Real Jupiter 8 vs Arturia Plug in. Difficult to hear the difference? 

The Arturia is really powerful

that’s a good idea - to compare with? Arturia?

Could I ask that you compare to both Arturia ans UAD?@@josesvintagekeys

I am making a cover of Crocket’s theme using the Jupiter - and you are fully right: that’s were the hardware magic happens :-)

fully agree. Soundwise the difference is simply very subtle - but: playing a synth with such a legacy make such a difference - and the there is something special about the interaction with the machine that is just very special and inspiring

@@josesvintagekeys Oh of course. The hardware is great to interact with. Even just to look at. It's a bit of a design icon. It is a shame that it's gotten so expensive and Roland seem uninterested in trying to revive it. I think it would make a lot of people happy to see it back. I'll be honest though we use some of the modern analogues a bit more. It's an integration/automation thing primarily. But also if you're producing various flavours of techno, UK garage, house etc you can do it with cheaper synths. Great comparison by the way. Because these are so rare you're doing a service to a lot of people who are curious.

You Frog ;-)?

The Jupiter has a very smooth quality - as opposed to for instance Oberheims that do sound more raw...which btw is just great ;-)

@@josesvintagekeys this inspired me to use my old plugins more 😂

I would probably be happy with the software...

@@TheZooman22 ya haha I have to be considering the price of the hardware 😆

it's really the point I want to make: I am lucky to own the real thing - but's it's great that you can get the sound without spending a fortune.

Absolutely! Plus I'm not gonna lie - the enhancements that Arturia does are legitimate as well. I love the fact that their ARP 2600 emulation is polyphonic.

​@JasonGillmanJr Also they've added MPE support to half of the instruments. So really unless you're very attached to "that" original sound and workflow, it makes more sense to just buy the V Collection.

@@MonadTransformer Agree!

...the Pad had a little too much release I have to admit

well done!!

hats off - even I found it pretty difficult :-)

hahaha!

I did use the V4 - It's a good thing it motivates you to use your hardware - not only from a sound point of view - but it's all about the interaction with the instrument - for me that makes the real difference!

@@josesvintagekeys So It's the latest V4 we're hearing? Thanks for clearing that up. The screenshot you show is the UI of the older V3 though, so that got me confused. The v4 only has green, yellow orange and red buttons, the V3 also has purple, blue and turquoise ones. The same thing goes for the CS-80 video. I assume you've used the V4 (the latest version), but the UI shown is that of the V3. The V3 is browner and has 3 white buttons above each other, for filter settings. The V4 is darker grey and has a different layout with never more than 2 of those white buttons above each other. Hardware is very inspiring to work with indeed. To actually see them in the flesh instead of just an image on your screen and to feel those pods, buttons and keys beneath your fingers.

good learning for my next side by side! txxs

I have to add, the most obvious one for me was the arpeggio. As that sound didn't sound very convincing on the Arturia at all, but on the real hardware your patch sounded quite close to the original Duran Duran recording.

I was really struggling with it - the plug in really uses the stereo effect - so I wanted to create 'a level playing field' - than again, as I said in my video: professionals like yourself can't be fooled and know I was cheating.

it also proves that the software is pretty awsome- that is what I experienced!

@@josesvintagekeys agreed, it's an exciting time for VST synth exploration (I recently got the Cherry Audio Mercury-6 for the Jupiter-6 and the Cherry Audio GX-80 for the Yamaha CS-80 and both VSTs are just stunning...

really!? I’ll have to dive into that :/)

@@josesvintagekeys This guy does a great job. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-R0Lik2AkmKU.html

You are fully right - fortunately you can get that same Roland sound with the Jupiter :-)

@@josesvintagekeys Yeah, I bought an SH-2 because of it haha. I'd rather the Jupiter mind you :)

sorry :-)

not bad at all!

Yep - the plug ins are very smooth - and can trick you. But the rawness of the real thing shines in the mix and has more bottom end. However: it’s a great thing that everybody can enjoy this great instrument!

they are pretty close!

Prices on Reverb are nonsense. you can get a JP8 under 20k - I paid far less btw!

@josesvintagekeys , That is great, but even $20k is also way above. Based on that today's VST can do 99.9%

Sure prices are too high on vintage gear, that's true. It might not be worth it for many, but no software will last you remotely as long as the hardware synth, that's still going strong after more than 40 years. Besides, it does sound a lot better to my ears at least!

@@XPJVI love Arturia V collection as well. But outside of some of the digital synths (and maybe not even those?), none of them can do 99.9% of what the hardware does? That’s crazy! A more accurate statement is … for about 30% of the very standard, vanilla-type of preset sounds, Arturia can get about 99% of the way there. On the other 70% of what can be achieved on the hardware, Arturia V synths can get 80% there. On the portion of unique sound design abilities that exceed the normal 100% of the sound pie (deep dive into the interface and full capabilities, external hardware processing, etc) … Arturia is roughly 100% away from sounding like the hardware … in the sense that … if you really want to do a “thing” with a piece of gear (e.g. splitting the keyboard layers on the Jupiter) and it’s simply not possible to do said “thing” on software … you may as well be 100% off because you can’t do the “thing.” Also … software doesn’t appreciate. I fully remember when you could buy a Jupiter 8 for 1-2 grand in the 90’s or 2000’s. TR-808’s for under a grand. Linn Drum for 1-2 grand. Juno 60 for a grand, etc. In fact, you could have bought all the above for 5 grand, most likely. How much is that gear worth now? Imagine spending 25 years with some of the most coveted musical instrument of all time, and then making $50,000 profit off the gear … which means you were literally paid to use the best and coolest equipment to make music with and enjoy. That’s never happening with a vst.

… but I dont own that one..

true, I have both the Roland and the Arturia Jupiter-8 and they are comparable, the Roland edges out just slightly here and there but the Arturia V4 is still very good

Holland :-)

but from the south - which is almost Zerman

ok.. learning for next time! txxs