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Ramos Dragon Engine Commander Deck Tech 

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@wavydigits8569
@wavydigits8569 5 лет назад
The concept is great, looking forward to making a 5-color cascade-storm
@Brandonyoungblood
@Brandonyoungblood 6 лет назад
I haven't even watched this yet and I'm so excited. I've been wanting to put together a Ramos deck for a while. Thank you for all of your commander content. This is my favorite Channel hands down!
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Thank you! It makes me so excited to create when I get comments like this. Cheers
@salamanteri_
@salamanteri_ 5 лет назад
My friend's Ramos won on turn 5 through disruption, he played Villainous Wealth X being about two hundred and copied it twice. Conflux tutoring Leyline of Anticipation is crazy strong.
@alexriley38
@alexriley38 8 месяцев назад
I like ramos he's in my top 5 favorite commanders. He's really versatile and pretty easy to build in just about any deck in my opinion.
@Jesup1204
@Jesup1204 2 года назад
Hi, I’m from the future. I found a copy of Ramos in a binder I had forgotten about and I’m looking to build an EDH deck with him as my commander. I like where this deck is headed and plan to us this video as a launch point.
@imaginarymatter
@imaginarymatter 6 лет назад
For alternate win conditions Mayael's Aria is a fun card.
@ClexYoshi
@ClexYoshi Год назад
If I was anywhere near any of these, it's multicolor goodstuff, although he's really my go-to +1/+1 commander, and my favorite commander of all time.
@BigScienceDP
@BigScienceDP 6 лет назад
This is the next deck I was planning to build! Thanks for the video and as always, great job
@kapiatgatas
@kapiatgatas 6 лет назад
Happy New Years Jumbo. The first time I played Ramos as my commander I won. The next 8 was a sorry lost. My 3 opponents would hit me right away with counter spells. They would hit my Hexproof and Shroud equipment's and enchantments right away. Every turn my life counters just drip...drip...drip. I changed my land cards and at most 50 lands than the usual 38. Somebody killed me with Bloodmoon, Armageddon and Winter Orb. The basic landcycling is a very good idea, just learned it now. I'll upgrade my deck.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Honestly, when you are getting targeted that badly you might end up losing no matter what deck you play. I'd let Ramos sit on the shelf a little while to "reset" your friends' perception of the deck.
@kapiatgatas
@kapiatgatas 6 лет назад
My solution is your Erebos commander deck. They hate it so much they target me right away. The problem is I cast a card it targets all opponents closely Myriad.
@cwil135
@cwil135 Год назад
I often use Ramos to cover color identity of tribals. My Slivdrazi Commander deck uses Ramos as the cover.
@jtizzle450
@jtizzle450 6 лет назад
hey there, I personally love Ramos and he is my favorite general, but due to him being an artifact i rarely get to keep him on the battlefield. Our decks are similar except for i went multicolored baddies/charm instead of spellslinger style. I'm glad you mentioned door to nothingness, but you missed out on Legacy weapon - probably my favorite card in the deck. Merciless eviction is a great day saver that you can fetch with conflux if you're in dire need of board wipage. I personally included maelstrom archangel, you don't get the cast triggers but you get to put anything on to the battlefield, Scion for the EZ 5 counters, and the new Ur-dragon (again you put permantents onto the battlefield but the card draw is decent) - these last two work well with the dragon synergy with taigam/crux of fate. Also you mentioned drawing cards being an issue, i would recommend the Tamiyo field researcher PW - she is 3 colors and give you draw. Also, Captain Sisay works wonders with fetching any of the big baddies it would take to win. Would love to go Ramos v. Ramos v. Ramos v. Ramos with you and some other willing participants one day because i do believe he is the most flexible general out there.
@RichardMichaelOwen
@RichardMichaelOwen 6 лет назад
Such a great and versatile commander. For mana base you can include City of Brass, Command Tower, Exotic Orchard, Forbidden Orchard, Gemstone Mine, Mana Confluence and Opal Palace among any combination of duals or tri lands. I run Tendo Ice Bridge as a pet card.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Good stuff here, mana will be an issue ... or we can just hope ramos does all the fixing for us?!?!
@japesgrapes1196
@japesgrapes1196 5 лет назад
This’d be so fun in a jodah deck 😩
@thrashingrhino3212
@thrashingrhino3212 6 лет назад
With maelstrom nexus you get the 5 counters on ramos pass turn remove cou ters cast spell cascade, they bith say each turn. As long as you get 5 counters on ramos by the next players turn you can keep casting spells with that 10 mana ritual
@smargio
@smargio 6 лет назад
What a lovely commander Oh and I really liked the video. It reminded me of a friend's deck.
@KeiruKeiru
@KeiruKeiru 6 лет назад
Moving forward, any deck that functions reasonably well without casting the commander will be tucked under Ramos. It could be five color nekusar. Mono green elves. Infect beatdown. Planeswalker tribal. But the opponent will never be able to know by just looking at the commander. It shall be called "Box of Chocolates". B/c you never know what you're going to get.
@zanerich9460
@zanerich9460 6 лет назад
KeiruKeiru also you would have a decent flyer if you don't have anything else to cast that turn. Since he requires only colorless mana
@PsychoEditor
@PsychoEditor 2 года назад
Thank you again
@PerfectPencil
@PerfectPencil 6 лет назад
This looks like so much fun! Just dropped that tapped out list into tcg player.... with just a few cuts it is pretty affordable.
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 6 лет назад
I 'd suggest Lair lands as budget
@vileluca
@vileluca 6 лет назад
What did the price come to?
@xakuyer
@xakuyer 6 лет назад
Commander is so fun, for its variety of combinations, and all the new cards each year ! There are so many things I want to try out, an dI dont know wich one to do firsttttttt
@nikopakalen7342
@nikopakalen7342 6 лет назад
If you add one time warp effect to a ramos list it will make conflux usually a win with one counterspell backup, also tutor to time warp effect is easiest storm enabler since there will be some regrowths
@nikopakalen7342
@nikopakalen7342 6 лет назад
it is actually hard to build a spell deck and avoid combo wins with ramos, so many staples accidentaly win you the game with all that mana
@kapiatgatas
@kapiatgatas 6 лет назад
On your tapped out. "Mayael's Aria" card. First time to see this card. Few of my decks that has Black includes "Dark Depths". I'm afraid if I cast counter removal cards so I can create Marit Lage, it does not synergized or its counteracts Ramos.
@Theorak
@Theorak 6 лет назад
I love Inexorable Tide, will build Ramos soon with more counter heavy strategy, basically adding half a Atraxa Deck.
@michaelatkinson88
@michaelatkinson88 6 лет назад
I'm still working my way up to 5 color, I just got to 3! 😂 Great vid!
@groovygorgar8408
@groovygorgar8408 5 лет назад
Hey DJ, I know it's been a while but I'm curious if you've played this deck enough to say if it still holds up. Just got a Ramos yesterday and wanna consider this style of deck
@notimeleft1
@notimeleft1 4 года назад
Groovy Gorgar dude I want superfriends and it played like a dream. I love it
@Bitcloud0
@Bitcloud0 6 лет назад
This is pretty funny. I'm just finishing up a conversion from goodstuff to spellslinger based on cloven casting as well. Some great ideas here
@Bitcloud0
@Bitcloud0 6 лет назад
Also Conflux into omniscience, then play the other 4 cards is quite fun
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Oh that's a really, over-the-top, fun line, one of the searched for cards can be recursion so you can cast Conflux over again. This has to just win the game. Amazing sequence! Thanks
@tonyontilt3522
@tonyontilt3522 6 лет назад
magus of the mind seems great here, more mana up front but 1u, x plus one the turn you activate.
@CorruptionAura
@CorruptionAura 6 лет назад
Wish i could get out to the gp. Would be a spectacle to watch
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 6 лет назад
Ramos is amazing but I stuck with my Ur Dragon as commander and Ramos as one of the 99. Mind's Dilation is so fun, I use that in my Lazav deck. Ramos synergizes really well and it is funny how big it can get, most the time when Ramos is out the game quickly snowballs out of control from the mana production. Looking over the decklist I would recommend (for budget players) to get all the Lairs!, they make it so much easier in making 5 colour decks and you can as a player tap mana, return land when playing lair and then tap the lair of more mana so your not to far behind in mana production and finally Dragons, Lairs do I need to write more vorthos wise?:P
@nickfitzpatrick5878
@nickfitzpatrick5878 6 лет назад
Ramos commands the gatewatch. Super friends
@XavierGranville
@XavierGranville 6 лет назад
I've got a $1200 Ramos deck and love it! It needs some mana fixing and card draw so I'm looking forward to your thoughts on the possibilities Ramos holds!
@RichardMichaelOwen
@RichardMichaelOwen 6 лет назад
I like Bringer of the Blue Dawn for draw
@XavierGranville
@XavierGranville 6 лет назад
Richard Michael Owen Got him! I find I rarely get him. Likewise I threw in Nekusar to punish my buddy's Locust God deck haha
@RichardMichaelOwen
@RichardMichaelOwen 6 лет назад
And Sage of Fables
@ryanhansen9779
@ryanhansen9779 6 лет назад
Ummm....what? You honestly didn't need to spend so much money on your Ramos deck. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but last night I used a carefully tuned under $160 Ramos deck against three spike players at FNM who like you, love fast combos and masterpiece foils, and I stopped the Daretti with a single Putrefy, Stopped Ur Dragon and Test of Endurance with just Sylvan Reclamation, then won the game next turn, with Bounding Krasis, a 20 cent card. Just be careful not to overpay.
@XavierGranville
@XavierGranville 6 лет назад
Didn't sink that much into it. It's what it's worth. For instance, the Masterpiece Sol Ring I pulled in Kaladesh covers $200 right there. I agree with what you're saying, however.
@tylerlittleton6140
@tylerlittleton6140 6 лет назад
Sunsbirds works so well in a red green with mana ramp
@blazeflamesthesilverfox9762
@blazeflamesthesilverfox9762 6 лет назад
i see a door to nothingness combo in this card...
@ikilly9713
@ikilly9713 6 лет назад
Verdorous gearhulk
@rochaj24000
@rochaj24000 4 года назад
SO IM NOT THE ONLY ONE!?!?!?
@jakemizic4741
@jakemizic4741 6 лет назад
I love this deck I've been running a relatively similar build but I left Ramos behind cause he drew to much hate for my meta. So I'm running cromat multicolored spell slinger where I just cast and copy really fun cards
@GusPaivaSilvaPinto
@GusPaivaSilvaPinto 6 лет назад
You're almost making me transform my yidris project to ramos hahahaha
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Key word "almost" lol, cascade is so fun.
@AndrewWoodford
@AndrewWoodford 6 лет назад
Gustavo Paiva that is how a friend runs it. Creature Cascade and Charms.
@Kurogetsu1
@Kurogetsu1 6 лет назад
Gustavo Paiva I remember having a plan to make a yidris living end deck. Basically the same idea as the modern deck but adding in new perspectives, some wheels, and a couple of the kaladesh expertise spells
@ExTrEmEStOrW
@ExTrEmEStOrW Год назад
i have a very toxicly powerfull deck ( that can be made better if i put staples) so for those who want to know more about it i can link up the decklist the more people that runs ramos the happyer i get its so over looked and underrated for how powerful it is
@everettstatz1682
@everettstatz1682 6 лет назад
I'm honestly surprised you didn't include Narset, Enlightned Master in the 99
@syn7h3ca73
@syn7h3ca73 6 лет назад
I have a counters version of Ramos. Maybe I'll see ya at the Santa Clara!
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I hope to see you there!
@DrukenReaps
@DrukenReaps 6 лет назад
Possibility Storm gives 2 cast triggers. illusionists bracers and rings of brighthearth are good with ramos too!
@coreyroberson4550
@coreyroberson4550 6 лет назад
Bracers and Rings both say "if it isn't a mana ability."
@DrukenReaps
@DrukenReaps 6 лет назад
you are correct... that is my bad :( The possibility storm is still funny
@Lentizzz
@Lentizzz 6 лет назад
Just thinking about making my Kynaios group hug deck into a Ramos Deck. almost the same Cards
@l0k
@l0k 6 лет назад
Buddy, you need to find a way to play Prismatic Omen and Last Stand in there. It's all sorts of hilarious when you get the payoff!
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
AHahahah, I love it. I need this in a commander deck. I feel like this could be a good place for it. It's decided I'm trying it out! Cheers
@l0k
@l0k 6 лет назад
And while you're at it, think about some of the "5c" creatures you could be playing: Maelstrom Archangel, Bringer of the Black Dawn, Bringer of the Blue Dawn. They work well with Ramos and help you tutor up whatever you need. Bonus originality points as you almost never see them in EDH either.
@oateater5044
@oateater5044 6 лет назад
l0k the Bringers are mono color, right? Isn't that why the 5 mana symbols are grayed out, because the alternative casting cost is not part of their color identity?
@SniperDoogie
@SniperDoogie 4 года назад
I want to play here Siona and Zur together but I think Morophon is the better choice :“
@bluebird2807
@bluebird2807 6 лет назад
I feel like winding constrictor would be insane in a Ramos deck
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I think you could make an awesome +1/+1 counter deck with ramos. Corpsejack Menace, Winding Constrictor, Atraxa, Walking Ballista, Vorel, so many cool options!
@RichardMichaelOwen
@RichardMichaelOwen 6 лет назад
Some great multicolor +1/+1 options are Fate Transfer or Bioshift.
@AarhgYouTube
@AarhgYouTube 6 лет назад
Sunforger might be good in this deck. Fetches a bunch of the charms.
@Zendrig
@Zendrig 6 лет назад
It sounds really fun but I‘m pretty sure that it would frustrate the hell out of me keeping track of all these triggers and effects once the deck does what it does.
@YungBoiWetDream
@YungBoiWetDream 6 лет назад
Eye of the storm’s wording says it casts the copy. Can’t find a ruling anywhere where that’s been errata’d. Do with this information what you will.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
HA! That card causes some chaos!
@YungBoiWetDream
@YungBoiWetDream 6 лет назад
Jumbo Commander stick an abzan charm and one other 2 color spell and you’ve got an infinite mana/draw loop. Seems janky enough to invest effort in trying.
@owenmasur5640
@owenmasur5640 6 лет назад
I have a friend who made a pretty good Ramos super friends.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
My personal spellslinger version needs more finishers. I storm off and do a lot of nothing.
@gr3ndl3r
@gr3ndl3r 6 лет назад
I want to start off by saying that I know this is off subject, but it needs to be said. My local game shop closed down and while I'm occasionally able to get a couple of friends to come play commander on my kitchen table, I'm seriously hurting for some competitive play. I would love to get some opinions on some of my homebrewed decks, just so I can at least have the illusion of being in a playgroup again.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I'm so sorry to hear that your LGS closed. It's a rough business people! Go hug your LGS and tell it that you love them. Homebrew competitive stuff? Throw some awesome janky brew my way and I'd love to check it out.
@gr3ndl3r
@gr3ndl3r 6 лет назад
Here's an old one tappedout.net/mtg-decks/jank-grimgrin-zombie-combo/
@gr3ndl3r
@gr3ndl3r 6 лет назад
And my vanity project tappedout.net/mtg-decks/olivia-voldaren-vanity-project/
@neutralggesports
@neutralggesports 5 лет назад
Slide in the new Niv Mizzet and you get an infinite draw engine that pings the opponent constantly
@Dino-vu8jk
@Dino-vu8jk 6 лет назад
Could you make Ramos into a group hug kind of deck lol?
@xSkye629x
@xSkye629x 6 лет назад
He's 5 color and is super versatile over, he'll work at the helm of about any deck imo
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
He might be too scary to issue hugs ... all covered in metal and the size of a landscape .... the Iron Giant is the only massive robot I would want to hug.
@raimundkeller6115
@raimundkeller6115 6 лет назад
i run cruf of fate and duneblast myself, but had trouble with supreme verdict. I threw out of the deck due to me sometimes cascading into it when i relly didnt want it.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
It sucks to whiff on a cascade. Remember that the cascade resolves before the card you are casting so if it is the first cascade off of maelstrom wanderer you get to wipe the board, cascade again, then the wanderer comes in and you can slam into your defenseless opponent. But poor Ramos :(
@eluherrahaz1165
@eluherrahaz1165 5 лет назад
So I can use all colors in a deck with a colorless commander?
@maximilianlopez196
@maximilianlopez196 6 лет назад
Great video as always! How do you feel about the partner commanders? I feel that they're underrated (outside the super competitive breakfast hulk decks)
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I think that they are really great. I personally have ... 4 decks using partners ... that's a huge impact on my deckbuilding.
@maximilianlopez196
@maximilianlopez196 6 лет назад
Jumbo Commander Thank you for the reply! Wow 4! That's more than I expected. I have 5, but those are my only decks. I made it my sole purpose to find a synergy that works for each 4 color pairings. If you have time I have small write up on mtgsalvation found here: www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/multiplayer-commander-decklists/787469-partner-commanders-nono-r-zombie-token-swarm
@everettchew5797
@everettchew5797 6 лет назад
would you add Vexing Shusher in this list too? Kinda works like a Taigam/Boseiju at the cost of a single boros mana.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I would, depending on my meta. Good idea for people who need that sweet sweet tech!
@alexreignz1
@alexreignz1 Год назад
What deck can you get Ramos from?
@highdark4
@highdark4 6 лет назад
What about Reborn Hope and Treasured Find?
@everettchew5797
@everettchew5797 6 лет назад
Do you have issues with ramos staying on the board?
@christianfeldtmann6571
@christianfeldtmann6571 6 лет назад
How about the recently spoiled Cards: Azor, the lawbringer ; Azor´s Gateway or the blue Elder Dino Nezahal in this Deck?
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I think the lawbringer could be great because it is a place to pour all of our extra mana, Azor's gateway looks insane BUT this deck would prefer true looting to exile looting because we use the graveyard. The sea monster is another big beater and I think awesome (and I will run him in decks) but ultimately very replaceable.
@christianfeldtmann6571
@christianfeldtmann6571 6 лет назад
Thanks for ur thoughts on this matter
@iamjman01
@iamjman01 6 лет назад
you could throw in dramatic reversal isochron scepter and basalt monolith for infinite colorless
@draxthemsklonst
@draxthemsklonst 6 лет назад
Cheat Ramos out -- cast Sliver Queen, then 5 counters on Ramos -- cast Progenitus (the Commander). Ramos gets 5 more counters
@ss-tl1ic
@ss-tl1ic 6 лет назад
I'm gonna go super friends
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Sounds awesome!
@Coffeemancer
@Coffeemancer 6 лет назад
Is a thing such as X-Tribal with Changelings and Coat of Arms possible?
@AhranMaoDante
@AhranMaoDante 6 лет назад
Well, there are 20 creatures with changeling that can be used in commander, so it's possible.
@Kurogetsu1
@Kurogetsu1 6 лет назад
I saw a guy who ran reaper king as his commander. The 99 was all changelings and the best lords/tribal spells in all of magic. Looked super fun to play
@french_freys569
@french_freys569 6 лет назад
Double board wipe
@kingjames831
@kingjames831 6 лет назад
@jumbo commander Charm-breaker Devils
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I love the card ... but it always seems to die. Why can't my opponents ever misjudge its power?!?!?
@bobbymichealson798
@bobbymichealson798 6 лет назад
So will you update the deck after playtesting?
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Probably not. But if you tweet/comment at me I'll tell you how my games have been.
@pan2990
@pan2990 6 лет назад
An update video would be nice. Maybe after you have play-tested a few decks, then do a compilation video with a couple of minutes on each ones' changes and the reasoning.
@rangerlogan74
@rangerlogan74 6 лет назад
What about izzet charm???
@paxtonjk
@paxtonjk 6 лет назад
Etali primal storm oh
@Crimson9578
@Crimson9578 6 лет назад
If Ramos leaves play after it makes mana and is replayed can it make mana again the same turn?
@sightf2
@sightf2 6 лет назад
Pizza God Yes
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I forgot to mention another reason why flash (Leyline of Anticipation & Vedalken Orrery). You can float the mana in response to removal/wipe then flash your commander back out afterwards with its own mana. This trick was really important in my Omanth, Locus of Mana deck.
@ajsienda
@ajsienda 6 лет назад
Jank, Jank and more Jank?
@imasiontist653
@imasiontist653 6 лет назад
Ohhhh im charming 😏? I see 😉😉😉. damn things are just moving so quickly 😣😣😣😣
@tillhasbach
@tillhasbach 6 лет назад
forgotten ancient?
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I think you could include all of these types of creatures. Mana Gorger Hydra, Chasm Skulker, That azorious bird dude, taurean mauler. Ramos could be an awesome +1/+1 counter general.
@ScrapperTBP
@ScrapperTBP 6 лет назад
Remove counters get 2brg
@jonahk1593
@jonahk1593 6 лет назад
Second
@austindemars7102
@austindemars7102 4 года назад
Here's a dumb card. Helm of the host
@usernameunidentified9874
@usernameunidentified9874 6 лет назад
Illegal deck... Ramos is a colorless commander meaning you can only use colorless spells...
@cameron719
@cameron719 6 лет назад
He has each color in his rules text so he's 5 color. Mana symbols in rules text counts for color idenitity
@usernameunidentified9874
@usernameunidentified9874 6 лет назад
If that's the case then why isn't Blind Obedience BW seeing as it has a black symbol in its text?
@blackmagichour
@blackmagichour 6 лет назад
Totodile is right. Look it up.
@usernameunidentified9874
@usernameunidentified9874 6 лет назад
I did, Ramos is a colorless creature so therefore he can only use colorless spells.
@kero1640
@kero1640 6 лет назад
Username Unidentified Ramos is 5 color as it has all colors in an activated ability. The extort ability on blind obedience shows the black/white as a reminder text therefore it does not count towards commander color identification.
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