r/Bestof My Friend Murdered My Wife 

some people just don't deserve their organs

THIS FUCKING THIS. She’s pure fucking evil

@@Nerobyrne China can take care of this

Not only that, in the funeral she will blame OP.

I wonder how much of that "You're not the only one who loved her" was a sincere "I was in love with your wife and tried to get her to leave you" comment

Or did she die because she couldn't get the baby. We will never know

@@dudeorduuude5211 You make a good point. That could be true, too. I immediately assumed she planned to kill the baby along with herself. However, it's possible that when she wasn't trusted with her own baby, she felt like a failure as a mother and became overwhelmed. As you said, we will never know.

@@jaimedritt4622 sounded like she was psychotic and should have been in a hospital and on medication. Very sad.

From the story of my parents splitting up, this makes it 2 times I've heard of parents demanding they get the baby but having no idea where they were going to take said baby/if they were going to go anywhere besides off a bridge. The fact i've now heard about it twice sounds like it's more common than people would know

@@dudeorduuude5211 yeah I was betting on that

that "friend" is just a degenerate horrid person for planting seeds of her partner cheating and making up excuses for no good reason. i hope she rots in hell and suffers for the rest of her misserable existenceknowing she murdered her own friend and put her friends husband in such a horrible place she can die a slow painful death for all i fucking care

Jessie is the schadenfreude type, I've seen them before.

a sociopathic monster

I had PPP. It was the worst and most terrifying thing I have ever been through.

I was thinking this as well. Jesse may have watered the plants but the seeds were already planted. OPs wife legitimately went off the deep end, and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if she had planned to take her daughters life right before her own.

Nothing except entertainment

Jessie sounds bitter and alone since she's got a lot of time on her hands to meddle with the marriage of two good people trying to be new parents. She was jealous and wanted her "friend" to be alone with her. Instead she took it further and got her killed. Wicked witch forreal.

A psychopath (by definition) gets pleasure in inflicting pain. Some people behave this way for fun. There are no consequences to them and they have fun controlling a puppet. If Jessie is not a psychopath then she was/is a jealous and bitter individual. We'd need more context as to Jessie's lifestyle other than being a stay at home mom. Now I may be reading too much into this but OP said she's a mom, not a wife. If this is the case this is the primary reason Jessie destroyed OP's relationship. OP's wife had a husband that was looking after all of them while Jessie has no one to rely on and has to take care of her 2 kids.

​@@Lordofthelosers01 *Sadist

Some people just want to watch the world burn.

Some things just can’t be forgiven

That regret is probably gonna drive her to suicide sadly

@@Silk.Web2I doubt Sarah thought that far ahead

More likely that she needed the dad's money.

​@@aleahlrbExactly. She's horrible.

There was actually an update from OP in the comments, although it's from an alt account so potentially fake, but in it OP says that the parents already knew about what had happened. They just didn't want to "lose Jessie too"

@@DoctorOaks if that’s a real update then the In laws suck too. I couldn’t imagine keeping someone who was basically responsible for my child’s death near me

Really? That's just pathetic of them to me.

@@DoctorOaks I think OP should tell the other in-laws (cousin in law, aunt-in-law etc.) About what Jessie did. If the parents won't listen then the in-laws will have to snap them out of it or cut them off completely too, make them completely isolated only to have jessie to talk to if they like her that much

@@locusxe1411 They're already trash for not cutting off the person responsible for their daughter's death.

What gain?! What did she even gain from driving her friend to suicide?

@@mr.x991some people enjoy watching peoples life get ruined especially when they help cause it. Kinda like how home wreckers enjoy splitting up families.

​@@mr.x991control

@@mr.x991 some people have such low self control, that just the dopamine hit from gossiping is a gain. I wouldn’t be surprised if the reason she was in the car on the night she died was because of something Jessie said.

And that's why I don't feel bad for Sarah or any of them. I hope they suffer for all eternity. People have killed for less.

I was thinking about this. Out of the respect of the friendship they once had, back down. Say I’m honored you want me to walk you down the aisle, but it’s something that should just between you and your father. He’s a scumbag all around.

He wasn't dad's best friend. He was his worst enemy.

@@virtualatheist unfortunately I have to disagree with you on that, an enemy can’t betray you, but a friend absolutely can.

They started as their best friend and became their worst enemy, the dad went scorched earth

Jessie is so evil.. can’t believe she did this omfg

@@goofyrat2938 And she got away with it. Don't forget that part.

I've seen it happen a lot... a married woman hangs out with her single friends and eventually get a divorce because single life looks so much more fun. But Jessie is pure evil, deliberately trying to cause the divorce with her unfounded accusations of cheating and manipulating OP's wife.

I agree. The wife was definitely planning to take the baby with her.

She should have taken Jessie with her.

She was.

Glad I wasn't the only one that picked up on that.

This. If she thinks she can hop up there and say a sob story where she’ll most likely STILL try to blame OP, he should tell everyone what she did before she even opens her mouth. She doesn’t deserve to play the grieving best friend.

I think Jessie was in love with the wife.

Jessie is probably both a psychopath and a narcissist, as she has a lot of the symptoms of both. She saw OP's wife as a plaything and a source of narcissistic supply to feed her ego, so she was only upset about the wife's death because she couldn't torture her anymore. OP should find a way to get her the death penalty and on the day of her execution tell her to say high to her boss when she gets back to where she came from.

I didn't have postpartum psychosis, but during my first pregnancy I had pregnancy-induced psychosis. It was no joke. I was convinced I had rabies and no one could talk me out of it. Dark time in my life. I wrote a goodbye love letter to my husband because I was convinced for months that I was about to die from it. Cried myself to sleep night after night. Seriously depressed. After my son was born it was like coming out of a fog. I can't imagine how bad it would have gotten if the people in my life fed into my delusions.

There's a special place in hell for her. Where she'll be raped nonstop!

@@SinisterScoundrel6562 Normally I would say a massive whoa to a comment like this. However, this is one of the very few times where the person it targets completely deserves it.

Yeah that’s sort of where my mind went too. I guess there’s not really a point to trying to mentally dissect the mind of someone evil like this but I can’t think if any other reason she’d go that far to break them up. Maybe there is no reason but “you’re not the only one who loved her” sure sounds like she has something for the wife

Jessie never loved the wife. She can't love anyone. Narcissists aren't capable of love. Jessie only saw OP's wife as a source of entertainment and ego boost and only pretended to be sad because she lost her narcissistic supply and didn't want to be revealed for the demon that she is. Jessie deserves nothing and no one and will die alone before suffering for eternity in the same pit of Hell she crawled out of.

@@thundermothstudio5446 She could be a narcissist, however her actions are also in-line with non-narcissist behavior.

@@thundermothstudio5446 I believe you're reffering to a seperate mental illness. Narcissists do have the capacity to feel love, real love, and they also have the capacity to get better. Complete and total apathy and murderous intentions are not symptoms of npd. Sorry for kind of nitpicking, but this has been a common misconception that can be harmful

@@thundermothstudio5446 y'all just start throwing diagnosis around, ridiculous

I agree. She should be in prison for manipulating someone who was mentally ill.

9th Circle Man

I can understand and not blame her for 1. choosing to stay with mom. She's 3 and probably doesn't understand it. She just choose the one that close to her. 2. The career path. Well, sometimes you change your mind. But the wedding part is the unforgiveable one, she also kept it secret until the very last minute.

Agreed! Sarah made that bed and now she has to lay in it!

@@ReigoVassal where it says she was 3? Also according to the story either ways, her dad seems closer to her, that's the deal of being a daddy's girl

@@ReigoVassal if she was gonna choose someone close then it should of been the dad!

Maybe she thought her parents would grow up, and let her be happy. She expected them to put their children first, not the other issue.

He needs to tell everyone in a way where the parents can't stop him

But realistically what would the restraining order be issued for. I don’t think you can get a restraining order because you don’t like someone. Can you?

@@spongebobsjellyfish Probably for "Child Desertion and Abandonment" or something, though it would be tough to prove as the other witness is literally dead. Well, not only is she dead, but she would have taken Jessie's side because she was not well.

@@spongebobsjellyfish OP can file for slander and liable as well...since SHE (Jessie) is the one accusing OP of cheating.

Wouldn’t work that way. A restraining order works both ways. You must avoid each other. If OP shows up to a place he KNOWS Jessie will be, Jessie can use that and get the restraining order nulled. Depending on the area they live if OP is the one who violates the order, he can be charged with a felony instead. This is to ensure one cannot abuse a restraining order to get the other party fired or removed from their own home.

If that is what she said word for word then I would agree. Not saying OP is lying just that the words may have been slightly different but carried the same meaning. I do agree though, with that sentence, it looked like Jessie wanted to get with OP's wife. Wish they could have cut jessie out sooner before tragedy struck.

@@dragonsteamworks6675 definitely, just giving the benefit of doubt (how unwarranted it may be) because words can already change meaning when paraphrased by someone else so aside from an audio recording of jessie saying it i would put an asterisk on the statement as potentially damning. the issue of languages makes it that i can't take that quote at face value regardless how much i'd want to, either way it's a completely f-up situation that that woman drove op's wife to suicide regardless of her intentions for the manipulations and lies, imho the woman's a murderer. (and probably some combination between a sociopath and a narcicist)

Yeah I had the exact same thought. At first I thought she was going after OP, but that convinced me otherwise. Either way, she deserves the ultimate punishment.

i was thinking this or she loved OP and wanted the wife out of the picture

That came to my mind as well when I read that statement.

Jessie is Satan in disguse..

They have a ro already filed but the wife ended her life as a result of ppd

I say Jessie needs to be arrested, what she did was really wrong. Does this even count as murder? There is a link that can connect Jessie to Op's wife's passing.

@@celestiafanforever unfortunately Jessie can't be held criminally accountable for her death as she didn't personally kill her. However, OP can take Jessie to civil court and sue her for everything she's got and then some.

I think Jessie was in love with OP's wife...and out of jealousy and rage ruined OP's life, and it seems like she's trying to do it through the Inlaws now.

She clearly wanted the wife all to herself. She wanted to be the literal only person in the world to the wife. But yeah, the in-laws were always going to pick Jessie, the childhood friend they knew as a literal infant, over some man they suspect of cheating and driving their daughter to suicide.

It could also just be typical feminist projection. The people that accuse others of cheating and being abusive are usually abusive cheaters. Their narcissism knows no bounds when it comes to blaming the world for their troubles and never, even for a second, does the concept that they manufactured their own misery even enter their mind. They lie to themselves, truly believing in the fiction they spin in their head and expecting everyone else to back them up as innocent victims. See also: Amber Heard

I feel like Jessie should be charged with man slaughter. Thought I'm not sure if that's possible. Still one of these days Jessie's in for hell weather literal or metaphorical remains to be seen.

@@agentzapdos4960 I heard one theory that Jesse may have actually been a lesbian, and all these accusations were her attempt to get them to divorce, so Jesse could be with the wife. This mainly comes from the line: “your not the only one who loved your wife.” Which insinuates that Jessie loved her in a similar way to the OP, however, the line could have been said differently in the post than what actually happened, but this is most likely what Jessie had said to the OP. If this theory is correct, she probably wanted to look like the one who “saved the poor naive wife from her terrible cheating husband,” which is even more of an asshole move than if their relationship was just platonic.

@@allosaurusanimations either way she should be locked up Edit: if you loved somebody in s romantic way albeit a crush or a relationship gaslighting and enabling their depression to give them a fast line to suicidal tendencies and then the act it self

Jessie was a demon in a human form. She brought Hell to this family. So rotting in Hell, wouldnt be punishment enough for her...

yeah i came to that conclusion too. man, fuck jessie. poor OP and poor OP's wife

OH MY GOD, YOU ARE RIGHT

The wife was probably not a victim in this case then; if she planned on killing herself and the daughter, her mental problems were WAY worse than OP thought.

@@YokaiDisorder She is still a victim, no one get's suicidal to this point for funsies, it's an added layer, for sure, but it doesnt change that she needed serious mental health intervention, they were too leniant, she showed in one fell swoop that she was a danger to her kid her husband when she left the kid alone and broke his nose. They loved her, wanted the best for her, sometimes, that blinds you for the severity of the issue.

Car crash suicides are almost always spur-of-the-moment rather than planned. It's a moment of complete overwhelm without any time to think things through because you're literally sitting inside a weapon moving faster than your brain can. It probably would have happened anyway, but I don't think the PLAN was to take the daughter with her. At least, I really hope not. Most isn't all, and it's certainly possible. PPD seriously messes you up even when you're not living with a straight-up moustache-twirling villain.

I wish that the conversation was recorded because the only place Jessie belongs is behind bars

I very much disagree you maybe be a daddy girl but you didn't go through her situation kids are easy to manipulate and don't understand things her mom and cheater husband manipulated her into coming with them and becoming a lawyer

@@SweATZ87 I personally wonder what the mom told ops sister in story one.

@@SweATZ87 manipulation can only go so far, especially in adulthood. It went from being manipulated to being the manipulator, which is where I expect that guilt came from. Like the brother said, she expected him to just roll over about the wedding plans knowing full well what the hell she was asking. However if it is just pure manipulation, she does live with two lawyers she herself will make a shitty lawyer being swayed so easily for so long

@@SweATZ87 you have no clue whether or not I've been in a similar situation so don't assume. Sarah was well aware of the affair as an adult even as a kid (especially after being told why their parents are getting divorced but im guessing she wasnt paying attention) Yes, she was manipulated but she had plenty of chances to talk to her dad considering he still went to every event she had after the divorce, made sure he was present in her life, to talk to OP and sort out the bullshit but she didn't. She just didn't care until he finally died. He deserved better then what he got.

Yes, I can. Being hurt once, with the other person spending YEARS trying to make amends, didn't give him the right to both hurt her emotionally for years and years, deny his grandkids the chance to ever meet him out of sheer self centered SPITE, and then going as far as to make sure to be cruel to his daughter even after his death.

​@@WeirdWonderful, she did not have the right to hurt him _"once"._ And just because she later regretted breaking his heart does not mean she's entitled to be forgiven. However, him having his heart broken gives him _every_ right to make sure it doesn't happen again. There are some words and actions that *cannot* be undone... _even_ if it later turns out that it would've been in your best interest to not have said or done those specific things. She clearly showed him who was more important to her, him or her new stepdad, and then you blame _him_ for seeing it?

@ So we are just okay with his keeping his own daughter miserable for years, even going so far as to single her out after his death, and never allowing his own grandchildren to meet him ? Those are all fine in your book ? Also not sure what good denying his daughter to see him on his death bed could possibly do, or how he'd have time to even HAVE his heart "broken again" on account of the whole dying thing. Vs. horifically scarring his surviving daughter for years if not for life. The man was just selfish and evil to do this.

@@WeirdWonderful, let's see if you understand it better if we put _you_ in the position of being betrayed and having your heart shattered: What if you got into a huge fight with your best friend, and in a fit of rage, your best friend killed one of your kids (if you have children, otherwise pets, other close relatives)... *but* as soon as your child stopped breathing, your friend realized the severity of the situation and immediately, for years to come, started trying to make up for it. How long would it take _you_ to forgive that friend? Or would you say that is something that can never _be_ forgiven? Would you forgive your friend on your deathbed, it's not like you'd have time to get into another huge fight and you'd lose another child? When would _you_ say that your friend had suffered enough for that _"one-time mistake"?_ What about your friends children? Surely _they_ would have the right to your company? Or would you say screw that, the damage caused can never _be_ repaired? That debt can _never be_ settled?

She didn't hurt him once, she hurt him three times, each at an important moment of her life. She chose his cheating wife and the ex-best friend of his she cheated on him with over him, She chose to not be a doctor ever though for years she had told him she wanted to follow in his footsteps to instead be a lawyer like her cheating wife and her lover, And finally she chose to have both him and the man his wife cheated on him with walk him down the isle at the same time, he loved weddings and had been waiting for hers for years, and still she chooses the man his wife cheated on him with. He cut her out when he couldn't take anymore heartbreak. She only regretted her choice when she couldn't talk to him for years, but the damage had been done a long time ago, he knew where he stood with her despite the years he spent raising her and being the best father he could be to her, every choice she made was another twist of the knife. Even if unintentional she kept hurting him. Either she was oblivious to the pain she was causing him or she didn't care.

S1; maybe she mistakenly believed her father would put his old grudge out of his mind for the sake of his daughter getting to spend her wedding with both her Dads. She had to choose between her parents when she was just a 9/10 year old little girl, and he held her choice against her for the rest of his life. Is it any wonder she ended up closer to her stepfather? He probably actually treated her well.

@@themartinebunny it was a really stupid thing to do because she was manipulated and just by reading the story you could tell what kind of shitty people her mother and stepfather are

@@themartinebunny it's never said anywhere that he held the decision she made as a child against her for the rest of her life. the OP, Sarah's twin, stated that the first time the father had gotten mad at Sarah for such a decision was on the night of the wedding when she sprung- OUT OF NOWHERE- that they'd both be walking her down the aisle. Plus, OP specifically said that he spoiled Sarah MORE after she decided to live with them, and that OP only knew something was wrong with the dad because he overheard him crying himself to sleep. Not once does it say he emotionally manipulated Sarah by forcing her to choose between them anywhere before the wedding- in which case, it was more manipulation on Sarah's part to give her father the impression that he'd be walking her down the aisle, only to last minute tell him that it was both him and John in order to trap him in the decision. Reminder that at that point, they would've done wedding rehearsals with just the dad walking her down the aisle, or else he would've figured out way earlier on that John AND him would be going down the aisle together. That's just a scummy thing to do full stop. The dad had every right to cut her out of his life after that. Especially since it was clear Sarah knew about the things John had done to him and still chose to force her father into a corner on a decision that he was clearly very passionate about. Their dad had every right to cut her out after she had broken his heart. Just like how you do with friends who hurt you, or partners who hurt you. Why should he be expected to treat Sarah the same when she decided to revive trauma for him? I feel like the only reason people are defending Sarah is because of the misconception that cheaters can still be good parents (this is true, my dad used to be a cheater when he was younger) and thus, should be given a pass when it comes to taking care of children. But no. John is more than a cheater, he's a backstabber to his CHILDHOOD FRIEND and he destroyed and traumatised OP's father. OP's father should not be expected to compromise for someone like that. If someone traumatised you by destroying your family and crumbling your mental state by a horrible betrayal- no matter what that betrayal was, if it was stealing a family heirloom, cheating, spreading rumours behind your back, hurting someone you care about- you should not be expected to keep the people connected to that person in your life. Sarah and her mother were both connected to John. He cut the mother out of his life. And that argument was the push he needed to cut Sarah out of his life so that he could finally move on. As he should. We would say the same thing about someone cutting out a sibling who was connected to abusive parents, or a friend who was connected to a scumbag ex-boyfriend. "bUt FaMiLy" is not an argument here.

@@Leader7353 Hi!

@@Ammiteur9 hi 🙂

Remember the saying misery loves company I believe that would be motive number one

Well narcissists don’t really care about consequences or who they hurt in the processes of the evil things they do.

some people get so trapped in there delusions that they cant see strait

Some people are just plain evil, Jessie probably has some type of personality disorder.

If she's not a genuine sociopath that takes joy from seeing how she can manipulate others, then my guess would honestly be just plain boredom. It's mentioned that she's a SAHM, so she probably has nothing better to do than sniff out drama or create it if there's none there. She's also probably a narcisist who thinks she can never be wrong; so if she thinks that OP was cheating of COURSE he must be cheating because there's no way she could be mistaken, and proving that she's right becomes way more important than the wife's mental health. The best that can be said is that if this is the case then at least it wasnt her intention to drive the wife to suicide, but it only downgrades her crime from murder to manslaughter.

this. my brother died in 2018 and my mom (who abandoned him... as she did with all her other children) showed up at his funeral. made a whole sob story about how much she loved him and spent time with him (unlikely). then, she started talking about her fucking dog?? the people who actually knew him were livid, there was a huge fight. just sucks even worse that she tried to convince me to go with her, undoubtedly so she could parade me around as proof of what a good mother she was, "look, I do care for my kids. I have one with me right now... as if the last 6 years where I disappeared to 'find myself' don't exist. look at how good she turned out. yeah, it was all me even though I didn't raise her, I locked her and her siblings in their rooms for their entire childhoods to the point. we get along so well, and my poor son who instead of spending time with, I ditched for getting drunk at parties, was one of my prized possessions. anyway, my dog died recently" I wouldn't want her at my funeral. Such a horrible thing that those traitors were allowed at the dad's funeral, as well.

This. ☝🏻

Honestly I think it depends on the situation. I was very much a daddy's kid, and while I preferred my bio dad because i lived with him, I would also jump at the opportunity to spend time with my sister's dad. Addiction took sister's dad, and illness took bio dad's mind. I wish them both dead now. But, when they were my dads, when they were okay, I don't think I could've chose one over the other. They're the reason I took the courses I did, because I genuinely loved what bio dad did, and I wanted to make games sister's dad and I could play together. Bio dad is the reason I got into genetics and reptile breeding, since he used to breed racing pigeons. I'm the person I am today because of them. If I had gotten married, and if they had continued to be the men who raised me, I think I would've done what Sarah had done and asked them both to walk me down the aisle.

As someone who used to be a Daddy's girl until he became an aggressive drinker... having a step dad who would care for my mom and sisters would sound way better than my dad

I think she chose her mom. She was the only girl so the mom likely manipulated Sara. Still not excusable after becoming an adult.

I would choose my stepdad over my dad any day of the week as my dad walked out on me and my sister and does not respect any of my opinions (he went down a massive right wing rabbit hole). While my stepdad and I don't agree on everything we can at least talk about it like civilized adults and he honestly wants the best for me.

I wonder if she was possibly manipulated by her mom and step father. If so, it makes the story even more heartbreaking...

@@eyesofwater123 she was 8 so step-dad simply became a second father to her.

Manipulation by the mom

My guess is, since she was so little, Mommy Dearest probably told her the divorce was the dad’s fault

I agree. I know people are kind of dumping on her, but I feel like we’ve got to give her a little bit of grace because she must’ve been in a very difficult position, especially when she was so young.

Dont ruin the good name of Jesse Pinkman,this bitch is called Jessie

Pretty sure what Jessie did also still counts as murder. So a restraining order probably isn't enough. Which of course, could work both ways, and since Jessie has absolutely no morals, what stops her from pinning her actions on OP for that as it's clear she obviously hates OP. Well that all depends on if the driving into a tree was suicide or because she was too mentally spent she wasn't paying attention.

The problem is on what grounds? Like i agree with you 1000% but sadly you can't sue someone for possibly influencing someone's death. The courts would immediately rule this "suicide" and Jesse would have no consequences. You can't even get her for assisted suicide because you would have to proven she specifically egged her to kill her self. If OP's wife's phone survived the rash maybe there be something but we don't know that. This story just makes me sad and angry all at the same time, and I hope Mr. Luci has a special spot in the underworld saved just for her!

@@azmcpe4406 well there is slander but I don’t know if it could apply or some kind of mental abuse?

@@hellahothippo4861I'm no legal expert; so my word is certainly not law. However Slander (to my understanding) is simply damage to one's character/imagine in the eyes of other people. So Slander wouldn't apply here. Jesse didn't damage OP's imagine to other people. Her saying OP cheated didn't hurt anyone outside of Op and his wife. Mental abuse may be possible, however it may be hard because Op's wife would've explicitly needed supervision or care. Because then you can argue Jesse neglected her obligation to care for her

Mark Narrations. Last Saturday I think

Facts

I hope she suffers

People said that there's Sarah's perspective post. But it never found. SHe said that she just being manipulated. And people still doesn't really sympathize.

While she has to live with her guilt and I agree, I don't think ANYONE really deserves to be hospitalised for it. Yes, she made a really hurtful choice and she needs to come to terms with the consequences but she also deserves to do it without basically self-destructing. (edited for typos)

She spent years trying to make amends, it's not just "she thought he'd forgive her on his own". Her dad was being selfish and cared more about his wounded ego than how he was psychologically hurting his own daughter and the grand children he selfishly chose to never meet, not caring about the emotional dammage he did right down to even AFTER his death. All because of a single mistake Sarah here did, and spent years trying to make up for. No, the father's treatment of her and his unseen grandkids was honestly terrible, and the fact she hurt him once and tried real hard to make up for it for years, didn't give him the right to hurt her continously to the point he even went out of his way to be cruel and spiteful to her AFTER his death.

Yeah your wrong. He didn't have to forgive her for what she did. She had the freedom to choose who walked her down the isle, it wasn't something he was okay with so he exercised his freedom to not show up. Your painting him as the bad guy when daughter did nothing but hurt him. Sometimes people just get pushed too far and they break. Don't go calling him selfish not wanting to reconcile. She got to choose who walked her down the isle and he got to choose who saw him before he died. She's an asshole who can't accept the consequences of her actions.

​@@wickedblade4751​​ forreal. Sarah chose her own fate. She turned her back on her father and shoved the most painful moment of his life back in his face. Letting the man who cheated with your mother on your father walk you down the aisle is a different kind of stupid/evil.

​​@@WeirdWonderfulLOL. Sarah made her bed,Now she has to lay in it. Some mistakes just can't be forgiven. No one is entitled to forgiveness. The father is allowed to determine whether what Sarah did is forgivable or not. Sarah has no right to complain and be upset that she decided that a cheater was her father. She stopped being his daughter when she chose to invite another man to walk her down the aisle with him. Sarah gets no sympathy from me

​@@WeirdWonderfulFun how you miss that she slept with his 'best friend' who was like a brother to him. So was he supposed to forgive such betrayal because 'she will feel bad'? Sorry but no. 'Trying to make ammends' won't stop the fact she is sleeping with his worst enemy. If she has any dignity, she will understand and accept that the moment you support an enemy of your family member, you are also their enemy as well. He wasn't selfish. He was *Fair.* Any claims of contrary are a tentative to excuse and justify bad actions. She would never think that her hubby was in the wrong. Just think about that.

I'd for sure explain to them what Jessie has done. From constantly convincing his wife that he was cheating to taking the wife and leaving the baby alone for hours. If they still want Jessie to talk or if they don't believe OP/play down what Jessie has done, then give them the ultimatum

I would also advise, and this will be incredibly difficult, gathering all of the evidence, especially evidence in regards to Jessie. This way when the grandparents file for grandparents' rights, the father will have better leverage. It is an incredibly tragic situation, but you know, you just know if a court order doesn't get put in place, Jessie will keep worming her way in their lives, and devise some way to take the baby and do god knows what with her.

I don't think the in-laws realize what kind of person Jessie is. Jessie most likely spent years gaining their trust. I seriously doubt that they would intentionally let someone who is responsible for their own daughter's death speak at her funeral. They could also be victims of Jessie's manipulation, but they don't see it. And they might not listen to anyone who tries to tell them. OP would be better off going no contact with them.

Honestly I wouldn’t have blamed him but wouldn’t have been the time or the place to do that

@@terrencenivens8620 Why not? Jessie deserved being exposed and hopefully shunned, for what she did. He should also point out the fact that the in-laws refused to honor HIS wishes to exclude Jessie from the funeral.

@@avashnea This was his wife's funeral. Pointing fingers doing someone's funeral specially blaming a person's death for the person alive is not exactly great.

@@terrencenivens8620 The wife is dead. Funerals are the best time to be honest. Jessie is definitely gonna go up there and slander him anyways may as well beat her to it. Especially since the in-laws are defending her. Burn that bridge and save his image with the rest of the people there IMO

@@avashnea yes she should be exposed but not at a funeral where others including her parents are grieving. I don’t agree with them letting her speak but I understand where they’re coming from.

You're too kind. I hope she suffers.

Not really she seems manipulated stop dogpilling her it's an asshole move

@@SweATZ87 you desire to remove accountability for this chick is astounding. Stop damage controlling for her, she won't learn that way. That's how you get women who've lived as long as her and still make the terrible choices she did.

Best is to get a restraining order, then find out what lies she has told the late wife. If the lies are disproven it'll come to light she led to the wife's suicide and in a way killed her. She tore a family apart and now she's trying hard to paint OP as the evil one. It still amazes me people like this exist in the world today. PS: if there's evidence she lied about what has happened, she CAN face a Level 3 felony which carries a sentence of 3-16 years in prison. If she's proven, she's also a shit mother as she inadvertently left her kids without a mom for x amount of years if she's convicted.

Agreed. That witch is dangerous and the in-laws are nut to still trust her. I hope it worth if it mean losing a chance to see their granddaughter growing up.

@@alinasanchez278 agreed. If they want to believe the tormentor "best friend" over a string of lies she made that led to their daughter's suicide, don't be surprised if that strains the relationship so badly they won't ever get to see their granddaughter. They're enabling the manipulative friend to ruin their son in law's life over a fabrication of facts. It's sad that the wife believes her lying friend over her husband after so much evidence proving his innocence. But we can't fault her cause the friend kept fanning those worries and played with the PPD too much. I hope OP and his daughter are doing ok and when the time is right, she understands why her mom was gone for all these years. And I sincerely do hope that OP is considering looking into long term restraining orders on that witch and to possibly look at a criminal investigation on the friend.

The wife is not much better than the friend. The friend fueled the fire, the wife still assaulted her husband and tried to kill her own daughter just to hurt him for something he never did.

@@Tsuki_Itsubi look up post partuem depression my dude the mind is a crazy thing

It may be an older video but you're not the only one rewatching. The first story hits me hard because I was abandoned by my bio father after he cheated on my mom. My mom married my step dad and he was my hero, my world. I was such a big daddies girl it was ridiculous. My daddy passed away when I was 14 and my heart broke. I had images of him walking be down the aisle of helping me when my kids frustrate me, everything. I can't imagine how someone could turn their back on parents like that. The dad in the story sounds like how my daddy was, kind, caring, loving, and whole heartedly devoted. I can't believe a daddies girl would turn her back like that.

I lost my Grandma Dot to pancreatic cancer in 2013. She was my hero.

@@Brigand231 I’m really sorry you had to deal with that. 😢

I will agree with the RO here. That is enough behavior to warrant such an action.

Jessie sounds like she was wanting to go friend diving. Jessie also sounds like someone who was trained to be this way; sad to say but this is what happens when disney villians are allowed to breed lol.

wdym by "and the daughter" the daughter was a baby that damn near fell victim to a murder suicide!

@@fangspecter2232 I think he meant have one against Jessie for him and his daughter

@@CSKaras then they worded it really wrong cause i'm not getting that....like at all from that comment....

Wow. I have no other words but, you have my sympathy. My heart goes out to you.

Why did they fight over you. Did they never go to court to figure out who gets custody

Your dad is extremely shitty man cheating on your mom with his sil for real? He deserved to be miserable hope your mom found a better man

​@@Mokuteke I'm not from US but in my country the custody battles can take litterally years

I'd personally track down "SIL" and mess up her life.

When does it stop though? If they just give the cold shoulder and refuse to get help from therapy, it won't get better. Should OP have just lived with it, or would there have been a better option?

Murder-suicide. One hundred percent. She had the baby for the majority of the time she was depressed and she didn't feel better, so giving her the baby in that moment very likely wouldn't have made her feel better, either. It sounds very much like her plan was to drive into the tree with baby in the car.

Honestly her parents killed her by being in denial about her mental state. She should not have been left alone period, let alone be driving. Anyone totally shutting down like she did after breaking OPs nose is a suicide risk. Not to mention her full on psychotic delusions. No suicide happens without signs.

My first thought is that she had already decided to commit suicide and wanted to kill herself and their daughter together. It's definitely not unheard of for a parent to kill their child when committing suicide.

The baby would be dead. It's sadly not unusual for women with severe PPD to kill their babies and themselves.

yep, that's right

People in the comments of the Reddit post have said that’s what PPD makes you want to do. Like, depression has the voice talking you into killing your self, but with PPD, the voice is telling you to end it and take the baby with you. Jesse forced her to listen to that voice and block out her husband and any rationality.

At the same time. We truly don't know what she was gonna do, maybe instead she took her own life because she couldn't have the child and thought of herself as a failure. But at the same time I see that being a possibility. I have no idea why Jessie is in the public, that woman should be in prison.

Typical reddit post

omg your comment made me giggle.

And the title is a click bait, no ones friend murdered anyones wife in these stories

@@kheldaur2107 it was more like the wife’s friend killed the wife but it’s close enough honestly

@@kheldaur2107 Well. You are technically right. VIA it wasn't direct stabbing or poisoning... Also the title is wrong. Since it makes it out to be the 2nd story's Poster, not the wife's friend. But, by all logic, "Jessie" caused her (the wife) to die. And did more than such... Endangered a child...

No, it was her dad chosing to deny his grandkids even meeting him or even his daughter to say goodbye on his deathbed, despite years of attempts on her side to make ammends. It's not like she came back after neglecting him for years, she tried and he chose to be stubborn, cruel and ultimately self centered. No one should be so petty over wounded pride they purposefully shut out their own grandchildren out of their life, or worse, deny their own child to say goodbye before they pass. It was just a very cruel and selfish way for him to continually punish her and her children for a single mistake she spent years trying to make up for, but which he was too prideful to move past. That's NOT na enviable character trait.

​@@WeirdWonderfulsometimes family is just family in name only. It's not about the single decision. That decision was the final straw. Years of emotional pain built over time. And she finally gets to feel what he felt all of that time. Her children and her will be financially set, he made sure of that. But she is NOT entitled to his emotions after all of that pain.

@@darkriku12 "Years of emotional pain built over time. " Yes, they did, for her. And are his grandchildren "entitled" to never be allowed to meet their grandfather, to be literally punished for something they never did and which happened before they were born ? And is she "entitled" to being the only one not allowed to see him on his literal death bed ? Do you not see the cruel, vindictive pettiness and self centered arrogance of this all ?

She has audacity for sure.

You’d think the in laws would be upset about her helping their daughter abandon the baby at home at the very least.

Narcissists love being in the spotlight. Jessie wants to soak up and revel in every second of attention that she can before she moves on to the next victim of her "friendship."

He wouldn’t have won. Narcissist like Jessie are master manipulators

He tried but they didn't want to hear and lose jessie too. Which is bad behavior in my book. They are turning a blind eye to the one who actually hurt their daughter the most

@@dardarbinks3391 I hope they at least don't believe that OP cheated on his wife. The last thing he needs in this situation is to get CPS involved and be under threat of having his daughter taken away from him.

god, that poor woman

I'm not a law enforcement officer I don't know anything about punishment and crime but it sounds like this friend talked her into killing herself. She definitely drove her into it. I bet you with a little bit of digging you can see the trail of her leading her to this decision. It wouldn't be the first time a court case ended in conviction for someone trying to convince someone to kill themselves that did it. I can't remember the case but there was that girl who talked that young boy into killing himself. That's what this woman did. it proves how manipulative she is that she still has that woman's parents wrapped around her little finger. I can tell you that that woman would not set foot in that funeral home. I would make sure the funeral home knew that. As far as the law and the funeral home will be concerned that woman's next to Kin is her husband. The parents get no say on who attends the funeral. Most the time this doesn't come up because it's not an issue for most families. But it is here I would have a restraining order in place for me my daughter and I would have a lawyer pushing to get this case opened. If their parents want to stay friends with Jesse they can have at it but she wouldn't be part of my life or my child's life. I would tell them they could have Jesse or they could have their grandchild they can't have both. I wouldn't trust them alone with that child and not as someone supervising the visit for a long long time