Last story: Ah, yes. The classically handsome one who has become lazy, relying only on their looks and charms, vs the chubby one who actually had to develop a personality.
Story 2: If it had to take *breaking up* with Alexa for her to *finally* apologize for her terrible comments, you can tell how shameless she felt. She actually thought nobody would be mad at her for her comments towards Rachel. Rachel has a saint's patience, I'm jealous
I agree. When OP said "this was no longer the woman i've fallen in love with" i was thinking more like "She was always like that. She just got worse at hiding it from you over time mate".
@@BadassHater1 THIS. As someone with a super toxic ex, I realized she hadn't changed, she was just more at ease with letting the mask slip around me. Sounds like a very similar situation here
I don't think she thought nobody would be mad. I think she thought she'd get away with it because she has in the past. She pushed OP and Rachel's limits and got the consequences of her own actions.
Its really gross and what bugs me the most is, it doesn't seem to occur to Alexa that its only luck of the draw she was born to the man her mother liked enough to justify abandoning a kid over. Would have been her, and just like with Rachel, completely out of her control.
That ex husband in the first story is definitely a mommy’s boy. But I couldn’t imagine he and his mom would take the daughter. I was so afraid for the poor kid. She’s literally a toddler, I’m glad OP has full custody of her daughter.
OP’s ex’s brother was a much man than this sorry excuse of a man! OP’s ex is a spineless loser, and his witch of a mother is a sociopath. Glad OP left that guy. He lost his chance!
And how in denial must someone be to believe their mother is right over medical professionals. Especially regarding essential oils. This guy is hopeless and helpless. May he never procreate again.
And common knowledge. That stuff isn't supposed to be ingested, half, if not most, can't even be used without diluting or using a diffuser. Add skin irritation if not properly prepped for bath water
That's why it's called "the fog." Her ex was so far in the fog he probably couldn't see his own ass. It's a common thing with awful MILs, he's essentially brainwashed and can't think like a normal person. He thinks this is normal, he'll always choose his mom and do whatever she says until someone sweeps the fog away. It doesn't justify his actions, but it does mean that he's a victim of decades of psychological abuse.
“She did what she thought was best” What, by endangering a child’s health? By making up horrible malicious lies about the mother? By claiming OPs brother MOLESTED her child? By accusing OP of being an addict and leaving drugs around the home? By being a horrible racist? Pray tell, how are any of those “best” for the child?
I think OP should have a restraining order to keep g-ma away from the kid! Just for that One Instance she shouldn't be around her alone ever!😢 I almost said that about her racist butt going to Mexico but kept listening as I wrote this! I usually do make my comments too soon😂 Even without the plan to move, he should be charged with Parental Alienation! He's trying to brainwash that kid against her mom!😢
okay, like, you can say that but then you gotta say "and this is why she will never be left alone or put in charge of our daughter or any other kids again" you can be stupid and still be a good person, but like, you don't let someone stupid make important decisions.
Story 2: If I were Rachel, I would tell Alexandra that despite everything that’s happened to me in my life, I feel sorry for her because of how miserable she must be with her own that she has to be so petty and cruel. Story 3: “How do you lose a woman?” “You forget to cherish her”
Story 1: Gotta love how the BIL in the story made OP's ex realise that his mother was racist and he STILL ended up being a giant mummy's boy. Wow. Story 2: WTH is Alexa's problem? It's not like Rachel came back into their lives and stole their mother's attention or something. George seems like the only decent person in that family. Story 3: I love a wholesome story! I hope OP and Sam have a great relationship. It goes to show that ACTUAL charm and respect can go a long way (looking at you, nice guys).
And the further shock from him when OP gives him divorce paperwork. You let your wife and child get abused by your mom and are shocked that she wants out? Dude needs help. Like away from his mom, limited contact with outside world, and reflect on how to not be a feminine hygiene product
Story 1: It shouldn't have took him watching his brother be a real man for him to figure out what he did wrong, after you told him what he was doing wrong for years. The mother is racist and made several unforgivable accusation towards you yet your ex still feels like the biggest douchebag in the story. If he doesn't go to prison for attempted kidnapping of a minor, there's no way is he getting full custody ever again, especially when the part about meal making several fake accusations to take away custody comes up, along with all the evidence and how he kept harassing you.
Which I hope she does. She has the mindset that the father needs to be in his daughter’s life but he should definitely work on his mental stability before even being responsible for a plant.
First story, it always amazes me in stories like this that people somehow think the ex or estranged partner won't notice stuff like attempting to renew a kids passport or other like massive red flags
Ironically if the ex had just rung up and been 'oh hey, I just noticed Kay's passport expired. Mummy dearest and I were planning a vacation soon and didn't want her to feel left out.' He would've had a better chance of getting away with it.
But the scary part is that if the child had not let it slip that daddy was planning to move her then OP would not have known to look for those red flags.
Story 1: Honestly, after that last update, just don't let the ex see her ever again. He already proved that he can't be trusted to be alone with OP's daughter, so he can't be trusted to be around her period. Who's to say he could take any chance he gets to run off with OP's daughter and never be seen again?
On the last story, I can't wait for the update in a year or two about how they are getting married and that if not for the selfish impulse of his friend, OP might never have hit it off with his other half. It would be a hell of a, how I met your mother story if they have kids
Double date story: you know I only see this kinda thing in anime with the whole mixer date thing. The popular/hot guy will bring a “loser” to prop themselves up then get mad when the “ugly duckling” actually turns out to be the more charming one
The last story: I had a feeling that Joel was thinking that he would look better if OP was there in his usual manner and both Jean and Sam would fall for him. Ironically it turns out that OP is a charmer who can actually offer a pretty damn good time to his date (no dirty things in mind of course) while the only thing Joel can do is pout in the corner despite having all the chances to hit it off with Jean in the same charming way. But no - he prefered to pout. Now that's what i call a spectacular backfire.
@@lorilancaster5917 Yeah, basically Joel thought he was hot shit, only to realize he was actually quite boring. From the sounds of it, he only wanted to get into Jean's pants, while OP wanted to show his date a great time (in a non-sexual way.) At least now he seems to realize you should care more about your date, than getting into their pants.
Yeah, poor stupid Joel, lol. I can't be too critical, we guys all make this mistake when we're young, but the "Cool Guy" thing... women don't go for that. They love it in small doses, but if you try that hard to be cool all the time, it seems forced, and they don't feel like they're getting to know you on any deeper level. It's like an act and you're stuck in character. Either that or they think you have a very shallow, 1-dimensional personality, and that is boring. It's OK to be a bit corny every once in a while because when you are, it's genuine and you're making an effort. They find our awkward moments endearing because it's humanizing and relatable. And women just light up when we start geeking out over something weird because it's proof that you're passionate about something. It's even OK to be just a little bit of a jackass sometimes (in moderation, of course, not as a primary trait of your personality, lol). They want to know the person, not the false persona. And if you let your guard down around them enough to show some of those awkward traits, they feel like they can be less guarded as well. I wish I had learned this when I was younger, lol. Being cool requires you to not care about how other may judge you, and to just be yourself without fear. Thus trying to be cool always fails, like swimming against the undertow... the harder you try, the further from you drift from that goal. Joel was trying too hard, but life is so much easier when you learn you don't need to do any of that. Being cool is not the opposite of being a dork, it's about owning your dorkishness, unrepentantly and with grace.
@@Arkryal It's funny because it's an oxymoron. They try so hard to act cool like they don't care about anything, but that in itself is caring about something, so it's immediately not cool. It's only by not caring about being cool that you actually become cool.
I am attracted to guys like OP and not Joel. It doesn't matter to me if someone is cubby and balding, just as long as they are a wonderful person and charming. OP sounds like he has so much more to offer than Joel. It sounds like Joel is very superficial and totally full of himself. Even if I'm not physically attracted to someone in the beginning, I would be after getting to know and in a relationship with them. This was the case with my ex-fiance and I was with him for 7 years.
Story 1: I wouldn’t just be pressing for sole custody but asking for a full blown restraining order against him. He was going to kidnap his own daughter explicitly to spite his ex wife for dumping him. He’s showing erratic, dangerous behaviors that need more addressing than just supervised visitation because if he’s escalated to kidnapping after a poisoning incident, then who’s to say he won’t escalate to murder?
Story 1: I hope the ex loses custody, glad op’s daughter is safe Story 2: yay for Rachel, boo for Alexa. What a nasty piece of work Alexa is Story 3: yay so wholesome we need more wholesome stories. I’m glad op and Sam finally decided to be dating
I knew a lady just like Alexa. Only she wasn't in her twenties, but in her forties and still behaved like an overgrown middle school mean girl who never mentally or emotionally matured past the age of 11. Let's call her Sally. Like Alexa, Sally had no respect for boundaries, zero regard for the word no being a complete sentence, nothing resembling a sense of empathy or accountability. Only when she was backed up against a wall, did she let the words like "I'm sorry” fall out of her mouth but she never actually meant them. The classic non-apology was as good as it got. No changed behavior whatsoever. You get the idea. Sally showed me her true self, that she didn't have a single redeeming quality about her or a shred of humanity in her dark soul, the day my father died from stage-four lung cancer. When she tried to turn my father's death into one of her spotlight moments and talk about herself, I ripped her to shreds. She was astounded. Being the coward that she is and the fact that she was one time zone and 600 miles away from me, she had the nerve to say and I quote verbatim: "Well, you and your dad never got along anyway.” I ended the call after calling her a bitch and apparently she whined to anyone who would listen, including her husband who was completely appalled at her behavior. She was shamed into apologizing to me, but I didn't read any of her messages or listen to her voicemails or any of her texts. When she realized that I wasn't going to take the bait, I got a wall of text, grammatically incorrect, typo-filled ranty e-mail blaming me for her husband and her having a huge fight. I didn't respond for a couple days and I knew it drove her nuts. After all, depriving a narcissist of attention is like withholding drugs from a junkie when they need a fix. I eventually responded and told her to back off or I would tell her husband about all of her affairs. It turned out she was, in fact, cheating or had at least tried to. She left me alone after that.
Story 1: there was a woman recently who’s ex husband and ex MiL kidnapped her two daughters and took them to South American for FOUR YEARS. The police found them living in an RV in the middle of nowhere in Costa Rica, and the daughters thought their mom had killed herself and wasn’t looking for them anymore. The husband only got like five years in prison for it and when he got out, he had his brother shoot the mom to death in a courthouse.
@@_Fizel_and I think it was actually the ex husband’s dad who murdered his ex wife in the courthouse, his wife (ex husband’s mom) even worked to slander the mom after her death - she was obsessed with grandparent’s rights all along.
Story 1: And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when Mama’s boys don’t let go of mommy’s hand. Op i’m glad this has a happy ending, i also hope you stay in contact with former BIL, he sounds great and the only sane member of his family.
Story 2: Rachel's awesome, your ex is a b*tch. And hate that I won't get to see the look on her face when she tried to turn the entire family on you and Rachel only for the breakup only to get the worst reality check in her life.
Yeah, but there's a gradient to it. Sure, if you love your spouse but don't really click with a parent in law, maybe they make some snide comments here and there, it's tolerable. The issues really start with how the spouse reacts to it. I wouldn't demand no contact, unless it's crazy issues like the abduction story, but a clear positioning against toxic behavior, and limiting contact as a consequence of continuing would be a minimum for me to stay with that person.
But there are also amazing moms like mine who directly told me that "whatever happens in my life she trusts me to prioritize and only spend my time on her when I have the energy and time. She will be fine and know that I love her no matter what."
Not always. My wifes family and I don't get along at all so we just keep a distance and my wife supports my decision. She agrees with me but only keeps talking to some family because if a few cousins and her mother and our daughter. Our daughter is co fused as to why I don't go around them but she's too young to understand.
You may have married your Ex-husband, but he was already married to his mom long before you. At that point, you’re just a broodmare/maid/nanny/bedwarmer for him and his mommy dearest. He may have opened his eyes, but too little too late.
Double date: Your friend brought you because you're "the ugly friend" to make him look better. At least buddy boy got a grip on himself. Only logical reason. Good on OP for going dapper and showing the girl a good time even though he thought he was just a support guy.
I didn’t get nice guy vibes from op. I got guy who was introverted. “Nice guy” usually think they are god’s gift (I’ve read/watched far to many nice guy and neckbeard stories)
How are there so many HORRIFIC MIL'S?? I have never had any issue or say a damn thing to my 3 kids partners, it's none of my business.. My MIL is awesome and amazing and I absolutely adore her! My husband loves my mom too!
That last story … the “loser” gets the girl!! Except for the balding part, I’m kinda like OP as well so I couldn’t help but smile when I got to the update and hear that he and Sam are now dating. The nerds shall inherit the earth lol
Story 2 nta I heard this one as well. That was no joke. She just wanted to hurt her as much as possible by saying the meanest thing she could think of. She was being a b*tch.
The best part about the double date story was that OP actually listened to his date about her interests in a comment, which were vintage arcade games, hence why the arcade date.
God, yeah. Every time he described Sam grinning I was like "Dude, she is doing what she can to not giggle like a flustered middle schooler my man, you're being hecking perfect!" Like, he didn't even go there with any expectations. All he wanted was to do his buddy a solid and make it a nice evening for Sam. That's so incredibly wholesome! And it shows that he genuinely cares about her having a good time. I hope she reciprocates that energy and they get to make each other really happy!
1st story op needs to do the following: 1. get a restraining order against ex husband and ex mil 2. limit ex to supervise visits with someone neutral at a neutral place 3. notify school that the dad and ex mil is under no circumstances allowed to check her out 4. to be 100% safe very likely wont be needed), ex BIL and his wife, despite being good people, cant check her out unless op is called right there and then. and id needed to prove they are them. again to be 100% safe just in case. doubt theyd side with MIL but MIL and ex could hire someone to pretend they are them...or twist things to make them switch sides
That last story is one of my all time favorites. Sam was hesitant because she saw OP putting in very little effort at school. But when he showed up on the date, I think it immediately hit her that actually, OP is just excellent at prioritising. He knows where the effort SHOULD be put - like, for example, a nice date ♡ It makes me so happy for both of them. OP demonstrated so well how one should approach dates - with effort and respect, but without high expectations. Just checking about compatibility. And whatever Sam may have been worrying about actually turned into an all around lovely time, and a relationship with someone she really clicks with and is treated well by. That makes me so happy!
OP in story 2 dodged an H bomb not even a bullet. What a piece of work Alexandra is (someone needs some therapy). If you get pleasure from causing others to feel upset/pain there is many titles for you but partner/husband/wife/parent shouldn’t be one of them. Ugh I hate those people.
Story 1: if any person stood up for their mother who is horrible to their partner, the correct response from the partner is “I’m leaving you so you can sleep with your mom. It’s like you’re cheating on me with her and/or cheating on her with me. I’m just removing myself so you could be happy”
In a way I can understand why Rachel is so calm. Alot of times it's those that have gone through the most hardships that have the best outlooks. She really does deserve everything and if you see this op good riddance and good on ya mate
About the mexico thing: It would be harder to get OP’s daughter back across an international border There is a (correct me if I’m wrong) pretty big tourist area. it’s catered and it’s somewhere people love to go (like cancoon level vacation.) From there, they could go anywhere.
Double Date story: I was thinking that Joel had a thing for Sam, and that's why he was getting so mad. Still using the "loser" friend for the date though, in hopes that she would see how bad OP is, and cling to him instead.
Thats not all of the first story, I believe there is an update of the mother-in-law tried taking the girl off the street, or might be confusing it with a similar story.
I've been in Rachel's position. My mother kicked me out and my sister hates me for petty reasons (I'm queer, autistic and ill and she thinks that's disgusting).
First story: I hope she is able to maintain supervised visits, only, because people rarely ever change. My husband's ex proved that, as she pulled a lot of the same paretal alienation tactics. She'd act to our faces like she understood that her actions were wrong, but it was more than obvious that she kept it up behind closed doors. And it was also obvious that she was making the kid involved keep it all a secret -- which is something my husband also called out as wrong.
Story 1: Mexico has no extradition treaty. So by gam and dad taking the daughter to Mexico, if the mom wanted to try and get her back against the dad's wish, she would be considered a kidnapper. Google Max Factor-Dwayne Chapman kidnap from Mexico.
Rachel has a lot more patience than I do because if someone said that to me and I had a deceased parent, Alexa would have to leave because her face wouldn't be in a state for any wedding related photos.
With the first story, something kind of happened with my little stepsister. Her mom forged my stepdad's signature for a passport and took her to mexico without anyone knowing until later. Thank god she's back in the US with people who love her, but it's still crazy.
Second story: Love how rslash changed the name of the GF so everyone's Alexas wouldn't go bananas. Wonder if OP chose this name on purpose in case reddit-reading youtubers ever got to their story...
For story 3, I think if the best way to make Person A look good is to make Person B look bad by comparison, then Person A was never that good in the first place.
Story 2: I've had to rewind the story a couple of times and I can not understand for the life of me on why she hates rachel, rachel was abandoned and forgotten for years and isn't given the time of day by her mother.
By no means am I justifying the psychos behavior but I’m assuming Alexa wasn’t keen on her mom having a secret child of sorts and doesn’t like to share attention or anything else.
Second story, WTF is Alexa's issue? Single child into golden child? I mean, obviously she became single at the end there but that's a *lot* of entitlement from one person. Wonder if the mom poisoned her against Rachel?
I'ma keep it real, op in the stepsister at the wedding story should go see what's up with Rachel. Normally, I'd avoid those murky waters, but I wouldn't blame him at all here. Rachel sounds like a catch.
Agreed. Plus how in God's name is a corny to bring a woman roses on a date? Just Because the friend is a constipated, morons don't mean other people can't express feelings other than anger. Edit I'm engaged and I always do really nice things for my fiance and one of his old friends. There's a long story we don't associate it with this person anymore. Used to make fun of me and him because I did nice things for him. And I compliment him all the time. But why wouldn't I want to do nice things for my partner who does nice things for me. Some people just don't like any type of semblance of joy. They're just bitter and mean and they just expect everyone else to be the same. And they can't handle it when people aren't
1 story.I feel bad for her cause her mother in law is being so mean and she’s like holding it in and asked her nicely to stop op leave him and the way he acts on u and does not help u.
The Husband in the first story is JUST as disgustingly toxic and entitled as his mother! He ENABLES AND DEFENDS his Mommy’s horrible actions and entitlement, while just ignoring his ex’s warnings and his daughter’s health and safety! And what the Ex-Husband AND Ex-MIL tried to do, trying to get OP back and attempted kidnapping of OP’s daughter and telling her about moving, etc., shows that these two are borderline DANGEROUSLY unhinged and creepy! Bad enough that the Ex-Husband tried to get OP back with his begging and such, but him and his Mom TRYING to manipulate the daughter and kidnap her… THIS is a red flag and they should have a restraining order filed against them! I RATHER keep my daughter FAR from those two scumbags than risk losing her during visits if I was OP! The Dad lost his chance and right to BE a Dad the moment he sided with his toxic, racist Mother!
Story 1: After all the red flags, the OP should not have had a child with this man. Now she’s connected to the crazy ex MIL forever. And connected to her crazy ex. I know the child is a blessing but this will be a long stressful ride co-parenting with that man.
Last story: I think too many "attractive" people think that all potential partners care about are looks. My husband tells a story about trying to date a gorgeous, but intellectually deficient, woman in college. He couldn't take not being able to have a conversation and ended things in less than a month. He also noticed that his very attractive friends were less successful than the ones that could make girls laugh. All that said, he also fully believes that a lot of guys are shallow and that if a woman isn't also attractive they won't think of her beyond being a friend.
As for the last story, I'm going to quote RU-vidr Shugurr's "asked out as a prank" video: "For some people, there self worth is tied to their social status. They'll try super hard to stand out and be expected. They might pile on the makeup,buy expensive clothes, create a fake persona,but none of these things can actually fix the real issue. But it can increase their social points a bit. So when they see someone they think of as a lower status just existing, being happy regardless of the clothes or status that they have, it's a huge shock. They start thinking about what they says about THEM. And their place in this world." This fits this story exactly. It sounds to me like Joel is jealous of op being happy despite him (possibly) thinking of him as lower.
How do you know she didn't tell him. Sounds to me like she gave him plenty of opportunities. He just kept giving her the brush up making excuses for his mother. I get it. Your entire personality is being a raging misogynist and always turning every situation around on women no matter how deplorable men act, but grow up. And just so we're clear, no one's saying women are always the victim or they're innocent or they're perfect. But you're always saying men are innocent that they're always perfect.
Op, I know you want your ex to be in your daughter’s life, but let this be your wake-up call. You CANNOT let him see her anymore until he gets therapy, at least.
Story 1: I won't lie it should NOT have to take your child being hospitalized for op to realize THAT HER HUSBAND AND HIS MOTHER ARE DANGEROUS. No, you do not have to keep contact with your ex just because you have a child with them!? Especially if he's a danger AND A KIDNAPPER! What the hell kind of logic is this? Even if this isn't a aitah post op deserves 2. And he attempted to kidnap her and yet she still says "I shouldn't take my child away from her father" your new bf is also her father, right!?!? WHAT ABOUT HIM?
For the first story, I have a theory: The mother, being racist, thinks that all Mexicans are below here. Thus, if we follow that line of semi-logic, we can conclude that if she lived in Mexico, she would be like a queen. But hey, that’s just a theory.
Story 1: RSlash, you're kinda forgetting that Mexico has no extradition treaty with the US, so her daughter would be as good as gone if they were able to take her. Assuming, of course, that OP didn't decide to go the illegal route and hire someone to retrieve her
I remember the first story and not only am I still shaking my head, I just realised on how ironic it was that the MIL wanted to take OP's daughter to Mexico, while she was giving OP grief for being Hispanic... Even R/Slash saw the irony!
Story 2: Alexa is a Cluster of Bees. Possibly narcissist or borderline. Who knows, I am only an armchair diagnostician. In any case, Narcissists and other Clusters of Bees can get judgmental as heck and will hate people for no good/logical reason, mainly because they need a scapegoat as all Cluster B's do, and in Alexa's case, this definitely tracks as Rachel was her scapegoat. OP dodged a bullet as Alexa let her mask slip when in Rachel's presence. That was a HUGE red marinara flag. Good on OP for breaking up and not selling his soul to a "Demon in the Sack" for passionate hugging.
the greatest debate of all time. what is worst....the JustNoMIL or the spineless mama's boy? You can have have a JustNoMIL without a Mama's boy....but you can have a spineless Mama's Boy with a JustNoMIL
Rslash: "Racist MIL wanting to go to Mexico is dumb." It would be... except Mexico is famous for people wanting to avoid extradition. While the US and Mexico have an extradition treaty, it can take YEARS for extradition to be executed. This assumes it ever even happens. That means they go to Mexico and live happily, or stay until the cops start sniffing around and flee to a place where there isn't a treaty.
Thank you for everything you do everyday, especially changing the name in Story 2 to Alexandra. That would have ended up driving my, and probably others', Alexa crazy LOL
Second story: NTA. I can't even blame OP for reacting like that. All her words were meant to hurt as much as possible. With the update: I was thinking on separation because she showed a really nasty behavior. I knew it, I knew she will force out the apology, but why does she wants to be at peace with OP? I smell a golddiger or someone who married by personal and selfish gain.
That guy in the almost-kidnapping story is not just racist (and enabling a racist is being racist), he is also pretty sexist. His wife says repeatedly 'this is my experience' and he responds consistently 'no it isn't.' But, then a man (his brother) says 'that is your wife's experience' and suddenly exe believes what he is told. OP is well rid of the guy and the guy's mother.
I think it's safe to say that Joel and OP had two very different ideas in mind about OP's "job". Joel i think wanted OP to do the bare minimum to spend time with Sam to placate Jean. OP heard that this was Sams first real date and wanted to do his best to give her a good date. OP did what Jean wanted instead of what Joel wanted basically. Lol. I also vibe with OP about looking completely different outside of work/school. My coworkers sometimes don't recognise me when I wear normal clothes and wear makeup and dont have my hair up
In story 1, you most CERTAINLY can take away your daughter's father. He's being a bad father. "I don't want to use my daughter as ammunition". You're not. He is. You are protecting your daughter. Screw the lot of them at this point.
MIL: I should have OP's daughter. She is unfit. Did you know she let a crazy person in the house, that forced daughter to take essential oils that hospitalized her. What kind of mom lets that kind of person in the house? OP: Uh.....you were that crazy person. You did that MIL: Who the crazy person is besides the point regardless of how beautiful, smart and perfect they are
First Story: People who defend a racist are just as bad as the racist themself. This man defended his mom when she was being blatantly disrespectful and racist to OP and tried to take their daughter away from OP. This man is a walking red flag and insane. The fact this man sees the error of his ways after his brother stood up for his wife against his family is wild, the fact he thinks flowers and chocolates is going to win OP back is wild, and the fact he is trying to get their daughter to hate OP because OP refuses to go back with this manipulative asshat is baffling. OP needs to get full custody and cut all forms of contact from this guy Update 1: So this man plans to just take their daughter? He does know thats illegal right? Update 2: I’m glad OP is taking the right steps to protect her child. I honestly think she should keep her daughter away from this man because I have a feeling he is going to feed their daughter lies about OP Second Story, NTA: Wow, Alexa is a different kind of evil; why is OP with this woman? Where does this hatred come from? Rachel was abandoned by her mother and lost her dad and Alexa is being needlessly mean. OP should see this as the red flag as it is Update: Wow, Alexa is truly awful. So she was willing to "apologize" only if OP stayed with her. I’m glad OP got rid of this toxic woman. Rachel did nothing to deserve this treatment Third Story: Seems like Joel is mad that OP was having a better time with Sam and Jean being happy for her friend than Jean having her attention 100% on him. Hearing this, I was under the impression that it was a double date, not OP babysitting Jean's friend so Joel can get a chance at getting laid that night Update: I’m glad everything went well for OP and managed to start dating Sam. I’m also glad Joel took what OP said to heart
She called Rachel a bastard and then goes on to say that it's not her mothers fault as she was young and made mistakes. What i heard was she said Rachel was bad for being abandoned as a baby, but her mother was not bad for abandoning a baby. What the hell kind of double standard is that.
Last story: Joel wanted to bring op along to make him look better, looks and personality wise. He’s mad because it did the opposite and made him look like he put in no effort for his date and wasn’t a good person
For the story “Stop it” I had to listen to it a couple of times. Because I kept thinking Alex was the one abdondoned so she was upset at Rachel, since you know that… that actually has more sense to it. It wouldn’t be ok but the initial resentment would be understandable. But the fact that Rachel was born BEFORE Alex and then the mom stayed with Alex’s dad… wut? Am I still misunderstanding this?
That father went to so much effort, mine simply kidnapped me; no plan, he just grabbed me and took me to his house. My mom, in her infinite wisdom, took my siblings to grandma's house so they couldn't be abducted... okay but, they were my only friends at school. Speaking of school, she showed up, and I thought I was saved, but she only came to school to tell me that she was doing things "legally" and that even though she had full custody, I would just have to live with my dad "because he grabbed me" or something, I'm not really sure.
Story 1's MIL sounds like the kind of woman who would go on holiday to Spain then complain theres too many foreigners! We have a name for those people in the UK, Gammon :D
