Ray Comfort & Todd Friel - False Converts as Dogs in Vomit and Pigs in Mud - Bob Wilkin 

I came back to my faith after a prodigal experience brought on by divorce after 10 years in 2019. I was looking for resources to help me find my way back. I found the Calvanist and works based salvation people in droves online and it was utterly exhausting and confusing. I've had to find my way back to grace through faith recently and am thankful I did because I was mind numbingly tired.

False converts are not believers in Christ who others view as living a poor Christian life. False converts are those who are trusting that Jesus will save them on some basis other than faith in His finish redemptive work.

No one has turned from their sins. These guys are fruit inspectors who feel the sins the other folks commit are the bad ones. I was in this error where I could convince myself that I was "never really saved" for the most silly little reasons. It is about Him, not us. Keep your eyes on the Savior and not the sinner.

Beautiful truth Bob . Faith in Him for His doubtless Guarantee of Everlasting Life alone sets the anchor in the water , forever . Little children can easily understand and believe in Him for that free gift , instantly having irreversible Life at that moment . No better news , ever .

I must confess this was a hard video for me to listen to because of my admiration of these two men and their ministries. I also find this an exciting time in my growth in the word to go study the scriptures that they and you have presented and let the lord lead me into his truth. I really enjoy this channel and appreciate yall so much may the Lord bless this channel from Birmingham Alabama

In my youth, my pastor always taught, "God accepts you the way you are, but He doesn't leave you that way". This means it is up to God to change you (sanctification). This process is different for everyone. Some progress faster than others, but all progress. Even if Ray and Todd are right, it is not the believer's behavior that sanctifies him, but God's continued grace. Somewhere (I believe it's in Colossians) the Bible teaches us, "Just as you accepted Christ, so walk in Him". The whole process of salvation (spirit, soul and body) is by grace and not works.

Thank you for posting! Todd’s channel Wretched is very popular and was referenced a lot in my old church. He’s very lively and has a great personality for productions, so it’s unfortunate it’s wasted on such bad theology

Spot on!!! Faith alone in Christ alone ❤️

Bob, excellent job ! Thank you GES for clear and precise teaching. The message of life is so freeing. I am so thankful i did not get get misled and burdened with great weight by lordship calvinistic teaching of works salvation. Please keep up the great videos.

Glorious Father, please correct, bring to repentance, salvation and sanctification those who preach a false gospel. In Jesus name. Amen.

True salvation brings forth fruit, a changed life to any man not just some. 2 Corinthians 5:17 King James Version 17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Jesus will complete the work He starts in us when we are saved.

Bob, Thank you for your ministry. You're not fearful of calling out error when you see it.

These guys have caused so much doubt and confusion in the Body of Christ

Yes, it is disgraceful to judge another, when ones owns doctrines are out of alignment with God, Christ, the apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, and writers of the New Testament. "The pot calling the kettle black" "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9

I came to this video with a great sense of skepticism, but having listened to the arguments presented, I thought there is nothing wrong in what was said. I’m a big believer in reading a passage in context and the explanations presented were greatly encouraging. I still like Todd Friel and Ray Comfort but we all need to be teachable as we move through our Christian walk.

Good video, very clear and easy to understand …thanks for posting 😊

Luke 9:62, in the New International Version (NIV), states: "Jesus replied, 'No one who puts a hand to the plow and looks back is fit for service in the kingdom of God.'" This verse is part of Jesus' teachings and emphasizes the commitment required to follow Him. The metaphor of putting a hand to the plow and looking back conveys the idea that discipleship involves steadfast focus and dedication. Those who start following Jesus but then turn back or are preoccupied with what they've left behind are likened to someone unfit for service in the kingdom of God. It underscores the importance of resolute commitment in following Jesus and not being swayed by distractions or attachments to the past.

12:17 "When we believe in him, for what he has promised: everlasting life, then we have that gift; we have everlasting life, and we continue to know we have that gift, as long as we continue to believe the promise." I'm not a smart man; I don't really understand how this is any different than what the people you're criticizing said.

49 “Master,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us.” 50 “Do not stop him,” Jesus said, “for whoever is not against you is for you.”

Are those two suggesting repenting = never sinning again? 1 John says they’re liars for doing so. The Bible states 1 sin gets you into hell, by 1 sin you’ve broken ALL of the law, so what’s the difference between a believer who lives a sinful life and a Christian who lives an almost ‘perfect’ life? Nothing! Because by sinning once they have broken ALL of the law! Jesus is the only one who is perfect.

Being a genuine Christian is the change on the inside and it shows on the outside, Jesus said you will know them by there fruits. Just because you say your a Christian doesn't really hold water, but being Obedient to Gods commands, shows evidence that your truly saved, Jesus also said you must deny yourself and pick up your cross And fallow me. Faith without works is dead.

What if you fall away from genuine faith in Christ's finished work on the cross and then join the Church of Satan? in direct opposition to the God of the bible, Is that person still saved upon death? The free grace position has its problems like the Lordship position. I affirm neither.

Amazing job of breaking down and simplifying the TRUTH. Blessings.

As one who has actually put hand to the plough with mules and horses,looking back is a bad idea for straight rows,and is ineffective!.

To be fair, Todd Friel couldn't have picked a better name for his radio show. His corruption of the Gospel is indeed wretched.

"Why do you call Me Lord, Lord, but do not what I say?" - Jesus Christ (LUKE 6:46)

There is no eternal security. We are not saved until redemption at death or rapture and can walk off the path to salvation at any time before then. Be ye holy as I am holy. Without holiness no man will see the Lord. Be not deceived, the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God. Faith without works is dead.

Well, it’s good to know that, like Paul, we can “fight the good fight” and “finish” the race without works. I’m also thrilled with the idea that we can be faithful “servants” without the expectation of doing our due diligence. This is indeed freeing!

For by grace are ye saved through faith and that is not of our self. It is the Gift of God. And not of works. Lest anyone may boast. 🙌

Wow! How did you mess up these parables. You sir should STOP PREACHING.

Well with the platform they have, is their understanding and application a dangerous influence on the less discerning?

Telling people that they don't need to know who Jesus is or what he did and that we only need to believe in a promise can create a false convert. Just saying because the fact that you think that you don't need to preach the sacrifice for sins is just as false as their lordship salvation. It's 2 heads of a false coin.

they talk about Paul saying that Demas forsook him as a carnal Christian. why don't they call Paul a carnal Christian, since he clearly says in romans 7 that he is one. "For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin."

The comment below is what Living waters replied to me when I debated his false Gospel- "You are saying the sinner has to “believe.” He has to “do” something. That’s works righteousness. Another gospel. We are saved by grace alone" (Living waters) I guess Acts 16:30-31 “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” can be deleted from the bible!

Thanks, Bob for the clear explanation. Of course, I knew what you were going to say because I've read a number of your books as well as those of other Free Grace Evangelicals. In fact, I wrote my MA thesis titled "An Examination of the Implications for Christian Life and Liberty Stemming from Two Evangelical Views of the Gospel." The two views compared were the Free Grace view and the traditional Reformed view. A summary follows: "A critical point of departure occurs over the content of saving faith and whether saving faith always produces a change that is manifested in a visible expression of spiritual fruit and good works. Evangelicals who advocate for the simple gospel as defined in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 are sometimes accused of preaching a deficient message of “easy-believism” that promotes a libertarian or antinomian lifestyle. Moreover, it is argued, that a gospel lacking a call to turn from sin may result in so-called believers who are not genuinely saved. Advocates of the simple gospel share the concern regarding the decline of moral behavior in the body of Christ. However, they do not agree that adding subjective conditions to the gospel will provide the needed remedy, nor will leading believers to continually question the authenticity of their faith by gauging their behavior against specific values or standards. These schemes may lead to debilitating doubts and spiritual defeat. A gospel message that incorporates subjective elements that provide little or no assurance can scarcely be called good news. A different, but similarly undesirable consequence may emerge from this. Upon successfully conquering some major sin in his life, a new believer, may not come to see how lesser sins, even very minor ones, will hamper the working of the Holy Spirit in his life and thus delay and diminish his spiritual growth. His Christian walk will be characterized by mediocrity."

If you believe something it will be evident in your life. If I say I love my wife but I beat her,slander,cuss at her and cheat on her. Would you say I love her. So if I say I'm a Christian and don't resemble anything like Bible describes a Christian with the gifs of the spirit. Would you warn that person. Yes, Paul did it and we are commanded to do it. We are snatching them from the fire. Maybe they will repent. Ever since I was delivered God has put it on my heart that you must be born again. There is a dramatic change that happens in a persons life when we meet God. It's like getting struck by lightning. I was saved at about 4 am February 21 of21. I think about that night every day of when I met Jesus. I thought I believed .y whole life when I Jesus into my heart when I was seven. But I wasn't I was living for myself and for the world.Not God.

Bob thank you for your helpful teachings. I have a question for you if you're even able to answer. Many people who teach the same as you, say that people like Todd and Ray and others are going to hell because they are teaching a false gospel and i think Paul even says let anyone preaching a different gospel be accursed. Wondering what your thoughts are on that? Me personally, i dont think i can make such a bold claim but obviously they believe in Jesus so i would guess and hope they are saved as well.

Bob, could you please give your understanding of what "LORDSHIP SALVATION" IS ? To you, what is the parable of the Sower and the Seed talking about?

Thank you! My trust is in Jesus and Him alone, I know me and I'm not trustworthy. It's ALL HIM. I wonder if the "dog to his vomit, pig to it's mire", isn't a reference to what Paul said about being saved by grace and then returning to the law for salvation? He was more than a little disdainful of that course of action. I appreciate your work in overturning the tables of these money-changers.

You are right about this!!!

What's ironic is that it's guys like Ray and Todd who are like dogs going back to the vomit - they're trying to go back to the law and be justified by a self-righteousness, by their own "turning from sins" and ceasing from this or that vague amount of wrongdoing, their own living rightly instead. Their own behaviour, their own works and deeds. How complicated is "not by works of righteousness which we have done"? How hard is it to understand "Blessed is that man unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works"? Ray, stop trying to muster up some certain "kind" of faith to save you, just PUT all your faith in the SAVING ONE.

Bob, assuming that you believe that there is such a thing as a false convert, what would be your explanation of what that actually is? Scripture references, if you have them. This a question that I have yet to hear someone from the antinomianism side answer.

Thanks Brothers of GES, allá Glory To God, Eternal Life it's a free Gift, keep the Good work, allá Glory To Trough his Son Forever and Ever. Amén.

You are incorrect. Being a Christian for 50 years, I think my experience should give me some perspective. You are criticizing a good ambassador of Christ. You can put out a snippet of anyone and falsely accuse them of not following the gospel. JMHO.

In my opinion and based on Scripture, this author should have gone to these people with his disagreement. This is causing division among believers.

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10:26‭-‬31 KJV But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; and spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; 2 Peter 2:1‭-‬6 KJV Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children; and walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour. But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Ephesians 5:1‭-‬6 KJV And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. Revelation 2:18‭-‬23 KJV

Wonderful!

Have you ever used a plow brother?

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EVERYTHING is by grace, namely God's personal active and ongoing intervention. for the works we will force ourselves to do out of fear or pride in our unbelieving response to the Law, WILL NOT COUNT

How about John 6:28 &29?

Very disingenuous video. Definitely not a fair review of what Friel and Comfort were saying. They definitely do NOT preach a works salvation. They actually preach hard into Grace, and that it is only the work of Christ that saves. The reason that Ray Comfort answers with parables about false converts is because that's what the question was. The fact that you didn't pick up on that I guess showed how little you were actually paying attention to what was said.

Salvation for Comfort is Jesus throwing him out a lifeline and slowly drawing it back while Comfort moves forward trying to grasp it but it's always out of reach. In the end he'll have made it to the shore not because of Jesus but because of his striving to hold onto the lifeline.

John 5:24 confuses me. Jesus says “he that believeth on him that sent me , hath everlasting life.” He says to believe on God the father, while other salvation verses say to believe on Christ. Someone help me understand, please. My guess is that since Jesus says “I and my father are one” in John 10:30, that verse solves the issue. But still not sure.

From what I have read in the Bible once you receive the Holy Spirit it’s forever. To loose your salvation would mean to loose the Holy Spirit

I thought the parable and understanding them had to do with the mystery of the Kingdom vs being verses about salvation.

Please Bob, don't join the toxic RU-vid culture of calling out each others error's, as much as understanding what false doctrine is I do think it's wrong the way pastors & RU-vidrs are using RU-vid. We're behaving exactly like the world, we've now got "discernment ministries" which literally mock other Believer's and call it doing God's work. Your content from 10 years ago was brilliant, that's how I found your teaching after being burdened with reformed theology, why can't you call out bad doctrine, by showing us how scripture is interpreted wrong?

🇻🇳 I received some useful information from you. Thank you.And I would like to respond- Firstly, it's about the context of the question. This is a question about the church and those church members who have bad or wrong lifestyles. I think as you mentioned the Gospels Ray did not speak. Likewise, the lives of believers are not mentioned in the books you mentioned. That is, the subject of the question is answered with an opinion answer for the unbeliever (which Ray practices regularly). And you are the answer of faith pointing to Jesus. I think at each stage, you and Ray are each being called by God to your goals. And he and you both have a target audience for communication. I don't have a problem with faith, nor do I have a problem with being a carnal Christian. I am reminded and learn from both, and I don't see any contradiction.

Who in their right mind would want to become a Christian just to continue sinning freely? When I was an atheist, I sinned without feeling bad. Now I still sin but feel bad about it. So it's absurd to claim people become Christian just to keep sinning as Comfort and Friel claim. They mix salvation in with discipleship. Salvation is free. Discipleship comes afterwards and is voluntary.

free grace only!

I have really enjoyed Ray Comfort’s videos, but he does seem to miss the mark on some points. When i was younger, with less life experience, i would have definitely been in the lordship camp, however the more years i live the more i realise how bad my actions are at the core. If it’s not grace, there is no chance i will be acceptable. I have had seasons of steadfastness and dedication, and other of struggling with sin greatly. If Jesus doesn’t ultimately save me, i will never make it.

I was deceived and duped by lordship salvation early in my Christian walk about 30 to 35 years ago. I was what you would call a "MacArthurite" and was even a member of his church and defended lordship salvation with zeal. I had gotten saved early on by simple faith in Christ but after that I was duped and it took me years to get out of that mindset. Thank God for the simple message of believing in Jesus and being certain of Salvation because of everything he did for us.

Hey. Why do these Lordship people think they are the only ones who get it?? Do they ever sin?? Are they perfect now? I see them as modern day pharisese.

The Bible does talk about "faith alone".... James 2:24 KJV Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

While we are in this body; we just aren't going to be alright. When we do die our spirit is going to God and our sinful flesh will deteriorate to nothing. Yes we now have 2 natures....but after death all will be well. There is a grave but there is no hell. Pray; trust God.

Ironic that these two men by preaching a false gospel are in the exact condition they claim of people who are false converts. Maybe it's even worse to draw people away from the gospel of the grace of God by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone. Their message is by grace plus their works, through faith in their works and Christ is added in there for good measure. Sad, just sad.

Your video seems to imply at the end that if we quit believing we'll lose our salvation.

I wonder what Jesus meant when he spoke of the strait gate and the wide gate in Mathew 7:13 and 14? Again Jesus saying, “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord,Lord…” Mathew 7:21. How about Paul writing to the Romans, chapter 10 verse 9, “…confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus…? Both Jesus and Paul must have believed in “lordship salvation.

Appreciate these videos. Thanks!

it does day God is the judge of all (abraham called God this before He sent angels to investigate sodom and gomorrah) and it does say God is not mocked, those who sow to the flesh will of the flesh reap corruption that said, the more i read the bible, it does seem like there is some work/effort involved. We are saved by grace, through faith, our works alone cannot save us. If Jesus had not come, no amount of our 'good' deeds coild ever help us get to heaven. However, if you look at the Lord Lord scriptures, it appears that isnt enougj to just "call" God and Jesus our God and Lord, but faith without works is dead. Salvation technically only comes through what Jesus did, but it seems to be seen as acceptable and chosen by God, theres an element of doing the Father's will, being known by God, not practicing lawlessness (which seems to say not regularly committing sin, but then also not hyoer grace, that is not just doing what many ppl do, merely say a prayer and then go about living their own lives, sinning, and doing their own thing. That also might be lawlessness (refusing God's law and rule over your life)) the fear of the Lord is the beginning kf wisdom, jesus gave a very serious picture of how we should be tresting sin. Hebrrws says we are not to be regularly sinning otherwise there no longer remains a sacrifice for sin. Unforgiveness looks like it can also stop salvation, see parable of great debtor, and the Lords prayer. Parable of wise and foolish virgins, half were ready/wise/prudent, the other half were foolish/unprepared and look to have been left behind doers of the word, not merely hearers who deceive themselves. Faith requires action, i see it like, its belief in something enough that it actually changes how you live. Everyone knows its good to exercise and eat healthy, that knowledge is useless if it is not applied God will one day separate sheep and goats, the qualifier being our actions. If anyrhing, that shows you some of what God really cares about. Post Jesus, the Revelations churches, God speaks correction over them. A fair bit of the nt is speaking correction to believers. Paul turned one man/believer who was committing atrocious sexual sin, "over to satan", why? That his soul might be saved. Implying it could hace been lost/unsaved had he continued in sin. True repentance isn't just saying sorry for sin, it's changing your thinking, turning away from sin/evil, and towards God and the things of God (not remaining in or making a habit/practice of sin/lawlessness, it seems). To say, its a fallacy to think we're immediately perfect on salvation, or that its OSAS once saved always saved. Otherwise, you have to explain how the Lord Lord scriptures can be explained. Many will say on that day...i never knew you, depart from Me many churches preach a hyper grace message, implying kr claiming God doesnt care about how we live or act post being saved. This is wrong, did lying, stealing, killing, idol worship suddenly "become ok" or good to do, post Jesus? No! While Jesus paid the price, it doesnt change the fact that sin is why Jesus chose to come and die for us, and that God hates sin (bc it hurts ourselves and others, and God loves and wants the best for us). To regularly commit or be in or practice sin is part of tbe Lord Lord scriptures and the ppl God rejects. The begjnnjng of wisdom is to fear the Lord (not be afraid of, but have a holy reverence and healtht respect of God), which is to hate evil. In 1John i believe it says let no one deceive you, the one who practices righteousness is righteous, the one who practices evil is of the devil. We're called not to make converts, but to make disciples. The disciples sat and learned at Jesus' feet for 3 years, and a disciples goal is to be like their master in word, deed, action, thought. Every christians goal should be to be like Jesus. Jesus said not my will, but Yours be done, modeling how our goal is to do Father God's will. Though it is relational, see mary vs martha, spending time w God is better than just doing stuff for God. And yet, how did Jesus model it? He woke up early mornings to pray, but then He didnt stay in the prayer closet, He went into the world and went about doing good. is how it looks the more i read scripture. I suggest you look and research on your own wht the bible, and what Jesus said about it, and pray about it. Salvation is by what Jesus did, but to have that salvation it appears we must forgive and not harbor unforgiveness, and there is action/effort involved in truly making Jesus our God in reality/action, not just in name or word. As God leads, respond, trust, obey Jesus says why do you call me Lord and not do what i say? Whom does Jesus then say is a wise versus foolish man? many are called, few are chosen. narrow is the path. Jesus forgave the woman caught in adultery, but then said ' go and sin no more'. Jesus said to pharisees, the true sons of abraham are not just those who physically descended from him, but if you are sons of abraham, do the deeds of abraham. Abraham believed God, but he also obeyed when God spoke as shown by his willingness to give up Isaac. Hebrews or James list other heroes of the faith and how actions accompanied/showed/proved their faith, or showed their internal reality/heart was changed by producing good fruit. To do this we need to abide, remain, live in God, and remain in His word. Without God we are like a dead branch on the ground. Jesus is the tree, if we are connected, we can produce much fruit, which can last. Study the bible for yourself, listen to the prompting you get/feel. Compare with scripture to ensure its God speaking, and not jsut your own thought or the devil trying to mess with you (discernment). Dont just take my word for it, read scripture for yourself and verify or disprove it

Ray Comfort will experience ray of discomfort in Lake of Fire?

There are some good bible study methods. It seems that one of the more popular ones is what i call the " cancel out bible study method ." It goes like this... John 3:16 is no longer true because James 2 :14 cancels it out. Acts 16:31 is not true because Mark 1:15 cancels it out. Ephesians 2:8,9 is canceled out by Hebrews 10:26,27. And so on and so on...... I guess there are many who do not know what a contradiction is. This just baffles my mind.

one other note: both Ray Comfort and Paul Washer claim that there is no such thing as a carnal Christian. this is an absurd claim,. and in Washer's case it is breathtaking for he took the question "Are you not carnal?" that St Paul asked his Corinthian flock (I Cor 3:3-4) TOTALLY OUT OF ITS CONTEXT, for Paul said in answer to this YOU ARE CARNAL. my point is that those who claim they are not carnal are the most carnal of all. Washers screaming fits indicate unresolved rage and likely that he is terrified of his sins Friel is snide and nasty and Comfort's terrorism i have already remarked on

Acts 16:31 Romans 4:5

Hej but at the end you also proclaim a person can lose his salvation, but not by lack of works or commiting sins, but by unbelief. This means you also didn't get it yet. Salvation can't be lost, it is also not depending on somehow continued faith, that would still be an uncertainty. Look trusting Christ for salvation is a one time done deal, getting saved is a moment in time, whatever you do after that moment does not affect your everlasting life.

attraction to a denomination is not attraction to Christ.

The false works based self righteous gospel is both accursed according to scripture yet like its counterparts in Catholicism, Islam, Mormonism etc, it really appeals to man's pride and is by far the dominant views in the world. So few will simply trust in Christ Alone and rely totally upon His works and promises.... These false modifiers like spurious, such or that kind faith are nowhere in scripture though Calvinistic bible translating twist the bible to say such things. We are only worthy in any way by possessing the imputed eternal and perfect righteousness of Christ gifted to us by grace through faith.

read 2-Pet chap 2

What is a "spurious faith"? It's just a term that became assumed Christian. So there's categories of faith? Believe, but not really? Faith but not actually? If someone had faith that's kinda what it is. False profession may be a better term.

I’m so thankful for the ministry of GES and also of Zane Hodges. I was at my wits end in the early 90’s and had almost given up because most evangelicals spouted off cliches that denied the faith alone message… They would say they believed it and then turn around and preach works salvation. I was so thankful to discover grace In eclipse by Zane Hodges and I quickly realized I wasn’t alone when it came to the clarity of the gospel. Thank you Bob for your boldness.

You gotta keep on keeping on.. Joe Dirt

Are you a disciple? A disciple of whom? What is a disciple? Did Jesus ever say to follow Him? What does it mean to follow Him? Are you following Him? Do you love Jesus? Didn't Jesus say that if you love Jesus you would obey all that He commanded? Wait, what? You're not obeying Jesus? How can you say you are a disciple of Jesus if you are not following Him and obeying all He commanded? Belief/faith produces obedience. If there is no obedience, there is no faith. If their is no faith there is no regeneration. If therr is no regeneration there is no salvation.

Absolutely astounding how many people within christianity challenge the integrity of Jesus Christ. So many times i have heard it said " You can't just believe in Jesus and make it to heaven" Yet Jesus clearly says over and over again "whoever believes in Him has eternal life . Some within christianity say that a born-again person is not eternally secure yet Jesus says " whoever believes in Him has eternal life and will never perish, hunger, thirst, be cast out, plucked out ect... To think that there are those who think they know more than Jesus and must correct Him. UNBELIEVABLE. Thankyou, GES

If you say today, I profess my faith in the Lord, that is, putting your hand to the plow. But tonight, I'm going to the bar to continue in my sins, that is looking back. And when you look back, the path is no longer narrow and straight. It is wide and erratic. False convert...

As a thorn goeth up into the hand of a drunkard, so is a parable in the mouths of fools. Proverbs:26:9

Ray Comfort once told a person that she had to trust in Jesus "AND STOP SINNING" in order to be saved. Say what?!

When man judges man by fruits look there casting out demons look there prophecying there for sure christian when christ judges by fruits did i not cast out demons did i not perform works did i not prophecy in ur name....Christ says depart from me i never knew you

They are quoting scripture. To me it sounds like you just don’t want to hear the truth. Because IT IS A BATTLE EVERY DAY OF OIR LIVES. We ARE told we must crucify the flesh. That, the old man dies hard. Jesus said, IF we love him, we would OBEY his commandments. Faith/Works are dead without the other. If we are to stroll past a shivering, starving beggar and wish the peace of the Lord upon him and walk right on by…what good does that do for him? Maybe it makes us feel sanctimonious but the poor beggar is still freezing and hungry. We are to have given him our coat. Feed him. It does no good to tell ourselves we have faith while outwardly we look no different than the unbelievers. Our lives need to bear fruit. We WILL be judged by every word ever spoken, and every deed. To me it sounds like you’re being unnecessarily contrary. These guys are quoting scripture and it seems you’re trying very hard to contextualize it in a false light. We are in a war every day. That’s why we need to put on the whole armor of God. Every day. Ephesians 6. Jesus even spoke about how MANY will go the wide path of destruction. And FEW will find the narrow path of eternal life. And many will say…’Lord, Lord!…did we not prophesy in your name?’…now surely these sound like they would have been perceived as believers and would have perceived themselves to be as well. They were DECEIVED. And how many times does the Bible warn us, to NOT BE DECEIVED. What Jesus said, he meant. He did not embellish. He spoke the absolute truth. Because of course he IS the truth. And we are to place our very souls on his word. So, anything Jesus says is good for evangelizing to anyone anywhere anytime. As humans none of us are going to be perfect. Not even and especially when it comes to spreading the word. That’s why it’s so important to stick to it to the letter and be VERY CAREFUL we don’t fall to our tendency of conforming it to our wants and desires.

Great message! Hearing Ray peach his false gospel rantings makes me ill.

Ray Comfort claims that he never willfully sinned after becoming saved. I was taught that all sin is willful. He thinks that his sinning is accidental He therefore thinks that he is sinlessly perfect. He ALWAYS assumes that every single person that he preaches to at the. (Huntington)beach is unsaved and never positively acknowledges anybody's claims of salvation. He is the definition of a "Holier than Thou."

Jesus not only died for you but lived for you as well. Why then would anyone think they need to live for Christ in order to be saved if he already did all the work? You live for Christ because he commands it and because you will reap rewards in Heaven, NOT because God will see your obedience and decide that you're good enough to go to Heaven. They teach works-salvation very cleverly repackaged.

What they mean is ..... "Genuine Salvific Faith" = "Whatever Comfort or Friel are doing". The fruit inspector club.

Thank you Bob! You helped me see the true Gospel. When I was a new believer I was in misery & confusion as I first followed the lordship false prophets like Ray Comfort, Paul Washer, John Macarthur, James White etc.. who unless they drop all hope on their own works and trust in Christ alone, they'll all say Lord Lord on that day. Thank you again for fighting the good fight.

Don't you love it when teachers try to support a works-based salvation method by *interpreting* parables and allegories in a way that contravenes the *clear direct statements* of scripture that say justification and righteousness before God is by faith on Christ *without works?* Ray Comfort seems to be quite self-righteous, much in the way of the Pharisee in Luke 18.

Amen Bob.

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Please Help me I Believe Jesus Is The Son of God and God The Son of The Holy Trinity I Believe Jesus Shed His Blood and Died in my place to Pay for All my Sins He Was Buried Then 3 Days Later Jesus Arose From The Dead!!! But I am struggling with some Sins that I honestly don’t know how to quit I hate my Sins But I genuinely don’t know how to stop them Am I still Saved because of my faith in Jesus or am I Not Saved because of my Sins? Thank you for All your Help and Time God Bless you

How is Ray extreme? He is doing what Jesus told us to do? Are you Bob? Are you a good person? You are picking apart a Godly man and doing videos against Christians. Do a video on this dark world and be a fisher of men instead of firing at a man who is doing the LORDS work. This is a problem with Christians, let me show you I'm right instead of doing what Jesus said. Spread the gospel. Rays work is spreading the gospel, that's what he means. All his videos share the gospel. C'mon man!

I can't listen to these fools who misinterpret the bible verses to suit their rhetoric and agenda's