Razor Sharp! HD Retrovision Playstation (PS1) Adapter Preview - Kit Reviews, Episode 5

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HD Retrovision has just released a new adapter that works in conjunction with it's Genesis cable to get component video from your PS1. That's PSX for you cool kids! In this hardware preview, we'll break down how much of an improvement this setup gives you over both composite (RCA) and S-video cables. Hint: the original PlayStation has never looked better.
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@RetroTechSelect 2 месяца назад

0:00 - Introduction 0:28 - The PS1 Adapter 0:41 - vs. Composite Video 1:29 - vs. S-Video 2:44 - The Verdict 2:59 - What About the PS2? 3:37 - Outro For the promised follow up with the PS2/PS3 cables, watch - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-t4JK6d2j4GA.html

@HunterTinsley 5 лет назад

Good video. The shot at 3:32 is what I needed to see. Seems like PSX + Retrovision is the way to go.

@chchris25 5 лет назад

Your comparison videos are perfect and straight to the point!

@DerfJagged 6 лет назад

Great video, exactly what I was looking for to convince me to grab a set!

@RivalGT 5 лет назад

I remember using those same monster S-video cable on my PS2, and the jump over composite was massive, I really couldn't believe what a difference they made.

@davidegalliussi1979 4 года назад

Just color contrast ..like a chroma signal and the rgb channels ready for a crt ;)

@gametourny4ever627 6 лет назад

Hi Retro, you commented on my comment on Rox solids video but I wanted to comment on yours so it is better for you. Yeah, I saw your video already before and in my opinion it is by far the BEST! Almost everyone is comparing the HD retrovision cables to crappy composite and once in awhile crap S Video. You are the first I have seen to do the comparison with quality S Video cables and yeah it is so hard to tell the difference. There are things I liked about both cables. On my Snes, The HD Retrovsion cables bring more color detail and less bleed but it adds stupid Jailbars. The Purple Monster S Video cable has no jailbars and blacks are darker. The HD Retrovision cables black screen isn't as black as the S Video.

@RetroTechSelect 6 лет назад

Gametourny 4ever Thank you so much for the feedback. I'm glad you found the video informative and definitely agree that the biggest benefit to YPbPr comes in the color and quality S-video cables are very close.

@davidboettcher4554 6 лет назад

Sony has branded SVideo cables as well.

@RetroTechSelect 6 лет назад

I haven't had the chance to try those. How do they compare with the Monster cables?

@AestheticFunk 6 лет назад

Just wanted to tell you that your channel is amazing. The production quality you put into your videos is refreshing yet disappointing because you clearly don't have enough subscribers to this channel. I found my way here through the youtube sidebar, somehow, and I'm glad I did. I have a question I'd like to ask. Have you tried the retrovision cable on a PS2 and if so then how did it perform on your system? I gave the retrovision website a quick glance and it seems that they are coming out with a specific PS2 cable due to DVD playback problems. But surely the cable outputs regular games perfectly no? And while I'm at it, do you have any experience with the "high quality" component cable for the Sony systems like the official Sony component cable or the Psyclone component cable? These are generally recommended as the top tier cables due to the high quality wiring and shielding that they have. I recently won an ebay auction for a PS2 Psyclone component cable so I'm curious to get any input as to how the retrovision cables stack up to these old high quality cables.

@RetroAllianceGaming 5 лет назад

So I currently use a Scart to hdmi cable for ps1 which looks amazing but requires an extra box which I own. Is this better would you say? Surely more easy to get up and go .

@RetroTechSelect 5 лет назад

I would say more convenient than "better". You might shave a little lag off of your setup, depending on your TV. If it has a fast "game mode" through component, this should get you pretty close to lag free without any loss in quality.

@chchris25 5 лет назад

Do you know how this Component adapter compares to the HDMI Pound cable? From my understanding they both tap into the PS1 native RGB signal. Price is a big difference.

@RetroTechSelect 5 лет назад

I don't own a Pound Playstation cable but I haven't heard great things. Incorrect brightness levels, 16:9 apect ratio, and a lack of 480p support are all common complaints. Adam Koralik includes a fair amount of footage in this video, if you're interested - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZZ_Fnu2sDdI.html

@chchris25 5 лет назад

Retro Tech Select Yeah, most of the issues are for PS2. However I hear that for PS1 this cable works amazing. I found this interesting video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1VJTGIn05l4.html

@RetroTechSelect 5 лет назад

@@chchris25 Oh, wow. I'll have to check it out.

@ibelongtohalo 5 лет назад

Love your vids. I have a question, given the choice, would you connect and play a PS1 via component on a CRT that has component connection, or would you play it on a HDTV?

@RetroTechSelect 5 лет назад

I would say a high end consumer CRT or PVM/BVM would be the purest experience. You also wouldn't have to deal with signal drop out when the PS1 switches between 480i and 240p - which is common. That being said, there's something very convenient about having all (most) of my consoles hooked up to a single digital display.

@ibelongtohalo 5 лет назад

Retro Tech Select thank you for the response. Keep up the awesome work!

@NeonPizzas 5 месяцев назад

No current QD-OLED(best Tech on the market) can compete with CRT motion clarity. The latter has zero motion blur, where as OLED at it's worst has a 16ms motion persistence....Motion blur is the name of the game unfortunately, but you can use Black frame insertion, which cuts it down by 50% but then you lose quite a bit of brightness, there's noticeable flickering on whites and input lag triples. It's such a frustrating technology if you value motion. Plus with CRT you don't have to deal with SD resolution being upscaled to 4K, aside from perfect motion clarity, flawless latency, the fact you'll probably only be spending around $50 to get one and they provide that retro authentic experience. Best to hop on Market place and find a good Sony CRT that has the least amount of hours thrown into it from the mid 2000's, like the Sony wega trinitron series, if you can stomach the silver fat bezel. :P But if you don't Want a bulky CRT, the next best thing would be something like a 32" Samsung QD-OLED G8 Monitor, which will be coming out in the next 1-2 months. 32"(or 31.5") i think translates to about 27" 4:3, which imo, is the perfect size for 8-16 bit consoles, including the Saturn, PS1 & N64. Once you get to Dreamcast, Gamecube, Wii, PS2 & XBOX, It's much better to go for a 32" 4:3 CRT, OR a 42" OLED, like the LG C3 or upcoming Samsung S90D coming this year. Neither the 42" C3 or S90D are QD-OLED, they're regular WOLED unfortunately. So colours will not be up to snuff.

@TrevorSalander 5 лет назад

Do you have a link to the component option for ps1? I’m having issues finding a purchase link.

@RetroTechSelect 5 лет назад

HD Retrovision has their shop down for the moment to focus on R&D for new products. I highly recommend going to Castlemania Games as a source for HDR products. For this setup, you'll need to pair the PS1 Adapter - castlemaniagames.com/shop?olsPage=products%2Fhd-retrovision-playstation-av-port-adapter with the Sega Genesis YPbPr Cable - castlemaniagames.com/shop?olsPage=products%2Fhd-retrovision-genesis-ypbpr For the record, I don't get any kickback for recommending Castlemania, I've just had solid shopping experiences with them and the owner is awesome.

@TrevorSalander 5 лет назад

Retro Tech Select Just realized that I can save directly to my PS1 memcard on my ps2; which uses a component set up. :) Thanks for getting back so soon!

@englishbyjoe3111 6 лет назад

Excellent content. SO what's the final verdict??

@RetroTechSelect 6 лет назад

joe If you're on the fence, go for it! I prefer the picture this gives over playing PS1 games on PS2 with cheapo cables. Keep in mind, the Genesis cables that this adapter uses is sold out at the moment. If you don't have a pair already, I'd recommend joining the HD Retrovision mailing list.

@englishbyjoe3111 6 лет назад

nice! I just picked up their PS2 cables. I'm curious as to how they'll compare when running PS1 on PS2 vs these cables directly on PS1. Thanks

@davidegalliussi1979 4 года назад

I play ps1 games with a ps2 slim and ps2/ps3 hdretrovision ..popstarter $480p and an anti-dithering code ..in usb ;) wooow!

@rolandbaron5813 Год назад

Hi, question. For the PS1 using hd retrovision component cables, is a upscaler needed as well? Or can we just use the component cables only via hdtv?

@RetroTechSelect Год назад

Some displays are happy with the native image, while others won't look great or might not display an image at all. For the best compatibility and easy upscaling, I recommend the RetroTINK 5X for flat panels.

@snape3832 4 года назад

HD Retrovision or RGB Sync on Luma Cable with converter box? :-) I got a big 55 inch modern TV from sony and I have to use HDMI.

@RetroTechSelect 4 года назад

How much are you wanting to spend on the setup? HD Retrovision cables paired with the OSSC are an amazing combo if your TV is compatible. Be sure to check this first - videogameperfection.com/forums/topic/tv-compatibility/

@snape3832 4 года назад

@@RetroTechSelect Got a Sony XG9505 so there is no info about it :D Bit I think RGB with Luma should be also a good quality.

@nya111222 5 лет назад

How DIY component cacle?

@NeonPizzas 5 месяцев назад

Is there any additional input lag when using retro vision's component cables with PS1?

@RetroTechSelect 5 месяцев назад

None whatsoever introduced by The cables. Especially if you're running straight into a CRT. With newer displays, it's important to get the right scaler and and TV/projector to ensure that input lag is not introduced by those devices.

@Gaming.Vids1 4 года назад

Retro Tech Select - will I get a checkored pattern when playing the PS1 on my LCD HD TV via Component cables? How did you get your footage as it doesn't have the checkored pattern?

@RetroTechSelect 4 года назад

HD Retrovision products don't add any artifacts like jail bars or checkerboarding, but other devices in a setup might introduce them. Keep in mind that PS1 games sometimes employed fullscreen dithering as a way to create the illusion of extra detail. There's not a lot that can be done about dithering originating at the source, other than applying smoothing filters with devices like the RetroTINK 2X or playing on a CRT.

@Gaming.Vids1 4 года назад

@@RetroTechSelect Gran Turismo 1 for example when I connect it to my LCD HDTV via RGB SCART has a checkored pattern all over the screen. This never appeared on a CRT TV. Any chance you could test the component cable with this game? The PS3 has this pattern as well via HDMI or Official component cable unless Smoothing is enabled. Just curious if the RetroTINK 2x will get rid of that pattern as I thought it just smoothes jaggies like pixels and jaggy lines?

@RetroTechSelect 4 года назад

Component definitely reveals all a picture's secrets on an LCD. I'm happy to do some testing with the 2X for you to see if the smoothing filter helps to eliminate the PS1's full screen dithering effect.

@Gaming.Vids1 4 года назад

@@RetroTechSelect Please do that with Gran Turismo 1. I'm also curious to see if when using line doubling on the 2x, does the Gran Turismo 1 starting screen where you see the big Gran Turismo logo - is the logo all pixellated like when the PS3 upscales to 480p?

@WheresYourToque Год назад

- I have both the old blue Monster PS2 S-Video and PS2 Component video cables. On PS2 Component video through Retrotink 5X, the image has equal sharpness with S-video. But even with generic component cable, the colour saturation is much better and images seem less smeared on the edgesq than the Monster PS2 s-video. - But I still prefer s-video for watching DVDs with PS2, as the colours do not seem oversaturated and the blacks are deeper to my eyes than with using component video. - With SNES-001, using the purple Monster SNES (N64 and Gamecube) s-video cable through Retrotink 2X Classic, I found the image looked sharper, with better black levels than the HD Retro component video cables. The latter had better colour saturation, but it was noticeably more blurry. Then again, with SNES and using any S-video cable theough RT 2X, I noticed strange, diagonal lines of interference, esp. near the bottom of the screen. I did not notice this as much when using component video cable piped through the same equipment. - Through Retrotink 5X, however, the image through SNES HD Retro component cables appeared to me to be much better, with better colour saturation, cleaner picture, less jailbars. Even than with the high performance Monster S-video cable. I'm not an expert, but maybe because component video is capable of passing up to 1080i and 1080p (like first gen HDMI) and S video (and composite video) is limited to 480i. Thus, with the 1080P upscaling of the Retrotink 5x, perhaps component would look inherently better than S-video. With N64 through Retrotink 5X and the purple Monster S-video cable, I did not perceive much difference than with the Insurection Industries S-video cable using the same setup. However, the Monster cable seems to have much sturdier construction than the Insurection cable. I accidentally bent one of the pins on the Insurection s-video cable, but I have never bent a pin on the Monster cable, which I have had about twenty years. I have also heard of people complaining about "checkerboarding" on the Insurection Industries s video cable, but not on the Monster cable which might be better shielded and has nitrogen in the dielectric for precise 75 ohm signal. Another usless blurb about the ins and outs of video game cabling...

@RetroTechSelect Год назад

Thanks for this thorough write-up of your experiences!

@cutieboy930 5 лет назад

I managed to get the genesis component cable and the PS1 AV adapter, but on my tv the color red is eliminated and blue and yellow is shown instead. Anybody know to how fix this?? thanks. Edit: LOL I accidently plugged the Video red into the audio red. DONT SWITCH IT UP PEOPLE!!! hopefully this helps.

@RetroTechSelect 5 лет назад

I've definitely mixed the cables up and got some weird color combinations haha. Happens to the best of us :)

@Successwithefrain 5 лет назад

What can i use to play my ps1 on an hdtv. I want to make it look like. It looked on a old tv but people that post info dont show if it really works. I feel they are lying do you have any real suggestions besides trying to get an old tv.

@RetroTechSelect 5 лет назад

I always recommend starting with S-video, SCART, or YPbPr cables from your Playstation. From there, I use a RetroTink 2X to line-double the output - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-L9fNL-FGbkk.html If you're really going for a tube-TV look, you might try using an upscaler that can create artificial scanlines to mimic the picture you'd get from a CRT... something like the OSSC. I hope this helps! Let me know if I missed something or you have additional questions.

@kloroformd 3 года назад

For some reason I prefer the smudged look of composite in 3D scenes. Maybe nostalgia. Kinda hides the flaws better. Maybe I'll go with component anyway and just rub a tub of petroleum jelly in my eyes before playing.

@RetroTechSelect 3 года назад

Haha I get where you're coming from to some extent. Using a RetroTINK 2X with a smoothing filter, you can almost capture the smooth look of composite without all of the pitfalls that come with it.

@NeonPizzas 5 месяцев назад

I've never seen PS1 running off either S-Video or Component on a CRT, so i can't say first hand. But i have compared Composite to S-video with SNES, and i actually prefer Composite. Aside from being nostalgic, Composite smoothens and rounds out the sprites giving the characters and environments a more pleasing cartoonier aesthetic. When it comes to 8-16 bit sprites, sharper, imo, doesn't mean better. I actually prefer an RF signal on CRT, vs composite with NES too! But with SNES & Genny, it's composite all the way. But once you get to Dreamcast, Gamecube, PS2, XBOX & Wii(for ex), it's gotta be component on a 32" Sony trinitron CRT

@naldi1945 3 года назад

With the use of PS1 adapter, can you still play light gun games on CRT?

@RetroTechSelect 3 года назад

I haven't tested it myself, but I know with the HD Retrovision PS2 cables it works if you run the green (Y) line through the light-gun cable.

@naldi1945 3 года назад

@@RetroTechSelect thanks for the info :D

@jabetitbasen 3 года назад

Hi. I want to plug my old ps1 on a new brand tv with Y Pr Pb input + audio. What do i need for that? Thank you!

@RetroTechSelect 3 года назад

This setup (HD Retrovision Genesis Cable with a PS1 adapter) will work for you with a lot of TVs. Here is a compatibility list: www.hdretrovision.com/240p#list As long as your display supports 240p over component, all other equipment is optional.

@jabetitbasen 3 года назад

@@RetroTechSelect many thanks!☺👍

@momoqahtani6545 5 лет назад

which one better for ps1, using RGB cable or COMPONENT cable ? also, what is the best tv type can be played for those cables? Thanks!

@RetroTechSelect 5 лет назад

I don't have RGB in my setup, but I can highly recommend HD Retrovision cables. As for TVs, Enhanced Definition (480p) LCDs and high end CRTs that handle progressive video will produce stellar results. Thanks to upscale like the OSSC, however, you can get awesome results via component with almost any display.

@momoqahtani6545 5 лет назад

@@RetroTechSelect I have checked the Component cable and seems only for ps2 & 3. I am wondering if it works with ps1 since it is hard to find a tv with RGB input on it !!!!??????

@RetroTechSelect 5 лет назад

@@momoqahtani6545 For PS1, you'll need an HD Retrovision Genesis cable paired with their PS1 adapter. You are correct that the PS2/3 cables don't work with the original Playstation. Hope this helps :)

@momoqahtani6545 5 лет назад

@@RetroTechSelect Thanks bro for the info!

@claudiocorvalan8244 3 года назад

Can I use sega genesis component cable with ps1 adapter on my ps2? 🤔 I don't want to buy ps2 component cable 😅

@RetroTechSelect 3 года назад

You can, but you limit what settings can be enabled on the PS2. To take full advantage of 480p and higher, you'll want to go with the PS2/PS3 cable.

@MASONpictures 2 года назад

What’s the best cable for ps2 going into a 4K tv ?

@RetroTechSelect 2 года назад

I would say the cable is just the beginning. I would recommend a combination of HD Retrovision cables going through a RetroTINK 5X into your TV. That's what I'm currently rocking.

@WeCannabis 5 лет назад

Why is it the Playstation 2 wont play most of the Playstation 1 Demos ?

@RetroTechSelect 5 лет назад

A little research led me to this list: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_games_incompatible_with_PlayStation_2 It seems that the PS2 even had problems with some full PS1 titles. I honestly can't say why, but the backwards compatibility is pretty decent overall when compared to other devices (OG Xbox games on the 360, for example).

@davidegalliussi1979 4 года назад

Tv lcd 240p ;)

@ozzyozcorn 3 года назад

Will this work on ps2

@RetroTechSelect 3 года назад

While it WILL work with the right settings in your PS2 menu, it will eliminate some of your output options like 480p. For the PS2, I would recommend the PS2/PS3 cables from HD Retrovision.

@ozzyozcorn 3 года назад

@@RetroTechSelect castlemania ripped me off , as much as I'd like to get them from them I don't wanna be ripped off again , money is tight these days... I guess I'll just have to get the sony component cables

@RetroTechSelect 3 года назад

@@ozzyozcorn I've had nothing but great experiences with Castlemania. You can also get the HD Retrovision cables from several other stores as well. Check this page for available vendors - www.hdretrovision.com/purchase

@ozzyozcorn 3 года назад

@@RetroTechSelect it didn't say it was a pre order when I bought them on castlemania then the next day it did and I didn't get to preorder them I just got my refund today. Thank you tho I maybe will try again...