This video proves how good God is. One can read the scripture and know the scripture word for word and yet still don’t get what the heck it’s saying. If you understand what the scripture is saying, be thankful that God put the understanding in your heart.
Going from Sam and JP disowning eachother a week ago to making amends and being on-call Theology bro's giving jawline complinents has gotta be the highlight of this summer 😂💯
The issue for oneness believers is that they come from a tradition anemic in philosophy. They do not understand the difference between persons and beings. Also, that oneness wanted all of his injections into scripture to be accepted but accused others of doing just that and refused to accept those injections.
Ungodly nonesense. Mocking and arguing and bullying. Pure carnal argumentative ego and no holy spirit. Even debates ought to be conducted in the spirit of Christ as a true born of God believer. The bridled tongue is a sign of one born of the almighty.
My goodness the arrogance on this heretic, the audacity for him to say “that proves you don’t know what your talking about” i had to pause it and collect myself together
I just turned this on. I don't understand why it's so hard to understand that angels are messengers and if he's quoting what the most high is saying, how is that an angel usurping the most high?
because he speaks in the first person and only god can speak about god in the first person well that would be the case if only the angel did it lol. Moses speaks as YHWH himself in Deuteronomy 29:1-6
@@johnpratts2856 I can argue the same thing about angel of the lord quoting YHWH despite speaking in the first person, the second verse of deuteronomy 29 says moses is speaking not YHWH there is no indication of different speakers speaking as there is only one person speaking to the assembly of israelites and yes YHWH commanded moses to speak as in the first person as YHWH in verses 5 and 6 if verse 1 is to be taken literally
@@aspreedacore No need to argue. The Angel does speak in BOTH quoting YHVH and speaking as YHVH. Because He is YHVH. Moses on the other hand, is obviously the narrator of the Torah, being influenced by the Holy Spirit writing these words, to record the events that happened when he was teaching the Israelites. He never speaks as YHVH as if he's YHVH. No metaphors here.
Did dude try to run to Isaiah 43:13 to prove no one can reverse God's orders to me that proves the point that the angel of the lord is God since he did reverse the order or am i missing something
He has no clue that you guys were accepting HIS interpretation and showing the contraction, but he said "your premise is false"... Haha bro they used YOUR premise.
My last comment here to clear some people’s misunderstanding I see in the comments. 15 And the angel of the Lord called to Abraham a second time from heaven 16 and said, “By myself I have sworn, declares the Lord, because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son, // Here in this verse we see the angel saying “by myself I have sworn, declares the Lord…..”. “The Lord” there is YHWH in the Hebrew. I demonstrated in the first part of another part of this video where I was speaking to a guy named Alex on how YHWH is NOT Jesus. So that’s an open and shut case right there. But even going further, Coupled with the fact that angels are messengers (which a messenger is a messenger of somebody so they can’t be the same person they are messenger of logically speaking), the angel carried YHWH authority and message and that’s why the message that came involved YHWH Himself swearing. Angels are created beings, YHWH is creator. It’s why I mentioned trinity doctrine, because it has messed a person up if they don’t understand and know God but accepts trinity to read the Bible from that lens. So simply, the sacrifice was to God as in verse 1 God said to Abraham to sacrifice Isaac as a burnt offering. Burnt offerings are to God. The angel/messenger was only relaying the message. Lastly, I don’t really support NLT but on this particular verse I think they have it right - 25 At that time Jesus prayed this prayer: “O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, thank you for hiding these things from those who think themselves wise and clever, and for revealing them to the childlike. Amen. May the one true God, the Heavenly Father of Jesus the Messiah guide the humble, those who really tremble at His word and respect Him to not put unbiblical traditions of man over His word and correction. ✌️
@@williamburlando7972 facts. The Father, the Word/Angel, & Their Holy Spirit = YHWH yet we see all throughout the OT that they are distinct, sometimes explicitly in the same scene at the same time. I thought the Trinity was confusing until I went back to the story of Abraham; changed my life. 👑✝️🕊
The moderators need mentorship and to understand that they are potentially doing just as much harm as the good they think they are doing. Who on the outside would listen to this and say “hey I want to be like them”? I’m praying for y’all.
"hey, I want to be like these guys: knowledgeable in the word and confident to speak to others" There, I've said it. It's sad. We read scripture, you argue. We bring logic and you reject it. We sing, you refuse to dance; we plead and you refuse to listen Then you come to the comment section to cry. Please harden not your heart.
To be fair, he never rage quits. That is a false claim. You removed him twice from the platform. I believe rightfully so because he was an absolute moron who ran from scscripture over and over again. But to be fair, he was removed. He didn't rage quit.
Exodus 23. I believe is the Holy Spirit. Our Lord Jesus Christ says “ all blasphemies can be forgiven except blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” I could be incorrect!
“The Angel of The Lord” it is God! Know, I do not know if it is God the Father, God the Son or God the Holy Spirit. Now, I have to be very careful….i think it’s our Lord Jesus Christ but I do not know because the Scripture doesn’t tell us! Blessings!
Revelation 2:18 And to the angel of the church in Thyatira write. The destination of this letter is to the angel of the church in Thyatira. The Greek name Thyatira means "continual or perpetual sacrifice" and for that reason it is a fitting description of the church of the Dark Ages. It was during this period that the Roman Catholic doctrine of the "continual sacrifice" in the mass was developed. Meaning of Thyatira: 'Perpetual sacrifice' - a pointer to the continual sacrifice and unceasing mass of the Roman Catholic church instead of Jesus' one sacrifice for all sins, for all time! (Heb 9:28, 10:10-14) Jesus introduces Himself to this church as the Son of God. More often than not He used the title 'Son of man' but here it is Son of God. Hmmm - why? This letter has references to Psalm 2 which speaks of Jesus as the Son of God. It also relates to the historical/prophetic fulfillment of this letter. The church in Thyatira speaks of the age under the Roman Catholic church. It is an age of idolatry and one aspect of that was the exaltation and worship of Mary as 'the Mother of God'. Even though the Bible is clear that there is only one mediator between God and man, Jesus Christ, the dark ages saw Mary exalted into the role of mediator, then co-redeemer and 'Queen of Heaven' - almost as if she is the 4th member of a three person trinity! So this title of Jesus is a reminder that He is God. He is the Son of God. The focus should not be on anyone else. He also says He has eyes like blazing fire and feet like burnished bronze. Simply put, this is not someone to mess with, replace, or be on the wrong side of! Ten false doctrines were introduced into the Church. First, justification by works, not simply by faith. Secondly, baptismal regeneration, that a person is saved by baptism. Thirdly, the worship of images. Fourthly, celibacy; forbidding priests to marry a further distinction between clergy and laity. Fifth, confessionalism; that sins are confessed to a priest who then declares absolution of those sins. Sixth, purgatory; a place of confinement which i neither Heaven nor Hell, but a place where one has to be "refined" before going into Heaven, hence sanctification was not complete at death. Seventh, transubstantiation; the concept of the continual and perpetual sacrifice of the Messiah. Eighth, indulgences; that through the giving of money, a person's time in purgatory could be reduced. Ninth, penance; involving the torment of the body in order to reduce one's time in purgatory. And, tenth, Mariolatry; the worship of the Virgin Mary, her elevation as the "mother of God" and the declaration of her deity. All this led to idolatry and spiritual fornication. Jezebel in Thyatira is the Roman Catholic Church within Christendom of the Dark Ages.
Trinitarians do not understand how agencies work That angel spoke for Jehovah God Abraham was gonna sacrifice his son to almighty God Jehovah not to the angel This was a vision what Jehovah God would do for mankind when he sends his only begotten son jesus for a ransom This actually disproves the trinity dogma in abrahams account
How about Genesis 18? Was this not Jesus? 18 And the Lord appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; 2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground, 3 And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:
What changed that makes you promote Shamoun? You decide his open disobedience to God and bad influence are all good now because he isn't coming after you? Makes no sense to me. Seems like popularity matters more than following the Lamb. in other words, what were your intentions at any point? Not righteous at all. Fail.
When you take Joshua 5:13-15; The Man here in this passage that commands the armies of heaven and on earth will later be found to be the commander in Revelation, who just so happens to be the Angel of the Lord; so let’s go through this. Joshua 5:13-15 13 And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, a Man stood opposite him with His sword drawn in His hand. And Joshua went to Him and said to Him, “Are You for us or for our adversaries?” 14 So He said, “No, but as Commander of the army of the LORD I have now come.” And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and worshiped, and said to Him, “What does my Lord say to His servant?” 15 Then the Commander of the LORD’s army said to Joshua, “Take your sandal off your foot, for the place where you stand is holy.” And Joshua did so. When you go to Revelation 19:11-16, and also verse 19 it tells you exactly who that commander of that army is; it’s “The Word of God.” Revelation 19:11-16 and 19 11 Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. 12 His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He hadfn a name written that no one knew except Himself. 13 He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean,fn followed Him on white horses. 15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharpfn sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. 19 And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who was sitting on the horse and against his army. Verse 19 is important because it shows that the army is “his.” Now notice in Exodus 3:1-6 The Angel of the Lord appears to Moses in a flame of fire from the midst of a bush, look specifically at the request of the Angel of the Lord in verse 5 and then compare it to the request of the Angel of the Lord in the above verses from Joshua, specifically verse 15. Exodus 3:1-6 1 Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian. And he led the flock to the back of the desert, and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. 2 And the Angel of the LORD appeared to him in a flame of fire from the midst of a bush. So he looked, and behold, the bush was burning with fire, but the bush was not consumed. 3 Then Moses said, “I will now turn aside and see this great sight, why the bush does not burn.” 4 So when the LORD saw that he turned aside to look, God called to him from the midst of the bush and said, “Moses, Moses!” And he said, “Here I am.” 5 Then He said, “Do not draw near this place. Take your sandals off your feet, for the place where you stand is holy ground.” 6 Moreover He said, “I am the God of your father-the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look upon God. Let’s go back to Revelation 22:6-9 and look at the comparison in the request of THIS Angel in comparison to the Angel of the Lord in the above verses; notice this Angel doesn’t want John to kneel before him where… the Angel of the Lord on the other hand accepts being knelt down to and tells them to take their sandals off. Revelation 22:6-9 Then he said to me, “These words are faithful and true.” And the Lord God of the holyfn prophets sent His angel to show His servants the things which must shortly take place. 7 “Behold, I am coming quickly! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book.” 8 Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things. 9 Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God.” If you need more confirmation of this? Saint Stephen tells you in Acts 7:35-38 that the Angel who was in the bush was also the one who God sent to be the ruler and a deliver.
That Pyara dude is impossible, Correct me if I missed anything but it appeared to me that he pretty much said "your wrong, because this other verse says this".... but didnt deal with the text at hand. I mean if the verse doesn't say what I think it says then tell us what its really saying. He said Radar was inferring and pre supposing things into the text but It seemed he was doing the same thing. I'm biased to the Trinitarian position but that Isiah verse just supported the Trinitarian position. He said God Gives authority to whoever He wills. Yes He does. Does He also give glory to whom He wills? Does He share His glory? 1+1=2, Just read the text.
19:00 bro this guy really said this? This is literally what Hebrews 11 says “By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac, and he who had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, of whom it was said, “In Isaac your seed shall be called,” 👉concluding that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead, 👈from which he also received him in a figurative sense.” Hebrews 11:17-19 What Radar was saying was lining up with scripture but this guy said that this was “tradition”…YIKES
I’m in 19 minutes in and this guy, because of his arrogance, is not realizing he’s proving Radar’s point. He thinks he knows but is showing he knows nothing. Poor guy!! Lord have mercy on him like you did with me. In Jesus name, Amen!!
26:00 I can tell he stayed or left because Moses’ account clearly says before us that it is the angel who appeared to him out of the bush (v. 2) and the angel speaking out of the bush (v. 4)
@@criminaltotheworld3154 he csnt and it says 3 angels appeared to abraham It literally tells u the 3 men were angels and 1 of the angels was Jehovahs messenger But yet when trinitarians see 3 they yell trinity lol
@@AstariahJW “And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre… the LORD said unto Abraham. “. It is literally plainly saying that God spoke and appeared unto Abraham, brought 2 messengers with Him, they had a conversation in human form. The Old Testament has soooo many references to God appearing as a man, or messenger. Who is this messenger that seems to have the authority of God? It is too clear, the Son of man etc…. All pagans do is copy God and His teachings, they even created hybrid spiritual being as nephilim as it says in Genesis 6, Jesus being the first God man, as God in the flesh…. These are copied by pagans, the reason why pagans get their doctrine is from the fallen ones, who knows of heavenly things of God
@@AstariahJW angels usually appear as men, but YHWH appears as an angel numerous times, I thought God was invisible, so why is He being seen, here’s an analogy you might like, in a video game , the characters can’t see me, so I make a profile and enter into the game controlling my character. You see the video game is a different dimension from me the player.
You terrible JP, HE ANSWERED THE QUESTION! Then y’all didn’t get the rabbit trap yall wanted and then he has to come back to it again!!!😂😂😂 yall sick Bro!!!
You’re off on this. The question was how do you reconcile Genesis 22, if the angel of the lord is not God? His answer was you’re wrong because in isaiah no one can change Gods command. But, that supports Radar’s point because he is saying that the angel of the lord is God, which is why he is able to stop Abraham. He was proving the trinity without even realizing it.
@@tenshiman1490 Why ''the son of god'' is not seen in 1 Kings 22:19-22? thats the Council of Heaven and you can read that only angels were there.. If Jesus is so important and the ''whole Tanakh mentions and points to him'' then why these verses doesn't mention him in the Council of Heaven
And dealing with Hebrews verse that mentions Abraham believing God could raise his son from the dead, there is something called PaDReS. It’s a mode of interpretation. The author of Hebrew could have been interpreting that like that, but Bible doesn’t say he was prophesying or speaking divine revelation. My point is, it wasn’t in genesis text that Abraham thought God would resurrect the boy. It’s an assumption and the Hebrew author could have been applying one of the PaDReS mode of interpretation. Other than that, I think the small debate speaks for itself and proves trinity is false if we measure it by the texts in question.
If you were the person on the panel and was bobbing and weaving the way that coward was…you need to get out of this comments section. If you don’t think Jesus is God. How could Jesus be savior but there is no savior but Yah. Your arguments are childish and irrelevant bc you don’t believe the bible at what it says. Take your heresy back to the grave yard where it belongs.
@@Pyara-q9n Please, in addition to the references shown to you in the discussion, read Genesis 28, the story of Jacob @ Bethel (House of God) and then read *Genesis 31* , especially verses *11-13* and see what the Angel says. And then Jacob's blessing of Ephraim & Manessah in *Genesis 48:14-16*. The Angel of the LORD is YHWH by Jacob's words, according to Moses who is telling the story of Jacob. The Angel said He is ' *the God of Bethel* ' & Jacob agrees, as does Moses. Why dont you? How do you reconcile the passages I quoted? Please, take your time to read them. I ask these questions sincerely.
Radar is unable to give arguments without putting down the other party ad hominem. It’s a huge turn off and indicative that he doesn’t have much fear of God. It’s very hard to listen to.
@@johnscott7937who’s my boi? I don’t have a horse in this race, and this isn’t the first radar video I’ve seen. This is just the first one I’ve commented on. He is atrocious regarding attacks on his opponents, and not in a good way. Hes just interested in attacking character instead of the theology. He’s not respectful and here the “moderator” is obviously in cahoots with his M.O.
Bro what? Radar was nothing but patient with the dude. He kept tap-dancing. That dude was bobbing and weaving like he was Canelo. His failure to address Genesis 22 directly shows how HE doesn’t fear God. And Radar was simply exposing that fraud for who he is. Radar was mild at best.
