Short video on the EVOX 12 in a live playback scenario in our parking lot. SPL vs. distance levels and horizontal coverage check against spec. Was totally blown away !
Thanks for the Test from Germany. This Setup really blows my Mind. Clear Sound and awesome Bass for EDM. I will buy tomorrow a Second rig for Stereo Sound. Still haven't heared 2 of them. I hope, that it's enough for 250-350 People. Only EDM. Thumbs up and keep testing. Greetings
Question....we're a part of a church holding max 300 people. It's an old Catholic church but we are not a Catholic church....we're definitely contemporary when it comes to music. Full band, 3-4 vocals, guitar, keys, bass, sax, violin and electric drums. Would you think that two Evox12's would do the trick? We're running two Bose L1 (first year models) and we're at the clipping point when it comes to low end. We set our Bose behind us and we go without monitors and it works great but I'm looking for a richer/thicker/thumpier tone. Is thumpier a word? If not it should be. Thanks for your input!
Jared- we have deployed the EVOX 8 systems in a church with 200 and excellent results and plenty of good low end for the bass and electric Roland drums they use. The EVOX12's should work well for that size of congregation and give you sufficient low end too. You can always as an RCF dedicated subs as well. The crossover point on the EVOX 12 is higher than a typical subwoofer and sends quite a bit of lower content to the 15" drivers. But with that said, it should work well.
Hello, we are about to renew the equipment. We thought we direct us to RCF Evox 12, 1 pair. We usually animate rooms and the outdoors in general Dj. Our question is how far people can we add sound correctly with 1 pair Evox 12? Thank you in advance for your answer.
The top boxes will carry a room and we would estimate 300 people for an event with EVOX 12's. The top box will go further than the bottom low frequency unit to which you may find you will need to add subs for additional low end. For smaller events 100-150 or up to 200, the EVOX 12 will be great for DJ. For a live band, you can get a bit more coverage, but again, may need additional low end from a subwoofer, as the LF unit of the EVOX is crossed over higher than a normal subwoofer speaker.
I wonder how these would compare to a: Art 710-A MKII & Sub 705-AS II. Any feedback on this? There's a $1,000 difference in price too. I can get a set of 710-tops+705-subs @ $3,000.00 total in California. A set of Evox 12 would be $4,000.00. Just wondering what would be a better investment; as far as in sound, mobility, and overall performance.
+DJVetz510 The EVOX12 would blow the 710's away...if you can get EVOX 12's for $4000 i would like to know where as they are scarce and not in stock and typically are selling for $2499...if you are getting them for that price someone is almost giving them to you at cost. The sight lines of the EVOX12 are much better and a more focused top. Message me the dealer you are talking to for the $4000....that is a no,no
trinityprosound I'm a DJ and while I a m looking for mobility, I also don't want to sacrifice sound. The type of sound I like is clear, crisp, and good low end. I play lots of HipHop, Latin, and Salsa music (I'm also, predominantly, a wedding DJ). Which would you recommend a DJ like me to go with: EVOX 12 or ART732A+Sub705ASII? You replies are very much appreciated and hold great credibility to me (I have followed your videos for a while now and you alway have great things to teach and share).
The 732A is a good top, but if you want the quality you are looking for go with the 708 or the 8003 for a sub. That combo will be amazing. The next step up would be a NXL24A with 8004, now that is a killer rig.
The iPhone microphone isn't very good for judging RTA, especially in those cases that re-direct the sound from the speaker/microphone. I'm also not sure that an iPhone app can register Db accurately with their small dynamic range. That's what Iv'e noticed on the iPhone 6.
+djlobb the app has been calibrated to take all that into consideration, that is why it costs what is does. but overall does a really slick job for RTA on the fly
trinityprosound According to the app, you weren't getting much frequency above 6KHz which isn't true because the camera was picking up heaps of high fidelity details. I also think you would get a more reliable reading if you take the phone out of that case. Those cases mess with the quality of sound not only entering the iPhone's microphone but also the sound of the loudspeaker.
In a couple of comments you mention using four of these for larger gigs. I'm curious as to the arrangement of the second pair. If placed two per side, how do you avoid coupling/cancellation issues? Or is that less noticeable on this style of box, compared to a traditional two-way with a horn?
Bob...the EVOX with their wide coverage would have to be deployed at almost 90 degree angles, but putting the LF boxes together and rotating the tops so that the main pair face straight out and the other pair off to the side for larger event coverage. With the wide angle of dispersion of the EVOX and similar speakers you would not want to have them overlapping much in coverage. A set with additional subwoofers for low end will do some decent size events with a set of EVOX 12's 300 or so....
trinityprosound, that's kind of what I was getting at. I could definitely see these as great delay stacks but I just couldn't see these as being quite as scalable as more traditional cabinets, i.e. horn loaded two-ways where I've stacked them with the top one upside down, horn-to-horn.
I have these speakers. running them straight to my Pioneer DDJ-SZ controller. but I feel that they lack power. Someone told me to add a small mixer (like the one in your video) to get better audio, is that correct? Thank you
The mixer should have sufficinet output levels without going to a separate mixer. you may just be suffering from not enough rig for your gig ? The EVOX 12's are great , but they are not subwoofers, they are LF drivers that go lower than a typical 15" 2 way box. You may need a separate dedicated subwoofer like the 905AS
@@trinityprosound i see. I agree with you. Also needless to say 8004 can also give a harmonic low frequency for evox system. So the evox 12 low speaker was mid bass only? I mean it is not really that kind of very low. Like what active or passive subwoofer doing?
The 15" in the EVOX 12 is doing double duty, trying to do subwoofer and LF of a standard 2-way cabinet, there is compromise with the higher xover point. But for an all in one system that does a decent job of the LF and somewhat subwoofer duty the EVOX 12 is a great system
that was amazing... sounds like you lost the low mids a little back at 100 feet... what about 4 ?... the two top cabinets stacked?.. at what distance apart should they be apart width wise for the least distortion?
I just got a pair of these, Is there an optimal volume setting, I've used mine a few times and set the volume around "2 O clock" And how about that little button, should it be set to pushed in or out.
We run them at 12 o'clock position. For the to boost or not to boost, if running low volumes where you need the extra LF energy for background music, etc. then boost would be OK, if you are up in volume and running hard boost will make the speakers limit early as too much LF is being produced. Input sensitivity should be on LINE
I own the j8s and want to know how well does the low mid, mids travel when using a separate subwoofer (subs being on an aux) considering that the low mids and mids will be on the ground ? I own prx812s but would love to just use the j8s for smaller clubs, but I'm concerned on the tone sounding thin when too many people are around the evoxs' "sub"
You will get more out of separate subs, issues with coverage will be anyone or thing blocking the sound from the speakers. if you have a good size crowd in front of the speakers, coverage is going to be reduced. It does take some distance for a wave to develop for the low end and you are going to notice more low end 20 feet out from them than right in front of them as well. As we have said , the LF is not a subwoofer but doing double duty as a low frequency driver and quasi sub low end. If you use the separate subs with a cross over around 90hz as found on the RCF subs, like 7 series and 9 series, you will be able to run the J8's a bit harder without clipping or destroying them.
The 7 series subs or the 905 will work well with the J8, use the built in crossover on the sub to the J8 and can run the J8 harder without clipping. Set at 90Hz for the crossover on the subwoofer output.
I have these speakers. I need to hook up a single speaker & a wireless mic for a wedding this weekend but I don't have a mixer. can I hook up the wireless mic to the speaker without a mixer?
I own a set of evox 8 s and very happy with them ... but for bigger venues it's lacking volume .. -and have to push gains a little to hot on desk ... would the evox 12 s allows me to go into more medium size venues .. ???
Possibly. Keep in mind that the EVOX systems are still 2 way speakers, with a LF driver that sits on the floor vs. being in a cabinet. It is not a subwoofer. Even though they do a great job, pushing the low end with the EVOX 8 or EVOX 12 will clip the amp prematurely. For larger events the EVOX 12 will work great, but I would ADD a dedicated subwoofer and run through the subs crossover so you can not clip the EVOX boxes too soon. Something like the 905AS would be great, as it also looks like the EVOX bottom boxes. I have found with our EVOX 8, 12 and some other mfr. similar systems that added a dedicated sub and using the cross over allows you to get more volume from the smaller drivers and not clipping from excessive LF content below 100hz.
No would be the other way around, go to the sub first into the L/R inputs and from those outputs and cross over that is internal go to the EVOX systems each side L/R
Thanks for posting the video those sound really good for being so small and compact but I got to tell you from the video 40-60 and 80 ft looks more like yards to me looks like you're a long way back from the speakers
Just the angle of the lens and depth of field, maybe at the furthest we were close to 200 feet out....but it still did a great job that far away...low end just falls off sooner than the top.
@@trinityprosound nice review thanks for the quick response. Have you done any reviews on the ev etx 18 sub or yorkville esp18, i hear that they are the 2 subs to compare for something you could get at any guitar center and I will mostly be using whichever subs I decide to go with in church for about 250 people and for some outdoor events if you have any advice on either of these two subs or recommend something else comprable I would appreciate it
We are dealers for both ,but have no history with them, most of what is at GC is junk IMO. Some of the SUB series from RCF we have used like the 8004 , it takes more than 2 QSC subs , the KW181's to even come close to what the 8004 does. Many of the mfr. are not truthful about their specs, and present them in a way you think you are getting something amazing when you are not...I would take the EV over the Yorkville though, we have sold some of the LS subs and they were very flabby sounding to us...
trinityprosound .. I Have 2 EV ETX 18sp’s and they hit really good have had nothing but good times with them so far I can’t complain they get pretty damn low and hit hard they kill Qsc kw18 hands down and a few others one sounds good but they both sound better when ran in pairs vs just one!
+Peter van den Berg for the size and performance the EVOX systems are hard to beat...rolling in and out of a gig with ease and quality sound is what the EVOX is all about.
Dear I dont Think So. The EVOX systems are being used for live events indoors and out. We have a DJ using 4 of them in high school gyms to do dances, we have many in churches of 200 or more with full on bands of 6-9 musicians and vocalists that hit some high SPL levels. The EVOX series boxes are a power house in a small package due to the vertical column control of the sound.
Hi, thank you for video! What do you think, can we user this for our 5 piece wedding band (acoustic drum, bass, guitar, el. piano, sax), for medium-large venues, up to 250-300 people?
+Bakos Szabolcs yes. this EVOX system would work fantastic. we have a local church using the EVOX 8 for a 5 piece band with V-Drums, Bass on SanAmp, Keys, Ac. Gtr. and Electric along with 4 vocals. So the EVOX 12 no issues at all, will rock the audience world.
interesting so tiny and I'm not too sure coz it's tiny. Have you tried it as a FOH system with a live band? wondering whether it will be good enough to do live bands mainly hard rock but also other genres?
+trinityprosound I'm currently using the TT1 series and they are really grunty but it's too heavy lol that's why I'm looking at the evox 12 simply coz it's portable and a breeze to set up. One question is it possible to set up 2 or 3 of these evox tops per side? or will some of the sound get cancelled out.... was this system's design to be 1 top per side. thanks
The EVOX12 or look at the NXL24A systems, those will do what you are looking at , a pair of EVOX 12's are amazing for output. The NXL24 are awesome but you will need subs with them
I need a speaker system for a outdoor party place for approx 70 people. Area is 1000 sq feet. Does it have a high volume and huge bass effect that gives a dj feel ? Plz reply
No to answer your question. It is a hybrid of sorts that has a 15" LF driver crossed over at 180hz. It does a very good job with the low end, but to get what you are asking, you need a speaker an dedicated sub. Look at the NXL24 and SUB8004 combo. That will do what you are asking very well. 90hz cross over and plenty of power for the 18" sub, but you will need 2x , one set per side of your event , also the new updated SUB8003AS is a good contender with a ART box or HD box for a top.
No, a VTX system can be expanded on to build a significant system and array. The EVOX 12 and the entire EVOX line as others is limited on the line. You will only get the one box shot. A column line system such as the NXL24 or NXL44 may be a start. Better yet TTL6A would be something that would compete with a dual 10 VTX system, but again is limited. The line arrays from RCF would complete with the VTX boxes.
Rcf and DB technologies being basically the sa.e company. Hiw does the evox 12 compare to the es1203? Also more of these column systems are coming out with build mixers. Think that will be an update to come in future versions from rcf/db technologies?
The ES1203 has more low end IMO. I dont think they are going to do much more with built in mixers, they can only do so much that is marketable to the masses and a system with a bigger mixer and more ability would not market well to all areas and at that point a dedicated mixer would be in order for a small band.
In fact they sound mind blowing... Could you please tell me what format of music files did you play on it? I will be playing 320kbps .mp3 files on the sound system with Alllan & Heath QU16 as the Mixer connected to a Laptop. Thanks!
Most likely out run the EVOX 8, but the EVOX 12 would give it a run for sure...the EVOX low frequency drivers are crossed over higher than a typical subwoofer and run out of steam before a dedicated sub would
Will you be making a review just like this for the rcfNXL24a ? I'm in between a pair of evox 12 or a pair of NXL24a with 8004 subs we do 300 to 1000 people events.
we have made an NXL24 video, but won't be doing anything outdoors...you will need 2 of the NXL24's per side and an SUB8006 per side for 1000 peeps, 300 peeps just one of each per side will work, but for the larger events you are going to need more rig for the gig.
+Rody Dubbelman we have not done a side by side , but for audio quality and output .. the EVOX would blow it away. others have done the EVOX8 comparison to the L1 and RCF won hands down...
+Loudnessmobile ....based on what ? with the shear numbers sold of the systems, the masses are speaking different and an overwhelming thumbs up on all the EVOX systems...
Could you give me some input on the Evox 12 vs NXL24 System? I currently own the 8 and perform mostly weddings. Crowd is sometimes 400- 600 guests, so I am looking to fill that void. I am looking for great quality of sound at higher SPL and wondering if either will fade less when pushed hard throughout the night? I have even considered the TT Boxes. From listening to them all, how would you rank them? Unfortunately I have no dealers in my area to take a listen to compare, so any input you could give would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
The NXL24 boxes are like the EVOX 12 on steroids. The output from a set of NXL24 boxes wound not be an issue with 400-600 guests. You would most likely want 2 per side to get them up and throw over the top of heads. Coupled with SUB8004 or 8006 is an amazing system. We have sold many of the NXL boxes to DJ's and also bands and sound companies and their response is OMG for output and quality. Easy set up and great for small size and sight lines in a venue. The TT boxes are nice as well but the TT6A is large, but has fantastic output, but a a premium price point. You will not be disappointed with the NXL24's or NXL44's
Would be pushing it for 600, look at NXL24 and 8004 and 8006 subs to go with. For acoustic or spoken word , where you are not doing high level audio they will work great as the horizontal coverage is really good.
the RCF NXL24 or DB TECH IG4T, for high energy will need 2 per side with subs 4 x 18 RCF 8004 would be recommended ... you will get great vertical direction and optimum horizontal with those boxes..RCF is crossed over lower and has a wonderful full sound, db Tech is light and portable and easy to set up while RCF is much heavier .... both have excellent track record.
how does it handle when playing hip-hop?.. would i need to add another sub? is the sub that comes with the 12 be able to handle it?.. thanks for the video..
+dee fresh for hip hop the subs will be acceptable to a certain level...depending on how much low end you like with your mix, we would recommend another sub per side for that extended low end that EDM and hip hop will need. the subs do a good job for overall dance levels in general...more low end is always what is desired, and there is no substitute for sufficient rig for the gig.
so,i am so happy! i am a organist and sound man too,i am usually only me play organ and caring sound,i bring it by my motorcycle.So i need the simple system!
you "should" be ok with sub for 200 with a pair of EVOX12. Low end will taper off as you are 50+ feet away from boxes and may need to add additional dedicated subwoofer. The EVOX 12 does a great job, but with these systems, it is not a subwoofer but an extended LF driver that really does not do what a dedicated subwoofer can do.
We are not Bose dealers, and the F1 system requires so much processing with the separate processor that this and other systems out do the Bose F1 hands down. We recently sold a small steerable system against an F1 and blew it away.
@@trinityprosound Hello John! The F1 system doesn't need any processing with a separate processor. I own them. I do use a BBE 282 IX, but it's not required. The L1 MODEL 2/s needs the Tonematch mixer. Which small steerable system blew the F1 away? The F1 SUBS can bang like a QSC 181 if tuned right. The DB TECH 1203's subs never could hit like that to my ears.
We had an opportunity to sell a F1 system into a church...we chose something different for that application. Not a huge bose fan , ever. The EVOX 12 is all wood, Bose is not. RCF uses their tried and true DigiPro amps. 15" LF driver vs. dual 10s, smaller form factor with RCF. Since bose has always needed a lot of internal processing for their speakers, we really shy away with those and while RCF does some processing on the top HF box and a bit on the LF box...the drivers are standard in the RCF line up. Better construction all around for the RCF unit. The beam forming of the top RCF EVOX 12 box is amazing out to over 100 feet away. As you can see we are partial to the RCF line, but that is why we own 6 figures worth of their speakers and not Bose.
