Rating ALL OF WC3's ORC UNITS in the best Tierlist ever 

Naga race tier list!

Mercenary creeps tier list? I always liked to buy those ones when I got the occasion.

Your impression of Troll Berzerking straight slayed me

Bold of you to assume that Kodos cannot eat the country of Poland just because one hasn't tried to yet

Its strange how Taurens never had Siege Attack, they have huge logs for weapons which look like battering rams and they're basically walking battering rams themselves.

Kodos having devour always felt weird to me because they are very clearly grazing herbivores.

Finally, the Chieftain gave ratings to the orc units! For the Horde!!

I remember when WC3:RoC released and I was like "Grunts are so good, they have almost double health of footmen" and when I saw raiders on screenshot I was thinking they look so cool and when I played "what a trash unit, no health, knights better".

Don't know if this was asked, but can kodo beasts eat Poland?

I have a suggestion: try tier list with auras in the game

Oh man, I was 14 when I got a 3rd place in a small w3 tournament in my country, I spent so much time on this game, glad to see it s still kept alive by this legend.

Honestly think they should give Wind-riders the berserker-destroyer treatment. Make their current form weaker, less pop dmg & hp, and come out earlier. Give them a T3 upgrade that allows them to morph or "grow" into Wyvern Matriarch riders, like a Destroyer would, that would be a stronger, tougher, and higher pop version than the current values.

I dunno how to express how much these tier lists make the inner teen in me so joyful - i spent so much time in warcraft 3 - maybe not always in melee but to give more meaning to the units and their overall use is like.... i dunno seeing Greek gods explained by your fav teacher? Thanks Grubby!!!

if witch doctor isn't S tier i'm throwing a fit

Hey Grubby, not sure if you'll read this but just know that I remember you from when I was watching SC2 competitive many years ago. WC3 is my favorite game of all time (though for me it was custom games!) so I randomly clicked on one of your tierlists and now watched a bunch of your videos. I think you're a funny dude, and I enjoy watching you talk about all kinds of stuff, not just WC3. Enjoying this channel, and am looking forward to more. Thanks for uploading!

One of your best videos yet. Damn - information, charisma, jokes and just overall fun times. You and your editor really outdid yourselves with that video! Hope to see more!

*Grunt the best unit for a Colgate commercial -> S tier*

I just love Grubby. I love this man. The summary of Asia and Europe is right on point.

I know this is Grubbys subjective tier list and he doesn't like Wind Riders, but putting Wind Riders into the same tier as Demolishers is bit wild lol, since Wind Riders atleast get used in high tier pro games for example Lyn vs Happy few weeks ago. Also I think a case could be made for Kodos being S since they are just so universally good in all match ups. Love the content!

you're not getting away until you do all the possible WC3 tier lists, Grubby

I got recommended your Elden Ring let's play and now I'm just randomly binging your WC3 content lol. (for reference I'm not a fan of Blizzstrategies but I play a lot of AoE2 and 4 so I'm not clueless regarding RTS, but still never thought I'd be watching hours upon hours of WC3 content).

4 racial tier lists are rookie numbers. You need to add Naga and Blood Elves!

As someone who knows nothing about warcraft 3's unit mechanics, matchups, builds, or even play style, I recommend buffing the Tauren by giving them the ability to launch a unit with their giant totem thing. Pretend it's a giant golf club, and use it to either turn the enemy's front line into their back line, or to send a fellow Tauren airborne to the enemy's back line.

Love the video, the editing and insights.

Very interesting points about the units. I especially liked the testing that went into the actual damage of Burning Oil for the Demolisher

I was expecting this today! not dissapointed! Lets consume this quality content :D

Kodos locking out the enemy from their pop cap is absolutely wild, especially considering how long it takes them to digest knights and abominations

Grubby you have an awesome way of interacting with your community , there are a few weirdos here and there but every video and stream I catch i admire you as a person and as a content creator Keep it up man you're awesome

I have not watched yet...if bat riders are not S tier I will personaly find you, locate your place of stay and then...tell you I am disapointed, invite you to your favourite food and tell you how grateful I am for the entertainment you provide... Also after the unlucky thing happening in 2019, Id say its very reasonable that Kodo beasts do not eat Bat Riders...

A masterpiece of a tier list! Thanks Grubby for sharing your lifelong experience! Keep it up man, you got me back to matching up after 15 years 😊

Throm'ka Warchief! The Horde is at your command. Except Hellscream, he is MIA as normal. 20:39 Gonna need a healing salve after that one.

An interesting tier list you could do is a mercenary tier list. Of the neutral creeps, which creeps deserves to be bought in the creep market if you were to spend your gold them? I don't know if there I'd a tier list for them but I would watch that.

These are a lot of fun. I'd love to see a tier list for, like, WC3 campaigns, or the individual missions in each campaign. Something like "most fun" or some such.

The long waited Grubby orc tier list, need to take notes for this video.

GREAT TIMING

It would be nice to hear your theories on how to improve tier D units.

Wind Riders used to be a meme in Reign of Chaos. Not only did they have the same weaknesses as they do in TFT, but they were Tier 3. To add insult to injury, Hippogryph Riders were available in Tier 2 and were stronger.

Its so easy and entertaining to watch Grubby! He knows literally everything and delivery is just impeccable

Its sad that the iconic doctor and tauren, both with amazing designs are so difficult to efficiently use in a game. Definitely some of my most favourite units. Also kudos to you mr Grubby, your lists got me to start w3 again after 15years 🎉

Grubby: Ok ill do the Orc tierlist Also Gruybby: In order to rate this unit please allow me a moment to comment on cultural differneces between two continents and their education systems (let me cook)

Funny thing about ensnare: It could dispelled on Reign of Chaos, imagine that today...

These got me back into the game, starting campaign now to see which race ill settle on, thanks mate

"Not much to say about the grunt", he said after talking for 5 straight minutes about the grunt :D

Love a walk with Mr Grubby doing a tier list in the background ❤

Troll berserkers , walking meat for Dark Ranger and Lich King in every Orc vs UD game. More trolls you train, the more skeletons enemys will have:D

I used to play on local servers, and it was very early Warcraft. Before the Internet, before the rapid spread of knowledge and new tactics. And I loved playing as Orcs because they were very much about brute force, which fit very well with my strategy-based play style. Many people have tried to imitate the tactics of professional players, but it rarely works. Micro, knitting, hero-based game - you need to be able to do all this very well for it to work. I didn't do anything like that. I played Warcraft as a mass strategy game, I focused on bringing a bigger and better army into battle, and that was it. This worked great against many people who tried to imitate professional players, but ended up wasting a lot of money and attention on unnecessary things. And the taurens were amazing in this sense, they pulvurized everything in their path. Yes, they don't work in high-level battles, but in terms of simple arithmetic, they are op.

Seeing that grunt artwork evoked quite some nostalgia having spent many hours looking at the WC2 manual as a child.

This is one of the tierlists of all time

As usual, very high quality and fun analysis on units and balance with other races! Imho tier 2 for taurens is a good change. I'd give taurens an option to switch between two forms: damage dealing tank/bruiser (faster movespeed and crit chance) - 'enraged form' and tanky, hard hiting, but slow (resist skin + pulverize) - 'tank form'. With this change, I would also decrease cost a bit and pop to 4, but also hp to maybe 1000hp (to lower their power in tier 2). Basically you would choose between the 2 forms based on situation. Tier 3 would unlock maybe the tank form to be researched and enraged as baseline (activation and changing form would have cooldown ofc). These changes would make taurens flat out better than grunts >> no overlaping; versatility >> even if opponent spies out your totem, they don't know what type/form of taurens you have (bruiser high single target+good initiation at tier 2, so you have something other than raiders; you upgraded to tier 3 and you also researched the tanky form). Wyverns also suffer the same design issue as taurens. I think gryphons could be a good template for wyverns for damage, role, stats etc. Plus you need to balance their envenomed spears.

Hi Grubby, I have an interesting idea about pulverise. How about we make a balance change which changes the aoe from a circle around the tauren to a cone originating from the center of the unit and is facing the taurens direction. I think this would benefit them greatly since they are most often wrecking other frontliners, and the cone damage would propagate behind those frontline units to damage the much more vulnerable rest of the army. Not sure about the AoE, but I trust Blizzard 💀 will make the balanced number. 🙏

Fax machines are extremely useful in secure data transfer facilities (secure data transfer) and redundancy situations ( intensive care ER and similar wards ) . So , they are extremely useful for some people , including me .

My fav unit as a noob was obiously the tauren because it's a strong cow and spirit breakers because they revive the cows.

This is very usefull for beginners! Thanks for all the info.

I didn't realize how buffed the trolls got. That's rather amazing. They used to be the most disappointing thing to play back in the old days.

Am i the only one who is annoyed by the fact that you can't get warlocks and/or red dragons (black rock clan had those) as Orcs? You were able to do so in some campaign missions.

I don't know what I like the most : Grubby's crazy metaphors or the nice illustrative touch of the editor 13:03

2:36 I remember seeing this art from the Warcraft 2 instruction manual when I was like 7 and thought that was the gnarliest thing I had ever seen.

Man I remember watching you a thousand years ago, just ensnaring half of their army the whole time. I remember that your preferred anti-air technique. Ensare a bunch of air and then shockwave them into oblivion

This is true love, when you put the Shaman on top of your favorite unit list in all games, even if you put it in tier B on the orc list, and you still keep making them.

YES! I was waiting for this

Hmm i wonder if we should have a purchasable-item tierlist. aka, what items are best to buy from goblin shop as well as racial shops. (Marketplace would be a bit much to include though that could go in a general item tierlist) Would be kind of curious to see where Tiny great hall, the orbs and the staffs fall. Though we all know scroll of town portal is S-tier x)... or is it? a lot of heroes sell it early? ;3

As a Polish person I can confirm that Kodo Beasts can't eat out country. They came close that one time tho

Grubby, please we need more of this!

This is the one I've been waiting for. Orc faction in WC3 is still dear to my heart even 20+ years later. EDIT: 16:43 No, you're not the only one to notice that trend. Much of pan-Asia is exceptionally culturally conservative compared to the west. South Korea and Japan are very forward thinking on matters of technology for sure, but outside of that they tend to focus on an 'evolution over revolution' approach to things. I think it's good to have this exchange of both methods within a competitive scene because it's what keeps the game interesting, but without turning into a flash-in-the-pan novelty. (something that kills most games in the RTS genre these days, or at least, keeps them from becoming viable competition)

I was just waiting for this tier list all others fail in comparison to this tier list. Master Grubby thank you

Next up; ranking every critter in W3!

Good tier list. It makes sense given the orc heroes are top tier basically across the board, so the units are less strong for the most part.

Hey Grubz, nice video! Do an item tier list next

Getting to hear all your thoughts about each unit which you've been familiar with for twenty years is great (especially in the case of orcs), however I'd say it's weird that you tiered Peasant/Militia and HH/Berserker separately but didn't do the same with Druids and Bears--and Crows but like who cares. They are even more different, I guess it's understandable because if you're using DotC you're never not using Bears but still. Love the videos as always!

Keep the tier lists coming! Naga tier list Draenei tier list Mercenary tier list Item shop tier list Creep tier list Critter tier list Tile set tier list Night/day tier list ….

You guys ever think about Headhunters leaning on fire hydrants catcalling babes on a wednesday?

Grubby absolutely destroying the algorithm. Love to see it

Crazy how Wind Riders massing + a few Bats was how Lyn finally managed to beat Happy after so long. Turns out if they aren't countered then Wind Riders can be pretty good!

Hype. Haven't watched yet as i reserve these videos for my cardio sessions. My prediction is that all orc units are tier D!!

They may get hungry and eat your pumpkin farm but the clumsy hungry kodo has a certain kind of charm

Item Tierlist next pls Epic work work

Grubby I am sorry, but every single day theres a top Orc using mass wyvs vs UD as a go to, as I type this it is SoIn vs 120.. Lyn (and FoCus also) has achieved multiple wins v Happy using this mass strat.. Im going to pause here, isnt a unit that you can mass and win Happy automatically better than a D? Think about it ... Token wyvs also see play against mass T1 elf strats. Obv mirror and Hu MU are difficult bcs of flyings and bats, but all I wrote above I think rates Wyvs at least a high C. Looking forward to your response. Dearly your fan from Czech republic! :)

Would love a tierlist of air units, in the sense of how they match up to each other in air v. air.

ngl when you started talking about the Demolisher, I was in the other room and I thought you said "The Muncher" and assumed that was what you named Kodo Beasts. Needless to say, I'll be calling them Munchers from now on

Just as I got into bed, perfect timing as always for knowledge that Ill probably never use, lets go!

Nice videos always good content, to me is so funny😂

1:00:53 I think the shorter range might also have this visual bias effect, because it's a beautiful graphical circle AoE, where bounds might not be clear and it has to be in range of the center of AoE and not the edge. Purge on the other hand is like a dot and might work on a unit whenever it's in unit's bounds, meaning it can be on the edge, doesn't have to target middle of the unit. So dispelling a chubby Pitlord is way shorter range, than dispelling four Treants. But what do I know, it's just a guess.

Now we need a tier list of every campaign mission. Please and thank you.

Been waiting on this one!!!!!!!!!

How Autocast works (as far as I understand it as result of editor thinkering): All units, heroes and buildings have a "Unit Priority" stat and units prioritize autocasting spells based on that and other factors. Helpful spells (Heal, Bloodlust) usually require a friendly unit to be attacked first, and if multiple units are under attack the caster uses that priority stat to determine who gets a buff or heal first. Healing Wave uses the same logic combined with range and health %. If you cast HW on unit A, and both B and C are within the same range, the spell will first prioritize who has lower maxHP% and then who has higher Priority. Some abilities ignore the "must be under attack first" and are autocasted anyway (ie: Inner Fire) When it comes to Heal, the unit will not change target until the target currently being healed is at full hp, which is why Disease Cloud makes Priests spend all their mana pointlessly: once the priest starts healing a sick unit, it will max hp, the dot will tick before the priest heal cast finishes, damaging the unit, and since the unit is still missing hp the priest will cast again. When it comes to harmful spells, the unit will attempt to cast it as soon as it has an enemy unit in range. If multiple units are in range, it will cast it on the unit with the highest priority. If multiple units of same priority are in range, it will cast it on units currently engaging in combat (attacking, being attacked, casting spells). Damage autocasts also factor unit hp% into this priority checks, so the Parasite spell will prioritze, given equal range and priority, the unit with the lowest hp%, and if that is equal, then the unit closest to the caster.

Love the Spirit Walker and Shaman demonstration 😂

Look what you made me do grubby. I've bought and downloading reforged right now. So excited to see how the campaigns look like with the new graphics. Then move on to custom campaigns and maps lol last would be to actually play multiplayer.

Hurts to See Wyvern Tier D as they were my Go to unit against Nightelf, combined with BM and a few Grunts. With the right Timing and commitments (2 Rax) you can get 4-6 Wyvern before the Night Elf has a significant amount of Dryads. If you fail the early Tier 2 Attack, you are normally doomed, but few Night Elfs think of Wyvern and have a counter ready by then. At least that's how I went against Night Elf and it was quite successful as many were surprised to see Wyvern instead of Raiders.

26:34 Which make sense if you of course recall how huge the Inferno is from the Warcraft 3 intro when he felt out of the sky. He will eat a few kodos himself..😂

Really hoping you’re gonna do a 4x4 tier list for the races. A man can dream.

@Grubby Could you do a Tier list for similiar units/categories? (For example, workers, melee units, Ranged units, Mages, Flying units, etc).

Grubby, you forgot the game breaking fact that kodos with backpack can carry items! Straight to tier S!

I need a tier list of the soundtracks, one ranking the resources, one ranking neutral camps, one on the items and a meta one ranking the tierlist in different tiers. Perhaps one on different rushes, the ultimate lategame setups in tiers.. actually, i will send a email, there isnt enough room in the commentary section. Ty for your hard work!

Hi Grubby, I’d be interested in your opinion on the value of trying for a middle ground between the super-spellcasters of RoC and the crazy anti-magic of TfT. Was RoC so caster-focused that the current situation (esp for orc), where casters can be countered so hard by units that are also just good, is preferable?

Wind riders on bloodlust + endurance + kodo is one of the fastest nuke in game but it starts working once you have a very large army, which is most common in ffa. In 100 food fights it's one of the scariest units. The key is to have right number of them so a single volley of attacks kills a full hp enemy unit or 2 vollies kills a hero. They are also the best answer too 100 food gryphon/frost wyrm that orc has imo

Got a kodo question for ya: what happens if you consume a unit cursed by the Pitlord's doom?

If you are up against Human and have both Walkers and Shamans, you could get the Breakers to waste their Mana (which doesn't have a very high maximum) stealing Spirit Link, which you keep Disenchanting off the Human army (since Spell Steal is single target and Spirit Link is 4 target and Disenchant is AoE), and THEN fire up the Bloodlust. Gets less good once their Archmage gets to high level and pumps Brilliance Aura, but that was somewhat nerfed in a recent patch.

We need a OVERALL tier list as well, ranking these units against each other. Which of the workers is better than the rest? Is a Grunt better than a Ghoul or Archer? WE NEED ANSWERS.

I've mained orc since 1994. The entire race is S tier. Love your videos, btw.

Cassandra: Your demolishers are doing so much splash damage! Grubby: I thought you wouldn't notice!