Ranking the Bosses of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance from Worst to Best 

I respectfully disagree with your take that Sam wasn’t a coherent character. The reason why Sam switches sides so easily is that he’s having a hard time believing in anything. After being defeated by Armstrong, he’s just accepted that the violence is the only thing he really cares about. It doesn’t matter who’s side he’s on anymore. I think his goal wasn’t ever to make Raiden feel bad about killing, but the opposite. To bring out Jack the Ripper, and make Raiden lose his moral philosphy, his identity, just like Sam did. In the end, he let Wolf give Raiden the sword because he didn’t harbor any loyalty for Armstrong. He didn’t care which side won. ”Let history decide who is right”

I don't think it's possible to dislike Armstrong's fight

correction: you actually don’t have to use an emp grenade on monsoon. i didn’t even know you could, in fact. if you perfect parry one of his attacks (signaled by an automatic counterattack) you immediately stun him and get free damage

I like Sundowner's fight, aside from Armstrong he's the only boss that requires you to use blade mode with precision instead of just slashing at a hitbox

Sam is definitely the top for me, just because its a classic boss battle, No Bs Moonsoons, no mini gekko, no shields, not too much qte, and no nanopaste/healing mid fight. Just Raiden, Sam and the Sunset

I legit didnt know how to parry in this game till the Monsoon fight, I used the slide attack as a dodge up till that point. I couldn't beat Monsoon that way, and eventually learned that I could parry (although I got very close to beating him)

Another thing to consider for the bosses and something that makes Armstrong unique is that you slice and dice most bosses to pieces after their battle. However, Armstrong is defeated by slice his heart and ripping out his power source like you would do to most basic enemies. You literally put down the final boss like any basic enemy, and this shows how strong you are!

If you listen to the codec calls, it tells you about how excelsus was built to counter cyborgs with overwhelming force, hence the massive size.

I love monsoon’s voice lines too. There’s just so much passion in the way he talks and yells during the fight.

Wish Sundowner had a bigger health bar, possibly more damage. Aside from that? His moveset is great, neat enough gimmick. The bigger health box would improve him a lot. Good list, man. Now, the real question: which boss has the best theme?

Wayyyyy better than the list the DeModcracy’s list, you love to see it 👏

One aspect you missed about Monsoon’s boss fight is that it teaches you to parry. I bet 80% of players didn’t know how to parry until they got to Monsoon. You could use evading easily up until then, but when Monsoon lobs those smoke grenades, it’s all over. The fight literally forces you to learn how to parry and helps you by doing so. Take Sundower for example, he’s supposed to teach you how to be precise with blade mode, but you can evade his shield moves so who cares? You don’t have to learn! And when you wake up fighting Armstrong you suddenly realize you cannot defend yourself from him lunging pieces of EXCELSUS at you. Monsoon however forces you to learn his niche, unlike Sundowner.

Grad fight is actually like hell in revengeance like literally the hardest boss to no damage in the game i swear.

Only thing I disagree with here is your opinion on Sam's theme. I think it is great.

Great video, so much better than the garbage version of this that theDeModcracy made. Unlike him, I can tell you understand character action games. Earned yourself a new sub!

15:28 Fun fact, he actually has another line of dialogue that he says here sometimes. I’m not sure if it’s caused by something or random, but sometimes he says “Do as you please.” with a threatening tone like he isn’t scared of death (which makes more sense)

An interesting thing to note from the monsoon fight at 15:28: Monsoon actually has two different lines of dialogue here, one is the "stop it!" that you showed in the video, but there is an alternate line where he says "do as you please." Personally, I almost always get the second one, so I'm not sure if theres something specific that triggers it or if its entirely random

i think just a couple simple changes could make sundowner's fight much better. make him actually "fuckin' invincible" when he his shield isn't broken, forcing you to cut it down to deal any form of damage give him a larger health pool have him fight mano-a-mano when his shield goes down

$5 to whoever leaves the 100th comment about Metal Gear Excelsus not being a metal gear as cited by the codec entry. Let the games begin! Current number: 73

funny thing about excelsus, it's not actually a metal gear, in one of the codec calls you find during the fight it's confirmed it's called Metal Gear Excelsus just so it sells better

For Excelsus, it's actually explained in a Codec call that it is only has the label "Metal Gear" as part of a PR (Public Relations) thing. It is also meant to be used against cyborgs using overwhelming firepower (excluding Raiden, because he is a badass)

I know I'm late to this but I'm pretty sure it's explained in the codecs during Excelsus' fight that it was created specifically for head to head combat and it was given the name 'Metal Gear' specifically for fear tactics. They also explain many other advantages that it would have in a warzone; buildings in the way? Just walk over them, regular cyborgs that are commonly used for war? Just watch them try to destroy this thing. Excelsus could literally enter a warzone and destroy everything easily, Raiden was probably the only person in the world who could destroy it single-handedly just because of how insanely powerful he is and even then, he had to slowly tear it apart piece by piece and even use its own sword against it in the end to destroy it.

The Hot wind blowing is honestly up as one of the top 3 themes in the game. I will die on this hill.

Monsoon had a hard childhood as the song kind of says that, so when he says "stop it!" Or "do as you please." Might be a throwback to when he was a child and had a hard childhood. As he let's you kill him and also goes into peace after the fight. Truly implying that he was ready to go and never feared death.

The sai makes most bosses so easy. You can just latch onto the hammerhead and hit it close up without doing any platforming or using any missiles, if you stun a GRAD and then use regular attacks while waiting for the sai to recharge its the perfect time for you to just stun it again and it can't fight back, it stuns Monsoon so you can hit his head instead of perfect parrying or using an EMP grenade, it goes through Sundowner's shield, they're broken

i really hoped that when monsoon died his body parts would lose their magnetic power and he'll fall apart like a lego game

Not sure if this is well known, but you can basically cheese almost the entire Khamsin fight by doing a mid air heavy attack (the spinny wheel move) right before he attacks and then immediately follow up with three light attacks. You’ll stay in the air during his attack and almost always dodge it entirely.

I despise Sundowner. It's because it took me an astonishing 8 hours (40ish minutes per run) of combined gameplay to S tier him and the entirety of his level on revengeance. You have to hold back so much to: Not break his shields too fast so you can take out two helis so they dont trouble you in the 2nd phase Not kill him before he can spawn atleast 1 set of enemies Like no damage doesnt even get you an S tier because he just dies too fast that I often found myself switching to the wooden blade so he can just live a bit longer.

Him:”the fight constantly changes from Armstrong’s and Raiden’s favor” Very hard mode Senator fight: Well yes,but actually no

I may not personally agree with a lot of this list, but it was an entertaining watch and fun to see another perspective on the fights.

I remember one time playing the excelsus fight in the 360 version of the game and getting knocked out of his arena entirely and then I could kinda just run wherever but if I jumped the floor rose with me so I was effectively able to fly and see the entire area and excelsus off in the distance. I think I still have a picture of it somewhere on my phone but regardless it’s one of my favorite memories of this game because of how weird it was.

Good video. My list would be 10. Sundowner: EXTREMELY UNDERWHELMING. It's very, VERY easy. The only thing that could be kinda difficult is to cut the shields, BUT YOU CAN LITERALLY SKIP THAT PART. For a Character as treathening and important in the story as Sundowner, you would expect a much better fight, but they gave us this. This fight being so simple and easy would make sense if it was at the start of the game. BUT IT'S LITERALLY ONE OF THE LAST BOSSES. It's not even fun because of how easy it is. 9. Metal Gear EXCELSUS: It's a decent fight, but it doesn't come close to the other ones. All the attacks are repetitive and boring. They are just "parry the shit out of this thing, then hit it" or "Run, then hit". At least it can be challenging in VH or Revengeance difficulty. Oh, and the vocals of the OST only play when you're Zandatsu-ing it. That shit made the fight a lot worse for me at least. 8. Metal Gear RAY: It's an epic fight, but can be kinda slow and boring in high difficulties because of how weak Raiden is at this point of the story. At least it's kinda difficult on higher difficulties. In revengeance, just one hit of this massive machine can kill you, making you start the fight all over again. Again, is not as near as great as the others but is a good start to the game. 7. Wolf: I actually really like this fight, but i gotta say, it's actually nothing special. Is just a mini boss put halfway through the level so the player can learn how to parry. And that's it. It can be actually very difficult the first time you play of course, specially beacuse the difficulty of the game spikes when you reach this fight, but other than that is probably the easisest fight in the game (at least is more fun than Sundowner's fight). 6. Mistral: Your first real boss fight in the game. It has 3 phases, each one of them with different moves, so repetitive attacks are not a problem here. My personal issue with this fight is that it isn't really spectacular, and it doesn't has a lot of weight in the story. Sure, Mistral's death is brutal and it's really cool to fight her in the burning refinery, but damn. It's not as spectacular as Armstrong's fight, and it doesn't have the weight that Sam's fight has (you don't know Mistral from anything. She's just a french chick that gives you a short uninteresting talk before her fight, then you kill her). And in terms of difficulty, the little Gekkos can be annoying in VH or Reevengeance but that's it. It's pretty meh and boring. 5. Armstrong (Sam DLC): This is, BY FAR, the hardest boss. I can kill every boss on Revengeance difficulty, even no damaging most of them, and i still struggle to beat this guy on Hard. He does a lot of damage. He has A LOT of range. A TON of life. And he nevers give you a break. Really a hard boss. I enjoy it tho, and it's one of my favourites bosses, but i still think the other bosses are better. Really nice and fun boss nonetheless. 4. Khamsin (from now on, these are the top tier bosses): Really fun and enjoyable boss. It's like MG RAY boss fight but in reverse. You don't chase the mech, NOW HE CHASES YOU! His attacks can be predictable, and most of them are parryable, but they still can be tricky to avoid, specially because he executes them in succession. Also, this shit is amazing. There's something really cool about this fight. Maybe it's the god tier soundtrack (my favourite in the game, i wish the lyrics kicked in earlier tho), or the really cool animations, or the fact that you're being chased by a big mech wielding a giant turbo axe controlled by a Guile looking soldier while he gives you speeches about freedom. I don't know man. It's just really cool and it maybe even be my favourite boss. Also, this boss could be as hard as DLC Armstrong if he didn't give you so many heal items. 3. Sam: Just before the final boss fight, you have one last encounter with your rival. A duel to death between the two most skilled swordsmen in the Metal Gear universe (sorry Gray Fox). This is the fight with the most weight in the game, besides Armstrong, and besides, it's fucking awesome. It's really dinamic and requires you to be focused, because he loves to throw you a ton of attacks and counterattacking yours, so you need to choose really well the moment to get agressive, and the moment to get defensive. Amazing fight. 2. Armstrong: This fight is really fucking epic. It's the climax of the game, where you finally face the big boss (no pun intended) of the game, and you both fight like animals, throwing punching at each others to determine who's right. The fight actually isn't difficult at all. In Revengeance it can be hard if you got no heals, but if that's the case you just need to survive and drop his healthbar to 150%, and then you geat a lot of cures. Still, even if it's not really hard, it's fucking awesome. And the cutscenes before and after this fights are the best ones in the game, and maybe even in the whole game industry. 1. Monsoon: The best one. Period. If Wolf was the boss in charge of forcing the player to learn to parry, this boss is the one that checks how much you really have learnt. This boss fight is the real wall that determines if you can move forward to the game or keep stuck until you get better. This fight requires you to do a lot of things. Zandatsuing, parrying, dodging, and even throwing objects, all with a kickass soundtrack in the background. Also, i said Mistral was uninteresting because she was just a hot french girl who you barely knew, and felt just like an obstacle more than a character. Well, Monsoon is the opposite. Even if they never give you real context on who he is, he still makes a great job introducing himself and being a memorable character. Those cutscenes are just exquisite, like the man himself would say.

For monsoon I never got the “stop it stop it!” I always got “go ahead, do your worse!” So that’s surprising

The best part about the Blade Wolf DLC is that Blade Wolf sleeps whenever he goes idle.

3:54 according to lore EXCELSUS was only given the metal gear title to sell better which I find funny. Also did you know you can parry EXCELSUS's giant sword.

You know the game's got an amazing soundtrack when you are too busy singing along and have to re-watch parts to hear what you said haha

The theory of "It has to be this way" actually being raidens theme makes a lot of sense once you put extensive thought into it. With every other characters theme, you'll notice it almost seems as if they would be singing the lyrics in reference to themselves. Mistral talking about "finding what I was looking for" or Sam not truly knowing what he's fighting for anymore, and even Sundowners beliefs that machines and war will prevail. Collective Consciousness makes more sense as the senators theme as it talks about controlling the masses as you'd expect from a corrupt political figure such as himself. Raiden realizing that both him and Armstrong are fostering eachothers violence without being able to stop without stopping thier own mission makes perfect sense when looking into the lyrics of the song.

Great video! I was looking for someone that had done this and I wasn’t disappointed. Although I would have liked it even more if you ranked the Sam DLC boss fights too (MG Ray, Blade Wolf and Armstrong), even though they are very similar to the ones in the main game, they still have some differences (specially the Armstrong one) and they are played differently thanks to Sam’s more patience and heavy attack based move set. It would have been very interesting to see which of the two variants of the boss fight you prefered (which I guess would be the originals but still, you get the point).

Mistral is underrated af. Mechanically complex and the arena changes with each phase. I also like how she actually bothers to counter blade mode, unlike most other bosses. The dwarf gekkos are definitely a bit annoying though. I don't mind them being there, but I wish they were less aggressive and wouldn't drop healing units. Would make S ranks less infuriating but normal fights more challenging.

My list: 9. MG Excelsus 8. Sundowner 7. Mistral 6. Khamsin 5. Bladewolf 4. MG Ray 3. Monsoon 2. Sam 1. Armstrong

Metal Gear Exelceus isn't actually a metal gear. Codec call downright says it was only called one for marketing purposes with it. just a fun fact I felt if comment

Just so you're aware, Boris mentions that metal gear excelsus is not actually a metal gear and that calling it that is just a PR stunt

3:09 You can actually get 3 nanopastes at the beginning of the fight, One is inside a box near the stairs where raiden goes to continue the main game, the other two are closer to the steps inside the building (You collected one, but the 3rd is on the other direction)

15:04 The move that he uses in this ifase is actually pretty easy to parry but if you dont parry it then say goodbye to a GOOD PART OF YOUR HEALTH

Monsoon is definitely my favorite member of the winds of the destruction, but his fight has way to many slow bits that hurt the flow of the fight. I think they should of removed the trash wheel from it completely, it’s unbelievably easy to avoid and it just feels like pointless padding. The part when he throws vehicles at you goes on for to long and it’s way to easy to run away from it. Other then that his fight is perfect. My biggest gripe so with the Armstrong fight is the part on top of the metal gear, trying to no damage him is nearly impossible because of that.

Finally I found someone who likes monsoon, also I like this tier list, keep on the good exquisite videos

I think Monsoon being so high is interesting, also I used to think his name was "Monsoom"

I wish this game was on PS4 😭 the last time I played it was a WHILE man.

If you aren't aggressive/don't use an EMP in the Monsoon fight, he will say "Do as you please." Before you slice him to pieces.

I'd give Khamsin a spot up, only for one reason. His line delivery is very good, and really hammers his motive in through it alone.

Cool vid man I would just personally swap sam with Ray but still great list

You included the unmanned gear bosses too? Noice.

Would've liked to see you fighting ray in very hard or revengeance to really showcase all of the places where you can use blade mode on him. Cutting his tail off is really cool.

Yep, this is an amazing list. By the way, I wonder what your opinion on GaMetal's covers of "It Has To Be This Way" and "The Stains of Time" are?

Man, FAVORITE GAME, nah this is the only cannon game in the series

hey love your review of bosses rank and mostly agree but when it comes to the Sam rank I mostly agree at least with gameplay , the main problem with his gameplay is that in his in phase 3 he can randomly shoot rocks from almost any distance and often is straight up an guarantee hit, (I am speaking from experience after fighting Sam on very hard, no upgrades with default sword,) outside of that, I think his fight I think was basically perfect, however you did write say about how you dislike his character, and while it is fine to have that opinion, I have to disagree with you on this,( it been a while since I played it so I might miss something) my interpretation of Sam was that he was like Raiden at the start of the main story, Sam denies the truth of the matter and believes he can stop World Marshall and stop the system, however when at first loses to Armstrong and the proganda that both him and Monsoon feeds Sam(much like how they did to Raiden in Denver prior to the Monsoon boss fight) however what separates him from Raiden is the difference in choice, when Sam was confronted by the fact he might not be able to stop World Marshall and such, he decides to join Armstrong and loses his sense of honor only fighting for self improvement in combat because in his mind, there is no significant change that is possible, so might as well join them to improve himself in fighting the only the "he knows for real", because of this, he and monsoon tries to show something that Raiden denies that he enjoys killing and the violence, however unlike Sam, Raiden comprises himself, and decides he may enjoy the violence but he will use it for good and won't comprise his ideals of fighting for justice and improvement of the world even it hurts some people, unlike Sam. moving to the Sam boss fight, when sam fights Raiden it is said in one of the codex calls " it is a battle of the wills" so when Raiden says "I have more enough cause for killing you" Sam realizes he will prob lose(this is why he says "good I like that", as the reason Sam won in the first time was due to Raiden's self conflict. In the end Raiden is given his sword, due to being the one Sam always wanted to be, the one who can make a difference in the world as Raiden fights a representative of government Tl;DR Sam and Raiden have their separate hero journies. Sam fails his, Raiden succeeds at what Sam failed at, keeping his ideals while accepting the problem. it all suppose to parallel the whole issue with 21th century politics never ending stagnation, Sam is the people who believe no change is possible and stays obediently behind the politics, Raiden is the opposite is willing to change while also understand he is not an ideal person and such that at least my interpretation, I would like to see an opposing view if you disagree with me.

Damn, I am wondering who's gonna be in the first place, can't wait to see the result

I think you were trying to say: in a surprising twist he was augmented with nanomachines, SON!

FINALLY someone who agrees that mg ray's boss fight is in the top 3, and tbh this has to be the first tier list that I can 100% agree on the placements of the bosses although the story reasons you stated for Sam's is kind of off in my opinion.

one of the rare things i really agree with about MGRR. very good

13:32 finaly someone who understands monsoon is the best and 14:2 you may be my favorite mgr youtube dude

I would put ray below sam and mistral but thats why we have opinions, great vid

I 100% agree with your take on Sundowner deserving a better fight, his actual fight was so disappointing to me I'd actually rank it as my least favorite unless you include the helicopter

Overall great video, surprisingly underrated. Your choices are almost 1:1 with mine, my only difference being that I'd swap Mistral and Blade Wolf - the Dwarf Gekkos were a bit of a pain in the ass to micromanage, but I'm more of a one-on-one fight kinda guy, so the difference in choice is understandable. Also quick sidenote; you can also use Monsoon's Sai to immediately stun him once he enters his immunity phases after his Lorentz force throws! (By hitting the heavy attack button at a distance while locked onto him.) Although I see you're a fan of the *Fuckin' Invincible* blades, which is a beyond respectable choice.

Imagine if Sundowner just blocks all your hits and you actually have to destroy the shields to progress, would be a really cool concept and would make a better use for his shields

I didn't learn how to truly parry until either Armstrong or LQ-84I on the Sam DLC up until then I was just guessing that pressing some buttons between WASD and Click did it.

The thing about Sundowner is that he plays into that Southern stereotype, as he is from Alabama; what he says and first seems to be is not what he truly is, as that is only a cover-up to the reverse - his bravado is meant to be hypocritical, he uses all these cheap tactics because he ain't actually that good at fighting, after all he runs away as long as he can because he fears you. Monsoon took Raiden head on, while Sundowner flew to the top floor where everything can come to his advantage - he has special gear in the form of those shields, helicopters, can call in extra enemies and he only pretends to having been beaten, to then surprise attack Jack with the Slider.

Every major boss in the game: I have a real long explanation on why I’m doing this! Sundowner: I just wanna murder

The point of mg excelsus was for a more anti cyborg role rather than a nuke carrying or anti mg role, wich is why excelsus's main weapons are big swords, and two massive laser cannons.

That ending cutscene is actually my Wallpaper on my computer. It's so good.

I love sundowner’s monologue way more than monsoon’s, sundowner just has so much charismatic douchebag energy it’s great but monsoon’s monologue feels like pointless rambling at some points, and I always payed attention to sundowner’s monologue, but yeah, his fight is underwhelming, he deserved so much more, my poor boy

It's a thunderstorm right now and as soon as I saw "2. Monsoon" some thunder suddenly came up, the best entrance by monsoon by far

5:37 spot. on. I learnt really quickly that I could beat him by just running circles around him in ninja mode and going for quick cuts. Was it slow? Yes. But it was soooo easyyy. I'll have to go back and beat him 'the intended way', but since I've upgraded so much now, I expect a shoveover.

Actually, if you were to S rabk Monsoon, he has one more chip of dialogue after you beat his face in. "Do as you please!" Monsoon straight up says that you're top dog, slice him down as you like. You beat him good, so it's only natural to give respect to the top dog. You can dig into this a lot more than me, so speak away. Edit: My ranking goes as following, not including Grad and Hammerhead since we know those are the worst bosses. 9: Sundowner - Sundowner might be a great marmonger with his "Give War A Chance" mantra, but he feels like he's at the bottom of the Winds of Destruction. He's just a warmonger, that's it. 8: Khamsin - Khamsin isn't very far from Sundowner, as his "faceless soldier" persona mirrors the warmonger Sundowner is. The only reason why I put him higher than Sundowner is his similarity to Blade Wolf. Both being ready made killing machines, one quite literally and the other being made into such over time. Plus, Khamsin might be angry at Blade Wolf for attempting to defy superiors, because soldiers should not do that, so he fights Blade Wolf. 7: Mistral - Mistral has a similar explanation to your take, but only reason why she's lower down is because of the soundtrack, which spams the "Here I come!" line way too much. 6: MG Ray - MG Ray's "Rules of Nature" theme might be one of the reasons it's in the middle. Developed not too much but enough that it seems like a good character if it weren't a fvcking nuke robot. 5: MG Excelsius - So uh, Fun fact: MG Excelsius is given the MG title to sell better! This fun fact fits with Collective Consciousness which talks about living in ignorance and purchasing your happiness. (That was intended. This boss was carried by the soundtrack and soundtrack alone, which is a straight up banger.) 4: Bladewolf - He's a metal dog, wanting to experience freedom because his creators didn't grant him such a luxury. Why wouldn't I love this character? 3: Monsoon - Literally your reasons. 2: Jetstream Sam - He's a being resembling cowboys and samurai if they were combined. His body may be human, but his identity refers to him as a being. Love this character. 1: Senator Armstrong - Your reasons. Also the fact that Armstrong actually cares for his people, with his mantra of "Let people fight their own wars."

It's been a while so correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure the whole point of excelsis was not to be effective, rather it was supposed to cause extreme collateral damage and be threatening. Though I may be mixing up a few games so take it with a pretty hefty pinch of salt.

I like sam the best because if you play well enough you can get no damage which you cant really do with other bosses because of their cheese, but hes still really hard which i like.

Don't forget Armstrong fucking punting Raiden like a kickball

The sundowner fight kind of disappointed me. Especially after the huge build up. But I really liked the music playing and the fact that I get to chop him up at the end

When I was fighting blade wolf i didnt know how you heal using electrolites yet so I Just tried to survive

I specifically waited to damage Sundowner until after I destroyed his shield, and then I beat him flawlessly by spamming quick attacks and auto-parrying. At least Excelsus took more than spamming one button.

Bosses that allow you to land counterattacks can easily be dealt with via a quick Ripper Mode activation as you're moving to land the attack, as it can take a huge chunk of their bar in one attack, which is perfect for the Sam fight on any difficulty. I even saw someone one-shot Sundowner by doing this, the boy got punked HARD.

Fun fact about Monsoon, if you don’t use EMPs during the fight, he has some different voice lines towards the end of the fight

The blade wolf DLC boss gives me the vibes that he thinks soldiers should blindly follow orders, and ironically has fallen into the same fate

I agree with the MG Excelsus rank, but one thing that’s stated in game is the fact that it’s only called a “Metal Gear” for the sake of marketing (military companies might be more willing to buy and pay more for them) and inciting fear.

Funny thing about the "MG" Excelsus, It isn't classified as a Metal Gear, it's just called one for namesake.

3:54 fun fact: MG Exelcius (I don’t know if I spelled that word right) is not actually a metal gear, the people in cannon who made it just called it a metal gear to make it sell better.

If you wanna get to the 2nd phase faster with sundowner its easy because cutting the 2 first shields is relatively easy enough but the last shield he takes forever to bring it out just run at him and use a heavy attack and raiden will slide right at him yhis will immediately get him to pull out his shield and if you got enough time use blade mode and cut the shield

I think what he says about sundowner is true, I mean when I was trying to get the "truly human" achievement (which is to beat sundowner on hard or above without being hit) he would sometimes just instantly that made me take damage which pissed me off soooo much (when I say he uses his shield I has explosive shields so when impact it explodes) But I finally got the achievement after restarting time after time

There are some mods out there that make Sundowner a genuinely terrifying enemy.

Sam I think is best enjoyed at high difficulty under the unspoken rule of this particular boss. A lot of players (myself included) out of respect for the character and the duel will turn off nanopastes and will only use the HF Blade, Murasama, or the wooden sword against him. You should try it, it makes this battle exhilarating.

Some more evidence for it has to be this way being raiden's theme is when you fight armstrong with Sam the song that plays is collective consciousness

My friend’s favorite wind of destruction is monsoon,but mine is sundowner

monsoon is honestly my favourite character other than raiden, hes cool, the voice is so great, and oml, the character designer i am is going feral. his whole "quirk" is just so well made.

i agree with your thoughts on monsoon

Adding on to the theory of It has to be this way being Raidens theme, Collective Conciousness is also perceived to be from Raidens perspective of armstrong. Raiden initially believes that armstrong wants to perpetuate the Patriots goals of a unified nation without individuals (as does Jetstream Sam when he fights armstrong, believing the same thing where armstrong wants to have a hivemind) but during the fight on top of EXCELSUS there's a lack of an actual theme and it's just the generic battle music before the final phase where Raiden realizes that armstrong is right, but "it has to be this way" and armstrong inevitably needs to die then and there

Sam is my top 1 boss, a honest boss that shows how much skill you got

If monsoon have exploding meta shield :💀

Played through this game recently Sundowner gave me more trouble than Monsoon ever did, but at the same time I was lousy at aiming with blademode

As awesome as armstrong is, i gotta say, the move where he charges his fist and hits the ground is pretty bullshit. That move can lead to the ground exploding in a line (which he sometimes immediately does a second time), the ground exploding in the shape of a circle, the ground exploding in a line but lava keeps bursting from the ground forming some sort of deadly wall or he can form cracks in the ground that burst out lava for a moment after a few seconds. All those different moves have the exact same tell and you can never know which one it is except for the very first one at the start of the fight which is almost always the single line version (usually he does it twice). While all the versions of this move are very cool, when playing on revengeance where everything one shots you they feel very poorly designed. Also when he charges at you with his fist for the qte cutscene, to me it seems like its random which one youll get (tho it might be based on the parry timing)

#10 - #2 - honestly doesn’t matter, your opinions are each as valid as one another #1 - Senator Armstrong. It is illegal to disagree with this.