I'm doing my part! Maintaining a 2005 petrol V8 L322. Keep the old stuff on the road, good for the environment, good for the economy and good for me because it's a wonderful vehicle!
Currently got a 2009 L322 3.6TDV8 Westminster in Stornoway grey just hit 100,000 miles and had it about 18 months! I must admit it’s my third L322 and it’s become something of an addiction.
Great video. I have just bought a 2011 4.4l tdV8 Autobiography L322 that has done north of 200k kms for a whopping 16k euros. But is has been well maintained. I know Range Rovers, having had three Classics and one L322 followed by a L405. In my humble opinion the L322 is a better driving experience than the overly complex L405. Also the layout of the L322 dashboard is better thought out. I think you got the bargain of the century, sometime you take a risk and come out the other end smiling. About your concern about the turbos, there is a very simple solution which works. Delete the EGR Valve operations from your vehicle computer and cap off the valves. When these valves fails bit fall into the turbos and it that which causes the damage. Deleting the EGR will not adversely effect the operation of the engine. If you use a garage to do this have the engine remapped as it will cost the same to do both as just the EGRs, Once remapped the engine will breath better your throttle response will be better and you get better fuel economy, bit of a no brainer, improve performance and fuel economy whilst protecting your engine from a costly failure all for around 500 drinking tokens. Once done you can forget about having turbo problems. I agree with all your comments about having a Range Rover. As for the feeling of driving one it is very difficult to explain to anyone who has not experienced it. Personally I think it is all about being relatively high up and being able to see what is going on whilst being in a very nice, quiet and comfortable place. I is the ultimate armchair on wheels, I live in SW France and I am looking forward to driving back to England at Easter to have an engine and transmission remap plus the EGR delete and a transmission Mega Flush to ensure a long lasting trouble free gearbox. The gearbox on all these cars gets neglected and that is the main cause of people having problems, it is a complex bit of kit and has to serviced and looked after. Sorry for the length of this comment but I think the effort you have taken to produce the two videos deserves more that a quick couple of lines. Do give serious consideration to the question of EGR deletion and maybe a remap to get the engine ideally suited to the European climate. The factor mapping delivers a car that can operate in very high temperatures and extreme cold whilst being able to accommodate marginal fuel quality. If you are using the car in our reasonably mild European climate then a remap makes a lot of sense, it is not for performance but intimate efficiency, however, if you go this route choose a good tuning shop with a good remap service. I use MAC Tuning in Stevenage but there are many other capable outfits. I hope continue to enjoy your bargain L322 and I look forward to your two year evaluation in the future, Have a good one, stay safe and keep frosty, Regards Bruce
I am on my second l322.Its black with a sand colour interior with sand coloured interior with black wood inserts and its done approx 109000 miles and I have owned it since 2021. And I am a woman and I love it.
Debating buying a 2007 4.2 Supercharged L322. Really want one and think i might just pull the trigger! You only live once and ive always bought sensible vehicles over the years. Very boring i know. So think its about time i take a risk. 👍
Hi i have a2012 L322 4.4 Tdv8 vi all ways wanted one so I did it I love it every time you get in it you just feel so good if you want one just get it never mind what anybody else thinks the best car I have ever had
Just bought one here in the east of Africa (Uganda) it is a beaut. Bought at a steal. Needs a new engine and one shock absorber booster. Looking forward to getting it on the road.
To answer your question, watching because I want one. Drove a L322 and L405 back to back recently and much preferred the 322 by a large margin. I'd even go so far as to buy one and spend enough on bringing it up to standard to have bought a 405. I don't want one because they're cheaper, I want one because its my preference of the two Basically it's going to be keeper.
@@TorontoL322 The 322 felt a lot more solid to drive, plus the vehicle is more mechanical than electronic. Things such as lowering the rear seats, opening the tailgate etc. On the 405 all those things have motors, in the the 322 they're done manually. And considering how stolen 405's are in the UK at the moment there's absolutely no chance I'd even consider one.
@@echobravo1105 I ended up buying a L322! I kinda agree on all the mechanical stuff. Electronic tailgate and seats are all nice features, but when you’re in a hurry they’re become a hindrance.
Similar to others I have a 2007 L322 Vogue 3.6TDV8 had it about two weeks. It’s a 4 owner with FSH 65,000 miles so I paid slightly over the odds as wanted the history and it’s in lovely condition for age. Had one of these originally on a 59 plate and owned every model since right up to date - but it’s the one I’d choose to driver over any of the others. Yep, it’s going to go wrong but like your attitude towards it. Great video enjoyed watching. Thanks
Buy any modern car at £40k and you spend £3-400 month on depreciation. Accept that it'll cost you £2-3k a year and not alot in depreciation. Easy choice for me. Just doing a cam cover replacement on my 2008 TDV8 with 100k miles on the clock. Love it! Best thing regards turbos is to save up and have them done before they go bang and whilst your at it do the egr valves (or delete if you are so inclined. Suspension is modular and really not complicated if you work through it. Good luck
I have recently bought my l322 (Dec 22) i have no regrets so far. Ive replaced the alternator ( big ouch) the battery ( just ouch) air suspension bag replaced ( not as bad as it could have been, but oomph!! nonetheless). I love driving it, and the wife likes it too. Bonus. Apart from the ouches and oomphs, of course.😂
Brit in the USA. Have a 2011 322 5.0 SC. Great power. Just coming up to 136K miles . Change the oil every 5K ( timing chain concern) . Had to change front right suspension strut due to leak. Main issue was troubleshooting it. I recommend getting a diagnostic tool. In France had TD Range Rover , and before this 322 had a LR3 discovery 2008. On that I overhauled the suspension compressor for about $50. (Good video on y tube) . If I have a complaint it’s the gps/entertainment was not the best. But compared to the drive and comfort it’s minor. My wife loves it . We have the registration… 5ANDRA guess her name ?
My 88 RRC was one of the first imported to the US. I drove it into the ground slipping 7&8 cylinder liners at 293K miles. My 95 LWB county completed hundred of trips into Death Valley and Southern Utah. It split its U-joint at hi way speed with 176K miles taking out the transmission! My 04 Disco II 4.6L engine overheated at 146K so swapped in a 4.0L spare with only 18K given to my sister as she needed a reliable 4x4 living off-grid outside Toas. We now live off-grid surrounded by the Navajo reservation. It's 65 miles down a BIA "maintained" dirt goat path to the nearest grocery in Gallup NM. I just bought a 08 FFRR in Buckingham Blue truely a royal carriage! It has no air suspension, a non- responsive terrain response, needs Cats and O2 sensors at 193K miles but I love it after only one day!
I have owed a few Range Rover cars and the last one was a 2004 L322. I wish I’d not sold it. I’m looking for another newer upgraded L322. Just doing some research on what engine but I’m definitely going to get another one. I love the comfort and drive.
Currently own TD6 2005, love the driving position, don’t hate anything, used daily, currently on 206k, when things brake/need repair I just get it fixed, will upgrade to another L322 (would like to try another model) at some point. Your video is spot on and your commentary hits the right balance. Keep up the good insight!
That's the way, drive it and fix it when it breaks. I said in this video that I was worried about the shock absorbers failing as they are the constant variable damping ones and the car has started to creak and grumble over the bumps at low speed (can't hear it when going much over walking pace). Took the rear wheel off to investigate the bushes yesterday and found a blown/leaking rear shock. I have just ordered the pair of rear shocks for it and got them for a steal at £480 for the pair delivered. If it was a car without the adaptive damping it could have been done for as little as £100 for a pair of decent shocks. It stings a bit but I can't preach about maintenance and then ignore the issues or fit parts that detract from the original build can I really? I suspect this issue has been present for a while so I'm hoping it will be noticeable improvement when I get them fitted this week. I'll drive it about 400 miles Sunday/Monday so I'm looking forward to the improvement.
I'm watching this after i just bought a 2005 Range Rover Sport 4.2 SC 1st Edition and at auction with no test drive. Agree with you entirely, if something is broke then fix it. I only paid £3k to in my mind i can spend a little more to fix any gremlins. Its only dont 96k miles, so hoping nothing major in near future. I'll be taking it out for a drive this week end it see what happens. Love the youtube vids
I've just bought one, which I get tomorrow 03/11/23, 2007 TDV8 3.6. I know there's a couple of issues need addressed. It's my intention to put her on the road again, (MOT ran out in May), and am looking forward to it! BTW, it's an Overfinch version.
@@FatNFurious Well the first thing to sort out is the ignition key. I tried to re-synch it and nothing happened, which led to further investigation. Thankfully the fob has a screw to remove in order to open it. When I did, it would appear that someone tried fitting the battery using a blowtorch! Part of the printed circuit is missing around the battery connections, but I have liquid solder that i'm going to try and repair it with. Wish me luck!!
I’ll be totally honest, I’ve had a suspension niggle that has driven me to distraction for a few weeks, resolved it the other day (£10 part). Last night, I drove the car 2.5 hours in miserable weather to meet my wife and kids at Butlins for the weekend and as I got near to my destination I caught myself thinking about just how great the car is to own and what a wonderful drive it truly is. I never really wanted one until I drove our Discovery 4 and now I almost cannot imagine being without it. All joking aside, spend a day with one and you’ll be 99% in favour of buying one. Budget for your startup costs and go for it.
I'm not phased by the cost of running / repairing to be honest as cost of entry isn't too bad, there'll be some in reserve. My current motor cost me £34k, has depreciated £10k in two years. I can't see the same losses arising with a long legged Rangey, and I'm going to retire in a few years so a decent one may serve me in my first few years of retirement too. Have my eyes on one at the moment, 2009 3.6 TDV8 c70k miles. 2 owners, £13k...
2.5 years ive owned the 08 3.6 tdv8. IF! i have another it would be the 4.4 tdv8. These cars are loveable bastards. I cant tell you how much alcohol was consumed just to do the rear hub bushes 😭 but every time you spend 10 mins with the bitch running well. It wins ya over everytime...
Trying to decide between an L322 and an L405 currently. Looking at 4.4 diesels. I think I'm leaning towards the L322, it just seems more agricultural and fun. Thanks for the info, and the encouragement :P
Loved your video, I am currently considering buying an L322, cant decide if to get TDV8 3.6 o the later TDV8 4.4, but I will get one when Ive sold my 2013 XJ 3.0litre Portfolio. Cheers Peter
I am watching this because I would love to own a Range Rover L322 part of the appeal is knowing its going to brake down at some point but it's why we love them so much it's the risk verses reward of ownership 😢😂
I’m keeping the faith got a 2006 Vogue had it since 2015. Re-built gear box replaced front air bags and air compressor only cost £220 and half an hour to fit. Petrol 4.4 V8 Jag engine, parts are now quite reasonable and the cars ULEZ compliant it’s used as a daily driver into East London every day so Two fingers up to Sadistic Khan.
Brilliant! 👏🏻 I'm watching because.... a, I am finally considering a V8 5.0 petrol ( possibly a Supercharger) after avoiding them forever. b, I'm going to be coming out of my XC90 V8 (315 bhp) Executive after 6 years and they are fairly similar on many levels... The XC90 has been as good as gold and an absolute joy to own but I have an imminent move approaching and sadly will not be able to take it with me. Fuel economy is not an issue for me and I firmly believe in maintaining and investing in my cars but I would still appreciate your opinion🙏🏻
I’ve had 2 freelanders, disco 1, 3x disco 2, disco 3, RR p38 and latest is L322 which is my favorite , it’s a jag V8 petrol love it , drive it like a roller and smiles per gallon , cost me £650 in sensors 4 months after buying but since then been great 2 years on👍
I've had 3 L322's by now. 2 td6's and a 3.6. Sold them every time after a year of ownership after I almost went bankrupt three times... 😂 Still... Bought another 3.6 two weeks ago again because they're addictive! Nothing drives like that... And I keep wanting one... They're like Crack. You know it's not good for you, but it's too good to let it go...
Always wanted one. Will be looking for the 4.4 v8. I've been stung with other 4x4s and don't see it being much different. The horror stories do worry me, but what the Mrs doesn't know won't hurt me 😂
Want. I have a 2010 Jaguar XKR that I feared would be a horror. An analog to this Range Rover, it is amazing. I love it. Of course it's not cheap. I get so much joy from it..
Had mine 6 years, it was 5 when I bought it. I’ve never had such an unreliable car, this car can let you down when you least need it to. I’ve had to replace things on this car that I never had to replace on any French car! I really actually think the gearbox is next. Things go wrong that just shouldn’t go wrong but I love it, or possibly even addicted… Getting something that fat to move that quick never gets boring (for the money) What’s next? Well, probably another one 😅
Great video. Really like your attitude towards keeping old gear on the road. Just got an - l322 2006 petrol V8. Scratched the itch. Ive also got a Land Cruiser (Prado) and that’s a fabulous car. I’ve done all the preventative maintenance on the LC so fancied a project motor.
Definitely a wannabe for a V8 5L petrol model! I am a retired English engineer living in Sweden and very interested in buying one - but a decent condition and milage LHD 20210-2012 L322 are not only hard to find but about 21 - 28K Euros here...
I got 2008 lr322 105000 miles had for 6yrs now, change oil every year,big hit this yr with bushes being dne,wheel arches,new rear door rubbers, that carnt b 2 bad after 15 yrs on the road,mine hve nvr had a tow itch fitted, strange 4 a l322.
great frank comments I watch this as I'm getting my first FFRR in the new year I hoping to get my hands on the L405 4.4lt 8 speed great if you could upgrade you did mention it in your last vid
Too late! I sold the L322 after a year of ownership. Best one I have ever had and that engine is to die for. Unimaginable power from an old Range Rover. Bought a Discovery Sport but not the Fisher price engine one. I bought the old Freelander 2.2 powered one.
You very right keep the old cars on the road and if you look after the car then they will look after you. I had jeep commander.. Everyone said don't buy it but I had great time with it....
I would love an L322. I just have to have one at some point. The comfort, ride quality, power, elevated driving position . This is my dream car. I don't care what it costs to run. I want one. Take care. Steve.
27 months into owning my 2007. Go for it. Last month did a thousand mile long weekend, fabulous. Last couple of weeks two 200 mile days dragging a huge horse trailer. God it is just the most fabulous vehicle I have ever driven. over fourteen years now into Land Rovers, never been let down.
Ive been looking to own an L322. And this as made my mind up, can't wait to sit behind the wheel when I do purchase one, I own a kia sportage had 5 years and spent nearly £2K on it in the last 6 months. So yeah great vid and hopefully get my hands on one these beauties soon. 👍
Not mentioned . I own one and love it. There is problems with corrosion on the rear subframe mine is a 2010 vogue . Watch the rear track control link where it joins the subframe it can corrode and break off .needs specialist welder as there is no replacement part. Love the car though
I have owned over a dozen Landrovers over the years (as well as every pickup truck, Toyota Landcruisers, Isuzu Troopers, Mercedes ML, and so on) and in particular, 5 x Range Rovers. My current is a 3.6TDV8 and it now has 117k. Bought it last year dirt cheap with lots of faults, and I have been ticking them off one by one. Bought myself a Gap IID tool and diagnose all the faults myself. Also used it to over write the TPMS CCF so that I no longer get sensor faults. It’s a Must have tool if you work on these yourself. However, be warned, once you have driven one of these, you will not like driving another car ever again. I keep kidding myself that I would be happy driving something else, but am not. It’s my all time favorite car. I saw a vid by Matt at High Peak autos and his advice on these was sound. Keep a couple of grand aside in a pot for when stuff needs to be done. I have done all four suspension bags, front discs and pads, gearbox service and have had a shop rebuild my rear diff. So if you want one enough to buy one, do your homework, buy one without any rust underneath, run it for at least 30 minutes at idle before you buy one, and then you might be okay. All the old ones have a gearbox leak but it’s nothing serious. Get it serviced and ask them to change the mechatronic wiring harness seal. On a run I get over 30mpg from this 2.7 ton lump but it is simply the best one to own. Be warned, not cheap, but my neighbour spends 500 a month on a new car lease and after 3 years has to give it back. So even driving a L322, the maths are on my side…..unless the turbos blow and then it’s a scrapper.
Turbos ain't that bad to do. I do them on my drive mate. Did my own a few months ago because the VNT was sticking on the L/H and did the pair for under £800. Definitely wouldn't scrap a good 322 just for the sake of a couple of turbos
@@StuStafford83 I'd be really interested to see a video on this. I haven't had to do mine and if they go, I will sort them out but I was under the impression it was an engine out job to do them which I would of course do and then be filled with regret the moment I started it 🙂. You can do them in situ can you?
@FatNFurious Yep 100% do them in situ. You wouldn't really gain much pulling the engine out if I'm honest. It's a fair bit of work, but far from impossible. Labour intensive more than anything. Both front struts have got to come off. Don't bother removing the subframe. The front diff is the worst bit to get out. Pull the complete L/H front hub off with the driveshaft and both arms attached to it and the diff wiggles out through the driveshaft opening in the subframe. Once you've got those bits off it's plain sailing. I'd advise taking the coolant diverter valve off as well that's tucked down the passenger side inner wing, once that and the strut is out of the way you can get in there easily! For the R/H turbo, get the starter off and you can get to the bottom of it and then get the mounting bolts and oil feed from through the hole in the inner wing behind where the front strut airbag lives
@@StuStafford83 Amazing, thanks. I've replaced that diverter valve already, that was my first fiddly RR job to do but like all things, once you work out the access it's not so bad. I'll keep this in mind and now I've read this I'm not too worried about the turbos failing on it, it'll just be a job that needs doing if they go. 👍
@FatNFurious Keep her going mate! I keep thinking of buying a newer one, but I can't be dealing with the insurance aggro that comes with the later keyless ones. I'll just keep the old 3.6 until it falls to bits I think
Hi I'm Ian Groom, iv had 5 various rangerover now and now have the 4.2 supercharged v8 running on LPG and it is the best car iv have. Great video by the way, I all so changed the exhaust system and put stainless steel pipes up under the lengh of the running board's sounds great.
I got mine on eBay, a 2004 4.4 petrol LPG vogue mint condition for the yr and absolutely love it. HOWEVER now the electronic gremlins are raising their ugly heads. First the steering angle sensor went so replaced that now the HVAC is running even when turned off with the key, so just need a new final stage resistor ( also known as a hedgehog) to solve the battery drain problem. Btw I'm doing all these jobs myself with limited tools and experience, I've learned a hell of a lot from you tube vids. I just love Range Rovers and wouldn't hesitate to tell anyone who wants one to go for it BUT make sure to budget for around £200pm for maintenance or learn to do it yourself.
I have owned 3 L322’s in my time, and loved them, like you (all 4.4TDV8). Am on my second L405 (4.4TDV8) and love them too … although have had a couple more maintenance issues with the 405 than the 322s. Overall though, they are just a pleasure to own and drive for a long distance - we drive to France/Italy every other year. I back up your comment - take the plunge, people, you will just love it.
bought Freelander 2010 2.2 TD4...was my first land Rover....4 month ago.... guess what .... addiction on this brand is something else.... now i own L320 3.6 and Tomorrow i am collecting L322 3.6. i am a full blown addict... someone please help!!!
I have 2010 L322 3.6TDV8. Vogue SE. Metallic Black. 18 ownership so far. (Had a P38 before). I’m the second owner from new 41k miles full London service record. Just Done disc brakes and pads, already sorted heater thermostat and CD, new battery. But it still goes flat very frustrating but I’ll get it sorted. Love it and I’m keeping it. Great drive.
Great video. I want one, thinking of the 4.4tdv8, with a spec of Vogue SE, or above. I'm not going to lie, the potential reliability worries are concerning me, but what a lovely car these appear to be! The L322 itch might have to be scratched soon.
Own one. 4.2 SC, 2006. Hate the maintenance, love the drive. Have it for 5 years now, cost me 18.000 euro's garage bills, without tax, insurance and gas. But worth it.
Wanted - and pulled the trigger - bought it (2007 HSE with 118K miles). Hopefully with the right maintenance, will keep running past the 250k-mile mark for the next decade to come
Opening monologue is spot on we know its a bad idea but we do it. I spent 6 months looking finallly got one its lovely but my god the first hour made my eyes water TAX INSURANCE then Filled the tank
My front speakers are shot in my 2010 l322 Overfinch. Can i ask where you got them? Sound a good price. Like the man says, just do it, nothing like them on the road just buy for cash and fix as you go along
I bought them from Dynamic Sounds on eBay. They are just some cheap 16.5cm Pioneer 2-ways the tweeters will never work obviously as the woofers are run through crossovers on the factory system. If I were to do it again, I’d get something a bit more meaty as I expect these won’t last too long given the size of the magnets but they are doing as well as the stock ones at half the size. You can put anything in there as you don’t need adapters, just pull apart the blown speakers and you’ll see it’s a really easy swap.
I’ve done it, bought a 2012 at auction has some issues (don’t they all 😅) working through them before getting it and the gearbox serviced, always been a LR fan
You’re quite right about the audience. I’m on the lookout and about to buy a 2011. A real petrolhead at heart I had to slow myself down and bought a Disco4 which was superb. Now I’m a Tesla M3 Performance (immense piece of kit) for the last 4 years I still wanted a Disco again, but channels like yours have persuaded me on the L322. Will sadly have to part with my 20 year old Subaru Legacy GT-B. It’s perfectly fine and costs nothing to repair, I’m going to miss a manual gearbox and the analog feel.
GT-B? Ooh, that is an excellent bit of kit, really understated too. My neighbour had one, he had a Legacy and saw the nose of the GT-B sticking out behind a Honda dealership and just did a U turn to go in and ask. Bought it there and then, went home to get the paperwork for his to trade and his wife asked him what happened to the shopping that he went out for? "Err, something came up".
@@FatNFurious The 4.2 has the best engine bull-it proof if serviced correctly and tows really well too I'm thinking about getting another l322 they just drive so nice.
Really enjoyed the 2nd part! I really want one. They just look so stylish. Nothing on the road like them. Liked your comment about buying a new car for 300 quid a month. 3600 quid a year. It's the sort of vehicle that you buy for cash and then expect the costs of running it. If you are paying 300 quid a month for a new/second hand/leased car then the budget is there for running/repair costs. I so want one!
@@JuganautTimelapse Seek forgiveness rather than permission? My wife doesn’t like the look of the RR, apparently it’s too aggressive. She has the Disco 4 and that keeps the peace. In truth it was her fault as I didn’t want one until we got hers. She mocks me for it and it’s all good.
@@FatNFurious A good tactic....and also to blame her as well :-) My wife loves the look of the L322 especially inside and I said she would look good sitting in it (buttering up!) I think the plan is to look for one around 6k and then have the same amount in a pot for looking after it. Have to say it makes so much more sense than leasing a car for 300+ per month for a car that does not have the sheer style and looks of the L322.
Great video thank you. You hit the nail 100% on the head with me. I want one, have a route now to buying one and am battling sensible head of having owned older cars that have cost hundreds of pounds, vs the bug of really wanting to experiencing owning a 322 and for the practicalities of living out in the countryside where there are potholes, floods, snow occasionally. Would make an awesome tow car and “truck” with all the space in them too. Teetering on the edge and about to jump I think!
Wanted a Range Rover since I was 14, never been able to afford one, family, life, divorce etc. Now in a position where I could justify a cheap one and use it for limited mileage very locally. We also have a stupidly efficient Fiesta diesel for runs around the place (60mpg urban!) Seriously looking for a P38 2.5D - I know they are old and worn, but very much a known quantity and I like the look of the least popular one. And there arent many left to keep on the road.
I love the look of the P38. Yeah, that BMW diesel is hard work in them but it’s a solid engine and who cares when it’s in a classic icon. Definitely do it if you can! If you do, let us k ow how it goes.
@@FatNFurious Finding a half decent one is now the problem, few and far between, nothing under 100k and a bit tired. But the Fiesta is just a bit too small to put all my beekeeping stuff in ;-)
Found a lovely l322 vouge v8 in stornaway grey with a very good service history. Drove great for 3 months then under acceleration would randomly go into limp mode..after a long diagnostic test turned out to be exhaust inlet manifolds..garage replaced parts its a long job cost just under £3.000 including a few replacement bits and a carbon clean on the turbos. Since then i have had over 10 months of glorious driving..i absolutely love this car...its definitely a range rover thing,once you drive and own one there's no going back ❤
All cars are really expensive to repair these days and I wouldn’t trust a new car Glad you enjoy it- save the planet and keep it going and enjoy - I love my L322 and in my opinion the best ever
I own 3 L322 !! My latest is the same as yours for only £700 because apparently it needed a £3500 gearbox refurbishment! I fixed it myself for £260 with a new torque converter! Got a bargain I think! 🤔 😊
