RARE JAPANESE ZERO DOGFIGHT Demonstration 

too slow. the American fighters could dictate terms of engagement with their superior speed

@@epeon7 nailed it

@@epeon7 It became slow as the war progressed and the Allies planes became faster. Early on it wasn't slow at all. The problem is that the Japanese could never increased its speed significantly.

@@growlanser5600 - the zero was not designed to be fast. It had too much wing. secondly, the Japanese never had the fuel octane that the Americans did. The japanese had, at best, 84 Octane. The Americans were running 100 Octane early in the war and eventually got to 150 Octane (though I don't think they used that in the Pacific, not sure).

A6M had many weaknesses, first was the Japanese expectation that maneuverability in the slow envelop was more important than anything else. It was a horribly difficult aircraft to get to maneuver at any speed over 250 mph. The Japanese dictated very low wing loading (one of the many reasons its range was so impressive) due to their lack of engine options, which was a distinct advantage in reducing stall speed (their obsession with slow flight characteristics), landing on an aircraft carrier, dog fighting, etc. In the end, the greatest weakness of the Zero was its design allowed for almost no significant upgrades. Of all the major combat aircraft of the war, the ability to upgrade against new threats was the defining attribute of a successful design. The Zero was brilliant for about 6 months, after that it was outclassed by just about every fighter aircraft the allies put up. Before the North Australian Air War (the Darwin campaign), the Zero had a 12 to 1 kill ratio advantage. Just before Coral Sea, the Americans and Australians flying the P40E had a 1 to 1 kill ratio against the Zero. The last true hurrah of the Zero in kill ratio was against the obsolete torpedo bombers launched off Midway and the Yorktown, Enterprise and Hornet. Against the F4F in the same battle, Thatch's 6 fighters achieved a 3 to 1, and US fighters of all types never really fell below a 1 to 1 for the rest of 1942. After that, it was lights out for the Zero. Interesting design, but very limited options for improvement, and for a long war it was incredibly substandard.

Remove the word turning. Dont get into a fight with a zero period...shoot them down with suprise and run away.

I love how spitfire pilots ignored this statement coming from USA pilots and began to die horribly in turn fights against Japanese planes

@@getehrwolf6111 It made sense; the British were used to out-turning any German fighter they went up against, whether in the Hurricane or the Spitfire. Even a veteran pilot would expect to out-turn any plane he faced. Then they got out-turned by the most min/maxed plane of the war in terms of turning. Lesson learned (should have listened).

F*#@ around and find out

Pilot gigachadson thundercockpit of the 17th based air force won a turnfight with a zero in a B17

Yes it is

it really is. i wish i knew how to fly a plane, especially one as badass and nimble as the Zero.

but if in ww2 it will never be beautiful as today

..and F4U Cursair

@Midnight Dreary indeed.

@Nonya Buziness no risk, no fun

@Nonya Buziness lol you pathetic PC game kiddy. Did your mom let you out if the basement yet?

When I was child I liked BF109 and other German planes; but later (when I constructed a balsa model zero) I learn to appreciate its beauty lines and harmony of it's structure. For me the zero is one of the top planes of his time; well proved in fights and feared by adversaries.

Max Frankow Japanese planes were some of the most maneuverable planes of world war 2

+Tristen Barton Yea, in real life these Zeros gave the Wildcats more than they could handle.

+Robert Elmo they had better tactics and an aircraft that could turn at low speed and accelerate...that came at a cost

The flying tigers were blowing them out of the sky in china in P40s. Before Pearl Harbor. The zero had nothing to protect the pilot thats why it wad so maneuverable. Thats one reason japan lost the war, all of their best pilots we're gone by 1944 maybe earlyer.

@@Tmax-ub5br Completely false. The P-40s fought Ki-43s in China, not Zeros. The Ki-43 was even more maneuverable than the Zero and more than a good match for the P-40. The Zero was superior to the P-40 at everything except armament and armor.

i prefer the Corsair myself but the Zero does have its good points.

I see people discussing their admiration for them. However, I haven't seen anyone claiming to be an expert on them.

Not really. We just know our history.

Their knowledges coming from war thunder and wowp LOLOL

@@i_nameless_i-jgsdf lol true, they probably only know anything about them because of that

Unless they were actually THERE during WW2, against the Zero's, these comments/commenters on here wouldn't know JACK SHIT!

And that is Hellcat pilots scored so many early kills...

@@IMSJoseCuervo till Thach came thru anyway

I love both, each one with your own charm :)

how can humans see em fighting from a very high altitude, that is why they kept a suitable level

Nope typical "murica" propaganda and why is a white guy flying the zero, oh yeah to prove a point that he doesn't know shit about dogfighting and the fix was in from the start, sorry history tells a different story.

Whoa there pal, It would be a very boring demonstration is they were actually fighting at a high altitude where the wildcat may have stood a chance. People on the ground couldn't see anything. And the airplane was rebuilt in America, so of course an American is going to be flying it. He knows shit about dog fighting. And there was no "fix" because it wasn't a real fight, of course the zero could win that battle if he wanted to. It's a very rare aircraft so its not going going to be stressed with a lot of gs or the possibility of it stalling/crashing especially over a crowd of people. If the demonstration was done in Japan with Japanese pilots, I'm sure the zero would have been on the tail of wildcat, and guess what, no one would give a shit.

This is like the Civil War reenactments in the south. The good guys always won and Yankee hord is sent running.

NOT IF YOU WERE FLYING THE ZERO...

Same

If you look round they have a bunch of documentaries from japanese pilots and their opinions on american planes and their own planes

One of Japan's leading aces met his end with the first meeting of an F6F. If it assumed he thought it was an F4F, he tried to stall it and hammerhead for a kill. He had done this tactic many times before... Unfortunately the F6F kept climbing and shot him down.

Re. 2005 too

+William Replica Zero with some original parts and an R-1820 engine.

not exactly... the wildcat had much better armament ... my Dad flew the Pacific theatre with the 5th Army AirCorps and said that the Zero could make tighter turns and had that advantage but by 1943 the Japanese pilots were inexperienced in dogfights and went down in dozens like they did when we blew them out of the sky during the Marianas Turkey Shoot ...

Robert Walters - in the hands of an inexperienced pilot even an Me-262 would be blown away by a Wildcat. What plane did your dad fly?

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hXk5zTq1elo.html go to 9:30

Desktop Turtle - that’s the F6F Hellcat.

keep watching

sr633 Yes.

Hellcats were also flying tanks very hard to kill with the zeros 20 mm maybe but the 12.7 and 7 mm junk that they had no way..

Look at the statistics!! the F4F had a 6 to 1 kill ratio over the zero in dog fights!

If i was a f4f pilots facing a zero i would go up since i know the zero slower it means it will stall quicker and when it does so wil i and i would turn my rutter and shoot him from behaind only if iam lucky fir the zero not to shoot me down during the going straight up part

@@valentinjigau9042 Just the opposite is true. Get your facts straight before you post.

@@alfbeef5880 F4F Wild cat. Hellcat is F6F

その分装甲がね…

性能はともかく美しさトップクラス

にせ。。。

Indeed. But I’ve been finding it nicer and easier in time, for me to shoot down Japanese planes with let’s say P-51s and even P-40s.

Intentional they do it at airshows all the time spraying oil into the hot exhaust causing white smoke as it burns

Yes but in a turning dog fight the Hellcat would lose every time

@@alanholloway1264 F6F pilots fought Zero's in the vertical and avoided turn fights. It's why the F6F had such a high kill ratio against the Zero. If a Zero did get on an F6F's 6 o'clock, the Hellcat pilot would either dive, climb or roll to escape. Zero's could not match the F6F in those maneuvers.

Scott in Ohio, there are expert opinions available that can make most people with normal intelligence, very informed individuals on many different subjects, although a few don't know much. I'm surprised that your not aware of this.

@@olderthanyoucali8512 My father wa in one of the first groups to go to the ETO ,he flew 104 missions ,he then came home and was a test pilot!!! There are more internet experts than any other group in the world!!!!!!

Wildcat and hellcat

***** Wildcat only, there was no Hellcat in that demonstration.

+'Nam Vet The dark colors threw him off.

That's not the Grumman F4F, it's General Motor FM-2 Wildcat. The FM-2s have the higher tail than the F4Fs

builted?

i think it was to immitate a wounded engine/plane

jaja!!

NabelZiel obviusly!

FroztiProductions As said above, it's just an effect to mimic damage/engine trouble. All it is is a particular oil that, when mixed with the hot exhaust of the engine, evaporates and makes smoke. The Blue Angels, Thunderbirds, Snowbirds, Red Arrows, etc. use the same smoke effect, but for different purposes.

@@lamella64 They usually have an injection system that introduces paraffin, or some combusible oil, into the hot exhaust gases, to emulate a bullet/tracer bullet-damaged engine or the like. Not exactly realistic, but the dramatic intentions were there for visual purposes..

Starts at 3:41 . Of course, they don't shoot at each other, and typically the Zero is on the Wildcat's tail, of course.

There's a few, like 1 or 2 out there with the original engine. Many more with just the frame, and the best replica of the engine we can manage.

Tao Kaka I agree👍👍👍

Tao Kaka There is only a few more left on the world and that's the only one that works

Tao Kaka this one is a replica, it has original landing gear and that's pretty much it.

I love your profile pic Galm Team but with bronies

Was thinking the same. This type of "dogfight" could be done with piper cubs haha. But you are right. Still entertains the masses and does not stress the aircraft

@Anonymous Anonymous Technically, in the price range of running these things these days i bet you could cut new valve seats that require little or no lead, and a re-tune should fix the octane issue but that 200 knot limit is a shame. Not that i'd ever advocate for them to take risks with these birds. They're just too valuable. Maybe in the future when 3d printing is more advanced, we can have new engines and other cast parts printed for them, or perhaps someone will just start making new replicas.

@Anonymous Anonymous yeah i just mentioned the seats as in a leaded engine, using unleaded (or less leaded in this case) tends to burn them up pretty quick. Other than that, it's absolutely a flame front issue, i agree but adjusting the fueling to slowdown and stabilize the burn and/or retarding the ignition timing can both help with detonation and pre-ignition. (both would probably sacrifice performance if there are no other modifications made but that's a small price to pay to keep the engine happy)

I think we should keep the cannons and guns cause it’s a part of not just Americans History but the whole entire world

@@josephcrawhorn5670 I was dreaming about a future without wars.

@@SuperMageo keep dreaming then. When resources become scarce you will see a lot of war. Humans are nice when they are warm and fed. Take that away and you will see chaos and murder. People didn't kill each other for fun - it was for money and resources. That time will come again.

Fighter without gun and cannon is not fighters, just an plane... 🤔

@@Shadowhunterbg and the goal is to remove it.