2nd Story - They didn't fire her because when somebody quits, there's no unemployment, no wrongful termination lawsuits, and much less paperwork. Personally, I would have accepted her resignation and just made it effective immediately. Same results.
I've been telling IT managers for decades that I can literally do my job from anywhere with an internet connection. They were SHONKED when during the pandemic, we all worked flawlessly from home, increased productivity, job satisfaction, and customer service. When the lockdowns were lifted, they tried to get people back in the office and people quit in DROVES. My team had around 50% turnover 2 years in a row before they finally relented and let people work remotely. My office got sold during the pandemic, so I'm one of the lucky ones who never has to worry about returning to the office... now if they'd just start giving us pay increases based on performance, I'd be set.
Absolutely. Multiple studies have proved that working remotely actually improves productivity. It's also eco friendly. And leads to less stressed employees. Less mistakes made.
Some idiot ex Australian politician who is now some corporate knob recently tried to say people working from home should take a pay cut because they don't have to pay for travel to work. Typical corporate flog so ef him.
A friend of mine had this too. He and his co workers had been trying for years to get working from home approved. Not every day but at least some and management kept telling them it was not possible. Then the pandemic happened and guess what. Suddenly it was possible and they increased productivity. Thery collected data from that and brought it to confront the bosses when they demanded they return after the pandemic. Like your place the work place emptied out when the management stayed stubborn.
They let Michelle quit because of unemployment and potential legal liability. If she quits, she forfeits the right to claim benefits. Is she's fired, the hospital could still deny by calling it for-cause, but it'd be a potential legal and bureaucratic hassle.
I’m just here wondering why Michelle bothered with the two weeks 😂 you’re not putting them on your resume anyway and you don’t do anything anyway so just go home bruh… not the sharpest tool in the shed this Michelle
Story One: If it ain't broke, dont fix it. Seriously, people need to learn this lesson. But alas, we know managers on Malicious Compliance or Pro Revenge stories. Story Two: Ah yes, get the great worker in trouble for dress code via fabrication, only to cause your bosses to come down when you know yourself you've been lazy on the job.
On the flip side of Story One, I work from home 100% and my company pays for my Internet. In full. I pointed out I use it to game. "We don't care. You use it to work, too."
The story, there is a problem and the worker must come to the office. The problem is that the managers now can't control and micromanage people. And that is a big no-no for people who are powertripping. /s
Upper management always has to change things to take credit for something and justify their jobs. Then when they leave(usually before the shit hits the fan) another upper manager justifies their job by changing it back…
I had a nurse who didn’t seem to wanna do her job. I had a scoliosis surgery which two rods and 14 screws were implanted inside me. As soon as I woke up after the surgery, I couldn't really move anything but my head and hands. I was drug up but I could tell my stomach felt queasy so I was pressing a button to get a nurses attention but nobody showed up for almost 10 minutes, and since I couldn’t move I ended up puking all over myself. It took the nurse a while to show up, when she saw my mess instead of helping me to clean up, she just commented, "What?! Why did you-?! Ugh forget it! I’m not cleaning this!” And left. After being covered in my own vomit for 15 minutes, my parents finally arrived and saw the mess and called for help. I eventually got cleaned up, told them what the nurse did, and I think she got into trouble for ignoring me when I needed her. The only thing I could think of while all this was happening was, “Well, SORRY for being paralyze here, woman! ”
That nurse was a bitch. I'm so sorry you had to go through that. As if you would choose to just puke on yourself for no reason... what twat of a nurse. Made my blood boil reading this, lol.
If you were laying down wouldn't that have put you at risk of choking on your vomit?! I really hope the nurse got properly reprimanded for that stunt. Like the other comments said, that kind of behavior has no business in healthcare
@@amppuomppupomppu I think that could've been the case. But It could've possibly be that I couldn't drink or eat anything but Cranberry juice for almost a week for my surgery or because I was laying in a slight upright position to watch a movie on my iPod that my folks set up. Now that I've think about it, It would've been a scary experience if I did choked in that situation.😮💨
I would be surprised if the mom didn't, honestly. I'd be mad as hell if I was in that situation and learned my partner had told our child not to call home for a ride or during an emergency.
or the bosses have invested money into the realestate, and if it's not used, the value drops. Depending on how they invested, this could lead to their house of cards collapsing, which is why they use their executive power to force people back into the office. You know, if a government official did this, it would be called "corruption". Isn't it great that we can't elect our bosses, and that they aren't bound by anti-corruption laws, even a little bit?
@@Nerobyrnewhen you do the maths even if you own the building it’s better to sell it rather than pay for it being empty or lose enormous productivity and company time because now your employees have to go from pont A to B for no reason. Instead you can have your employees be happier and able to just plug in their laptop at 8 and get going. The fact that most industries that can haven’t done that system long ago just shows humans are just stubborn and don’t think or do things that make sense or are efficient, not at a bigger scale
Story 2: Wow, there is always that one person in the workplace. Incompetent, doing whatever they want on the computer, acting like doing any job is an absolute burden. Like, she needs to work to get paid, nobody pays her to just search for adult stuff on their computers.
I think the management is just as bad. They put OP on probation because a nurse and patient complaint? They didn't follow up with the patient? I mean, they could have been traumatized by OP's lewd display right? No, they just assumed and put her on probation and wasted manhours babysitting her. And they warned her for personal computer usage, but clearly did no followup about that either. They're the reason people like Michelle end up terrorizing co-workers for far too long.
I can’t help but imagine OP’s mom in the last story just slowly turning towards his dad with the mother of all death glares before gently asking OP to go to his room to dry off. 🤣
Dad's home alone with the babysitter and is upset about getting calls. Yeah I don't think the wife's going to be just upset about not picking up the kids.😂😂😂
and someone in the background playing a stereo song that sang the words "the slience, the terror, the pain, the horror as your mom walk down stairs" which each lyrical word matching with the slow movements and the subsequent mother of all death glares. 🤣🤣
Mimi didn't endanger the patient on purpose. It seems she always wears too much perfume. But when she saw the comment card, Mimi seized the chance to blame OP instead!
@@uselessinformation1988 i suppose you could call it fraud, but how does it intentionally endanger the patient? It seems like the office didn't have a no-scent policy for allergies, so what she was fired for was the "fraud" towards OP, not towards the patients. If there had been a no-scent policy and an awareness of scent-sensitive individuals, then you could make a claim of (intentional) endangerment.
Last story. I used to walk to my elementary school with my grandmother then she would walk me back home in kindergarten. After that 1st grade and up me and a friend walked together. It was a small town and only like mile up some side streets to get there. Well I understand when adults tell kids something they will take it literally. We had a sub and when school let out she walked out and started telling everyone to get on the bus. Well I tried to say something but she just was trying to round up kids and told me get on the bus. I road the bus until it's last stop 5 miles away in the next town. The driver asked if I missed my spot and I told him he didn't stop at my house or near it. He realized I wasn't supposed to be on the bus and my mom showed up at the superintendents office where they brought me to pick me up and the sub was told that not 'all' the kids take the bus and to be sure about that next time.. But at least I got some juice and a twinkie as a snack. I still remember the bus ride and the snack. Not much else.
That last story sounds SO SO much like an experience I had. There was my elementary school close to the house. My mother and father split up for a few years (yes this is relevant but got back together thankfully) But during that time, mom and dad where not always getting along. This is pre cell phone time. There was a storm off the coast where I live, it was called "the no name storm" as it did as much damage as a hurricane and will date how old I am about to anyone that knows what I am talking about. It SAT on the coast for so long it ripped the shores up. The first day, I tried to call for a ride and was told "it is not that bad get over it" by dad (he was working nights and not awake). SO I walked and it was MISSERABLE. The second day... dad ran to the door as I was leaving to school and said, " DO NOT GO TO SCHOOL.. do not whatever you do go into school today." I later found out that a tornado went by my freaking class room across the road throwing glass and cars into the school. Yes reports of injuries and they had to do an actual tornado drill under the desk style that day. Thankfully no one died in the school, the no name storm did kill people though. SO why does it remind me of the last story? What I found out later was my mother and father still helped each other a lot during their split, and is probably why they got back to gather a year later. They did newspaper routs for several companies in the middle of the night so someone would always be home with the kids. My mother and father decided to team up that night before my dad ran to the door to stop me. I didn't realize he was soaking wet at the time with leaves in his hair. Mom and Dad almost got into a huge accident in the middle of the night and almost hit a down tree but my mom saw it last second and they had to stop and have one of those "life flashes before you eyes" moments as they skidded to a stop in the darkest part of an area due to no power and the down tree. Hell, mom even said "I didn't even see the tree I just knew to tell him to stop the car NOW" and it saved them from what I was told from getting knocked off a creeks bridge. This is all relevant. My father then opened his mouth, and said something that caused him to get absolutely reamed by my mother for an hour or two longer while they where driving the rest of the route. "I feel bad for making Drake walk home in the rain yesterday now that I see how bad this storm is" ... Dad .. poor, silly, misguided, tired dad...in a car, with a pissed wife that you are separated from .. in a horrible storm.. for two hours. My compliance was not malicious, but... I found out after they got back together exactly how PISSED she was. Back before cell phones and everything being a lot easier to get ahold of people, there where a LOT of very wet kids getting home.
@@drakesnake330 wow. I came here from your comment on the the other hurricane story. Was that Hurricane Elena? I have yet to experience a hurricane since moving to Louisiana in 2020. I'm both excited and terrified lol. And RIP to your mom. She sounds awesome! 💙💙
@@jessicapalmer3455 if you google the "No Name Storm, Florida" You will see a lot about it. It was in 1993 and was bigger than hurricane. It was WILD how destructive it was. It had literally NO NAME as it was not a hurricane just a bunch of things happened perfectly to create almost "the perfect storm" situation. And I get the excitement, I played in the high winds of hurricane Charlie and danced in the rain. It is fun yet scary. You get used to them and they become apart of very interesting memories, some good, some bad, for sure. And yeah, mom was cool AF. I miss her, lost her a year ago and it just has not been the same. Dad is doing ok, and is still a goofy absent minded professor type of a man. He sometimes just does dumb stuff. We love daddo around here :) Your family sounds very much like mine in the dynamics and it made me laugh and got that memory of mine to the surface for real. Stay safe in the storms dude.
Had a coworker who was able to BS his bosses into both giving him unrestricted internet access, and letting him shift his hours from 8-4 to 10-6. You can see where this is going, right? On the night before holidays, the cleaning staff were allowed to start early, so they could be with their families. Sure enough, the little old Italian cleaning lady came into his cubicle to empty the trash, and caught him 'en flagrante": watching P on his work computer. Normally it's almost impossbile for a unionized State worker to get fired (unless you offend a politician) but he managed it. FIRED. I guess the combination of slacking off, abusing computer resources, and sexual harrassment of the cleaning lady were enough.
management's job is to know you're doing your job. its easier for them when they walk look over your shoulder at any random minute. it's harder when they have you message you and don't know why you didn't respond in 10 minutes. do they just have bad timing, or are you just always away?
@@ilovefunnyamv2nd Imo, if the work is getting completed (which, if the company is getting industry awards for productivity, it clearly is), then management should get out of their own fucking way and take the free paycheck. Who gives a shit if the WFH guy figured out a script to automate his job if the end result is the company makes more money and doesn’t need to pay anyone? Consider it a licensing fee and move on with your day
Hell, they still think real work isn't real work. How many times do people say McDonalds isn't a real job? Yeah, well tell that to all those 18 year olds who have permanent scarring from frying oil burning them. I've got some, even though I didn't do Fast Food. I worked at my family restaurant.
Story 3: Imagine telling someone to basically "suck it up" and walk through unfavorable conditions, such as extreme temperatures, heavy storms, etc. Also, don't imply stuff, people won't always figure that out. At least it wasn't AS bad as other posts, but man I can just picture OP trudging through flooded grounds and heavy rain like a trooper
I loved the last story. One of those times when you actually win an argument or proves you are right to your parents. Kids are so good at being malicious compliant to prove a point.
I'm pretty sure that a nurse like that would be fired after about 3 complaints especially during the pandemic you could not afford to have a nurse sitting on their ass like that. All OP needed to do was have one of their friends call in and say that they saw this woman watching Netflix while they were on the clock. They'll definitely be in on her ass in a second with an investigation.
Not necessarily. Far too many times there have been bad nurses that have been allowed to stay around for years in spite of the detriment they caused their co-workers and their patients. They just convicted a killer nurse in England where she was killing babies and had been reported by doctors and other nurses. They made one doctor apologize to her for reporting her and accusing her of killing babies and she was killing babies. There's a nursing shortage here in America. And because of that nursing shortage they hang onto nurses that are terrible and completely burnt out the good ones.
@@kranberry3318 no, literally killing babies. She was a neonatal nurse named Lucy Letby. It makes me queasy and upset just to type this out. She murdered several babies in spite of alarms raised.
Final story. The look on the mother's face when OP said my dad was the reason I walked home and double down on that face. That slow turn to look at the father in absolute disgust had to golden.
First Story: This is a classic case of if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. This new director screwed over the business with one needless choice. The company was doing amazing until they got a new director Second Story: God if it wasn’t for RU-vid and there rules, I would’ve love to hear Rslash say Bitchelle instead of Michelle. That said, clearly Bitchelle was mad that OP was having her do actual work to the point she was making up reports to get OP in trouble in the hopes OP would leave her alone to slack off. That ending with OP flashing her is hilarious Comment: Mimi brought that on herself sadly. She tried to get OP in trouble but failed miserably Third Story: First off, 85° is insanely hot and a person could pass out in that kind of heat. Second, I bet OP's dad learned a lesson from that; it sucks that it took OP walking through a hurricane for him to learn that lesson
It especially depends on where you are. Some places get that hot normally and the folks living there are used to it. Of course humidity needs to be factored in since that affects the heat index.
I can relate to the Mimi story: many years ago I was working in an outpatient physical therapy center. One of the patients was a disgusting man who was trying to hit on me. In retaliation he complained to the owner's sister (who ran the office) that he was so offended by me & wouldn't return back until I was fired. Without even hearing my side, I was let go. Several weeks later, I hear from a friend of mine who still worked there that he tried again with another girl. Same story, he complained & the owner's sister asked her if his accuations were true (of course not) Now that everyone else knew what this guy was about his reception was not exactly warm & friendly (everyone was weary of him trying to get them fired) so he quit coming in. And the owner's sister realized she was taking the word of a vindictive incel, and now she had lost several good employees. The place did not last another year.
I'm a nurse,and my passion is working in senior homes/hospitals . I was a newbie there,and the first day, I had a nurse show me around and we went to wash and feed an elderly lady.. the coworker, started saying stuff like, this old hag is still a virgin,and hasn't gotten di*k at all, and she'll die a virgin, all the while we were helping the old lady . The lady was paralyzed and had dementia, and I saw tears running from her eyes, while this b word of a coworker talked about her like that . I went to the employee bathroom and cried, because I had just lost my grandparents a while back,and missed them so much,and saw my grandma in that lady . When I went to complain to our boss, can you guess what happened? Nothing to the coworker, because no one believed me because I was new! But I got a warning for lying!! I quit after that! I lasted there for a month,and was sought after because I speak 4 languages,and that hospital needed me for my language skills, as the elderly there spoke my native language.. I wanted so badly to work there,but It was so toxic!! And the workers there,made fun of me, for having been married for so long,at a young age,and tried to get me to go to bars with them to hook up with guys... It was a nightmare!!!
That guy just wanted to have the feeling of him ruling the kingdom by having the minions underneath his foot. That's why he wanted them all there in that building for 3 days.
2nd Story: I kind of wonder how that terrible nurse was getting away with doing nothing. Nurses rarely have downtime, so if she was screwing around online, I'm surprised the other nurses were letting her get away with it.
Actually I walked home from work in a hurricane. Our city had the outer bands and was an evacuation zone. I worked at Taco Bell at the time and looked like I was about to loose it. My relief saw this and told me not to worry about clean up. My apartment was close to the complex’s laundry room - so I even did laundry in a hurricane. 😂
Last story: One of the key things that a lot of people don't seem to understand about kids is that they have the same psychological needs as adults, which includes the need to be able to make choices about one's own life, but often lack the ability to fulfil these needs. As a result, when they are given a chance to make choices, even bad choices, they'll do it happily because it's the only chance they get. This results in kids often doing stupid things that put them at risk. I'm glad this person had everything turn out fine, but this could very easily have gone the other way. And it's all because the father, instead of suggesting that the choice to call was okay but the specifics had to be modified, took the choice away entirely. It's not about what the father "implied". You've got to leave wiggle room in rules so that kids have the option to make the smart choice, because if you don't the kids will take whatever choice they can.
I have a suspicion that the nurse was jealous. Also lazy, but that’s a different matter. Jealousy is not logical and makes people do some very stupid things that lead to their own downfall.
Man the final hit of the op flashing her tits was beautiful. 🤣🤣🤣 she definitely had it coming lying and doing the things that you’re were doing and then projecting it on op getting her in trouble was definitely bite you in the ass
When i was a kid, i lived only three blocks away from school and since we were so close, we came home for lunch. On my first day of kindergarten, my mother explained that i was supposed to walk home at lunch but a crossing guard, a man that i was supposed to know would help me cross the street. There were three problems. First problem was that nobody told me about recess. I vividly remember walking past kids on the playground and thinking they must not want lunch. The second problem was that I really didn't know the crossing guard but i knew he was supposed to have an orange vest. The third and largest problem was that the road in front of the school had a water main damaged and was dug up and filled with wet muddy clay. I saw the construction workers down the street and assumed they were crossing guards and decided to cross the remnants of the road. I got half way across when the suction of the wet mud pulled off my boot. Being unable to release it from the street's grip, i abandoned it and proceeded on with one bare foot. I can't remember what my mother said when i came in the door completely covered in mud with only one boot, but i do remember that I didn't need to go back that day and i was made a grilled cheese sandwich for lunch.
Firing someone often means that you owe them some form of compensation. Getting them to quit is the better option for both parties. They appear less dangerous to the next employer, and you don't have to pay.
Having a nurse mother with an extremely close name to "Michelle", I was beyond upset hearing the first story despite it having no ties to my mom. Thankfully, my mom is a wonderful and devoted person, but it felt like outrageous slander, how dare that "Michelle"!! >:(
Story 2: I'd say the reason they let her work out her 2 weeks rather than firing her was to save themselves from having to giver her any sort of severance package.
About managers enforcing useless mandatory presence in the office: So far I have identified two reasons for managers to do that: Reason 1 (minority): Some people are so extroverted, that they thrive in a busy office environment with strong office culture (doesn't matter if it's voluntary or enforced culture), and become depressed when everyone works from home and they either sit at home, too, or in an empty office. And somehow they just can't adapt. Reason 2 (majority): For many, being a manager is a thing of prestige and validation. So they NEED to be constantly seen and their position to be recognized (often through impulsive activism or micromanagement). But if everyone is working from home, this becomes very difficult. It doesn't matter, how effective or efficient a decision or process would be, and how much money can be saved or made with it, an individual's ego will always be more important.
Walking home story: if that was my parents, my mom would have agreed with my dad, because they always back each other up, even when they're blatantly obviously wrong.
The last story just reminded me of this LMAO When I was maybe 10 I was of course being a little brat. My mom was at the end of her rope with me. I sarcastically said "Maybe I should just run away from home". My mom said "Maybe you should". Malicious compliance activated. I jumped on my bike and rode way out in the country to a friend's farm. We spent a couple hours riding her horses and goofing off. Finally I went home and found my mom losing her mind with worry. She spanked the crap out of me LOL Later she was telling a friend about what had happened and the friend jumped her because my mom had told me to go ahead and run away. My mom was so embarrassed that she actually apologized to me. We hugged it out and it was fine but it was probably my very first malicious compliance moment.
The company I work for has been remote for a couple years. We are now at 1 week a month in office. Quality, satisfaction, and all metrics have went down because of that 1 week. Rumor had it they are increasing it to 2 weeks a month. It's almost like companies put their ego above productivity and profits.
I can't be the only one who thought "wtf" at the end of the awful coworker story. Like getting her fired was justified, but is flashing people not illegal???
Regarding your question about the first story Dabney, its a control issue. Thats why employers forced people to come back to the office and resisted letting employees work from home who could before the pandemic. Its the same reason companies lobby against universal healthcare. You would think they would be for it, so it took the burden off employers to provide health insurance. But look at what happened a couple years ago when Verizon went on strike? First they did was cut off the health plans of the striking workers. That confirms what I'm saying. See how much you want to strike when your sick kid can't make their next appointment.
Last story reminded me of this. When I was in middle school, there was a day where we had winds upwards of 50 MPH (to clarify, this was not a tornado, just incredibly strong winds). Trees were getting blown over, roof shingles and sidings was getting blown off houses, trampolines were taking vacations, and there was a wide spread power outage. For some stupid reason, the school board was insistent that this wasn't enough of an emergency to call off school for any amount of time and that anyone who didn't show up would be marked as absent or something, because it was enough of a backlash to make almost every parent in the area get out to drive their kids in. My mom had already left to drive my younger siblings to school, and stupid me thought it would be a good idea to try and bike to school because I didn't want to be marked as absent (priorities!) I quickly found out that balancing on a bike was impossible, and thankfully one of my friends parents saw me and got me a ride the rest of the way. Normally, most kids would be walking in, but with the weather being the way it was, everyone was driving their kids and there was a mile long line of cars waiting for their turn to drop off their kids. When I finally got dropped off we were all called in for an assembly, where we were packed into a half lit gym and the principle cheered us on for showing so much school spirit and showing up against the weather! He told us he was so proud that he could rely on everyone to have a normal day of school and told us class would be held as normal! Turns out, he was completely full of it. Most of the teachers hadn't shown up, and the handful that did weren't teaching anything. You were pretty much free to walk to whatever classroom you wanted and do whatever you felt like, as long as you weren't destroying anything. The teachers all made it clear that they wanted nothing to do with teaching and they were pissed that they even had to show up. After about an hour of this, most kids started calling their parents to have them pick them up, including myself. This was before cell phones were common, so there was a line of students waiting to use the front desk phone. I still remember calling my mom to tell her that the school basically wasn't happening, and the secretary snapped at me "School is still in session, you are just calling out sick!" The wind had died out at this point, but the whole city was a mess! Cleanup from this lasted a couple weeks, largely due to the neighborhood all pitching in together and marking sure everyone was taken care of. Otherwise I suspect it would have taken months. My parents were happy to see me home. Sadly, there is no twist at the end. I don't think anyone faced any repercussions for the bad call to keep school in session, nor did the teachers face anything for not showing. You can find some articles about the storm in Salt Lake UT, dated Dec 2011. If anyone has some malicious compliance stories or pro revenge stories about this incident, I'd love to hear them. I always thought that the people behind the school board should have faced more consequence for forcing everyone to come in during a state of emergency.
*Story #1* A) Did the hospital receive a complaint from a patient and failed to investigate it? Especially if the complaint is about something subjective. Does the hospital have dress code rules? If so, was it respected? It doesn't even make sense to put the person to whom the complaint referred "on probation" because unless that person was stupid with two people always following her she would have behaved and dressed appropriately from then on. In the end, after discovering the truth, they got away with a simple "sorry". Where is the "moral compensation" for those who had to suffer all this abuse from the unsupervised nurse? Had none of the nurse's colleagues and managers noticed his behavior and reported it? If, as it turns out, she spent many hours surfing the internet instead of working, his work was supposedly done by others. So I fear that there was also someone who somehow had her back... B) I believe the hospital chose to have her resign and not fire her as a matter of convenience. By firing her they should have given a reason, providing facts. Facts that could have highlighted some of their shortcomings.
Story 1, my manager was asked, recently, “so what do you think would happen if we return to full office?” (in Mexico, as of very soon work from home employees will need to be paid for light and wifi used, as well as a company-provided chair and for some reason, a printer. Work with all music software? Printer, maybe print a song.) He said “Well for starters, I’ll lose my top 5 performers.” Keep in mind we work with the most important client in the company. It was estimated that we’d lose about 30% of all employees, and hiring costs + productivity losses + client flight risks due to instability would far outweigh the cost of increasing employee pay. I’m just glad I work somewhere that is smart enough to ask “is this move company suicide?” Story 2: The reason they let her quit rather than fire her, is because then you only have to pay 2 weeks’ pay and not severence. That would usually be 1-2 weeks pay for every year the employee worked there. If she worked there 4 years, they would have to pay her for 4-8 weeks. It was legit just, cheaper to keep her.
Walked Home Story: That story, while funny as heck, would have been even better if OP had said: Mom: How did you get home? OP: I swam! If the roads were THAT flooded, he might have been able to literally do that... 😄😁😆😅😂🤣
Story 2, a lot of people don't realize if you are fired from your job you have a strong chance of collecting unemployment. There are exceptions that prevent you from collecting like, stealing, drugs, missing touch time and hurting someone. Letting someone quit automatically prevents them from collecting unless they can prove something like hostile work environment.
I’ve been working from home since I started my job a year and half ago. We are an agency and are spread all over the US and Canada. They have never forced us to go into the office (it’d be impossible for me since the nearest office is 3 hours from me) and never will.
Listening to walk home: cue the Texans coming to complain about how 97 degrees Fahrenheit ain't nothing. Like yeah we get it bud, it's hot out here. That doesn't mean you can invalidate his pain
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Getting rid of offices is NOT a win win for everyone (about the commentary not the story). I agree with proving hybrid/flexibility but not switching to home work only. Not everyone has or can afford a comfortable working environment at home. I have a very small attic flat with no proper office chair that is freezing in winter and boiling in summer. My heating bills went through the roof during the pandemic when I had to work from home through the winter. Also not everyone suits sitting around alone all day, especially if they live alone and it means they don't have any in-person interactions during the working week. Some people struggle with motivation when stuck alone at home with no structure or prefer a clearer home/work separation. Younger workers can also miss out on important informal learning and networking. Just because you prefer working from home doesn't mean it is better for everyone.
Last story..had a similar thing happen to me. Middle of winter...massive blizzard going on outside. the whole city was shutdown..even the buses. My mom had to go in to work cuz she worked at a hospital. My dads work had called that morning to say not to come in. Dad was a bit of a drinker back then so he started early that day. When I got up the tv said all the schools were closed but the old man threatened to kick my a$$ if I didn't get my "lazy a$$" to school. Sooooo I walked 45 min thru the blizzard in snow up to/over my knees to school. This was in 7th grade so I was like 12. 5 foot nothing weighing about 80 pounds. When I finally get to school the door I normally go in was locked. I walked around to the main doors and pounded on them for a few minutes. Finally the custodian came along and let me in. He ask me what the hell I was doing there. I told him why so he let me in. He took out a basketball from the storage room and let me play in the gym until he was done working. There was NO ONE in the school but me and him. About 3 PM I headed back home. The blizzard was still going on. I got home about 4 pm. When I walked in the house my mom was already home screaming at the old man about where the hell is our son. I looked like a tiny snowman. Mom asked where I was and I told her told her dad made me go to school even though he knew it was closed. He just wanted to drink in peace without listening to me playing my video games. Mom and I moved out for a few months after that. Best months on my life.
They let the nurse quit because it's easier than fighting her over unemployment if they fired her. They probably would have won, since it was a termination with just cause; but letting her quit avoids the fight entirely.
To be fair in that last story it was probably safer for the kid to walk than to have someone attempt to drive in that weather. I think the best solution would have been for the father to walk to the school and escort the kid home.
the last story remained me of something my mom told me. Not 100% the same but sort of. My mom had a rule that if you threw up at school 3 times then you could go to the nurse and call home. One day mine and my sister's school's AC broke just hours before school started. It's a three story building and the third floor felt like you were in your home in the middle of summer and you've lost power. I get overheated easily, and since there were testing going on on the second floor where one of my classes was, I had no choice but to go to the third floor where I kept asking the teacher if I could go to bathroom cause I felt like I was gonna throw up. Me and my sister finally get home and I tell her what happened, she asked why did I go to the nurse and tell her to call her. I reminded her of her rule that she set in place. Did I put myself in danger of not going to the nurse despite feeling like I was gonna throw up cause I was on the third floor of a school with no AC? Probably.
I have a story about a ride. When I was working for ‘the PIC Group’, a company where we inspected automobile parts for GM, my little brother was tasked with dropping me off and picking me up. One day, it was raining after a very hot week so I wanted to walk home, and since my brother had to take a detour to pick up our little sister as well, I decided to walk home. My brother snaps at me; “if you wanna walk, I’m not picking you up again.” I said, “oh yes you are. I’m not walking instead of getting rides, I’m walking to cool off, and because I’ll be home before you.” He insisted that wasn’t true, but I got out at the next red light, and made it home a good half hour before he did with our sister. My parents then told him that if he didn’t want to pick me up anymore, he didn’t have to, but he wouldn’t get to drive to hang out with his friends either. He quickly stopped that little tantrum of his.
Companies that forced their employees to come back into offices after the pandemic were run by people who invested in business office space. This was about protecting their real estate assets, NOT about working environment!
A lot of Businesses don't like Work from Home as this is due to a lesser need for management. So they are trying to force people back into an office setting so the management can justify their existence and save their jobs. Many other businesses LOVE WFH as they don't have to spend money on renting an office and they get far more productivity from their workforce. Office workers LOVE WFH as they don't have to waste time and money of travel costs while working the hours they want to work (as long as the same amount of work gets done). Also WFH means you don't need to live near your job and can move out of City's saving you a ton of mortgage/rent payments
There was a perfect day like that for me. I was fourteen, and my grandmother had passed away a week prior to the incident. I ended up going home while my mom stayed with my grandfather to help him out, and my dad worked pretty much 9-5. We were getting a whole lotta snow, like, really bad snow storms. Somehow school wasn't cancelled on this day. I went out to the bus stop, and my dad passed on his way to work and asked if I wanted a ride. I politely declined and waited for the bus. Me and several kids were waiting for about 35 minutes until they started going home to get rides. But I did not have anyone home. So...I just went back. Thank GOD I remembered to grab my house key that day, because I didn't have a phone yet and my dad wouldn't have been back till 5PM when it was like 7:45 AM. I went in my room, turned on my little heater, and got some of my favorite hot soup to warm up. Binged RU-vid curled up on my bed the whole day until my mom ended up coming home, confused as heck to why I wasn't at school. School was not cancelled actually. Apparently they told the bus driver that day to not go on our route and no one informed the parents. So I got to skip school without punishment, but still had to take the absence and make up work though it wasn't really my fault. I still remember that day so clearly and how excited I was to get a three day weekend out of it.
The reason they let her resign instead of firing her is simple. Unemployment. If you're fired, then there's a chance for her to have received unemployment depending on the state where this takes place. But if you voluntarily quit outside of a "constructive dismissal" instance (e.g. them not scheduling you to starve you into quitting) A secondary reason would be having to jump through any union processes if one was in place.
So what I'm hearing in the last story is OP would have had to walk home either way, because driving in that was not really an option for most. And staying to use a pay phone would have probably taken longer than the walk home, and needlessly endangered OP. Basically, that was the BEST possible course of action... other than the school paying attention and just not having school that day - it's not like hurricanes appear out of nowhere. And OP still got pizza and movies out of it! And a little petty revenge.
One thing to consider for companies still owning office buildings in 2023. If they have a contract to rent or own these buildings there may not be a buyer or clause to get out of a contract. So the business is stuck with it and trying to force employees to use them so they don't look like a complete drain on the company. Plus who wants to buy an office building anyway?
Last story: OP anyway couldn't call home even if he wanted to. The line to the payphone is very long. And even if OP could call... neither the parents nor the sitter could come to the school either because they couldn't drive through the weather due to poor/zero visibility and flooded roads. So he'd still have to walk all the way home. So OP getting the dad in hot water is unwarranted at the time.
The reason companies want their offices - tax write offs. That’s it. It’s a huge tax write off for em to save $$. Despite it in fact being a determent to their employee morale and productivity.
Jesus! When I was a teen in the early 00’s, they cancelled school if a hurricane was coming. The one time a hurricane changed course and hit our town during school, we all stayed in the building until it was over. I still remember crowding around the window of my art classroom, watching the road turn into a river as water poured down the hill. I did walk home after (I was 2 blocks away and it was faster than waiting for my parents to drive in) and had to step over fallen branches the size of my thigh.
In the days of no cell phones, I (14F) was in the high school marching band. Usually on an away game, we were back by 10 p.m. So, I told my parents 10:30. We had a flat on the bus and didn't get back to the school until 11. Dad was there furious because how dare I be late... and next time I could walk home (about 8 miles by the road) and never to call him again. Of course there's a next time. I locked my tenor sax up at the school, and walked home. I didn't call. I also didn't take the road because cutting through the woods was shorter. Mom made Dad go to the school, which by that time was empty and locked... he searched the road (and the ditch) for me. Nothing. I came bopping home to panicked parents. After they were done screaming at me, I pointed out I did exactly what I'd been told..I didn't call and I walked. Let's just say I was sent to bed and Dad got chewed out. I was told the next day to always call and they'd come get me. I told them I would but the first time I got screamed at for it ... I'd never call again.
@rSlash 02:30 The explanation is that in Europe, the employer is legally obliged to see that your primary workplace is compliant with work health and safety regulations, and(!) equipped with all things you need for the job, which includes furniture, like an ergonomically sound office chair, and Internet. The primary work place is the one where you spend the majority of your work time. So if you spend the majority of time working from home, your employer is legally required to consider your home as an office that they are responsible for. I think you can see the practical impossibility of this happening. During COVID, everyone looked the other way at this, and did not force employers to equip homes as offices with the rigour that regulations demand. But now that we are out of if, an employer that completely ignores this can get into a whole heap of trouble for not fulfilling their legal obligations. You do not [mess] with worker rights and employer obligations in Europe. The solution has in many places been to make the statement that the main workplace is indeed the office, but then not do any follow-up on it, playing ignorant and "assuming" people are complying with the instruction. The employer in the story apparently made the mistake of actually _enforcing_ the rule, or people were a bit too compliant for their own good. And, yes, I agree that this rule needs modernising to fit the postpandemic work-from-anywhere culture. Until then, problems like this will crop up where employers either need to cheat, or inconvenience the workforce.
I walked to school every day, rain, snow, blistering heat and uphill both ways. We ate dirt sandwiches for lunch, and WE LIKED IT! ...... sorry, I couldn't resist. Have a great day everyone.....
1st story, The whole point of forcing people to come to work is to make them miserable and keep them from being relaxed and making better decisions, they want cooperative monkeys that don't have much time to relax, on top of that, the managers or higher ups don't get to see their employees face to face and get off torturing them, it's not the same feeling over online platforms.
To parrot what's probably been said a few times about the first story, managers started calling for employees to stop working remotely because the lack of employees in the office over the last few years is exposing just how little most management is actually needed, and managers have been scared for their jobs.
Last story: I was the sort of kid who'd walk home through a hurricane because my dad told me no phoning home for help. Hell, I was the sort of kid who'd walk home in a hurricane because the alternative is ring my parents and ask to be picked up, and the phone scares me more than the hurricane. I'm the sort of adult who's learned nothing and would still walk home in a hurricane rather than interact with a bus driver. Thank fuck I live in a country that doesn't get hurricanes.
My only thing is how neglectful the school was in the last story, if there's a hurricane that's supposed to come through then it should always be a given that school is cancelled for the day given its extremely dangerous to go anywhere during a hurricane, even if its a cat one.
My “cherished childhood memory” day was a sick day, I got to rent the land before time 2 and watch it as many times as I wanted, and my mom made cheese soufflé. It’s like, so random and I recognize that the land before time 2 is not a good movie but the cover makes me smile because I remember watching it like 5 times when I was sick.
The reason for the companies insisting that workers come into the office is a simple but incredibly stupid one. They've invested millions in establishing offices so they need workers in them to justify the cost of running and maintaining them, even though they wouldn't have to worry about those costs if people worked from home and they sold/rented the office. Yes it's circular logic but what do you expect from upper middle management types. An argument could be made for promoting company image but honestly that's still a weak ass excuse.
Story Two: A classic "Play Stupid Games" the idea that Michelle didn't think that they'd be able too look at her online activity is the height of stupidly, then to make extra enemies & not expect backlash. I DO understand why they let her quit instead of immediately firing her, when she quits that keeps her from her having any claim of "unwarranted dismissal," & collecting unemployment on their dime.
The Karen in the third story was being stupid. It’s not the OP’s fault that the hospital was moving to a computer system. If anything, she’d be the one who impacted the hospital’s performance if she couldn’t use the computer.
Getting written up for dressing ‘inappropriately’ is SUCH an aggravating experience! The same thing happened to me as well… Long story short, I worked in a call centre with no face-to-face customer interaction, and had been working there for over ten years at this point. During one ‘casual Summer’, where the dress code goes from business casual (dress pants, collared shirt, dress shoes) to actual casual wear (t-shirts, shorts, jeans, sandals etc.), I had my manager pull me into a meeting. She told me that “[I] was dressed inappropriately [for casual summer].” I laughed to myself, because that day I was wearing a long sleeve buttoned up collared shirt, dress pants and close toed dress shoes. It’s the exact same outfit I’ve worn when executives come down and we need to dress formally, and I had no complaints. I thought my manager was going to tell me that I need to loosen up, that I’m dressed too warmly for the weather and that it’s okay to dress casually in the summer. …NOPE! I was told, “you’re showing too much skin”, when literally only my hands, the top of my neck and face were showing. I was given a verbal write up and was told if it happened again that I could be fired, despite having tenure. I mean seriously, wtf?! I maliciously complied to both the casual Summer and business casual dress code from then on.
That last story reminds me of something similar happen to me but I didn't have a happy ending. I was 8 years old and it was late fall or early winter. I lived in a small village and I was in a chess club that played at 6pm to 8pm at the edge of the village. I lived about 40-45 minutes walk away. It was pitch dark and pouring like the world was going to flood. I walked home and was completely drenched when I got back. When I came in my mom only asked; "Where have you been?" After that I started biking there instead cause I knew she didn't care enough to remember to pick me up so I'd rather bike home instead of walk home in the dark. It was NOT SAFE AT ALL for such a young kid to be out there on their own, I tell you that. Like I said. Not a very happy ending. My mom drove me there but kept forgetting to pick me up again and the last time it was
I'm guessing the reason the big bosses refused to let people work from home is because they were already locked into the building rental contract and needed some use for it or they'd have wasted their money.
@rSlash to answer your questions "why make people work from the office and not the home?" - - - You can't install green initiatives, recycling measures of office equipment, justify cars with jobs, good HR and office standards in peoples personal home. If a company cant install these things then how are they going to get their tax back for green and recycling and HR inclusive initiatives to give themselves the bonuses at the end of the year?
Similar to hurrican story I walked home in a bad snow storm. Usually I stay late at school that day for club which hadnt been canceled so I didnt take the bus. My house wasnt far from the school (like just far enough to be on the bus route but not far enough that its to far to walk. Well i walked home. Had to take shelter at a safe home (a house kids can go to if they feel unsafe, and it was one of my friends house). I also chose to walk because i didnt want to be alone with my stepfathee who had sassualted me when i was in middle school. So i always chose to walk home over being left with him, that and he was very strict on if i had more then one club i had to find my own way home. My parents were not happy that i walked when i got home as my mom was home also from work early. Honestly i dont think i even had a missed call on my cell from my parents.