Reading the HotD Source Material p2 - House of the Dragon Season 2 - Fire and Blood 

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Can never get into the live streams but wanted to comment for the algorithm. These videos have been pivotal in reinvigorating my dormant passion for literature. Super grateful for these streams. Keep up the fantastic work man !

Really enjoyed this one

Fab stream!

Look forward to these every week. Don't forget to do your Vhagar recordings for Tim! Thanks team!

Thanks for editing the Iron Born videos. I missed that stream, but listened and watched during surgical recovery and I was garthed to the gourds. I have never read Lovecraft, but am familiar with it and love listen to Tim’s deep dives and your commentary on the comparisons. George is so damn consistent and careful with his references; and you both had me enthralled and laughing.

Awesome stream as usual. Thanks David and Tim!

I let these videos play for my giant ice spiders while im at work, and they love it! Keep it up y'all!

Aah thanks for letting us know how to help! I'll click on a vid right away even if I can't watch the whole thing!

Awesome stream! Also, can’t wait to work through all of those Ironborn videos!

Great stream as always. Thanks guys!! Can't wait for season 2 and all the dragons!

Perhaps if Aegon and Sunfyre are giving us the fallen sun symbolism, maybe Rhaenyra is showing us dead mother Goddess Nyssa in the Weirwood Net. Stone acts as a parallel symbol for death/unconscious/ green sea. Rhaenyra is mourning the loss of her children like Nyssa mourning the sacrificed children of the forest during AA ritual. Dany in the Dothraki Sea with her stone dragon eggs is a parallel idea to Rhaenyra in her sea of grief on dragonstone. Something along those lines imo.

Can't wait to see this Nana Vhaegar music video!

This is the best part of my Monday morning. These streams are getting better and better. Thanks to you and Tim.

You always got me covered Monday morning to make a few hours of my workday better. Thank you David and Tim

I would like to personally give thanks to everyone for another great evening.

Love the extra dimension that you bring with your analysis. Thank you David and Tim.

Great stream thanks

Regarding the "raiders" comments: I interpreted that to mean that they were actually largely smallfolk, as it was described previously that many smallfolk took up arms for Rhaenyra in the riverlands. Similar as historically, especially in medieval times, partisans and guerilla forces were often called "brigands" or "raiders". It also suggests that the Blacks actually have popular support, which is highly interesting to me.

Sorry I missed the live stream. Thanks for letting us know how to help you! I’m always recommending your streams! Thanks for the work that you do! You make this fun! Love Tim too! You both are a great combination!

The veil of shadow, one hour of the sun thing could work as a parallel for Bloodraven and his time in the trees vs his time being present in reality. The last ray of light or the last ember in the fire holding back the dark/winter. This could also be what the sacrifice to the Weirwoods could be about, fuel for the "fire" to keep the winter (others) at bay.

These video are always so great! Thank you for the work you put into them

Can't wait to catch up on this live stream!

Great video as always Dave. Especially love the streams with Tim, keep up the great work! I'm excited to see what you have in store for 2024

👏🏻 as always another great stream. Keep up the good work!

the night is dark and full of terror

Love listening to you two on these streams!

Love reading the book several times and am happily watching two of my favorite creators reading it with commentary! The FOMO is real for HOTD S2

Awesome live stream. Best in class!!! Keep it up LML and GWT. Loving every minute.

What was the plan for the Dragonseeds after the war? They were offered titles, etc. but were they going to let them keep the dragons?

They better not cut a single Aemond line great work as always lads

So looking forward to Xmas eve and NYE stream! That will make those days much more bearable!! Thankyou in advance! ❤😊❤😊

Awe that made my week knowing that you'll be streaming on Christmas eve and New Year's eve because I have a family I don't want to see and no friends...so I'll definitely be spending my holidays here in 🔥🐲

This is my favorite place on the internet especially the chat

The Cannibal being older than Balerion could fix the plot hole of how fast Dany's dragons grow. Dragons are created with blood magic. Maybe the different Valyrian dragon families were able to affect how fast their dragons grew. The Targaryen dragons grew faster than average because that way they were able to replace dead dragons faster, but other families had dragons that grew more slowly, allowing them to live for centuries longer. Daenerys had no idea what she was doing, and ended up with dragons that grew insanely fast.

Love the fire and blood re-reads, especially with Dave and Tim!!

Loving the content.

love the streams always

With regards to the Greens giving the stepstones to the triarchy: It was imo strategically their best move, as at that specific time, surviving on the mainland and defeating the blacks was far more important than keeping the stepstones, which they didn't control at that time anyway. And they would be likely relatively easy to take back, relative to all of Westeros. It was a strategic sacrifice with obvious strong strategic benefits in exchange, not some kind of shortsighted blunder.

Great pt. 2 guys 🐉

Awesome!

🎉 as an aside, your bird thinks you are in its flock. it wants to groom you to be in its flock

I wanted to re-visit the possible parentage of Alys Rivers so I went back in F&B for clues. It says that Alys is around 40 years old during the dance which would put her birth 80-90 AC, although mushroom claims she’s older. Getting rid of the idea of her being hundreds of years old like some theories, i put her at about 60 which would put her birth at around 70 AC. In 73 AC, Rhaena Targaryen dies and Harrenhall is given to Bywin Strong, the brother of the disgraced kingsguard Lucamore the lusty. Later in that same year, Lucamore’s actions are discovered and he is sent to the wall. His first wife and their children are given to the care of his brother Bywin and it can be assumed they all went back to Harrenhall. Thus, it is my theory that Alys rivers is the bastard daughter of Lucamore the Lusty and was raised at Harrenhall with her other siblings. Obviously, there isn’t much clear evidence to back this up other than just guessing. I do believe this is a likely scenario though. This could already be a theory I just haven’t read it anywhere yet.

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I always think that the Bracken/ Blackwood fued is compatible to the Packer/Bear rivalry in the NFL. I'm a Bears fan who was born pretty close to Green Bay, and that shit gets HOSTILE!

Grey Waste Tim's Team Rocket vibes are giving me life.

*settles in for post-feasting ASMR*

4 hour live stream....stay tuned...yeaher!!

I completely forgot what a wise young man Jace was

Those Weirwood Arrows are crazy. Next to shadow babies pretty much the most in your face use of magic in ASoIaF with Bloodraven murdering the Blackfyres and this Bracken vs Blackwoods.

Love this one…

3:00:42 what if... Cannibal is indeed a Valyrian dragon but NOT Targaryan? That could explain why he eats the Targaryan (unrelated) dragons, and why he could not be claimed by anyone with Targaryan DNA. He might be related to a different dragon lord dynasty that perished in the doom.

So, would you say Egon the second was not fireproof?

Mushroom is a Greenseer, he saw Lyanna and Rhaegar doing the pact before the hearttree, and mistook them for Jace and Sara 🤔🤔🤔 Thats also why Mushroom knows so much about the Greens when he wasnt with them!

I have been meaning to ask you if you think Balerion may have died earlier than normal DUE TO his trip to Valyria with Aerea. I have always assumed that's what contributed so much to him slowing down and dying of old age so early. He died younger than Vhagar and she was fighting in dragon civil war right up to her final nanny years! I definitely believe that's partially why Balerion died arguably a little "young" (for a dragon anyways). So, thank you for suggesting that!! Loving all your content, as always. Much love!

All the sea snake alliteration suggests subtly that someone dislikes Roy Doltrice and makes him want to suffer

Thanks D

What exactly makes vhagar the ice dragon? And if meleys represents the fire moon does daemon/garages also represent the fire moon in their godseye battle???

Balerion was at least 208 years old at the time of his death. Born - (in or before) 114 BC Died - 94 AC

I have a question. How did rhae took syrax to sky at 7 yes old, when baela is in her teens and it is said her dragon moondancer is too small to carry her weight. In that logic syrax should have been too small to carry rhae at 7 yes old, because syrax was born after rhae. Or is that syrax was bigger in size when even it was a hatchling? Any thoughts?

P.S. Choosing to go to the block sworn to Rhaenyra is a way to signal to their heirs, spouses, and/or regents which way they want them to jump in the scenario that their communication’s been cut-off (though this would require them to be pretty confident in their knowledge of their survivors’ personality). Though I think that wouldn’t need much help in most cases, given this move cements a lotttt of grudges, as GWT points out. P.P.S. re: Aegon attacking Dragonstone, for all that Rhaenyra’s inexperienced in battle, she’s been flying since before her half-brothers were born & she’d be defending her children on her home turf. If I’m the Green’s small council, I’m not loving the odds that she’d take Aegon down with her or cripple Vhagar through sheer desperation even if she's not at her strongest, esp. given what happens with Sunfyre & Moondancer a few years down the line. Syrax’d be defending her accustomed territory before the occupation of Kings' Landing (aka her supposed over-feeding/poss. moving distress).

Aye sir!

Thank you guys for being quick on the ban button when it comes to bigoted comments like that, and not even humoring them by reading it out fully. There are asoiaf fans who are bipoc people, and it's a fantasy story- there's really no reason we can't have them looking like this. Corlys looks based as hell. I just want to thank you guys because anyone with a platform and a community can really set the tone, and not allowing that sort of talk in your space makes it more welcoming for bipoc fans who would be put off by those bigots. (Why is it always the least Supreme yts who think they can judge everyone else?) I know I have black friends who love asoiaf and it's good to see the fan community at least HERE not tolerating that crap.

I think that everyone’s secretly gay as hell. I had band responsibilities two Sundays in a row but I’ll be back spewing gay stuff in the chat this week. I missed out on so much. 🎉

What is the name of Tims channel?

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Isn't the black Smith riding a dragon a reference to how you train your dragon.

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I’ve just started reading F&B, so not sure if it goes into this or not, but on the show, when Rhaenyra and Criston are on the way back to camp after spending the night in the King’s Wood, the White Hart presents itself to Rhaenyra in front of him. Kind of interesting how Aegon’s nameday celebration ends with him getting a run of the mill stag that Viserys struggles to kill, while his sister refuses to allow Ser Criston to kill the regal stag they encounter. In fact, she never even mentions it, that we know of. I would have loved to see the looks on everyone’s faces if they rode up dragging the White Hart behind them, instead of a boar.😂 Then everyone could have seen with their own eyes her ‘symbol of legitimacy’.

My head cannon for Adam and Alyn is that their mother was a dragonseed herself. That way Corlys himself doesn’t have to have the lizard gene but he likely does have some himself.

2:27:55 Don't let Nana Vhagar catch you using that fowl language, young man!

Tim: I never learned to read 😢

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Fire and blood is my gay representation in ASOIAF

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Tim is soooo right!! If a book has been out for years and years and you complain about spoilers you are just a lazy human and should leave the chat!

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Also Bolton Vs Stark is probs the worst. Lots of skin stealing and horror involved.

On the subject of the Velayron bastards, why couldn't Mouse have Targaryen blood? We don't know anything about her. Maybe she's a bastard herself or a descendant of a bastard, and thus has dragon blood in her. Could explain why her son can ride a dragon. Also, from what we see in the show, the Velaryons were always black, so the chance of intermarriage between them and the Targaryens before Rhaenyra and Laenor is slim to none otherwise, the main line would be mixed race. That or they still haven't clarified who Corlys' ancestors are.

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Looks like you got a haircut. Light bringer your ate not a bad looking fellow😮

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Laenor could be bisexual.

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