Ranking ALL THE TERMINATORS in Warhammer 40K 

Seems Poorhammer have also done a 'ranking terminators' video on the same day! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HyGsI8ZsGGk.html&ab_channel=Poorhammer Theirs is a bit more of a 'every faction's heavy elite equivalents' video, so there's surprisingly little unit overlap. It's well worth a watch (and as usual is far higher production value than the likes of me and my slides :D )

WE ARE FINALLY COMPLETELY IN SYNC! Together we will pilot a Jaeger and defend the world.

Dwarves have better terminators than Dark Angels now. These are dark times lads.

Grey Knights Brotherhood Squads look great and I've seen people kitbash them with the Deathwing Terminators to a great homebrew refresh of the range.

Poorhammer and Auspex put out videos about terminators in the same day what a great day for Terminator fans.

I'm using Cataphractii Terminators all armed with lightning claws as proxies for Assault Terminators.

Hey lets go, first i listen to the poorhammer podcast on termies now this?? I must have rooled a six somewhere...

Terminators have always been some of my favorite units in 40K. So many great sculps and I have been bring 5 in almost every game for about a decade.

Man. Dark Angels really got done dirty by their Codex release. Imagine getting your Codex and coming out the other side WEAKER than you were before you had it.

You've posted this at 4am where I live. Also glad you counted Meganobz as terminators, as you should have

One thing I'd like to clarify as a Chaos player: the Undivided strategem now only gives a wound reroll and can only be used on units with that mark. The reason they still get full re-rolls is their passive ability.

Breaks my heart to see my beloved DWK in such a state. On the + side, they look amazing on my display shelf !

World eater terminators suffer greatly from having literally no leaders to attach to

Agree with the grey knight paladins as a side grade, just surprised that their shooting wasn't mentioned. 3 of the 5 can have special guns and they hit on 2. Terminator group has 1 out of the 5 with a special gun, and 1 missing a gun, with shooting on 3. The loss of the narthecium when going to paladins is rough.

If World Eaters Terminators could just get a character to attach to (Like one of the TWO TERMINATOR LORD MODELS GW ALREADY MADE) they would shoot up. They have the damage, they just don't have anything more than that.

I am literally building the Deathwing Assault Box and this comes up, thank you Auspex XD

Hearing the phrase "deep strike" so many times got me thinking...maybe a tier list of deep strike units/models?

Poor hammer and auspex reviewing termies the same day? A miracle for my full terminator custodes list😂

I don't care if the Deathwing Knights suck, they're still the coolest terminators by far.

Perfect timing of the video with the mini of the month out. I use it to convert to an Ancient in Terminator Armour. Curious to try it out since it is often overlooked!

I love my Assault Termies in my Templars army! Big blob of them + Captain w/ T-Bones and an Ancient. Expensive, but 52 wounds at T5, 2+/4++, 5+ FNP makes them crazy hard to shift. Maybe not super competitive, but dang are they fun!

Great video. I love me some Terminators. I listened to an audiobook the other night that made the Scarab Occult absolutely terrifying. Heavy armor and firepower and the psyker powers/sorcery spells all in near perfect tandem from a whole squad is just OP. The burning of Prospero would have been way different if Magnus had planned to defend himself from the Wolves.

The insane thing is that Deathshroud Terminators came down 5 points in the most recent balance dataslate, while Blightlord Terminators received no buffs of any sort. As usual, it's a complete mystery what GW was thinking.

Great video as always. Would you consider Paragon Warsuits a type of terminator? If so, how would they stack up?

Bonus points for including the Meganobz!

Man I really need a video "Why play 40k" most battle reports I watch it just seems like a chore to pla

CSM Terminators have access to full reroles and exploding 6s on the combi weapons, with a Lord they get to use the AoC strat for free and can benefit from normal cover aswell, I'd argue some of the best in the game.

You see, you forgot the guardsman termies, the mighty BULLGRYN!

Scarab occult terminators are great and yes i am biased

I realy like the Look of the Primaria Terminators, im a Bit sad that they arent that usefull

I've been using Terminators in Sons of Sanguinius lead by a Chaplain and it can get quite silly. Against your Oath target you're almost always hitting and wounding on 2s in melee.

Loving the Deathshroud in my lists! They are very, very strong. Lord of Contagion with one blob, sometimes Typhus with another if I am feeling spicy.

Worth mentioning that the GK Paladins also get three special weapons as opposed to a single one on yhe terminators. Really solid at taking out soft-medium targets.

I have just noticed the wolf guard storm bolter looks like it has a little piggy snout and am now wearing a big smile imagining the oinks and squeals as it fires blowing holes I random xenos lol

I run wolf guard terminators with battle leader and Logan. such a fun group to play with.

I love terminator so much.😢 Always use it in my list.😊

I feel like terminators could be brought up quite a bit by giving them bolter discipline back on their storm bolters, making them 4 shots at all ranges. This as well as having them not take a penalty to hit for thunder hammers would make them feel more like elites

I really think the worst part about the dwk is the 5 man squad. At oc 1 it will not hold an objective against any horde, the unit footprint is very small so they are poor wall for screening against charges, and their attack potential is pretty low so they don't act like a great distraction carnifex. At 235 points they are mainly there to bog one thing down FOREVER, because they are so hard to kill.

In Righteous Crusaders with Tännhausers Bones you can give a brick of 10 Terminators a 5+++ FnP. Which is very unique and powerful to Black Templars. 4 Wound Models with 2+, 4++ and 5+++ break Math quite hard!

All i needed to complete the treble was for Isander & Koda to do an episode yestefay on the development of Terminator armour - and rank the marks!

Honestly maces needed to stay damage 3, but what the power weapons *really* needed were more attacks. And I don't just mean this for DA as well. It feels like there are way more optimized anti MEQ options than anti horde out there.

Its hard to use deathshroud. You almost have to rapid ingress them in in order to attack mid board unless you have plenty of cover and advance for two turns

The Grey Knight models need some SERIOUS updated lovin'

A generic Space Marine stratagem I miss is Auspex Scan. Just being able to shoot at any deep strike felt good for an elite army. So much teleporting nowadays. Transhuman Physiology was super good and more accurate. I felt like it made more sense than Armor of Contempt. But I never liked AoC as a rule.

I love my MegaNobz. Throw 5 + a Big Mek in a Battlewagon/Killtank (Preferably Kill tank) and you're having a good day Krumpin' dem 'umies!

Ought to have included the wraith guard, and the aggressors.

Just caught this in my feed after visiting my local Warhammer shop for the first time and getting my free Deathwing Terminator. It was nothing like any of the horror stories I’ve heard, the bloke running it was really friendly and chatty, to the point where I probably nattered on more than he did! This reception was so welcoming that couldn’t bear to leave without buying _something_ to make up for the free Termi, so I decided to get a mystery badge for a fiver. Turned out to be a Craftworld Ulthwé symbol, which was slightly disappointing for me, but I had fun anyway. TL:DR- Went to local GW to get a Terminator, left with a possible lifelong friendship

im rather sad i didn't see any abberants, as they are the gsc's terminators, and i think they could rank rather high (4+ FNP with 3 wounds and -1 to wound if S>T is pretty powerful, and they are pretty hard to bring down, plush 3 damage per weapon at ap -2 and T6)

What about the Tau? Broadsides or enforcer battlesuits? Heavy weapons, 2+ save, multi-wound models

Minimum unit size on meganobz is 2, which is worth bearing in mind. 60 points is reasonable for a backfield objective holder that doesn't die to a stiff breeze. Also gives Ghaz dev wounds during the Waaagh, so thats why you take them

"Poster boys of the tenth edition!" Lol, please never use any of my minis as poster boys again.

I ran 5 Assault Termies with a Termy Chaplain, and absolutely mulched an undamaged Ghost Keel battlesuit.

Terminators, Centurions, and Dreadnoughts are the three things that tempt me to play Space Marine's as a long-time Xenos player. With Obliterators and Hellbrutes being their Chaos equivalent in appeal to me. I'm really hoping Leagues of Votaan get something good that's akin to Centurions in their second wave. Or at least a mech of some sort like a Dreadnought. It might end up being something more akin to Dreadknights though, I think.

Just the other day I ran 2 DG land rainders w 5 Blight Lords each, one led by an LoC, the other a Termie Sorcerer. I feel on their own they are OK, but when you put em in a transport they get wayyy better

For some reason I have a feeling about late summer and the assault termies Can somebody clear this up though, my deathwing termites are rocking the cyclone and a different one has plasma that's fine right?

I love World Eater Terminators. Using 10 with 8 kombi weapons and 2 reapers. It's really great having a more tactical choice.

Honestly I can't wait for new assault terminators. I want a unit of ten with stormshields led by the terminator chaplain with stormshield. Will just look so bad ass.

Grey knight paladins also hit on 2+ btw. and can take way more special weapons. (3 psycannoms hitting on 2+ for 5 models) I think that lifts them to 9/10

I know it's not the point of the video, and perhaps it's just a unique phenomenon in my community, but I have found that a 10-man unit of Terminators in the Vanguard Spearhead detachment with a character using The Blade Driven Deep for infiltration is pretty great. Deploy them in the mid-board, ideally on an objective with a bit of terrain to prevent shooting, and the unit essentially starts the game in the position they want to be in. Use Armor of Contempt against AP-3 shooting to marginally improve the saves if you happen to go second.

Orks representation was a surprise to hear. Orks is da best.

Which faction is the term in the middle of the back row? I looked at each chapter and didn't see it

As much as I want to agree on the level you've given the Scarab Occult, in their current point-cost level they're just not worth it. Slow, not so tanky - even with the -1 to wound with higher strength weapons, and rather pillowfisted ranged weapons - all hitting on 3's. In an edition where cover is almost always applied, they're never worth dumping the 2 CP/1 cp + 6 cabal on to 'boost', which is probably why they're so high costed. Forget that the squad leader CANNOT fire his psychic attack and his combi-bolter at the same time unlike almost every sorcerer we have; whilst the solo term sorc can do both. 330 points with the combo char+squad. They're just bottom tier. Almost worse than Deathwing.

If you go for Terminator-equivalent, you could have also included smaller wraiths

Attaching Chaos Termies to Abbadon is a rookie mistake. His aura allows rerolls for hits and a 4+ invuln, which the Termies already get.

Upvoting for dwarf terminators. ROCK AND STONE!

C'mooon, give SOT a 7 you know you want to :) SOT with ensorcelled infusion + Devastating sorcery is CRAZY Strong

Aquilons look stunning. Just wish they weren't FW resin.

Interesting you didn't consider wraith blades/guard as TEQ despite include much of the other xenos.

You included Mega Armor Nobs and the Votann lads, but not Paragon Warsuits?

9th of April shall be know as TermiDay from now on.

I dont mind the point cost, they should be, but they do need to pack more of a punch!

I came here to see if Meganobz made the list and was not disappointed!

Unintentional Poorhammer synergy, gotta love it

Now this is a video

CSM Termies are the best. Full RR and lethal on 5s. Oof. I add a sorc to tzeentch and just shoot apart knights. Or khorne just rips them to pieces.

If you give a big mek 'ere we go the Ork termies get 7" base move. And they have shiny gubbins

There is a special place in hell for those who make other suffer their alarms.

Thanks.

I love the fact you and poor hammer cover the same topic on the same day. That said, I feel like terminators don't fit my playstyle. Too slow, and I have better luck with my death company (they survive better by getting into combat so they can't be shot, and eliminate the enemy so there's nothing meaningful to strike back). Love the models, hate how slow they are. Even deep striking they don't have a great chance of landing a charge, and as a blood angels player not missing charges is very important. Sure, I could rapid ingress them, but say I ri 12" out to keep them safe. I move, and it's a 7 inch charge. If the unit i intend to hit with the terminators charges a unit further away, I'm back to most likely not going to land the charge again. They are just too many pts to be worth it. Could maybe use them as a durable home objective holder, but too expensive for that. As slow and as many points as they are they should at least have much higher DMG output at range (their melee is fine). A squad of 5 terminators doesn't have the DMG output of 3 aggressors. They are terminators, they should terminate things both at range and up close.

I’m a grey knights player, and I was the 666th like. It’s all coming together…

Always nurgle if they still have toughness buffs

Here's hoping that Blood Angels will get their own terminators when the codex supplement come out!

Lightning Claws were always a little disappointing for me. Ditch twin-linked, and give it Sustained Hits 2 and +1 base attack to REALLY drive home the fact they murder MEQs and down. Right now it feels too similar in usage to the other options. Units should have their own niche. Make the fists/hammer Str 9 to better hurt Medium vehicles/monsters. Give the hammer Dmg 3 and remove Devastating Wounds. It will still lose to the Chain Fist vs heavy tanks, and the power fist vs MEQs and Lighter. But it will do slightly better vs medium tanks, Monsters, and especially Gravis. You can toss the Devastating Wounds the Chainfist's way if you want to keep it a superior vehicle basher, though you may want to drop the anti-tank to 4 in that case. What you'd end up with is Lightning Claw Assault Terminators out meleeing fist's into most things infantry shaped, Chainfists being king vs vehicles, and hammers being a Gravis and vehicle/monster slayer. Slap on a Primaris level bolter in place of the current storm bolter (so, AP -1, Assault, Heavy to the current stat block. I'd also say +6 inches of range, which Bolt Rifles should have kept), and maybe dare to up the heavy weapons to 2/5 in regular terminators, and you have a shooty hybrid terminator, and a dedicated melee terminator with two distinct modes. Throw in a few other changes, like a slight buff to the Assault Cannon and Heavy Flamer to better compare to the Cyclone, and the units would be fantastic.

Ahem..., Wolf Guard, ignore any or all modifiers and +1 to hit oath of the moment targets making thunder hammers a bit more fun.

I’m biased. I have played grey knights since like 2006 so those have been the best in my mind for 18 years now. I know they aren’t actually the best, I have gotten overconfident plenty of times and had my terminators get wiped on the charge against other terminators. Something about fielding 20-40 silver terminators will always bring a smile to my face though and they do pretty well. Custodes terminators though… I will avoid those like the plague. They are like an ex girlfriend, stay away. I don’t care how much I think I can handle it, I can’t. They will chew me up and spit me out crying. I’ll just keep my distance and take shots.

I will say, Gladius Wolf Guard Terminators do not get nearly the recognition that they deserve. It is not every day you get to make your opponent take 50+ saves at AP -1 ignoring cover out of a single unit.

Unpopular opinion but Terminators need more strength in melee. 5 strength doesnt cut it for Assault squads and for the two who use power weapons.

My poor blightlords, I wish they didn't get done so dirty

Wraithguard

When does guard get their new codex?

I think auspex has a cat! Want pics!!

I find it hard to warrant running any terminators, honestly. The only ones I've ever consistently run were Deathshroud

Wraithguard/blades?

Auspex ranks with the brain. Poorhammer ranks with the heart.

Do the character models!!

I'm glad you made this video, because maybe now GW will see how ugly and old GK Terminators are and give them new models.

I think you seriously underestimate Chaos Terminators. You get sustained hits 5+ with slaanesh on 6 power fists/2 chain fists... Auto re-rolling failed hits as well. You're more often than not hitting more times than the attacks you even have, to the point where it's more like you have 10 power fists and everything else is extra.

Wraithguard could be seen as terminators!

I almost forgot world eaters had terminators

biggest shame is they gave salamader a box but didnt give use fire drake sculpt or rules