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Railways in Australia; Derailment and rerailing 

Rod Williams
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A walk around at a minor derailment and video of some of the rerailing process.

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@leokimvideo
@leokimvideo 14 лет назад
Love that area mid way where you see how clunky the wheels are when not on the rails...nice!
@arnoldthompson481
@arnoldthompson481 10 месяцев назад
I worked on a railroad 44 years and someone came up with a great idea to rerail cars that saved us a lot of time and work. It was a pair of steel bars tapered from 0 to just about rail height. They were about 2 inches thick. It was fast and easy to place one of those inside the rail sitting on the base and as soon as the wheel got onto it
@gazdeb80
@gazdeb80 5 лет назад
When i worked for QR. We had a thing to attach to the rails that had a ramp on. For re-railing carriages. Also had a clamp to bring the rails back into the right gauge again.
@6977warrior1
@6977warrior1 5 лет назад
The train derailed again 4 days later in the same spot.
@grumblesaw4415
@grumblesaw4415 10 лет назад
I liked this. I can remember as a kid in the 70's my POP, got a 44 back on the track near the silo's at THE ROCK. He had a day off but got the Fettlers to put the sleepers under the front and reversed it while the others were waiting for the old yellow crane from Junee. He got out, went home, and poured a beer.
@Jazzdog5
@Jazzdog5 4 года назад
"Luckly No one was hurt" - Thomas seasons 1-6
@Greenfluent1
@Greenfluent1 2 года назад
Lol
@vrfan
@vrfan 11 лет назад
Thanks for uploading this one Rod. Interesting view you don't normally see of getting it back on the rails.
@MUNCHLAXSNORLAX22
@MUNCHLAXSNORLAX22 14 лет назад
This video was really great Rocketboy1950! It was amazing to witness the recovery process of rerailing the bogies. Two thumbs up, a very rare capture of something you don't see often.
@TrevsOutbackandGoldAdventures
@TrevsOutbackandGoldAdventures 7 лет назад
Great video.Very interesting .Love your work.
@gragrn
@gragrn 14 лет назад
I'd never seen that done before, fascinating! Thanks Rod.
@thevandal4518
@thevandal4518 7 лет назад
I still love the look of that era of engines stream line sleek powerful they are just easy on the eye in a time when now looks are more important than performance and still these look better than anything out now
@Rocketboy1950
@Rocketboy1950 14 лет назад
It is a low speed freight line which is not maintained or inspected to anything like the standard of a main line. Having said that I agree that the system is a mess.
@Rocketboy1950
@Rocketboy1950 10 лет назад
It is a very heavy metal ramp that fits over a rail and allows a wheel to be dragged up to a point at which it will drop back into position on the track.
@haroldreardon8070
@haroldreardon8070 8 лет назад
Simon, unfortunately the wheels come up on the blocks ( which are not placed long enough ) and drop back on the ground while the rear wheel is coming up. All the blocks were a waste of time therefore. The wheels rerailed when they got to the concrete road crossing. Maybe someone needs a tape measure next time. And yes, I have rerailed cars.
@michaelmcneil4168
@michaelmcneil4168 6 лет назад
What gradient if any was there and which way was the train running? It seems to me that the rail will always fail on the side that the escapement from gyroscopic nutation sends it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hVKz9G3YXiw.html www.cleonis.nl/physics/phys256/gyroscope_physics.php When a disturbing torque is applied while the body is rotating such that the rotation axis describes a cone, with the vertical through the vertex of the body as axis of the cone, and the motion of the rotating body is perpendicular to the direction of the torque.
@kipdon
@kipdon 5 лет назад
W U T T ? (the hell did you sayeeee?!?!) -:)
@okzoia
@okzoia 14 лет назад
Best damn rerail video ever!! Good job, and hope to see some more.
@ozzirt
@ozzirt 13 лет назад
Thanks Rocketboy, a nice video showing something most of us never see.
@aprc1977a
@aprc1977a 10 лет назад
I was sitting on a railway wall years ago watching trains pass, We heard the train from a distance and it sounded horribly deafening, as it got nearer we could see smoke towards the back end. The loco and 1st few wagons were ok but then we could see the last 20 odd cars with wheels about 1ft off. The smoke was the wheels chewing the sleepers and crushing ballast while travelling about 25-30 in a cutting on a steep gradient which made a frightening sound.such an awesome sight. cool video though
11 лет назад
Quite unique rerailing method.
@mrepichotdog86
@mrepichotdog86 11 лет назад
This is a great video Rocketboy1950! I am a collector of Railway Digest (for those who don't know what it is, it's a railway magazine in Australia) and i see locomotive S303 alot in them. I see that these sleepers are wooden so this must be a grain siding i suppose? It obviously doesn't get much attention, so (it's just a guess) while the train was rolling over this railway the track rolled and spread. So the train derailed.
@flammabletube
@flammabletube 14 лет назад
thanx for your reply I remember years ago they used to have a special peice of equipment that was called a rerailer made of steel I think it was placed in front of the derailed wheels and formed a sort of ramp that the wheels ran onto and onto the line maybe some of the old rail men will remember them but they were standard equipment back then
@EvaristeWK
@EvaristeWK 11 лет назад
So freakishly cool
@slinkeepy
@slinkeepy 11 лет назад
quality, fascinating video, thanks
@wezza60
@wezza60 5 лет назад
I remember being in the cab of C501 backing up in the SG road to the turntable at Seymour when the trailing bogie(or truck for any americans) did the same thing, in the dirt big time!!
@Rocketboy1950
@Rocketboy1950 14 лет назад
I think that they are still down the back on GM's and CL's. I certainly remember them. Most likely only used in remote locations for minor mishaps.
@trainman2816
@trainman2816 13 лет назад
Very neat video!
@khirojsahu_24
@khirojsahu_24 3 года назад
Great Work 🔥
@DaveWVideo
@DaveWVideo 12 лет назад
When a train goes on the ground here in the States, many times they will use a "re-railing frog" which is a steel plate angled back to the rail. It catches the flange and forces it back up onto the track. It serves the same purpose as the wood used in the segment at 2:40.
@1madaboutguitar
@1madaboutguitar 12 лет назад
Cool... that was interesting to watch, great vid
@mikldude
@mikldude 13 лет назад
good clip , i always wondered how they get these back on the tracks, and i wonder how often this happens that we don`t hear about ?
@Rocketboy1950
@Rocketboy1950 11 лет назад
This was built as an A7 and modified to become an A16C. It has six powered axles.
@d6612jam0
@d6612jam0 13 лет назад
I worked for the Santa Fe, and Burlington Northern as a freight brakeman/ conductor for 20 years. The device your thinking about is called a frog. Used it quite a few times in cars jumping track in industrial parks, or splitting a switch. Derailments are usually a wheel looses it's press on a axle, wheel bearing goes, axle or wheel breaks, dragging equipment, or engineer going too fast for track condition.
@ac83052
@ac83052 11 лет назад
Oh. Thank you for the help.
@NisMopar06
@NisMopar06 11 лет назад
Good old aussie hardwood.
@pwalpar
@pwalpar 12 лет назад
excellent video
@Trainbrain1949
@Trainbrain1949 14 лет назад
Those are still carried on branchline trains in the USA. A number of years on the Rock Island Railroad the tracks were so bad they even had derailments of standing trains.
@CardboardSliver
@CardboardSliver 11 лет назад
A vid of a small crew re-railing a Norfolk Southern SD40-2 led me here. Interesting to see how it's the same all around the world.
@montysmontevilledccvictori4238
@montysmontevilledccvictori4238 11 лет назад
Sweet saw the silos in the back!
@Hellfire0220
@Hellfire0220 9 лет назад
even with a model train kit its a royal pain to put it back on the tracks somehow this seems easier
@Rocketboy1950
@Rocketboy1950 12 лет назад
We never used screws in Australia. The real issue here was probably rotted sleepers that allowed the spikes to give and spread the rails. It's only a 15km/h freight line with almost no traffic these days. As a result it doesn't get much attention.
@mickryan2450
@mickryan2450 Год назад
Screws were used on mbasin job
@Rocketboy1950
@Rocketboy1950 10 лет назад
We have few derailments. This one was on a poorly maintained very low speed freight only line.
@ianbeaton2399
@ianbeaton2399 6 лет назад
NHS
@laverdadesmejor
@laverdadesmejor 5 лет назад
FEW ???? I'm glad your not in the airline business.
@arnoldthompson481
@arnoldthompson481 3 года назад
We had some tools made for this type of spread rail and it was very simple. A pair of steel slabs cut like a tear drop sort of about 25 5o 35 inches long and about 2 inches thick. use them in place of oak wedges an just place a tiny sliver of wood to keep the wheel from pushing the wedges. Sort of pin them down. The top of them needs to be tall enough for the tallest rails.
@hairybob67
@hairybob67 12 лет назад
l remember seeing this, it was the up end of Totty Yard, took me back years as seeing these old girls back on the rails reminded me of the mid 80's when they were a common sight out there as l had a perfect lookout from the Olex Tower
@jamabar
@jamabar 14 лет назад
i know its not a metro line but i generally dont read the herald sun, i normally get the age, but an amazing video interesting to see how they re-railed that rollingstock at the end
@user-ef4yf5fi2s
@user-ef4yf5fi2s 6 лет назад
Good video. Author, thank you! from Russia.
@Weeklydoseofrailways
@Weeklydoseofrailways 3 года назад
Well captured... Can I use this video in my train compilation video credit to you in video will be given..
@alfie9876
@alfie9876 13 лет назад
Looks like you guys still got straight plate wheels out there. I haven't see one in about 3 years on our railroad
@goodshipkaraboudjan
@goodshipkaraboudjan 4 года назад
As a QLD railwayman I thought - "yep, broad gauge, yep VIC, yep they've got no idea"! Tragic those two railwaymen died in their last derailment.
@Rocketboy1950
@Rocketboy1950 13 лет назад
@labhunter1 Generally about 76 tonnes but some grain cars are permitted 92 tonnes at a reduced speed on some lines.
@smoothfags20
@smoothfags20 5 лет назад
When this happens in Britain, the entire system shuts down for hours, sometimes for most of the day.But, when the system shuts down, its usually due to vandalism on signalling equipment.
@ac83052
@ac83052 11 лет назад
The cars with the yellow things on the wheels, do those have friction bearings?
@flammabletube
@flammabletube 12 лет назад
The Victorian Railways engines all used to carry the frogs but I guess since the break up I guess the different companies decided it was too expensive to carry them of course VR also used have their own breakdown crane trains allways ready in major yards ready to go at any time
@indridcold8433
@indridcold8433 4 года назад
What a vintage beauty.
@rtqii
@rtqii Год назад
Excellent.
@jinxiong1
@jinxiong1 13 лет назад
nice video Rocketboy, Thanks
@bkleijer
@bkleijer 14 лет назад
Thanx for sharing!
@alro2434
@alro2434 Год назад
Isn't the opposite wheel pushing its rail out & spreading the track gauge, so when this wheel goes on, the other side gets pulled off?
@EdwardChan.999
@EdwardChan.999 5 лет назад
Thomas pulled the breakdown train as quick as possible.
@arnoldthompson481
@arnoldthompson481 3 года назад
Long ago we used mobile cranes too but when they had to crawl over rails we ended up buying them new tires sometimes. They cost a lot.
@RedDogPhoto
@RedDogPhoto 12 лет назад
HAH! Nice re-railer! Also, when the shunters calls red light, it means RED LIGHT.
@Rocketboy1950
@Rocketboy1950 11 лет назад
It's actually the down independent goods line near West Footscray.
@MarkInLA
@MarkInLA 7 лет назад
Geez ! You'd think they'd have steel rerailing chocks similar to those common de-rails used to prevent cars rolling too near main.. Wood blocks !! My god how silly it looks !!
@MrJohn1966elliott
@MrJohn1966elliott 10 лет назад
Thanks for how to wagons return to right track.
@Rocketboy1950
@Rocketboy1950 12 лет назад
@DaveWVideo and I'm stuffed if I know why they aren't in use here. The Commonwealth Railways carried them on the locos that ran across the Nullarbor. They were a bloody long way from help out there.
@emdiesel63
@emdiesel63 7 лет назад
MaY I know the track gauge in the area where derailment happened please?
@JordysRailVideos
@JordysRailVideos 6 лет назад
5'3" (1600mm) Irish Broad Gauge, by the looks of the background, it's Tottenham yards located in the Western Suburbs of Melbourne, Australia
@adfgfds
@adfgfds 12 лет назад
@DaveWVideo We often use wood too actually. I think the reason being is because its easier to bring with you.
@flammabletube
@flammabletube 11 лет назад
The old Victorian railways used to carry them as well
@StevesProjects
@StevesProjects 11 лет назад
Interesting stuff
@labhunter1
@labhunter1 13 лет назад
Cool video. What is the maximum weight of your cars?
@Wooburnmusic
@Wooburnmusic 4 года назад
Good video.thankyou.
@SuperAgentman007
@SuperAgentman007 5 лет назад
2:14 they’re damaging the track more by driving The train still in the US they would check up the cars right away and put them back on the track not drive on and drag The train like that because all you’re doing is winding up spreading the track and tearing out spikes.
@QuebecCentral
@QuebecCentral 13 лет назад
THANKS FOR SHARING NICE !
@kosobat
@kosobat 11 лет назад
金属の擦れ合う音がいい味出してます。 素晴しい動画だ! Very nice!
@user-bt7zf8en5h
@user-bt7zf8en5h 9 лет назад
既に車輪が傷んでそう・・・・。 2:35、煉瓦らしき合成板での脱線を回復させても次々と粉々になりそうときも有るので、脱線を回復させることができないときも有ったけど、底に踏切が有ってて良かったです。
@ac83052
@ac83052 11 лет назад
Are all of the cars roller bearings?
@Rocketboy1950
@Rocketboy1950 13 лет назад
@WBDE Yep the passenger traffic was being flagged to slow down. As to the process, I was just watching and waiting to drive the thing away.
@FurryFailure
@FurryFailure 13 лет назад
LOL check out that burn mark on the bottom left corner of the engin where it rubbed on the track
@Rocketboy1950
@Rocketboy1950 11 лет назад
Ya gotta wonder. The old Commonwealth Railways carried one on each locomotive because they ran across such remote country with no help at hand for hundreds of miles.
@tomankt
@tomankt 14 лет назад
BTW, in Russian this equipment is called "frogs". A common things on industrial branches. And on narrow gauge railroads they usually kept 1-2 pairs of "frogs" on every locomotive, because there was a probability for a train about 50% to derail, or 50% not to derail, any time passing these some "ill" sites on the track (for example, some site with actual gauge 810 mm on 750 mm line :) ).
@WBDE
@WBDE 13 лет назад
Having done this a few times myself, but never alone, I know that rerailing equipment is a dirty, nasty, dangerous job. I just wonder why there was a gap in the wood cribbing and the concrete when the grain cars were being rerailed. And I am assuming that the passenger equipment on the adjacent tracks were operating under a slow order.
@montysmontevilledccvictori4238
@montysmontevilledccvictori4238 11 лет назад
Is that at Sunshine or Tottenham?
@robertgift
@robertgift 8 лет назад
Well done, closeup video! What incompetence at 2:40 and on. Couldn't see what would happen?
@laverdadesmejor
@laverdadesmejor 5 лет назад
INCOMPETENCE???? These are SKILLED railroad workers! That's why the railroad system in this country is always profitable!!!! 👎👎👎 😉
@Rocketboy1950
@Rocketboy1950 14 лет назад
You need to look at some more of my videos and those of the two featured sites that I have on the main page. The old locos are on hire and doing lots of main line running..
@sathyanarayanalingiah6915
@sathyanarayanalingiah6915 6 лет назад
re railing only two pairs of wheels are shown what happens to the other pairs
@Rocketboy1950
@Rocketboy1950 12 лет назад
Yes, that's exactly what I am saying. It varies but the advertising generates $300-$900 a month. A nice return for something that I was doing for a hobby anyway.
@Rocketboy1950
@Rocketboy1950 11 лет назад
Just immediately on the down side of the junction at West Footscray.
@trainbot1
@trainbot1 11 лет назад
In america we call the wheels that are hopping on the sleepers limping or hopping
@jaypatchy7723
@jaypatchy7723 5 лет назад
What was pulling it back on track ? Mule or donkey?
@dantemadden1533
@dantemadden1533 2 года назад
Your mum was pulling it
@labhunter1
@labhunter1 12 лет назад
@fnh8340 In the US 2,000 pounds (lbs.) equals 1 ton. Thus 286,000 lbs is 143 tons. If 286,000 pounds is converted to kilograms it is 129,727.41782
@wgw214
@wgw214 13 лет назад
So that's why there are rail crossoings not ony to have road crossing the rail but also to rerail a de-railed train thanks Buddy
@jdsweet3657
@jdsweet3657 11 лет назад
:D Looks like the track flipped over on the train Maybe they could add 3 or 4 rails per track to help balance it out.
@OwdBogger
@OwdBogger 12 лет назад
Looking at several of this type of video. The common factor seems to be the use of spikes instead of screws to hold the rail in place and that they have been knocked back in. Is this the same here. I think the practice was outlawed decades ago in Europe.
@iannickCZ
@iannickCZ 8 лет назад
Wood logs? I expected some more advanced gadget. BTW there is not any mention if some repairs on wagon or loco was needed.
@gijs.22
@gijs.22 7 лет назад
iannickCZ well i think the loco needed some repair didn't you see the plow
@iannickCZ
@iannickCZ 7 лет назад
I do not know what you mean...which plow?
@gijs.22
@gijs.22 7 лет назад
+iannickCZ i mean the snow plow on the front
@dantemadden1533
@dantemadden1533 2 года назад
@@gijs.22 what snow plow, this is Australia no trains run up the mountains to the snow, because no lines run up to the snow, if you want to go to the snow you need a truck, bus or car
@gijs.22
@gijs.22 2 года назад
@@dantemadden1533 after these 4 years i realised my stupidity lol
@Rocketboy1950
@Rocketboy1950 11 лет назад
The only solution to prevent derailments is to close down the railway. Derailments are caused by a multiplicity of factors and there is no solution.
@JBofBrisbane
@JBofBrisbane 11 лет назад
How would that help?
@ajdavis98775
@ajdavis98775 2 года назад
Other trains really don't slow down that much going through an derailment/accident scene
@RichardGMoss
@RichardGMoss 10 лет назад
Thanks
@Rocketboy1950
@Rocketboy1950 14 лет назад
On the goods line near West Footscray
@labhunter1
@labhunter1 12 лет назад
@fnh8340 Forgot to tell you we do not use the metric system for weight in transportation in the us.
@jerrybrewer7741
@jerrybrewer7741 8 лет назад
if the boards were slanted towards the rails, that might have worked
@Dfeneck
@Dfeneck 6 лет назад
It did work?
@trailwayt9H337
@trailwayt9H337 2 года назад
Good action👍
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