"It's not my fault your body couldn't produce a child." I gagged. I physically gagged. What she said is more disgusting than being force-fed your own fermented vomit.
I think it's even worse when you know that a miscarriage can happen because of something as simple as the fetus having the wrong blood-type compared to the mother. Neither of them seems to know anything about pregnancy and the many, many reasons a fetus can be lost, no matter how far into the pregnancy it is. It's not OP's fault, it's not necessarily OP's body's fault and it's so gross and scummy to word it like it was an active choice in any way. Fuck that entire family
@@ginabell694 I guess even if he pressed charges he would be laughed out of the courtroom after saying this - and if it was a female judge he would maybe face a lawsuit because psychological abuse.
SAME! I am at working listening to this on earbuds and that entire story and update just- I was letting out Victorian Drama Gasps of utter SHOCK cuz HOLY HEAVENS! There is SO much wrong! I won’t lie, I forgot that the sister-in-law was the husband’s sister, cuz I was thinking “oh gods, is the baby actually HIS” cuz of how he was acting. And is STILL acting! I hope OP lives a good life and took him for all he had!
Hey guys, interesting fact: if a man’s sperm is defective, that could cause a miscarriage. This is literally why, Henry the eighth’s later children died at such a rate. So, no, miscarriage is not only never a woman’s fault, if we’re talking about factors that cause a miscarriage, sperm quality is one of them.
Same, I hope second OP can have kids with someone who actually loves her and that her ex is never able to become a father, as poor of an excuse for one as he would be.
31 weeks isn’t even considered a miscarriage. It’s a stillbirth. OP2 had a still born child. Miscarriage isn’t easy no matter when it happens but to carry a child that long in your womb just to lose it 2 months before your due date was my nightmare. She deserves so much better. And for SIL to take her nursery for her own baby is downright evil. I don’t think many of us would have handled it any differently. The husband, SIL and their family in attendance are all terrible and OP is better off without all of them in her life if they thought that she was the one in the wrong. Good riddance to bad company
I think OP is super cool and awesome. I also think that it's mostly OP's husband's fault for not giving her a strong enough child. Since his sperm seems just as much of a deadweight as the husband. 😂😂😂
Agreed. It is stillbirth, and OP shouldn't have to go through that. No woman should. It's very painful to lose a child so close to the due date. I think OP's husband should've been more on her side rather than take the pregnant SIL's side and tell her off for being so insensitive. But nope, he sided with the SIL and insulted his own wife, blamed her for losing the child and destroyed her belongings. OP and her mother did the right thing by making plans to sue the husband as well OP divorcing him. I would've liked to hear how he would take the idea of divorce. OP should also file for a restraining order too. He shouldn't have done what he did and channeled his anger into something else, not destroy OP's things when she asked him to leave her house. If it was me, however, I would've threatened to call the police on him for putting his hands on me after knocking him off of me long enough to reach a phone, locked myself in a room, barricade the door with heavy objects, then call the cops. That man needs help. Badly. And the husband's family should've been more sympathetic to OP and support her when she's at her weakest. And also reign the SIL in and tell her how dumb she is to insult a woman who is having trouble carrying a baby to term. OP: 0/5 NTBH. The husband, SIL and in-laws: 5/5 BH's. Personally, I would've gone for 10/5 BH's for OP's soon-to-be ex-husband, SIL and in-laws, but I'm gonna stick with Rslash's BH scores 🙂
I completely understand. I lost my son at 28 weeks, almost 29 gestation and gave birth to him, sleeping. It was the roughest ride I had ever been through in my life and I've walked away from severely abusive and traumatic relationships in the past before then. 3 years later and that pain is still there. I still go on day to day because I have too, I NEED too otherwise I'll just let my depression take over and consume me for the rest of my life and I just can't do that. To top it off, my ex fiance and I were not meant to be together after that as his alcoholism took full effect and i was always there for him. The first mothers day that came after that experience he texted me a long message telling me " F*** you, YOU should have died that day not our son!" And i was at work when he sent me that message. At that moment i was just completely broken. For OP to have her mother's help especially FINALLY someone at her side at the end to give her that gentle nudge is so very enlightening and much easier to deal with. I hope she destroys him in court and gets a restraining order on that entire family. OP is a Goddess. She is a magnificent, strong woman. I hope she stands tall sooner than later and finds that peace in her life. 💐
That is what I thought too... I wish OP had used the correct term because while both are absolutely terrible stillbirth is worse in my opinion... She didn't just bleed and cramp from the loss she had to deliver her dead baby... Which is the worst thing I personally think a woman can go through... Both have a devastating emotional loss of a child but to then have to be in a room meant for happiness just to have your baby taken from you forever... I'm crying just thinking about how awful that must be...
Story 2: Ok so like…this story is infuriating AND heartbreaking…but was i the only one who cheered when Op told her husband “oh no…you’re leaving too”? Op is a badass and is SOOOOO clearly NTA. I’m glad she got away from this trash family.
I think OP is super cool and awesome. I also think that it's mostly OP's husband's fault for not giving her a strong enough child. Since his sperm seems just as much of a deadweight as the husband. 😂😂😂
@@DarkEinherjaryep as soon as I heard the husband stood by her and told the sister it wouldn’t be long I was like oh no she’s not playing, he’s going too 😂
The behavior of the husband in the second story is SUPER horrifying. She needs a divorce AND a restraining order. Breaking her stuff during his outrage is one of the classic signs of a serial abuser.
@@Zapdroid1did you miss the part where he tried to grab her too in his rage? Yes she slapped him, which she shouldn't have, but him destroying her things, punching a hole in the wall and trying to grab her, plus the blatant disrespect and cruelty he showed through the post is a sign that op should run not walk
@@Zapdroid1 But it was a slap after he verbally assaulted her. And don't forget it wasn't just on inanimate objects, he physically grabbed her and screamed in her face
Second story is wild. I get the husband was grieving the loss from the miscarriages, but he literally replaced his wife with his sister instead of seeking actual help. He destroyed his own marriage.
@@strikeforce1500No it isn't. People do grieve very differently. Some people try to distract themselves as much as possible and others just want to think about it, for example
Story 2: Husband and SIL got 5/5 buttholes from way before the update honestly. The baby shower was nothing more than an a passive-aggressive attack on OP and the signs showed way beforehand. Then the attempt to strongarm OP's nursery? Nah. That SIL is a psychopath, a literal dictionary page of the words "entitlement" and "narcissist." The poster child of cruelty.
I don't ever wish a miscarriage on anyone but I feel the kid might be better off. Being raised by an entitled narcissist is a horrible way to life. Also karma would be taking her due for the SIL if that happened.
"It's not my fault you lost our children!" And that, right there, ladies, is the time where you just tear him the fuck apart where he stands. Do not EVER let any guy treat you this way, at least not without leaving him worse than he was.
*First OP:* It's sad that Terry robbed OP and their daughter of a father-daughter relationship over a lie. A lie that could've gotten OP in legal trouble. I wish OP and his daughter the best. Shoutout to OP's wife for being supportive through the whole thing. *Second OP:* I normally don't condone unaliving people, but I'll make an exception in this case. Just when OP's husband and SIL's disrespect toward her couldn't get any worse, they manage to set the bar even lower. _OP's nursery?!_ That warrants a 5/5 BH score for OP's husband and SIL. OP was NTA.
Just to play Devil’s Advocate for a minute with the first story, the rules surrounding Date Rape are constantly changing. It used to be that deliberately getting a girl drunk enough to pass out or slipping a tranquilizer into her drink and then having sex with her while she was unconscious and unable to consent was the definition of Date Tape. Nowadays if a woman gets drunk enough to initiate sex with you when she wouldn’t give you the time of day while she was sober, and you accept her invitation, then the morning after she can legally accuse you of rape and it will hold up in court. So Terri could have, in a way, told the truth (that they went to a party, got drunk, and had sex) which her family interpreted as having date raped her, and she just didn’t correct them. Is it right? Heck no. I’m just saying that it’s possible.
@@Thundarr100 The other steelman option is that she was in fact raped at a later date and got a rape kit done(Rapist DNA) was already pregnant assumed the baby was the rapist's and never checked, then 30ish years later the daughter got a DNA showing her actual father(not told mum) and then wrote the letter.
I think OP is super cool and awesome. I also think that it's mostly OP's husband's fault for not giving her a strong enough child. Since his sperm seems just as much of a deadweight as the husband. 😂😂😂
“The nursery…” “What nursery, oh yeah the one for MY child that I LOST…” Yeah SIL isn’t staying long enough to even reach the birth Get her out before she assimilates more rooms for her personal “needs”
Story 2: Honestly, that boundary from OP is super reasonable. Just try not to leave an absolute mess and have some sense of responsibility. Yet apparently, SIL can't follow this because she's pregnant? Mate, being pregnant doesn't give you an excuse to be absolutely lazy, at least TRY. And then came the fact that the SIL wanted to take OP's nursery, called OP selfish when she refused, and the husband is on SIL's side? And then the husband proceeds to commit destruction of property? What is wrong with these two? Did they just stop caring about OP and look at her like an exploitable maid? Well, whatever it is, at least OP doesn't have to deal with him anymore.
And neither one of them even discussed with op about the nursery, did they just assume she would accept it? Op is the one who pays for everything but she doesn't even get a choice in what happens in her own home that she bought or the nursery that she set up. Im glad op is getting a divorce but i honestly feel bad for what Thoes 2 put her through.
So many of these awful people in these stories need to stop treating every mistake baby like a miracle. Because news flash, a 20-year-old single girl getting knocked up is no miracle.
The worst part of the last story is the fact that literally everyone gave op dirty looks when they attempted to steal her nursery for her baby that died. The husband, sister in law and literally every single person in that room deserves to go to hell.
I think it is more that the sister-in-law showed up so close to the miscarriage, so he transposed all of that emotion and the feelings and everything onto her as a very unhealthy coping mechanism for his grief. It doesn't excuse his actions or any of this, but I think it's more of a result of his grief
Story 2 just kept getting sadder and sadder, it honestly breaks my heart what this woman had to go through. I'm glad she's separating from her husband and I hope he rots for what he said
Did RSlash not realize the second story was about the brother favoring his pregnant sister over his wife that recently suffered a miscarriage? Because it was already messed up had it been his SIl but no, it's HIS sister. This feels like emotional insest that was really easy to ignore until this.
Or, you know, he simply misspoke. Yeah, he could have rerecorded/edited, but that is a real pain in the @$$ to do, especially when you post as frequently as he does.
The fact the wife in the last story, even questions if she was in the wrong shows just how abusive her awful husband and sister-in-law are. They treated her like garbage, blamed her for things that were beyond her control, made her feel like a servant in her own home, didn’t give her any financial or emotional support, and then had the goal to pretend that she was the villain. My best wishes go out to OP. It sounds like she deserves better.
The worst part for me is that it's actually the Husband who at fault for the miscarriage. Sperm quality is one of the natural reasons why women get miscarriage and stillbirth. The eggs were already made before birth and go under a process that prevents them from aging and getting damaged
Story 2: OP you didn't give up on the marriage, your husband destroyed it before any of this happened. Whatever his mindset is doesn't matter, it's clear that he thought of you is only a servant to him and his family before SIL moved in, because if it would jump the slow-burn he wouldn't have it mediately jump to calling you selfish any and every time you wanted to be treated with some kind of respect. He let his sit there talk that way about you because he must have been saying all those terrible things about you to his family. OP you didn't do anything wrong and you didn't deserve to be tortured like this, but there is one silver lining here. You got rid of the trash and your mom is ready to help you destroy this sob.
Exactly! The husband gave up after the last miscarriage/stillbirth. Mathmatically speaking, I think OP must’ve still been pregnant when the sister showed up. So for her to have been put through all that, I am glad she kicked them TF out and I wish only the best for her.
@@afuzzycreature8387 it is entirely possible that he was waiting to show his true colors once OP had a baby and was thus trapped with him. lots of shitty people do that.
Story 2: I appreciate that OP is trying to give her husband space for his own grief, but his behavior far exceeds that. What he did was blatantly and repeatedly harmful to his wife and something tells me that behavior might have manifested even if there were no miscarriages. I’m glad she is leaving him and I hope she doesn’t look back.
Exactly. Notice how he was apologetic at first but then snapped when she said she still needed space? That behavior was NOT grief. That was retaliation/punishment for her not caving. That’s how abusers react to not getting what they want.
"I feel guilty for just giving up on my husband" might just be the worst line of that whole story. OP still doesn't seem to grasp how utterly egregious ALL of her husband's behaviour has been.
My mouth literally dropped open when I realized the SIL and the OP's husband set up the nursery in the OP's miscarried baby's room! I was like "Aw, HELL NO!" This is by far one of the most shocking stories I've ever heard here on rSlash. The audacity of the OP's husband and the SIL, I'm so glad she kicked them both out of her house. *RSLASH PLEASE KEEP A LOOK OUT FOR ANY OTHER UPDATES ON THIS ONE!!!*
Story 1: as bad as this may sound because I know how bad a force religious household can be I have no sympathy for this woman. Anyone that fakes being a victim of r-word it's specially for very Petty reasons will always be human garbage to me, especially when it does something terrible like this. She let that girl think her father was a disgusting monster her whole life, then continue to claim to be a victim to save face. If it turns out she is lying then she'll deserve whatever happens.
Not to mention it could end up way, way worse for the father. He was "only" robbed from his daughter and his good image towards her, but he could end up losing his entire life and humanity, and worse, he might've been still alive after that.
Well, she didn't tell her daughter that OP was the abuser, she told her that she was abused and the daughter found him on her own. There is still a chance that she was telling the truth (that she was abused a month later and that the doctors made her believe that she was pregnant from that abuser), and if this is true, maybe she never tried to find out who the father was. So maybe when her daughter told her she found OP, the "abuser", she realised that her daughter wasn't the produce of abuse and that she was wrong. TBH I wouldn't blame her not to try to learn more about the identity of the father after such a traumatic event if it actually happened. It's unlikely, but not impossible. We've heard weirder stories here.
Not to mention how it undermines the victims of actual {blank} by throwing that word out there to simply avoid accountability for what actually happened.
Story 1 Ah, the classic "premature" Catholic baby. Usually, the first baby after the wedding is claimed to be premature. Musical chair claims of rape are a new twist.
Not really, sadly. One of my friends was raised in that situation, she was the "r baby" that was entirely conceived consentually, her father took her mom to court to prove it. The whole thing was incredibly damaging for her, and I'm hoping she's since gone through therapy.
Bringing this up is a sure-fire one way ticket to "marriage-annihilation" city. Even a 4 yo would have enough self awareness to know not to bring that type of stuff up.
Story 2, if OP's husband thinks it's important to clean up after his sister, HE can do all the work. SIL is a pile of garbage. Husband is a pile of garbage. Kick 'em both out.
Story 2: Am I the only one who wonders if the husband has been cheating? I'm not even sure if we're talking Alabama with the SIL or just regular cheating. He's gone 12 hours a day, apparently doesn't contribute much, if anything, to the household, and was so quick to turn on OP. Like yeah, sure, maybe his grief manifested in a weird way where he started obsessing over his sister's pregnancy or whatever. Grief makes people do weird stuff. But that obsession gives me good ol' Alabama vibes, plus the hunch about cheating that the 7am-7pm away from home time gave me... Yeah. I don't like where any of that story could be going other than the obvious divorce.
The miscarriage story, the more you read the sicker I felt bc I KNOW the pain that poor woman was feeling. I am so triggered. Honestly, the story made me want to throw up, punch the husband and SIL in the face and hug OP to the point of exhaustion. What that family did to her is unforgivable and the way her husband attacked her verbally and then physically was absolutely disgusting. I hope she gets some counseling and finds peace. My heart just breaks for her.
Story 2: It was so funny that the husband thought he was staying, like stading next to his "wife" being all like "don't worry" like NO, GTFO!!! Sending all my love to OP she deserves so much more
The only downside is that slapping him potentially complicates the legal aspects of this. I'm not saying he didn't deserve it, but I suspect the law won't see it the same way.
@@user-bc7cb8uu7eespecially if others from her Zoom conference saw. He may also try to say OP was the one who did the property damage. He’s a worthless excuse for a human being and will do anything to hurt OP
@@lorilancaster5917 He could try but OP has the pictures of the bruises from him trying to strangle her. That alone gives her MORE credibility than him.
It's unthinkable to me to actually try to be cordial to a woman who never told me about my child and raised the kid saying "your dad graped me, you're a grape child" I would've been absolutely livid and sued the crap outta her even if i knew that would likely do nothing to her but eat her time a bit. Had i been in the daughters shoes i would've cut contact instantly.
It reminds me of a story I read a while back with a guy who suddenly got custody of his teenage son, who was raised to think he had assaulted his mother, when she had actually assaulted him when he was a teenager, and now he was left to deal with the trauma of his own assault being dug up and the completely unnecessary trauma of his kid. People are fuckin crazy.
In story 2, the way OP turned to her mother even though they had their own issues, and her mother was immediately there for her and taking care of business. THAT is support. I hope, if I ever find a husband, that he never even considers acting like this poor excuse for a man did.
Story 2: I do wonder, with the husband gone for twelve hours per day and contributing nothing to the household or the relationship, if he had a lover on the side, too. She clearly was carrying the weight of everything relating to finances and the household.
The OP in the second story showed considerable restraint with _just_ slapping her ex-husband. I bet more women would've straight-up assaulted him after what he said if they were in her shoes.
Yoooo I’m at work listening to the second story and I’m choking back a panic attack for OP. The pure disrespect she’s being handed by HER OWN HUSBAND is so gut wrenching and disgusting that I legit can’t even believe that the husband and SIL thought they were in the right! And then the husband started begging then insulting when he doesn’t get his way. I purely rejoiced inside when OP slapped him (props to OP’s mom for being a total boss babe for getting pictures of the damages and being OP’s rock). Hope during the divorce, OP takes the ex-husband to the cleaners for the damages (house wise and emotional) and gets a restraining order against the whole family because there’s no doubt in my mind they’ll drag OP across hell and back
Apparently this is the 'pregnant people make terrible decisions and hurt people' episode. First story, good God Terry is a total piece of shit. She took the worst possible way to handle this and slandered OP for decades just because she didn't want to look bad to her parents. She made her unplanned daughter *hate* OP for so long and didn't say a thing to OP and didn't let him say his piece until the very end. Second story, OP didn't shouldn't have even given her soon-to-be EX a choice. Throw him out with her SIL, they're both complete and total garbage, both of them deserve to be in the dumpster, and also call CPS or some other group so they can take the baby away because there's no way that poor baby deserves her as a mother.
I think Terry really played herself. She likely didn't think it mattered because nobody in her family knew the guy, and she wasn't planning on ever telling him. However, after a while she realized that now, she was hiding TWO terrible lies from her family instead of one. So she just ended up making everything worse for everyone. This is why you NEVER lie about rape.
@@dorian_deloreanHow do you know she was? I mean, she blamed it on OP, OP exposed her lie, so then she said it happened with somebody else a month after they originally did it, like did you even listen to the story?
Last story: Or... The husband isn't just transferring the feelings to his sister's baby... He might actually *be* the father! We've heard so many messed up stories, that I wouldn't be surprised if it was the case.
Theory: SIL is a manipulative, selfish, toxic Piece of Shitake and was pouring poison honey into her brother’s ear (not that I’m excusing any of his actions; he is just as much at fault) about how he and his wife could raise her baby as his own. She could laze about and get pampered for a year and then dump her baby and run with no regrets.
OP should've replied to that "It's not my fault your body couldn't produce a child." comment by saying "It's not my fault your baby daddy doesn't want you." and kicking the SIL out right there and then. First time I've been so shocked listening to a story.
Story 2 truly enrages me, and were I not so freakin' tired at the time of watching, I'd be seething with white-hot anger. I just...the amount of pure, evil, disgusting, filthy delusion going on in that story on the side of the husband and the family is INSANE!! How could any of them dare think OP is the bad guy here!? People really need to start learning where they stand in these situations, because I am SO tired of this refusal to take accountability for one's own wrongdoings, when it probably could have been salvaged by doing so! So many situations can be resolved when you start by taking responsibility, but when you can't even do that? Then its pretty much hopeless no matter how minor a situation is, let alone if one is major like the story. I just...gah!! I just hope OP can live her best life and perhaps find a way for karmic justice to reach the family as well, because the husband seems likely to at least face legal justice, but the family is sadly more safeguarded.
Fuck, I had to pause the video when they went up to the nursery and just go hug my cat for a minute. It’s fucking unforgivable. The fact that OP had *any* empathy for her (now-ex) husband is far more than I would’ve had.
I am on OP's side, and as much as I hate the other people she isn't completely innocent. She shouldn't have slapped her husband, and while that may seem like a minor thing, it's true that she was the one who escalated it into physical violence. That doesn't excuse the behaviors of the others but yeah.
@@sprshb1852 True enough, it’s hard to restrain oneself in such a scenario. I know I’d be tempted to strike that moron as well. But it did her no good to just commit technically unjustified violence. :(
Story #2: I just want the husband after who knows how long to just wake up one day and realize what type of piece of shit he truly is. You know when you have a flashback to cringe things you did when you were younger? Yea that but this dude realizing what the wife he lost, the life he lost, the baby he lost and all that sorrow, all that depression, just bubbling inside of him to realize his wife didn’t cause this, he did.
@brendanboomhour7606 I was gonna say punch too, but I was afraid that the OP would sock her so hard that the SIL would hit the floor, and as vile as she is, you should never risk a miscarriage.
You guys have no idea how cathartic it is to here someone in one of these post actually slap the shit out of someone for the amount god awful shit they pull and I'm happy that OP is leaving and that the mom started documenting this stuff so that it can proceed
I have a similar story involving my mother and my older step sister. Both were pregnant at the same time back in 2016. Mom had lost the baby, but step sis didn’t. When step sis found out what day mom was supposed to be due, step sis decided that she would pick that day for her c-section. It broke my mom, and the step sis still does stuff like this to this day involving her kids just so she doesn’t have to deal with spending any thoughts on her kids.
Damn I was hoping you’d say the sister picked that day as a sweet tribute or memory or something. But I guess she would’ve discussed it first with your mom if that were the case. I’m sorry to hear step sister seems to be so wicked.
And who were probably fed lies that the father either abandoned the mother after finding out or being told that their father is a sexual predator, like the first scenario is bad enough because the kid grows up thinking their father never wanted them when in actuality they didn't know they even existed (kinda like that one story from a while ago with the 18 yr old daughter being led to believe her father abandoned them, but was led to believe the mother had gotten an abortion like they both agreed to), but the second scenario that's a whole other can of worms, both in terms of legal ramifications and just straight up claiming to be a victim when nothing actually happened
Imagine all of the crazy politicians in power who will throw men into prison because they were falsely accused of crimes that didn't commit because some women lied about a twenty five plus year old sexual fling.
My girfriend only had her mom. She told me her dad pushed her mom into having her, then abandoned her. But her mom doesn't have any photos of her dad, and when my gf a year earlier found him, he told her that he didn't had an idea her mom was pregnant. He said that they were a thing, but for a couple of weeks, because the mom was controlling and abusive, and broke up with him because he cheated on her on her dream
Statistics put this in the millions upon millions based on how Many women have been privately polled on knowing or questioning if 1 or more of their children is the child of another man. Either from infidelity or mostly fromthe women sleeping with multiple men prior to being pregnant and choosing the best suited one to claim she got pregnant by. Paternity tests should be mandatory across the board.
Rslash hit the nail on the head with the last story. That’s exactly what’s happening . That was his way of grieving too. That’s why he didn’t care his sister was being toxic . In his mind , She was going to give him a child . That’s why he was so Ok with the baby going in his child’s nursery . That’s why when op called him out he said something that horrible . He blames op for the miscarriage and now op is ruining his second chance to have a child . That’s why he got so violent and explosive . He held back all his pain from the miscarriage and op slapping him solidified that his chance at the “perfect” happy family , was over . That’s also why at no point does op say he was always this aggressive , or lazy , or toxic , or mean , he didn’t become like this until the miscarriage . What happened to Op and the husband was tragic. However rather than truly grieve he latched onto his sister and her baby and used them to replace the child he lost. The sister on the other hand is a trashy toxic POS . She’s living rent free in the house of someone and all they ask is that you follow their rules . Then she knowing decides to try and take over the nursery of OP’s lost child . That’s disgusting and selfish . Pregnancy brain can mess with a woman sure , however what it also does is it amplifies traits that were already there . She wasn’t toxic because she was pregnant , she was toxic and being pregnant made it worse I feel so bad for op. To go through the grieving alone , then to suffer through the stress of this crap the entire time . Only to have someone fundamentally disrespect her loss , and then have the person who should’ve been her partner in all this reveal he blames her for everything . That’s just disgusting
Story 1: So basically, Terry had premarital with a Jew, and rather than admit this to her strictly Catholic parents, she lies that she was SA'd, and then changes her story after OP told the daughter that "No, it was consensual" Whatever happened to "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor?"
Honestly, it reeks of desperation. Considering what KIND of catholics her family were implied to be, its likely they would have given her genuine monstrous abuse over it, and if possible, go after OP. I just wish she didn't use SA as the cover-up story, or at the very least didnt use OP, or just did ANYTHING else if she was desperate to lie. :(
The Jesus fandom is the one of the largest fandoms in the world, but it's also the one where virtually no one in the fandom has read the source material. I mean... at least it seems that way? At least the average fan doesn't _retain_ any of it.
@@desperateneedofscotch Here's a better solution; dont commit acts of abuse on people for (any reason really but to name a specific one for instance) "sinning" or "bedding [x group we hate]"!
Story 2: I have never had the displeasure of meeting scum on this level. That sister-in-law’s entitlement, cruelty, and audacity along with her husband’s weak spine and disloyalty were such a spectacle to read about. I hate to say it but the tragic miscarriage allowed OP to not have any ties to this f*cked up family after they divorce. As heartbroken as I am for her for losing a baby-which, I too suffered from exactly 3 miscarriages, one in the third trimester too-this was a sign that her and her husband were not meant to be. He doesn’t deserve a diamond like her. Wherever life takes you, OP, I hope you live a happy life, especially now that they’re not around.
The second story hit me in the feels, hard. This woman is not only grieving over her lost child due to a miscarriage, but the chemical change after the miscarriage as well. Plus a house that no matter how much she cleans, it gwts messier. AND she has to deal with working, and her OWN chores. Now shes cleaning up after 1or2 other people than herself, the SIL and ex Husband. AND shes dealing with people belittling her NORMAL reaction to stress. AND shes TWICE as stressed as a person who works and does all the chores, because shes not only grieving the miscarriage, BUT ALSO handling all this BS AND the gaslighting that she shouldnt feel how she does and the downplaying of her emotions. And they had the AUDACITY to say "well its not OUR fault your body couldnt produce a baby" (paraphraseing cuz memory). The audacity for someone to say that, means they dont see JUST how bug a deal doing ALL the chores PLUS clean after a FULLY GROWN ADULT WOMAN who, yes, is pregnant, but cleary stopped trying to cleanup after herself and give OP more work and stress. Oh id be so livid if i were OP
Story 2: That was super creepy how the husband just thought it was okay to have the sister-in-law stay at the wife's house for forever. He and the SIL talked and decided to have the baby room for her kid meaning she was planning on staying forever. I think the husband thought the SIL and her kid would be his new family as his wife would be the annoying third roommate. Once he realized that wasn't going to happen he tried to backtrack and pretend he wasn't on his SIL side until the wife kicked him out. Then when his plan didn't work he blew up seeing that he lost everything. I don't know maybe in his head his mind replaced OP with SIL to help with grief so that was why he was on her side and pretty much acted like his wife wasn't his wife. When his wife kicked him out his mind finally connected back to reality and the anger he pushed down came back up, but this was terrifying. This might be how he is and he was just able to hold it back. Maybe her having this kid was his plan to trap her so he could be like this towards her. Glad she was able to get away from him. I think SIL saw OP loosing a kid as a way in. She knew they would be grieving and apparently has been talking with the husband behind OPs back. I think she thought she could manipulate them both using their grief and her baby. It worked on the husband but not OP.
Eh, he tends to side with abusive wives more often than I am comfortable with. Look up his video called "r/AmITheA**hole for Triggering My Wife's Abuse?" from 2 years ago for one of the worst examples of it..
Honestly, I agree that the husband in story 2 was delaing with his feelings/grief by transferring the care and attention to his pregnant sister...and he didn't realise the damage it was doing until he'd nuked his marriage. Good job there, buddy. You could have just talked it out with your wife or a professional, but nope. You just scorched everything. Also appreciate that even though OP didn't speak to her fmaily much, her mother still dropped everything and came over to help out.
I wouldn't be surprised if OP's ex husband secretly hooked up with SIL. And tbh I'm very convinced it's like that. The way they both act as if covering /defending eachother, saying more or less the same thing. I'm also convinced that OP's ex husband is the cause of the miscarriages.
S1) I hope the OP and his daughter can make wonderful memories moving forward. Terry is disgusting. Nothing, not religion, not sexual preferences, not bad experiences with passionate hugging and not revenge for being dumped are reasons to make up this lie. So many survivors and victims of false accusations loose so much because of these kind of monsters. Utterly disgusting. S2) Divorce. Idc what he promises, apologizes for, begs or pleads for. What her SIL did was beyond inhumane and he condoned it. OP deserves so much better and can now thank whatever entity she can be forever free of this trash and it's family.
@@wmdkitty Terry DID lie though she told her kid all through her life: "Hey OP raped me and got me pregnant with you" then when OP offered his side of the story, Terry then changed her story to be like "well me and OP smashed but then I was raped and im not sure whose kid you are since you were born early!" Then the kid did the DNA test and OP is the father but in her mind she assumed OP was the rapist and to find out he's not and her moms been lying since she changed her story.
Story 2, I can understand why husband wanted to have his Sister with him. He was coping as rslasha mentioned, but he treated his wife so badly that grief is not a excuse.
Story one actually have a similar story. My mother is a genealogist so she insisted that I do both 23 and me and ancestry just so that she could confirm and compare the two sites. I agreed because I found that interesting. About a year or two after I took the test I got somebody contacting both me and my father who had taken the test saying that according to the DNA test we were about as related as cousins. She was trying to find out anything about her family because she was given up for adoption as a baby. She had found her mother but unfortunately her mother had already passed away from cancer by the time she had found out about her. She said that according to her grandparents on her mother's side that the mother had gotten pregnant in college, kept the baby and gave it up for adoption. We knew what part of the family had gone to college in that area so we started contacting them. The first cousin we asked if he could have possibly fathered a child in so and so year at college left hysterically and unequivocally said no. We didn't pry because we don't have too much communication with this part of the family, so we don't know if he's gay or if he was a virgin at the time or what the story was. But when we contacted his brother who was overseas and asked the same question, he paused , a long hard pause. He said it was possible... So we suggested he take the ancestry DNA test which is how she came into contact with us. Sure enough he took it and it confirmed that he was indeed the father. He was over the moon. He already had a family and children but now he had his first grandchild and a daughter he had never known about so he was ecstatic and his family was very accepting of her. These DNA kits are a huge blessing to children that have been lied to or hidden away. Truly, the progress of human medical science in the past hundred years has been unbelievable.
Both of those stories were awful. The first one at least has somewhat of a happy ending. The 2nd one, my heart breaks for OP. Her husband is a terrible human being, so is it any wonder that his sister was as well? He was very okay with his wife, who just lost their baby, continuing to not only be walked all over by him, but his sister as well, when he should have been supporting his wife through one of the worst times of their lives. And then to throw it into her face as if she caused their baby's death!?!?! That man is a disgusting piece of trash, and I am relieved that OP decided to throw him where he belongs. I hope she is able to grieve properly and hopefully move on. She deserves so much better than what happened.
Shout out to OP’s mum in the second story. Obviously we don’t know what has happened previously, but this situation she handled perfectly. Couldn’t have done it better
Hey Rslash. Love the show, been a subscriber for a while now. One thing, the topics on a day to day basis are very emotionally heavy. While I am able to let daily stories about horrible families and dead babies slide right off my back, I would appreciate a palate cleanser maybe once a week. You know, how about throw in a Tree Law, Tales From IT, or Tales from Night Audit once a week just so the constant barrage of abusive fathers, rape children, and pedos is easier to take? Just a thought.
Story 1 enraged me to the core. I have an aunt who really was *abused* at her first college party and has never recovered from it. It was so bad she couldn't have children, she never was able to find someone to fall in love with after and has lived her whole life in fear and pain. Hearing this person lie about such a horrible situation pissed me off. Yes her life would have been hard raising a child by themselves but she made her child's life a living hell for her own self respect in her parents eyes. My father was a single parent in the 70s, and he tells how hard it way but never made my brother feel an ounce of guilt. He was a ops child but owned up to it and never fed him lies or twisted him against the mother did. This left a super sour taste with me how people can lie about these things to fave their own skin but leave a innocent child with the burden adults have made.
Same here. And I hope there's an another update when the daughter moves with her kid to OP's state to live near him. Plus, if she becomes ill (or gets injured), she should have a judge give OP and his wife permanent guardianship of her daughter, instead of letting her go to the foster care system.
Stories like the second one always get me. My parents lost a child minutes after they were born and when I see how it still affects them over 20 years later around that date I can't understand how anybody can act so callous, especially when such little time has passed.
Omfg. I feel so bad for story two. That husband and SIL are awful cruel and toxic people. I really hope OP is doing better. Especially with the tantrum of him breaking stuff!!
Story 2: I have never wanted to outright claw into someone's flesh and scatter their innards like pillow feathers this much on behalf of another person, dear god. OP deserves all the love, care and respect for everything she contributed and withstood in that relationship. I just wish this could've been an episode of r/nuclearrevenge where op ruins their lives for the monsters those people are, but alas.
Last story hurts to hear. I really hope she's able to make a clean break, keep her house, and move on. Even if he's hurting, that kind of backlash never goes away.
I’ve heard the second one before, and my favorite WTF moment is when the husband turned on his sister and went “it’ll just be a little while” as if he didn’t just insult his wife with misogynistic intent and undermine her in her own home, and then he’s mad and all surprised pikachu face that she looked at him and basically said “uh uh, you too.”
For the second story, it sounds like the husband took the miscarriage really hard and blamed his wife, but bottled up how he felt. Then when his pregnant sister needed help, he may have felt that it could have been a way to regain that experience of having a child. Explaining why he pushed so hard to house his sister and why he would diminish his wife's feelings and grow to resent her. Really sad all around
Story 2: OP was grieving. Yes, technically, the nursery is empty and having a child fill it makes sense, but it's not hers to claim without permission while OP was still grieving her own baby's death. She's not ready to take jt down yet, it's still decorated for her baby because it would be too painful to take it away or even go in there right now. Taking it down would be facing the fact that her baby died, and it takes time to process that. Maybe, if the SIL was kinder and as helpful as one can be when pregnant, she could have ASKED if it would be okay to use the nursery when it was closer to her own baby's due date. Having your baby shower close to OP's due date and then showing off HER nursery, which should have had HER newborn, is evil. What an awful sister in law. It's a lot to ask for a mother who recently miscarried (or technically as another commenter pointed out, had a stillbirth) to care for a pregnant person and handle all the joys and excitements of a new baby being given to someone else when you should have had that too... and yet she was willing. OP is so selfless, yet her sister in law trampled all over her and her grief while rubbing her pregnancy right in her face
As someone who's watched all 1750 episodes, there isn't much that shocks me anymore, but that last one definitely did. I also don't get how no one on the husband's family side took OPs side. I know they know her husband/sister more, but no one saw how disrespectful it is to try and take a woman's nursery that recently miscarried. That whole family is cold.
I was thinking more about story 2, and a horrifying idea came into my mind… Does OP’s husband actually BLAME HER for the miscarriages, and did he do all that (clearly intentional and hurtful) stuff with SIL as some kind of “revenge”?! If so, that puts the entire story into a new and disgusting light. I hope OP bleeds this SOB dry as a mummy in court.
Last story: that isn't him releasing any pain he's bottled up from the miscarriages. He made fun of you for experiencing them, and comforted his sister after you stood up for yourself bc she made fun of your miscarriages. Even if it was from his pain, you don't want to remain married to a man who bottles up his emotions and lets them all out at you.
What a whiplash between a story featuring a strong, supportive married couple navigating the husband discovering a lost child and a story where the husband literally throws his wife under a bus.
Story 2: emotional abuse from both the S-I-L and the sack of garbage. Divorce is the only way to go with this one. I am glad to hear OP is getting out of that. I can't even put into words how disgusted I am hearing that people actually think like the SIL and (ex) husband...
Story 1: Why? Why do women lie about grape allegations? Why would a single mom rather withhold their child from their biological father and not even attempt to receive child support.
My guess is husband of the seconds story told his sister that they had a totally unused nursery the sister could just use because clearly they werent going to use it (out of spite and anger) and never told his wife that was the plan. So when the wife found out the husband doubled down that the wife was being unreasonable and hateful. Either way. Still divorce territory. Glad she is safe, sad for her pain. The healthy thing to do would be for the husband to have had a private conversation with his wife and show understanding that their nursery being used for another persons baby would be painful, but at least they could have the joy helping to raise their future neice or nephew.
My first question for the second story was "what husband?" OP is right: she just has two of the worst roomates ever. Also, it might not be OP's fault that she can't have children: maybe the husband's sperm is to blame. Anyway, it's r/AITA, so let's grade everyone: -OP and her mother: 0/5 a-holes -Ex-husband, ex-SIL and everyone who sides with them: 5/5 a-holes
Jesus christ, no, glad OP is dumping her quite honestly, cruel and sadistic husband. Blaming his wife, the would-be mother to his children, for an unavoidable incident like that then have the fucking NERVE to dote on his pregnant sister instead of supporting and grieving with his wife?????? WHO JUST LOST THEIR BABY??? I have never been this mad at someone in a story like this since finding your channel, rSlash, oh my god.
Story 2: Sounds like ops husband cheated with the sister thats way he so protective of her. Im glad op was able to get out of that situation hopefully they are able to find a support group
Story 2: It sounds to me like the soon to be ex husband blamed OP for the miscarriage, and the only reason this didn't come out sooner was because he saw his sister as a replacement mother to a future child he could father. He seemed to be expecting OP to make up for her "failure" and cater to his sister's every need(including giving her the nursery).
It sounds like he could sue Terry for defamation and parental alienation And also his wife is incredibly affectionate and accepting i mean wow she wants to know her stepdaughter and also like another poster said I've heard this story before Second story Husband and Sil I'm not sure on the husband part as I'm not sure if op is going to keep those idiots those selfish assholes and her brother are probably going to out on their asses
Story 2, i was so shocked of this story, how can a husband don't back up his wife, insult her, tell her she's selfish after all the trauma. And the entitleness of that pregnant witch. This is so messed up, pure sc+m behavior. They deserve BOTH a 5/5 AH score Insta divorce for this unforgivable behavior
Story 1: I’m happy OP and his daughter finally found each other and have a relationship. Very sad there was 3 decades of the daughter thinking she was a product of SA. 😢
The update to story 2, when OP ex-husband say the morning after the baby shower. Them where fighting words, if not fighting words deaths words toward someone who had a miscarriage
It's pretty pathetic the lies people will tell just to keep from getting disowned. if your family actually loves you they won't disown for something as Petty as premarital sex and pregnancy.
I'm mortified by story 2. The audacity of the husband and the sister in law. How insensitive can you be? That is cruel on another level. I wouldn't ever be in OP's shoes as I don't want kids but I can only imagine the suffering. First sister in law abuses OP, sucks her dry for everything, steals OP's would-have-been baby's nursery and claims it's hers, mocks OP all in OP's house. Nah get rid of both of them, don't even give the husband a second chance. As grim as it is, at least OP didn't have a child with him. I hope OP can have a healthy child with someone who treats her well. I've never been so flabbergasted by someone's cruelty and audacity. It's been a long time since I've seen something that low, and I'm used to pretty cruel stuff as an ab*se victim with gaslighting family members.
Story 2: There’s definitely something rather incestuous about how OP’s (soon to be ex) husband was treating his sister’s pregnancy. I’m not saying he’s the actual father, just that it was sick how he and his sister were presenting OP’s child’s nursery as something he and his sister had set up for "their" child. Yuck! And I know you shouldn’t place blame where miscarriages are concerned, but isn’t it just as likely that there is something wrong with the husband’s sperm and that he’s the major contributing factor as to why all three pregnancies failed? Experiencing a miscarriage is awful, but I’d be seriously considering the possibility that OP was just not meant to be tied to this, as it turns out, extremely nasty, hateful man and his obnoxious family. Obviously nobody wants to go through three miscarriages, but this has exposed what a horrible and malicious person her disgusting husband is.
