Questioning the Timeline of the Ancient World 

Patterns of Evidence has produced the greatest computation of truth based on knowledge and common sense that I ve ever seen. Outstanding!

Tim, I just wish that you would have asked these Egyptologists "If you discovered that the Egyptian chronology was off by a substantial amount, would you rather take a stand and risk your reputation, or would you rather not 'rock the boat'?

Wow, When I studied art and art history in the early 1970's our Professors and lecturers taught us that the Egyptian time periods were misscalculated! It's old news!

Cracks me up that archaeologists never listen to anybody else and are always right, except they could never agree with each other 🤔. I believe that we do not have the entire story correct. Good video

Professing to be wise they became fools. Keep up the great work!!!

It's hard to imagine how anyone can postulate the likely timelines and dates of events in the Ancient World, but Patterns of Evidence is doing a credible job at reckoning with these issues, and I am grateful to them for their efforts.

I was in Israel in late 1982, and went to a Dig Site and was able to talk to the Laborers that actually do all the real work. 2 of the 3 of them had actually helped on the Dig of the Biblical Jericho. And I say "Biblical" Jericho, because at the time, about 10 different ones were known, including the Biblical one. They verified that it had been destroyed as the Bible described, and dated to the time the Bible claimed. I have also watched a couple of Documentaries on the site in the 1990's and early 2000's So, 40 years later, I watch a show with "supposed" experts, claiming that the Biblical Jericho has not ever been found, and talking as if it isn't one of the oldest known cities on earth, as well as being one of, if not THE, most rebuilt city in Human history. Do we every-so-often lose all the knowledge we know, is it automatically hidden after a certain amount of time, do people eventually just forget, is there some kind of "Un-discover what we have discovered, so we can discover it all over again" agenda thingy I don't know about? I have come into contact with many things I did not know, through the internet, but it has also shown me that a lot of information, facts, and knowledge that was ubiquitous for years, for every human from a developed country, is unknown or being "rediscovered" today.

The fact that archaeology was disregarded and a special field called Egyptology was created to protect their sacred timelines is all the proof you need that Anything from Egyptology should be highly questioned and considered faults until proven so by archaeologists worldwide

i saw the first part but never got to see the second part. Now i can share this with everyone who went with me to see part one. Thank you

Having a noted chronologist give credence to the shift in time is a big move forward.

This is an excellent documentary! I hope you continue the search, this is too important not to!

Ooooo, I immediately recognized Kevin Sorbo's voice on narration. Nice!!

I’ve long considered that most ancient civilizations share commonalities because technology was much more advanced than we’ve given the people of the period credit for. Especially as it pertains to seafaring and trade. I take genesis 11 into account for this, and it would explain the dispersion of the period. I believe genesis 41 was a major turning point for the world and was the cause of one of the greatest mass extinction events in history aside from the flood. It would explain the death of all these other sister civilizations as Egypt flourished and grew.

The comment by Kent Weeks starting around 8:20 shows exactly what the problem is: if one was to change the chronology of the egyptian history, it would also have to be accepted by scholars from all the other eastern and near eastern studies - in other words, such a change will face the combined "fight-back" of everybody who has ever published or worked in those areas. This is probably the best explanation why archeology narratives and timelines hardly ever change - there are too many people involved who published books, made their thesis or held conferences on false bases.

"hasn't been formerly trained in Egyptology" simply means hasn't been trained to accept our findings as infallible"

The term everyone is looking for in this clip is, 'academic dogma'.

You also have to possibly to consider that some of the leaders in charge could change the calendar dates to suit them .

Welcoming the *"Questioning of the Mainstream Academic Narrative, for the greater Facts, is a manifestation of one of my desires, particularly doing so frim the Higher Mind, which is key."* *I appreciate this and I subscribed to support this Channel.*

@33:58, I did this when taking History Before 1877 in college. All the Pharos and such lines up perfectly with the Bible and it was incredible!

Thanks for saying BC instead of BCE. Changing the way, we say this is an attack on Christianity like Merry X-Mas many years ago.

“It creates more problems than it solves” ; the truth usually does.

I just read 3 different translations of the Ipuwer papyrus. It's a HUGE leap to say that it corresponds to the biblical plagues in any way.

The Pharaoh of Exodus was not the firstborn, had his firstborn die on the first Passover, and died a short time later in the Red Sea. From what we know about Amenhotep I, he matches all of those features. If you wish to choose a different Pharaoh, you need to find one that fits those descriptions. See Ex 12:29-30 & Ex 14:23-28.

I'm only 9 minutes in, and already I'm finding this VERY interesting. I've spent many many years studying all this, and trying to make the pieces of the puzzle fit. There's so much confusion and inaccuracies, it's like walking through a hall of distorted mirrors, and trying to find the one mirror that has the true image. What nobody seems to look at or consider, is the nature and character of the people themselves. That too is evidence, and since that's the origin of what they did and left behind, it needs to be taken into consideration in order to even get close to a reasonably accurate historical time line. Good video!

This video should be translated into multiple languages.

The issue is ppl will do anything to deny God & the words of the Bible. Just as it says in His word. It's not even worth arguing w/ these ppl who are on disproving the existence of God. Sadly everyone, no one is exempt, will learn the truth of God upon death. Strange how the religion must attacked is Christianity. It doesn't really matter what twisting or torturing of the truth is done cuz truth is truth. It's too bad that these over educated scientist don't allow themselves to believe what is true. Believing what is in God's word allows everything to fall in perfect placement.

I am now 65 and have been a Bible believing Christian for almost 40 years. The problems I have found with "academics" from almost every university and archaeological institute is that they are above all vain people seeking the approval of their peers. For them to say they believe the Biblical sequence of events and dates would leave them feeling embarrassed in front of their fellow "academics" and they seek the approval of men and not of God. So they are idolaters. They will howl in outrage at such an honest appraisal of how craven they are but it is not merely me saying this, it is the God of the Bible. Just read what the apostle Paul wrote about these types in Romans chapter 1:23 "Professing themselves to be wise they became fools." Moreover, David Rohl remaining an agnostic is not a position God will accept as an excuse from _anyone!_ Again, the apostle Paul reveals what God's view of this is in Romans chapter 1:18 "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse ..." A creation _demands_ a Creator and I sincerely hope than anyone who thinks it doesn't will turn around and admit they are completely wrong. 🤔🤷‍♂🤨

The story of Esther is also shifted out of its proper historical context, though by a lesser amount than the proposed Egyptian chronology displacement.

A scholar commented that it is important to look at patterns as timelines fluctuates. For scholars, students who have already committed their years of studies and careers to certainties in their dates, rethinking will be a big problem. Follow the money.

Note : Amenhotep II and the Historicity of the Exodus-Pharaoh by Douglas Petrovich.

Wow! I 100% think you guys on to something here! The timeline needs revision and has for sometime. As far as Velokovsky goes he had some intriguing ideas that extended beyond Egyptology. We shouldn't be so dismissive of him. Sometimes it takes an outsider to reignite the fires of learning and challenge us with new ideas.

This most important chronology is the Biblical timeline. The genealogical records in the Bible are well ordered and we have a reasonable timeframe for David, Solomon and the first temple.

I can’t even imagine a more disgraced group of people than Egyptologist. I feel like at this point they’re just the laughingstock of the world.

I love this series! The devil is definitely influencing those scholars who refuse to see what is plainly before them. It is how he spreads false (incorrect) knowledge in order to discredit the Bible.

They dont even mention that egyption history were guilty of not disclosing what actually happened because of the narrative of their national history. The exodus was a major embarrassment to this Egyptian nation.

Unbelievers will do everything to not validate God's word. And the father of lies, that mighty force in the unseen realm, will aid them in that.

It is so weird that presented with excellent evidence, most will dismiss it out right. Present them with a triangle 🔺and they look at it and say, "No it can not be possible. Every body knows it's a square 🟥. "But your looking at it. Don't you want to reconsider?" "No, it is a square🟥".

There's only one reliable witness to ancient history. I'll believe Him before listening to men.

Thank you for providing truth, or at least another possible truth, in a static and bias world which only teaches one side of a perceived truth. The attempts to keep people locked into one way of historical presentation have been successful in another negative outcome. Our lack of critical thinking and problem solving has been destroyed by pounding these highly suspect "facts" throughout our education of the youth, our future teachers and leaders!

''They're looking in the wrong place!'' - [You know the movie. ]

Truth based on the evidence should be what we're all after. Great video!

Adjusting the timeline would negate a lot of work done, and we can’t have that. That 300 year shift solves a lot of other problems throughout the ancient world, and pretend it that it doesn’t because it would upset your established work isn’t intellectually honest. It is, however, very human.

Maybe our modern dates have been changed since the Roman Catholic church changed the chronology prior

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Every African I've known have been polite and dignified. African-Americans...it's a roll of the dice. And not all non-black people hold negative opinions...and not all white folks had slaves. Southern Democrats had the corner on that. Historical fact.

All we need to do is look for all the nations in Egypt's region, and what their history tells us about those Egyptian dark ages, and we'll know the names of all the Pharos that ruled Egypt in those "dark days", which can't be dark if they continued to have Pharos rulling them in that period. The ipwar papyrus is a lamentation and grief about the destruction of Egypt and the open possibility of a foreign invasion, after God has destroyed Egypt in a series of natural catastrophies one after the other, and it is written at the same period of the exodus, just after the Israelites left, and before the conquest of Egypt by the Hyksos, which took the opportunity when they saw that Egypt is vulnerable.

Unless you realize the Hebrew Scriptures are taken from Sumerian stories. Perhaps not historical fiction for the Sumerians, but fiction for Judaism. Egypt’s timeline is far older than stated, at least that of the structures, but this issue is the same as Judaism faces: what is there is not from the people claiming it.

It is more and more important to dig up and publish all astronomical observations recorded by the ancient world. Namely, the assyrian, hittite, Egyptian, greek and every near East astronomical data so as to synchronize the dates of historical events accurately

Velikovsky was the FATHER of this position. Don't put him down. Just because he might be a bit wrong, that is not a reason to hate Velikovsky. HE RAISED IPUWER PAPYRUS. Rohl separately confirms in large part, but superficially discounts and does not credit with the basic insight, I agree with Rohl and also am horrified, disappointed that Velikovsky is not named. ❤ You need to read Velikovsky! He was approximately correct in the big ideas AND fascinating.

The truth is somewhere in the middle of all these experts. I tend to side with the hypothesis backed by Egyptologist David Rohl. As an agnostic he is also more interested in the evidence and less, perhaps in making the bible fit into the events of the official narrative. His is an interesting hypothesis.

That's the voice of Kevin Sorbo......

I find it amazing how these archeologists and historians will speak in absolute terms. The study of the past is NOT a hard science. Even in the hard sciences, we learn that things we once thought were fundamental often turn out to be otherwise. These people are not speaking from a place of dispassionate observation but from a place of ideological belief.

Gerald E. Aardsma, a Christian biblical chronologist, has evidence that the Exodus occurred in 2450 BC. His main point is that the Judges period is really 1,000 years longer than currently accepted, due to a transcription error in the Old Testament. Strange that his research was not mentioned!

Even if one was raised from the dead, they will not believe... THEY do NOT have a chronology that is set in "stone" because everything that is not planted by the Father shall be rooted up. The ROCK will come and break into dust their, "sacred stone of Egypt's chronology". Wonderful work you all are doing in this field. Trying to break up the fallow ground of Egyptology is a lot of work, but I see progress! Praise God!

Maybe a stupid and ignorant question, but why do they "pin" history past to Egyptian history? Especially if it has gaps and other histories, just as detailed, have to be "adjusted" to fit the Egyptian chronology, there is a problem right there.

Don’t know the final answer, but Hoffmier is who I disagree with most. The 1,200 BC Rameses date is really easy to refute.

I'm enjoying this. A fair examination. The bible chronology and archaeology chronology have to agree: its reasonable to say an ancient chronology is 200 years out.

David spells it out exactly right! It is that way in other disciplines, too. anything considered "unorthodox" or at odds, is maligned.

im soo glad I know the GOD who freed the israelites. he speaks to me all the time. Im born again by JESUS CHRIST. JOHN 3:16 is real. once you believe on JESUS repent and trust in GOD by faith your forgiven thanks to the finished work of the cross and JESUS CHRIST. he is risen

"This is the way things happened" Oh really? Were you there? How do you know? "Evidence seems to indicate" That's the scientific method at work. Also, I'm pretty sure that there are written records that have not yet been found. Keep looking.

These guys are debating a 200 year discrepancy while others are talking about a 20,000 year discrepancy in accepted history.

The work of Simcha Jacobovici ( the naked archeologist) has shown that the appropriate timeline is Circa 1550-40 BCE. This coincides evidence of the Ahmose Stele, and the Hebrew account un Exodus. As both describe the day turning to night, fire and Ice from 5he sky and a pillar of fire in the sky. It also rids contradictions regarding “ Which Pharaoh” as during the period circa 2750-1500 BCE Lower Egypt had the incursion o the Hyksos. They-had their own king( Pharaoh) so there were two pharaohs in lower Egypt. The Hyksos are known for having built two cities in the Nile Delta. Ramses( PiRamses and Pitom ( Avaris). Archeological excavations at Avaris, and test pits at PiRamses, hav shown foundations of river stone. At Avaris recently, mud brick tombs were discovered. And two signet rungs bearing a name ir title and the inscription “ Of Joseph have been discovered. The Hyksos are credited with bringing the light, spoked wheel chariot, horses, snd Tin/ Bronze weapons into Egypt from north of the Levant. The moisture laden sediments of the Nile Delta could not support monumental stone initially and the Hebrew account, has them building the cities of much lighter mud brick. 1550 BCE us important as this is the approximate date of the volcanic eruption of Thera on the Island of Santorini ( pumice and ash have been discovered in Nile Sediments and when analyzed, match exactly with the ejecta from Thera). Even though they are about 500 mikes apart. Vulcanologists consider that tectonic plate activity resulting in seismic effects precede volcanic eruptions. One such boundary is in the Gulf of Suez and runs parallel to the Nile River. Including stirring up Iron oxide sediments turning the river red and causing a fish die off. River deltas are notorious for trapping sediments and various “ swamp gasses”. In swampy waters, even with a fish die off, amphibians ( frogs) would still be able to live as they breathe air and dead fish on the top of the water would draw flies that are a natural food for frogs. As each abundance in turn draws the natural predators, so the Plagues proceed. By the time of the eruption, the Hyksos would have been in Egypt for around 200 years and would consider themselves Egyptian. . If a person having grown up in the house of the Hyksos Pharaoh, killed an overseer, from a point of power, there would be no ramifications. However if a person having grown up in the house of the Dynastic Pharaoh, killed a Hyksos overseer, that would be an incident between two power structures and would have to flee. People from the Dynastic house, would be known by their family name and no one with out such family name would ever be granted an audience with the Hyksos pharaoh. As no one without the family name if the Hyksos house would be granted an audience with the Dynastic Pharaoh. The last Pharaoh of the Middle kingdom ( 17th Dynasty) was KaMose (Ka means Soul of.) The first Pharaoh of the New Kingdom ( 18th Dynasty) was Ahmose ( Ah means brother of ). Even with the Reunification of Upper and Lower Egypt. Furing the 28th Dynasty there were 4 Pharaohs named Thutmoses ( Thut(Tut) means the living spirit of). One of the “swamp gasses” is carbon dioxide. This is colorless, odorless and can bs seen as a fog that hugs the ground but can extend up to around mid thigh. It can easily kill as it displaces oxygen. The first born of the noble households, would sleep on a low bed on the ground floor as protection for the house while the others would sleep on a on open roof..Hemoglobin found in animal blood neutralizes carbon dioxide. During the eruption of Thera, the volcanic cone plunged into the magma chamber and caused a Tsunami of great height ( 40 meters measured on Crete). Tsunamis also cause huge undertows of water at the margins. Snd draw from all the oceans in the world. And not only the Tsunami, bur with the magma chamber emptied, water would be pulled to fill the part of the chamber not filled by the volcanic cone. Creating a greater draw. Large volcanic eruptions draw cold air from all over to the base of the volcano to replace the hot air and ejecta being pushed up to the stratosphere. Thus spreading pumice and ash to a wide area. Ahmose is credited with driving the Hyksos out of Egypt as far as the border with the Hittites, circa 2500 BCE. The destruction of Jericho is dated to circa 1500 BCE. Recently a folded lead tablet was discovered at My. Ebal where Joshua was commanded to curse the enemies before the battle of Jericho. The Outside of the tablet is inscribed in Proto-Hebrew, YHWH. Before the expulsion of the Hyksos, Egypt did not control any part of the Levant it was a series of City/ Kingdoms. After the expansion of Egyptian power in the Levant, the Pharaoh would have needed people familiar with the Egyptian manner of authority. The Hebrew account after Joshua, is the book of Judges, not Kings. From circa 1500- circa 1100, the Levant, and all it’s provinces would supply the Pharaohs with military aid of food, arms and manpower for all the conflicts in the Levant such as Meggido and Kadesh. Both Israel ( Lebanon ) and Judah( Israel) would have supplied men fir these conflicts. The Mernepte Stele stating that “ Israel is defeated, it’s seed is no more” .is most likely a memorial to the fighting men during the battle of Kadesh.under Ramses II.

The solution - that Rohl and Kitchen work side by side and together establish and re write what the real history is that’s in line with archaeology!

The lengths some people will go to trying to make history conform to their pre-conceived beliefs rather than starting with the observable evidence, reliable recorded dates (written or excavated remains) and archaeological science rather than admit they had it wrong

They need to forget all that they were taught and start with a fresh opened mind.

The date for the entry into the land is 1592 BC . It requires no revision of Jericho carbon dating, and no revision of conventional Egyptian Chronology for the 12th dynasty downward. The the long biblical chronology was known by Josephus and has 612 years from the Exodus to the building of the Temple. The question to ask is WHY DOES NO ONE CONSIDER JOSEPHUS' LONG CHRONOLOGY?

Honesty and scholarship, especially as it relates to Egyptology and study of the so-called Levant, has always been incongruent concepts.

See, in the academic world, your whole life relies on your ability to be right and correct. They have much to lose. But these people, are not governed by those odds and consequences, so when it comes down to it you have to go with academia solely becuase of the culture that rules over it.

The Exodus came to pass in 1,500 BC. 50 Jubilees from creation.

A painter is proof of a painter, a building is proof of a building and you are proof of God. How you can think that this just all happened for no reason is truly sad. people with these ways of thinking are missing a life they could only dream of. The greatest lie Satan ever told man was that he isnt real! As it is written : Many of my children shall perish because of lack of knowledge!

“Scholars” seem to think that because they’ve studied a subject in depth, it simultaneously sharpened their “logical aptitude and sharpness”, far from it. Their “knowledge” often masquerades itself as indubitable truth. Because you “know” something doesn’t necessarily mean you understand and have the correct conclusions.

One of the biggest reasons for the Egyptian timeline is that there are errors in pharaohs, the times they reigned, and whether they ever reigned. Archeology will tell us that the Exodus occurred in 1280-1310 B.C. A Biblical timeline is not as clear as we would want it to be. A counting of phases of times indicate the Exodus to occur in either 2001 B.C. or 1450 B.C.

Much, much older than people think.

What a way to put it! He said wait for old scholars to die out !? & then says he's not a rebel ? LOL

The bottom line is that most archeologists don't want to trust the Bible as a reliable source for the same reason that society at large doesn't. It would require them to acknowledge God's existence and they would become accountable. Any archeologist who calls the Bible a collection of myths doesn't deserve the time of day. As Paul said, "they willfully close their eyes and refuse to acknowledge God."

This is a pattern with academia because it challenges them that they're wrong and new facts prove it. We need more honest critical thinkers who love the truth like David Rohl.

Hercules narrating...I'm in

use the Septuagint dating for anything older than Joseph not the masoretic text dating and alot more lines up as well as pushing Egyptology dating up 200 years.

With some logic, I can explain very easily why we have "little evidence" of the exodus. Yes, Egypt was great at keeping records. However, if the plagues happened and the phararo was killed by drowning in the red sea, it's very safe to assume Egypts society was on the verge of collapse. People would be fighting for food, not writing down events. Even scribes get hungry. It's simple logic. The bible also says Egypt was heavily damaged after the Exodus. After Egypt recovered, it makes sense that they would want to forget that chapter of history.

This video is a great example of scholars being stuck in the box. ..."too much work, Plus we'd have to admit we're wrong."

The exodus occurred around 1500 bc during the reign of Ahmose I. It was called "the expulsion of the Hyksos". Bronze Age Jericho fell in the 16th century at the end of the Middle Bronze Age, the calibrated carbon remains from its City-IV destruction layer dating to 1617-1530 BCE. Then you have Minoan eruption of around 1570-1546 BC to 1539-1514 BC. If you tie all of that together and narrow the date scope then you will have it. Because all three of these events are tied together.

De-Nile is at flood-stage in Egypt these days.

Giving many different stories by many different men AND women , many paid at this point, gives them lotsa wiggle room with the truth and you have to know that religion or satanism does not want and will not let a TRUE TIMELINE BE ACCEPTED AS IT HURTS THEM AND THEIR PACK OF LIES.

There is so much more interesting and, much earlier human history then the usual half truths spun by the 'experts'.

Through levering a conflation of of people and events- it is possible to link the history of Egypt with Israel. Some juggling of dates and events. The Battle of Kadesh would be a good focus... Sarah, obviously, was both the wife and the sister of, Abraham. Joseph was pivotal too, a generation ahead of Abraham...

At the time of the Pharaoh's of that period, we need to investigate all Egyptian evidence, not just the scriptures! Too many people disagree with each other defending their own viewpoints! They all need to agree to work together to establish if the theories each put forward are matching what Egypt and Isra'el reveal and what the scriptures and history confirm! Well done to David Rohl for instigation of further discussion, even if they don't agree with him! We all need to see these educated men working together, not disputing one another! Disbelief in the Exodus results from man's error! Confirmation of the Exodus also comes from Ron Wyatt's discoveries which play into the whole story and evidence!

Question everything who’ve been taught/told. It is in ‘ not knowing’ that truth reveals itself. Innocent mind. Forthgiving mind, right mind.

The Exodus Pharoh Explained video should put this all to redt.

My grandfather love this stuff he believed in god but not the bible he told me you would not belive whats out there an how long mankind has been around an he drove me insane but i do miss our chats this reminds me of him👍

How very exciting!

The science is never settled.

I believe the Bible is a book of 'history' containing a collection of stories passed down through the ages, so to compare it to an actual dated time line is fanciful at best. That said, there is likely a lot we still don't really know about the Egyptian timeline as they only ever seem to focus on the more recent period and not the previous eras.

Then should we have a branch of science called Turkishology to study the ruins of Globekli Tepe and other stone circles in Turkey?😇

Immanuel veliskovsky is a brilliant brilliant man! I am going to make a claim that will be laughed at but within my lifetime people will soon find out (hopefully sooner than later) that one day he is going to be considered one of the most influential scientists to have ever lived! Even more important than Einstein! Sounds crazy I know but it’s the truth.

You should question the evidence. Everyone should. That is how we make progress in any science.

Archeology only explores from written evidences that a thing happened. They are not chronologist.

Pharaohs and Kings was great series!

Science, including the science of archeology and history is not science if you are unwilling to investigate the problems.

Simcha Jacobovici came out with a special in nat geo over 10yrs ago saying that you had to shift the time lines in order for the exodus to fit properly. Must be true because you never saw him on television again. They did the same thing to Scott Walter when he started talking about pyramids and templars in america.

David Rohl tried to shorten egyptian timeline in order ot fit it with the (shortened) masoretic text. Why not taking the septuagint as the correct biblical chronology and leave the egyptian timeline as it is?