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He’s wearing an adidas tracksuit, he’s judging everyone, he hates Will Schuester and he’s sitting in his big spinny chair; how could he *not* be channeling sue sylvester
Remember when Santana called him out for being a Spanish teacher who didn't know spanish, and basically shitting all over her culture. My man sends her out for being disrespectful.
when glee first came out i thought Sue Sylvester was crazy and mean but now i see that she was an iconic activist who was trying to get creepy Spongehair Squarejaw fired from the start
Bessie but she also did some horrible things like the hurt locker episodes where she locked blain and Kurt in a room and pumped in horny gas so they could get together.
I think you were right to put Quinn in the icon tier simply because Dianna added a lot to a rather shallow character. Quinn was written to be an unlikable mean girl, but Dianna made her a complex girl with emotional depth. I am still kinda mad that the show gave her story line so little attention, I think it had a lot of potential and I would've loved to see Quinn grow more as a person.
@@iwakeupandboomimarat I think, and I'm not sure where I heard this, but Ryan Murphy wanted Quinn to remain a pretty one dimensional character and Dianna didn't want that, she wanted for Quinn to be a character with a little more depth to her and Ryan Murphy wasn't a fan of that so he slowly phased Quinn out.
Mr Schue's mind was actually so powerful, the man straight up planted drugs on a student to get him to join the glee club, he was out of control and on another level entirely
@@letsalltakeawalk6906 He snuck up on Finn singing in the shower in the locker rooms and decided he needed him in the Glee club, so he bought weed off a teacher who had been suspended for inappropriate interaction with students and told Finn he'd found it in his locker and if he didn't join the Glee club he'd be kicked out of school - The man was a tyrant 😂
Brooke Forrest that wasn’t glee’s problem, they said that only the actors that wanted to be in the episode would be in the episode... but apparently she couldn’t be there
Burt Hummel did not support and raise Kurt along with be literally the best husband for Finn’s mom for you to disrespect him by putting him as a flop like that
Omg yessss i was chill with everything else he did but like Burt be edging that icon level! Supporting his son and also surviving a heart attack and cancer like wootttt??!!!
She did dr*g and blackmailed Figgins then blackmailed him and then did other illegal things to get her way. Another example is ruining Blaine’s parent’s credit score for not wanting to be a Cheerio. Destroying student’s private property and assaulting them. Sometimes I wonder why haven’t she been taken to court. But I would be lying if I said I completely hated her character sometimes. But some of the things she did were really f*cked up.
For reals after he accused Kurt of cheating in season 3 but then goes and does it as well the following season lol, he defs should be on the second tier for that stunt at least
Idk if he's the most unproblematic person, but he is the person with less screen time. Therefore he can't really do much wrong. He was kinda horrible to Tina during Asian F and the episode where she got knocked out.
Mike Chang had a great storyline with his parents in season 3 and was the best dancer while Terri was crazy by faking a pregnancy and trying to take a students baby instead of being honest.
The Unholy Trinity in icon status???? Yes PLEASE!! Although Rachel is honestly the single most annoying character to ever exist in any television show ever, and I will die on this hill.
Loved the actrice but her character damnnn.... She could be so mean and vicious and in a lot of cases it wasn't at all reasonable. Especially against people who had lots of underlying problems for their behaviour she could really go too far
Casper Enkelaar Yet her character was the most realistic. That’s the real world for ya. Santana is just brutally honest. She wouldn’t sugar coat anything. And that’s what they needed.
Santana and Quinn fighting: Brittany: “Stop the violence” Also the biggest character development of the entire show , was Kurt starting as. Bottom and ending as a Top
newxromantic actually I think he was one of the top people in the glee project like unique joe and Ryder so he was given limited show time (I think that’s how that worked. That the top 4 got to appear but I could be wrong. Either way he was chosen because he was on that show)
@@rmsnews9910 For me Tina is Asian number 1. She should be an icon tho. But probably, Sue was not choosing her as cheerio. It's Black Sue. Idk, I forgot. All icon are indeed cheerios. Klaine, Mercedes, Unholy Trinity, and Miss Holliday can be anyone she wants so she's basically in. Kitty is not on the list, so does the twins but if I need to put them, they're on the same level as Rachel.
Mr Shu was the worst ! Lets not forget how he basically told Emma that he wasn’t sure he wanted to marry her because of her mental disorder and that she wouldn’t be a good mother because of her ocd all to keep her from asking him to marry her a second time and ruin his proposal plan... kind of a scumbag move. 🤷🏻♂️
Spider Ruth it was worse- unique was bullied for being transgender and not being welcomed in the girls toilet. Sue offered unique the key to the staff one if mr schue have up twerking to which he said no. What a grade a lump of shit
Kindle Summers it was the Katy vs Gaga episode is season 5 episode 4 and it was Marley who had an eating disorder btw who didn’t wanna wear revealing clothes
i don’t agree with that, it is understandable if she didn’t want to wear that outfit, so she could just leave that performance and that was it, but no, even when the whole glee club agreed to make a gaga performance she appeared with her katy outfit, and i didn’t understand what she was trying to achieve. perform applause with a katy outfit? she could’ve even picked something else from gaga. she deserved her suspension
I would like to go on a rant. And you don’t have to read it. Mr. Shue was my least favorite character. Not only was he pathetic but he was so discriminatory it made me sick. So here is a list of things I hate about him. 1. He discriminated against Unique in season 4 or 5 and said to “ tone it down with the whole boob thing.” That scene made me silently seethe with anger. He has no right as a straight cisgender man to ridicule a trans student about their gender dysphoria. 2. That episode where he sings Those two songs in Spanish. He perpetuates infuriating stereotypes and when the only Latin American student calls him out on his bullshit he gets upset and says “ she is messing with adult things here.” That’s bull. It was inappropriate and he was in the wrong. But he can never admit that. 3. Back to the Unique thing: Mr. Shue denied a student, bathroom rights because he wanted to have his glee club twerk. That’s just a perfect example of how willing he is to throw others under the bus for his own personal gain. 4. He stole Finn’s Jacket and then proceeded to let a student ( Puck) take the blame. And it was over looked almost entirely. We were to feel sympathy for him. And while I was sympathetic towards the actors and the situation, that storyline was completely inappropriate and unacceptable. 5. This might be the thing that I hate the absolute most. It makes me boil with rage: when his student Marley (who was getting over an eating disorder and had very very low self confidence in her body) was asked to wear a bikini on stage for a number ( which is already inappropriate innit of itself) she refuses and does the number in a dress. She follows up by saying she wasn’t comfortable wearing it. Mr.Shue then proceeds to yell at Marley and basically say that her body image issues were not a problem to him and he was suspending her from the club for the rest of the week. It is just mind boggling to me that students looked up to him. 6. He almost always completely disregarded what songs the group wanted to do. I don’t understand why he was teaching a bunch of kids in a group where they sing songs but when they asked for specific songs, he denied them. Or he would pick a song and when the club was unenthusiastic about it, he yelled at them. The whole point of the glee club, according to him, was to bring kids joy. And he took the joy out of it by constantly making it about him. 7. He put weed in Finn’s locker and then proceeded to not let Finn take a drug test and blackmailed him into joining his club. That’s got to be illegal. 8. Him and Emma. When she’s with Carl, he’s a complete jerk. Carl was actually making her better. He was helping a lot with her OCD. But Shue was constantly trying to prove that he was better, and simultaneously messing her up. He openly mocked her when she was making progress. Whenever she voiced her opinions to him, he overlooked them or manipulated her into changing them. And that one time when she called him a slut (and she was right) her high was short lived and she went back to him in the end. Don’t get me wrong, Emma wasn’t my favorite either. But she deserved better than Will. 9. HE CANNOT RAP!!!!!!!!!!! In conclusion I think that Will Shuester was one of the worst teachers in the history of television and though I love Glee, he and a few other characters made it infuriating to watch. If you made it this far, kudos to you! Feel free to debate whatever I said in the comments. I’m only 12 so who knows? I might not even know what I’m talking about anyway.
while I agree the Marly thing was on her, it had nothing to do with her eating disorder, she was just being a selfish bitch cause she saw Jake getting frisky with Brie and was trying to prove some point that no one knew was going on. She had already overcome her body issues, after the school shooting where kitty confessed to tightening her clothes
Not to mention he would yell at the students saying they were being disrespectful when they came together as a team and brainstormed ideas for songs and threw a tantrum because he didn’t like it and got pissed of at Sam because of how he was coping after the shooting
She did dr*g and r*pe Figgins then blackmailed him and then did other illegal things to get her way. Another example is ruining Blaine’s parent’s credit score for not wanting to be a Cheerio. Destroying student’s private property and assaulting them. Sometimes I wonder why haven’t she been taken to court. But I would be lying if I said I completely hated her character. But some of the things she did were really f*cked up.
Briannasmi i agree that she wasn’t a great person but she never r*ped figgins. she drugged him and then took a picture with him in bed for blackmail but she never r*ped him
I've been on a huge Glee marathon since Naya's disappearance. I stopped watching just before Cory's passing because it moved to Sky when I was a kid (only had freeview). I forgot just how amazing Naya was of a performer, I'm not gay but I'm sure her character really spoke to a lot of people because rewatching her storyline of her accepting her sexuality has had been in tears for a couple days 😭 RIP Naya 🙏🏾💞
The show and especially the gay storylines were so incredibly important to so many people around the world at the time, and even now. It was really iconic.
Actually Sue nearly went to jail when she got fired for trying to shoot Brittany out of a cannon- that sound like the fakest sentence if you haven’t watched the show 😂
I'd love to see you do this again now that you have rewatched the first three seasons and in so much depth. I feel like you'd put Sue as an icon and you'd put Artie as flop now.
I disagree. I don't think Rachel had much talent at all. When you have talent everything comes to you you dont have to make everyone look at you. Everyone just does. To me Rachel is and always will be made to flop.
Nah man, I loved her from the very beginning till the end and I never (not once) thought she was annoying. She was my idol as a teen, I wanted to become Rachel Berry 😂😂 I'm now 22 and rewatching Glee and uuuh, well....Haven't changed my mind one bit. On the contrary I still hate Mercedes and I've now realized Brittany is probably also one of my fav characters.
Both are literally fan favorites and yet people still think they are both underrated when people like Matt, Joe, Rory or EVERY SEASON 6 NEWBIE existed...
nah, mate, Sandy was at least hilariously pathetic. Mr. Shue was just an awkward, rapping blob who was trying to relive his glory days and planted pot in a high schooler’s locker after watching him shower. And then he sung ToXic with a bunch of MiNoRs! And he was constantly terrible to his students! And his hair- don’t get me started- omigod i absolutely cannot... there’s a reason emma ran away from him the first time. Anyways, Sandy is better than Mr. 🥾-ster, and always will be even though he sucks. I know I’m taking this ludicrously seriously, thank you for attending my TED talk.
Becky Harrell I think both of them were terrible because Sandy was actually molesting students, like don’t get me wrong Schue is gross but Sandy actually touched students which is grosser
i despise sebastian. no offense lol, but i cant understand why people like him. he tried throwing a tainted slushie in kurt's face, it ended up hitting blaine. he was constantly hitting on blaine while blaine was still with kurt, he would break multiple rules to intimidate the new directions so that the warblers could win. he was also rude to literally everyone, and not in a santana kind of way. he was just a jerk. he's talented, and i like how he decided to be a bit nicer after dave attempted, but still, i do not like sebastian.
bruh when you look closely, the slushie wasn't aimed at Kurt's face but at his clothes, Blaine got in the way and it accidentally hithim in the face. And Sebastian was EXACTLY Santana kind of jerk, he is basically male Santana. She had much more screentime so it was much easier for her to grow on everybody, but she was just as bad if not worse. She was also ruining other people's relationships (and in her case it was out of spite, not because of her attraction which actually kind of makes it worse), there was the dodgeball incident which once you think about was kind of similar to the slushie, she constantly put everyone down, she betrayed the New Directions, the list goes on. And Sebastian did have some redeeming qualities, he seemed to be quite a good leader and team player for the Warblers and though he did many bad things he did eventually snap out of it, even if it took a suicide attempt. I'm not saying Santana didn't have any because she did, but she really wasn't a better person than him. (Personally I just love them both)
having watched all 6 seasons: btw i put almost all of the season 4 and 6 characters at the bottom because the season 4 cast just disappeared and they created a whole season 6 cast for 13 fricking episodes ICONS: santana, burt, quinn, brittany, sam, mercedes, rory, holly, sue gets to stand on the thing: rachel, jesse, artie, sheldon, mike, becky, unique, joe, sugar, elliot, dani, lauren middle or smthn: puck, kurt, sebastian (i hate the character but smooth criminal), kitty, tina (season 1-3 tina was much better though), terri, figgins, carole, shelby, dave, april flop: finn, blaine, marley, jake, ryder, jane, matt, brody, spencer, mason, alistair, myron, roderick, cassandra, madison will schuester: will 😒 doesn’t even deserve to be this high
@Sydney Paik i really liked blaine in season 2 but just imo his character started to decline in season 3 and just kept going downhill (just my personal thoughts though ofc)
Honestly, the first icon i instantly thought of WAS KURT. his actor had literally never acted before, but the producers liked his personality so much they replaced a different charactor with Kurt and rewrote half the script to fit him in. lol, Glee without Kurt equals DEATH
please don’t come for me but i honestly think Kurt is overrated.i don’t mind him as a character and he has a good personality but he’s i don’t think he has a very good voice. like when he sings(especially in defying gravity) it sounds like he’s holding his nose. i just think they should have given him songs that sounded good with he’s voice. i was always confused when people were saying that he and Rachel were as good as each other. there’s a lot more members that i think we’re better than him like: Rachel Mercedes Santana Quinn Blain and some others that i can’t remember
Noah06 oh for sure. he’s my fave characters but his voice is not the best. out of the males, it’s definitely up there, bested by blaine, jessie, sam, artie too tbh. i don’t think finn is all that great. but rachel, mercedes, santana, all better. he does have an amazing and unique voice though!! but it’s suited to very particular songs.
