Ive had both transfer cases and elocker/limited slip for years and i would take the 4auto with the limited slip anyday. And i wheel lots. Having limited slip and being able to spin both rear tires at speeds higher then 30km is much better then locking at 30km and under. This isn't a rock crawler by any means.. lockers on the jeep, limited slip in the truck for the amazing doughnut ability.. dont anyone be upset about having the auto 4 wheel drive. Ive never been stuck in my trucks with it. Tires are much more crucial to equation
I'm pretty sure the air intake & exhaust likely increased power 10-15 HP though they don't advertise it & it likely gave it a slightly better torque curve
For a $3000 option I think the GT is a waste unless you want a console shifter and paddle shifters on a truck. People think my choice in the rebel vs the Laramie was a waste of about $4000 because of the color scheme I couldn’t get on the Laramie. To each their own.
Bought a fully loaded 23 gt. I love everything about it except maybe the feature where the brakes lock up if you get to close to someone whose turning say right into a driveway and you try to roll around them...freaks me out every time. But I agree with him. I wish the gt trim added more hp. But the shifter over a dial was totally worth it for me. The shifters I've only used for fun a few times but could really come in handy for towing if needed. I'm overall happy with my truck however the final price being $75k after a trade in was a bit much. My first new car purchase and probably could have negotiated more but oh well..I'm only 30 with a $75k truck I could afford to buy so I'll just take it as a win with a lesson learned as well
Alex, I agree RAM 🐏 should have bumped the HP! I know it's not advertised, but rumor has it that with the Cat-Back exhaust and the cold air intake, it's good for another 10-15 ponies. MoPar or NO car!
Great video. I just purchased one (no G/T). Im not a fan of the dial shifter myself but if you can live with it, throw on a cold air k&n conical set up, borla exhaust cat back and you have a G/T with a 48-12. Thats what im gonna do! 1 inch level kit and 35s coming as well. 😊
Watched yr video. I have a ‘17 1500, have U had any problems with the e torque? The last of these Rebels all have the e torque. This trim is new to me, girls like Rams too! Thx
I think there’s QUITE a few vehicles out there right now that are more capable off-road. I think you wanting Ram to push another vehicle into that already over saturated market is a little on the shortsighted side. Not everyone WANTS to take their $76k (US) truck out to MOAB and rock crawl, flip it over, thrash it. This isn’t THAT truck, no matter how badly you were hoping to get ALL the fancy nuggets that you wanted in a package that looks this good and at this price point. I get it. I’ve had the Tacoma, and I currently have a Jeep Wrangler. I live off grid on the top of a mountain in Montana. It’s VERY rough up here. But I just think that this truck is a capable fire-roader+, and handles pavement fantastically. Super comfortable, possibly THE most spacious & comfortable 1500 on the road. If you want all that other stuff, shell out the $30-60k (US) for the Raptor, pimp it out, and enjoy! But…at that price…not many could afford to do that or even WANT to take it off road. I’m adding this to my garage this summer. I’ll be towing with it & traveling all over the continent. And I won’t feel bad like I would in a Tacoma 🤣 👍🏼
14:45 power upgrade - a Rebel GT should be dyno-d ... RAM might have been chosing not to bother with the added HP so that they can save the paperwork. Buy or not? Not for this price. Add 4k and get a TRX. I agree that overall a standard Rebel will be the better choice for those not looking for a TRX.
I like the new RAMs but love the 4th gen, it's fancy enough for me but still feels like a truck, i wish i could get a Laramie 4th gen new.. i think they only make the 4th gen in a few packages (tradesman warlock etc.) Anyways the gt is very cool just not for me.. glad you're making new material Alex!
I think I might have nearly bought this GT at dobson right before I ordered my Power Wagon. It was a gray GT just like that one. I quite liked it but knew I'd regret not getting the Power Wagon. I did find the paddle shifts kind of sucked.
Speaking with a couple power wagon owners I can say this lol the power wagon makes the rebel look like a toy. the power wagon is just such a bigger stronger unit!
Totally agree with you. I find it Totally uninspiring. I'm not interested in a bunch of trim and bolt on pieces that aren't functional. And the center console shift is a big negative for me. Never cared for them.
When I was driving the truck honestly the center console shifter annoyed me. cup holders were far away. no place to put stuff idk just my opinion I guess. But overall yes, the G/T badge is a little over rated
I'm no expert but I am coming from Acura and SH-AWD and wish I hate a slip diff or 4wd auto. Where I live rains so much and my rear end slips so much on my rebel on turns and makes it look like I don't know how to drive unless I granny it. I have good tread (16ths of an inch) on 33" nitto ridge grapplers. Maybe city tires would help.
Greetings! I was thinking about buying a Rebel that doesn't have 4wd auto. I'm worried about how difficult it will be in winter on the highway and in the city. Or is it better to take all these with 4wd auto. The other day I drove a Limited configuration, in a snow-covered city in 4wd auto mode, the car behaves very stably. How to ride part-time in winter or on snow-covered tracks? Can you comment on this point?
When I think "GT," a single cab sport truck comes to mind. Not an offroad truck. I know the truck they built is more desirable than a regular cab. So you have to build for the market.
I was looking at buying the GT package until I watched this video and saw the performance difference between the 2 transfer cases. Then I started to look for a Rebel without the 4wd auto feature. Thanks for the informative video.
The G/T is tuned toward the pavement. Nothing wrong with it per se. the AWD 48-11 will give it better control and feel on the road. The 48-13 is where it’s at.
My biggest problem with the Rebel and Power Wagon trims are the drab black plastic drooping monopoly man moustache. That and the same cheap black plastic on the hood. It just cheapens it up so much. I don't like chrome any better but the sport trim without the sport hood seem to have the best look. In the interior though, those red accents are very nice.
To each their own I guess - I absolutely love the mustache grill on my Rebel, more so than the standard one on my old Sport. The only 5th Gen one that I think looks better is the 2500 Longhorn grille - gotta love that big rig vibe.
I chose the RTX over the Laramie, virtually identical builds but couldn’t get away from chrome or color matched bumpers with packages that I didn’t like how they changed. I like the black on my hydro blue
What do you think about losing the 4 corner air suspension in the GT trim? I’m debating on whether to get the Regular Rebel vs the GT (by the way I’m not really gonna use for off roading, mostly daily driving and possibly once in a while go to an off road trail).
My 2021 Ram Rebel has the auto 4wd option...so does it have the BW 48-12 T-case or the BW 48 -11? It's not a GT model, just a Rebel. Also, how could the new air intake and catback exhaust on the GT not have added any HP? That should have at least got it to 400 HP like the coyote 5.0.
Also, I understand your perspective on the transfer case but these arguments are always framed from the perspective of "what is the owner actually going to do with the truck". 98% of people are far better off with the auto transfer case especially when you live in Canada with snow. How many people actually rock crawl with a brand new half ton? "Better" is therefore "worse" for the overwhelming vast majority of people. Clutch pack slippage is not a thing in the real world. If someone like you buys this rebel to go offroad every chance they get, yep the non-auto transfer case is better. For guys like me who daily drive it, do a lot of towing and take their trailers down dirt roads or grassy slopes etc, the auto is the best option. And that is the vast majority of rebel owners.
I mean maybe. but if you don't need an "off-road" truck just buy a normal 4x4 1500. If you are buying the Rebel you might as well get the off-road focused transfer-case. like why have a rear locker then, most aren't going to need it either. For me It's about having the option and knowing that with the Rebel you are getting better equipment in case you need it. I will say though my power wagon and my old 96 chevy both with real transfer cases bite much better in the snow then my 17 ram 1500. they all had duratracs on them and it was very noticeable feeling the lag when in 4wd with the ram 1500. Either way, you have some good points and I appreciate the comment!
GMC x31 or trail boss have auto rear locker and front locker(g80 system or whatever they call it) Ford f150 tremor has rear locker and optional Torsen front diff. Ram needs a front locker option.
Why don’t the mirrors on my GT have the full width clearance lamp as seen on this truck in video? All mine has is a little light on the upper corner of the mirror. Does anyone know?
While i enjoy the reviews, i can say there is not much about a ram that interests me enough to buy one. I think the rebel is a cool look, but this gt package is pointless. And that whole exhaust system….why put that on that truck….cause im sure the sounds it generates when it drops into 4 cylinder mode is just oh so sweet….no thanks.
The "problem" is that even 4 low/high are engaged via the clutch. So in theory slip can occur in 4 low with this transfer case. In practice it appears to be a non issue, 4 auto has been in use in various trucks for many years now and it just works better for most people.
You have to base that on some facts. What we have, for example, is the Jeep GC with full time 4x4 using a similar clutch pack, and there are absolutely 0 issues with it. It's nice to make opinions based on theoretical problems, but in practice, there are like 0 issues with the 4auto which has been used in trucks now for many years too.
Great review of the GT but you forgot something that comes in the GT that most people would probably not want as an option. The E-Torque system that was introduced back in 2019 was a feature that is supposed to help give you a bit more torque off the line but with that came the ridiculous Start/Stop feature. I currently own a 2017 Dodge Durango GT and have never liked having it in my vehicle. I always forget that it's on everytime I start up and when it restarts the motor, it shutters the whole vehicle. Not to mention how much wear and tear it's probably affected my alternator. I believe the E-Torque motor is supposed to help reduce that initial shutter but I still believe it's still unnecessary to have since it doesn't help with fuel economy.
This truck did have that but I was not aware it came standard with the G/T package. that is a large turn off for me. the E-torque did does nothing in my opinion. I couldn't feel a difference and when I'm averaging like 11.5mpg pretty sure it does not matter lmao. thank you for the info sir!
Owner of e-torque model here. Its super smooth start-stop and also helps with city driving. I get 17 in the city and usually 20.5 on roadtrips. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another vehicle with e-torque. Plus it comes with an 8 year federal warranty.
I have a 2021 Ram 1500 Big Horn Quad Cab with the 3.21 gears and I can honestly say I wish it had the 3.92 gears. My little brother used it last year to haul his race car to the track one week since his truck was down and I know for a fact that with having the 3.21 gears it was more than likely at the maximum weight if not just little over. Needless to say in the future if I purchase another Ram 1500, I’ll be making sure it’s equipped with 3.92 gears.
The 3.92/3.21 is hugely misunderstood. All you gain with the 3.92 is a little more power from a dead stop. As soon as you're in second gear and beyond, the transmission changes your gear ratios, and both trucks have almost identical gear ratios available except when in a dead stop and when both are in 8th gear. In other words, when you're in the city, merging onto a freeway, or passing a trucker on a hill, there is absolutely zero difference in performance between those 2 options. You're best bet is to think of the 3.92 as an extra "granny gear". As soon as you're out of first, zero advantage.
@@timothywilson8526 The 3.92 has a higher tow rating because it can accelerate faster 0 to 60. But in the real world? 0 to 15 doesn't matter. I need more power on a freeway on ramp, or overtaking a trucker up a hill, in all those scenarios that matter both trucks will perform the same. It's a win on paper only. By all means get the 3.92 if you want to tow, but just remember that if you're unhappy with the 3.21 while towing you wont' notice any meaningful change when switching to a 3.92. These trucks have 8 gears, the transmission will drop as needed to put you in equivalent gear ratios.
This is completely wrong. 3.92 gears effect every gear. the ratio of second gear in the ZF 8 speed 3.14:1. with 3.21 gear ratio in second gear your FINAL Gear Ratio is = 10.1:1. With 3.92 gears in second gear (with a ratio of again 3.14:1) your FINAL Gear ratio is = 12.3: 1 you multiply the transmission gear ratio (3.14) by the differential gear ratio (3.21 or 3.92) and that's how you get your final drive ratio. I literally do this for a living and differential gear rations effect your final drive ratio on every gear. if you are going 100km/h down the highway a truck with 3.21 gears with be at a lower rpm then a truck with 3.92.
