John MacArthur: Know You are Saved by Love, Humility, Obedience and Trials - Bob Wilkin & Mike Lii 

either Jesus paid it all, or He paid none at all..we know He paid it all!

It was in 1980 or 81 when my free grace pastor warned us about what he called MacArthurism. I took his advice.

So sad to see the change in MacArthur from his younger years. So many Christians get mixed up in Lordship salvation or Calvinism. I fell into Lordship salvation myself. I always knew that salvation was through faith alone, but took scriptures from James and 1 John out of context and determined it to mean that if someone is truly saved, they would have the works to back it up. So glad I finally found the truth again! I still see so many pastors, many well meaning I believe, that subtly mix faith and works.

Thank you for keeping the Way so easy (and accessible). Faith alone in Christ alone.

Indeed our Lord's words were true when he said '....few shall find it'

Belief in Jesus for Everlasting Life refutes MacArthur & every other doctrine that adds to His Promise ...so simple & clear so that all can understand ...cuz Jesus wants the most amount of people to be with Him.

I like the 1969 John MacArthur, wish he stayed the same today. Thanks so much Brothers in Christ Jesus for that clip.

Wow. Age has been good to MacArthur. I never would have guessed he looked like that once.

A recognized Greek New Testament scholar, Tim Carter, was very impressed with how Bob Wilkin’s theology lines up with accurate understanding of the Greek Text. How I’d love to have him as a New Testament lecturer. He even quotes original greek by heart when explaining a passage!

This turns one’s eyes from Christ as the assurance of their salvation to themselves and what they can do versus what He has done.

In that 2022 Interview he describes a pretty decent DISCIPLE… That’s what the dude forgot to rightly divide… Salvation and Discipleship

It seems today another Pastor, another gospel. I have had years of doubt and anxiety trying to look at myself to see evidence of salvation. These “gospels” are man’s traditions, not from the Bible. Tradition trumps the Bible with these people. I have had peace and security since I have listen to you and read your magazine. Thank You!

‘Grace (and works) To You’

Psalm 103:13-14 NASB95 Just as a father has compassion on his children, So the LORD has compassion on those who fear Him. [14] For *_He Himself knows our frame; He is mindful that we are but dust._*

i remember all you,ve been saying and at the 4:10 mark in video is when I typed this note. I listened to him for a long time but always had a prob with his theology and noticed this change and struggled to the point where I would no longer lisaten to or read his works. I feel the same today.

I used to listen to him back in the late 80's 90's, not a bad preacher. Don't listen to him now, he's changed to a law abiding Christian. Quite carnal IMO. Points out the faults of other pastors. I don't like finger pointing preachers. They should talk to one another if they don't agree. Hearing what another man preaches is all I need to hear. I judge it by the Word of God and the witness of the HS. God is solid, lol, He doesn't change. And I don't care what people say. Not one word has changed in my Bible. It says the same things as it did in the 50's when my father bought it, praise God!!! We are blessed!!! Hallelujah!!!

Boy he has changed

Thanks for doing this guys. I crush under my trials. If its up to my performance, im screwed.

A M E N Thank you Jesus .

Funny that he mentions humility when it is notably absent from the Calvinists I have encountered on social media.

so, by time line in video 9:11 no pun intended I,d had enough of JM so I stop here even with the video. Great job guys

He would call the works the evidence of Salvation not the cause.

Great job brothers, mcarther is so confusing. Like when he speaks of obedience, he says a saved person needs a willingness to obey. Do they just need the willingness, or do they have to actually carry out the obedience? I think there plenty of believers who have a willingness, but carrying it out is very difficult in this horribly broken world with all its temptations, addictions, pitfalls etc.

I hit 👍. Just give me Jesus & His grace. One caveat though. You said it's JMac's Puritan-ism. I beg to differ. It's his decades of following Calvinism & not scripture.

Question: do you think someone can be among the elect and not have a love for Christ, his word, his law, and a desire for these things?

Where's the "Free Grace message" in the 1979 clip ? As Alvin points out , it's objectively absent .

K.J. Galatians 2:16 says , "we are all justified by THE FAITH OF JESUS!!!!!! Period, 2nd Corinthians 5:19, God was In Christ reconciling "The world" to Himself. That's all of us!!!!! Period

BOB WILKIN, JOHN MACATHUR COMES FROM A LONG LINE OF FREEMASONS HELLO!!!!!!!

MacArthurites will throw the argument that the first vid is how to be saved and the 2nd is the (necessary) results of salvation. Yeah we know he's waffled on the gospel (and edits his internet writings) but his fans will still be fans.

MacArthur was confused in 1979 , and even more confused now . No evidence in either Era that He believed the only message of Everlasting Life (John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9) . He never clarified the Free Grace message , at least here in the clips you show .

Because I was a member in a heavily works to prove faith type church for over two decades and became a teacher and elder some things trigger me. When Pastor John rephrased the question from assurance to “so all you want to know - is my salvation forever” something triggered. First it sounds like an innocent rephrasing and probably is. But The rephrasing to is your salvation forever subtly may indicate there is another salvation that may not be forever. The eternal salvation only goes to the persevering Saint that does or has his 4 indicators. The other salvation is temporal and belongs to Christians that are walking in the light but end up falling away.

He fell into doctines of men and at best is confused. How hard it is to change his mind now when he makes bibles and glorys in his standing amongst men.

To properly understand God’s Word, one must Rightly Divide scripture. Listen to Justin Johnson from Grace Ambassadors and his Chart Lesson on Rightly Dividing. If we follow simple guidelines, Scripture comes alive without perceived conflict. Who is speaking, to whom and what is the context.

It sounds like he does not separate Salvation from Sanctification?

Is Macarthur saved because he once believed? Even though later he denied this faith?

However one faces trials isn't a sign of ones faith. You could use Job's wife as an example of someone who going through trials lacked faith and said curse God and die and yet still be saved versus someone like Job who said even though he slay me yet will I trust in him. I think she was saved because Job responded that she speaks AS a foolish person would, and told her should we receive good and not evil also, and in all this Job did not sin with his lips, meaning that his wife sinned with her lips only. And she ended up having 10 more kids. 2:10 KJV - But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.

McArthur needs to reread Job 🙏🏼

I really confused now. I thought McArthur was a Calvinist....the predestined to be called and cannot be lost. Where did works come into all this for him.

Seriously Guys? Comparing the way to be saved with evidence of that salvation.

Wow!! He is just as bad as the Galatians!

The gospel call to faith presupposes that sinners must repent of their sin and yield to Christ’s authority.” In other words, a sinner who refuses to repent is not saved, for he cannot cling to his sin and the Savior at the same time. And a sinner who rejects Christ’s authority in his life does not have saving faith, for true faith encompasses a surrender to God. Thus the gospel requires more than making an intellectual decision or mouthing a prayer; the gospel message is a call to discipleship. The sheep will follow their Shepherd in submissive obedience. Jesus’ repeated warnings to the religious hypocrites of His day as proof that simply agreeing to spiritual facts does not save a person. There must be a heart change. Jesus emphasized the high cost of discipleship: “Whoever does not carry their cross and follow me cannot be my disciple” (Luke 14:27), and “Those of you who do not give up everything you have cannot be my disciples” (verse 33). In the same passage, Jesus speaks of counting the cost; elsewhere, He stresses total commitment: “No one who puts a hand to the plow and looks back is fit for service in the kingdom of God” (Luke 9:62). In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus says that eternal life is a narrow path found by “only a few” (Matthew 7:14); in contrast, some seek to broaden the path so that anyone who has a profession of faith can enter. Jesus says that “every good tree bears good fruit” (verse 17); in contrast, some say that a tree can still be good and bear nothing but bad fruit. Jesus says that many who say “Lord, Lord” will not enter the kingdom (verses 21-23); in contrast, some teach that saying “Lord, Lord” is good enough. Paul and James taught that a true profession of faith will be backed up by evidence of faith. If a person is truly following the Lord, then they will obey the Lord’s instructions. A person who is living in willful, unrepentant sin has obviously not chosen to follow Christ, because Christ calls us out of sin and into righteousness. Indeed, the Bible clearly teaches that faith in Christ will result in a changed life 2 Corinthians 5:15,17 Galatians 5:22-23 James 2:14-26

Works based salvation is rubbish! It belittles all of Gods work accomplished through his son Christ!

Ihr vermischt hier zwei völlig unterschiedliche Dinge: bei der ersten Frage geht es darum, wer ein Christ ist; bei der zweiten Frage geht es um Heilsgewissheit - das ist intellektuell unredlich von euch; man könnte die Antworten vergleichen, wenn es exakt die gleiche Frage gewesen wäre

If you trust in Gods promises you are also trusting in Jesus because he is The Word of God made flesh. Trusting in obedience is NOT EVEN TRUSTING IN GOD THE FATHER YET ALONE HIS SON, THE MESSIAH. False teachers are of the Devil !

Have y’all invited John on y’all’s show for a conversation?

He has a shoe untied!! That is a terrible SIN at Bob Jones where John graduated…. He would definitely be given demerits and would need to show he is very SORRY and demonstrate he does have a bad attitude and say the BJ CREED word for word PERFECTLY!!

His statements and assertions are FALSE. "The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we ARE the children of God".

You prob just didn't listen long enough!