everywhere. Atago, however, has only the thinnest of 25mm upper belts, sandwiched between belt and armored deck, neither of which a Yamato can even overmatch. Furthermore, the ship is far smaller, and more maneuverable. Against a Yamato or any other BB with larger than 381mm guns, Atago is *far* more likely to actually ricochet anything.

every T8 cruiser wishes to have such guns. every one.

Is historical comrade. Soviet engineering best in world, soviet navy stronger than navies of capitalist pigdogs combined. If not agree go to Gulag! (tbh i might buy the bagration)

Volkor went to the Soviets and taught them how to crush puss.

"whose knowledge of building battleships, carriers and destroyers" ´dis a cruiser, dude

@@estoyaqui5386 whoosh

@@antoniohagopian213 Well when you think about it, his nation was being invaded and I think the army would be more important than the navy at that point also I've heard that the large ships being build had been damaged by German saboteurs when they started retreating, it was either that or Soviets doing it themselves when they retreated.

Ochacov wasn't very good and its the same nationality. Overall I tend to agree with you though

Have it also since a week. Im not bad with cruiser, but i am not warm with it. Maybe because I often had T10 games. So ur not alone. But Yeah, still great ship.

I mean, WG releasing a balanced ship with significant weaknesses is how premium ships should be, incredibly strong gimmicks and significant weakness. Its been like 4 years of WG releasing premium ships and tanks that are better than tech tree counterparts.

@@XHitsugaX takes more than a one-off example of doing things right to win back trust after pissing on the player base as much as wg has done lately.

@@m0nkEz coal or steel ships are significantly stronger but all the op prems are already gone (payfast and kutuzov). Now only the weaker ones remain.

@@XHitsugaX Great, so now they can figure out a way to reverse the advancing power creep of new ship lines obsoleting older ones.

The ship is not really a DD hunter, as she is limited by her slow reload, not that low concealment and unremarkable agility. This one is rather selfish, as her focus is in doing damage to everything that can be aimed. Not a ship you should bring to a contested cap in my opinion.

@@hanesco219 countering DDs is not always equal to contesting the cap. She has hydro for a purpose, and WG will even buff that hydro. Think about other ways to help your team against enemy DDs using that hydro plus RPF :)

@@100krakens2 even then, the ship is no hunter. You can even give her German hydro, and it would not be different. To truly hunt DDs, she requires outside help. Not like Cleveland or Chapayev, or even Edinburgh. Bagration is in the same league as Kutuzov and Mainz in that respect, they can kill DDs, but it is not their main focus, because they are ill-equipped for that.

@@hanesco219 Nice to see a comment where someone actually knows what they are talking about in all this ocean of ignorance and wiseacry...

Oh yes, the legendary radar-less DD hunter woth 11 km detection. Truly a thing of nightmares for every DD player.

@@b-17gflyingfortress6 so you think Atago is worse, Mainz is better, and you've never used Bayard?

ochakov is a bad choice tbh. this Peter Bagpipe ist much more useful, stronger, mor fun i'd say. Ochakov strugles alot.

@@MrRedRye yup I'm an idiot and skipped that part. Thanks for the mod info

>lots of calories >heavy package >may or may not catch your attention in the field I see it

and at T6!

Probably because he's mainly using ap

That's exactly what I'm thinking

For the smooth water effect he uses an Aslain mod for it.

I’m not seeing anything

Antonio Hagopian I don’t see anything

thats because the Ice breaker is only covering the lower belt, nothing to stop big gun bbs hitting higher up and getting good damage.

He did do ochakov, like a week ago.

This ship isn't even strong

So do a lot of tier 8 cruisers. Prinz Eugen, Atago, Irian, Baltimore, Albemarle, Amalfi, to name a few. What is your point?

@@thomasneal9291 There is some power creep, not as much as people claim, but the example hegave is a bad one.Usually power creep is about new ships making the old ones obsolete. First off, we haven't come to that. Contrary to what the abysmaly bad playerbase believes this is a fairly good balanced game. And second, you do realise that most of the tier 8 cruisers that i mentioned have been in the game for quite some time, right?

mor like a glass canon with heavy armor, good plating and heal. whait...what?

And they both shine compared to Mikoyan. Well, every ship shines compared to Mikoyan, with maybe the only exception being Krispy Kreme. 😂🇺🇸

Far from that. The Donskoi is vastly superior.

Well, it makes sense for a Russian ship which would operate in seas that are covered in ice for about half a year

@@StellarGale It's not a literal icebreaker.

@@retromario96 it's not an ice breaker but there are ships for northern seas built with icebreaker bow.

it is aslain mod, yes. calm seas.

it was an extra package. if you just bought the ship you wont get the soviet camo as well. you needed to pay some extra bucks.

@@phg4977 I bought the complete package

@@phg4977 VIII PYOTR BAGRATION ADMIRAL PACKAGE

@@swdoctor hmm than you should be able to choose from normal prem camo and soviet one. so the soviet camo isnt showing up under exterior tab?

@@phg4977 I have 2 permanent camo's in my options but the one that looks similar to what Flamu is playing with in this video doesn't change the appearance of my camo, Flamu please respond.

indeed she is. my first prem, my best, my most fun, most played, 68% WR. love her :)

in real live it was mostly based on main armament calibre, yes. In game armor is one important value that defines cruiser sub classes.

Massa is straigt powerful. maybe the best T8 BB. I love my Vanguard she feels like a super cruiser. fast rudder, agile, but baaad firing angles and undergunned for a BB. 98% would take Massa instead.

@@phg4977 ok. Thanks

He uses all the XP flags thats the magic trick ^^

Press account (offered to those in the CC program)

Since you are now able to mount all Economic and Special Flags at once, combined with a good Camo and Daily Win Bonus you can easily achieve huge XP/FXP/Credts gains

@@razvandavid1510more probably that you're right

Atago if you like ambush predator/invisible ninja killer playstyle, or if you like those fire ribbons. This, if you like staying at range and farming citadel ribbons. Keep in mind, though: Atago is super fun and potentially more rewarding than this thing, but it's also harder to play (shorter range, uptiers not as well, most of her strenghts are neutered if a CV is involved)

chapy is different but freakin strong. stealth radar for example.

nah is quite strong compare to other cruiser

He says like 5s into the video that it’s a premium.

So hard to remember them when they weren't actually built, i mean theoretical navies are easy to plan but real ones are hard to create.