Red Alert 2 - Beta Version of the Game 

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="36">0:36</a> That's the XCOMET. "Not real unit. Weapons have to belong to a unit to be used for things like airburst and Shrapnel. Not my hack." - rules.ini [XCOMET] Primary=CometFragment Secondary=TeslaFragment ElitePrimary=SuperCometFragment ;Like [WEEDGUY] this just instantiates more weapons This thing only exists because WW didn't make a working weapons-list; it's only meant to hold and declare the shrapnel weapons. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="72">1:12</a> Nope. Which line in the rules INI gave Viken that idea? <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="99">1:39</a> The deploy thing was probably intended to keep the unit in place and not chase enemies (which would break the disguise). The TankMakeupKit weapon allows for all terrain objects to be used as disguise until the disguise breaks (like when the unit moves). <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="111">1:51</a> can't find anything in the code for the Lightning Storm's SW; lighting is handled by the maps themselves and not rules INI. Ares DLL allowed for rules INI to override that. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="206">3:26</a> yep, that's an AircraftType - it drops any Infantry it carries when attacking. Probably intentional in RA2 since Paradrop planes exist. Could anyone test something similar with TibSun? I think they can transport Infantry and attack just fine, unlike here. Why there's a NightHawk AircraftType and a NightHawk VehicleType is not that complicated, but blame it on this in rules INI: [British]►VeteranAircraft=SHAD <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="222">3:42</a> games sends each listing of InfantryTypes in AmerParaDropInf and AllyParaDropInf in their own plane. Fun fact: this influences how many Spy Planes are sent - instead of one there'd be three! "If you set [General]►AllyParaDropNum to a list of integers so as to send multiple InfantryTypes in the paradrop (and thus multiple paradrop planes) then the SpyPlane super weapon would also send the same number of planes as there were elements in that list." - Ares Documentation on SpyPlane Count Decoupled From AllyParaDropNum <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="287">4:47</a> the French wall must've been cut early on - there isn't even a sprite in the files, just like the Aircraft Carrier Nimitz and the DREDB. It's slot in the Overlay list is unused in RA2, tho. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="355">5:55</a> red explosion because wrong palette. Those are TibSun colors. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="395">6:35</a> ...what the..? Anyways, that's a VehicleType with the Aircraft Locomotor. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="455">7:35</a> that's UTNK, see my notes on XCOMET above^^. [UTNK] Primary=Comet ElitePrimary=120mmE DREDB is identical to regular DRED except: SpawnRegenRate=60 ;25% better than normal <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="569">9:29</a> the Hind is interesting - either it was cut because WW never got VehicleType-Carryalls to work so it was cut, or they decided to scrap it so VehicleType-Carryalls don't work in final version. In TibSun, Carryalls were AircraftTypes (built from Helipad), so Carryall was originally made to only work with AircraftTypes. AircraftTypes in RA2 can't transport units, since attacking would make them paradrop (see the AircraftType NightHawk), and that's not getting into the problems you'll get from AirportBound=no AircraftTypes (which the Hind would have to be) mixing with AirportBound=yes AircraftTypes (which is what the Harriers and Black Eagles are). Basically, WW intended for the Hind to work in RA2 just like the Twinblade in RA3 does, but if they couldn't get it to work and gave up or if they decided to cut the unit before that was properly implemented is up for debate. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="600">10:00</a> the game has a cameo in the old TibSun cameo palette - there should be one in RA2 cameo palette in PPM somewhere...

The first unit (the Rhino Tank with a laser) wasn't something from the beta, it was just a way to hold certain "shrapnel" weapons (like the little beams that split from the Prism Tank's attack) in the game's data so it would function properly. Basically all weapon types had to be used on either a unit or structure, not just 'free floating' so to say. So they whipped up a quick dummy unit that would have such weapons given to it but the unit wouldn't be normally usable.

After seeing the black eagle Aegis cruiser: Finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary!

Man, the Korean Black Eagle was out of this world. Probably even stronger than Apocalyse tank. OP AF.

21 years Later and this game is still superior than any other command and conquer games. Yes.

I didn't expect to see paratroop chrono legionaire

Man, some of these should have been campaign exclusives, especially the Nimitz. Anyhow, Merry Christmas, tg and co.!

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="118">1:58</a> That's pretty interesting. My hypothesis is that the screen tinting effect is the same as the yellow Ion Storm tint in Tib Sun and since Red Alert 2 seems to have a different color pallet, it was probably green until being changed to a dark blue. The country stat bonuses are also interesting as it seems like WestWood wanted to carry over similar stat bonuses that countries in the first Red Alert had (I.E. Russia's faster production).

That black eagle tho. It's funny that some mods do restore some beta content. Some restored units, the reduced cost, unit vet and even their faction names.

That Korean howitzer could have been a great addition to the game. Not too much damage but awesome range. Outgunning defenses forcing the player to put more emphasis on mobile defense instead of turtleimg

- The mirage tank's tank disguise only applies to the body and not the turret. And this is also the reason why mirage tank's don't have turrets. - The Soviet Tank with an id UTNK, seems to be "Uranium Tank". It's tank with a Desolator's rad beam perhaps. Or just an old unit ID from TS that they decided to make it a dummy unit.

Honestly with this balancing, if might make some factions more viable, though some more broken XD

So the Mirage Tank was originally the war-crime-on-tracks-inator.

I wonder how far they intended to take this idea before they switched to just unique units because some of these seem really under developed compared to others.

never thought i would see a crono legionare parachuting. didnt even think it was possible

Apocalypse tank: I fear no man. But that thing... <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="426">7:06</a> It scares me.

Merry Christmas from New Zealand to Tg and everyone!

It's kinda a shame that they removed the bonus stats for each factions in the final version. Would've been a unique addition to the game.

I really like the settings of reducing training time or training cost, also the settings that are different for different countries made them so special. I wonder why they chose to not implement such settings in the final version

oh I love Howitzer, I even modded RulesMD so everyone can use it

I remember many years ago I would see screenshots of Rhino Tanks in Allied colours/textures and Grizzlys that had the same grey as the Rhino. Was that a mod or did the devs actually consider at one point to have faction-based textures for vehicles? Like how in Red Alert 1 if you captured a Soviet War Factory, your Heavy Tanks would sound like Allied vehicles when you selected them... So that would be an extension of such a thing... would have been a neat touch if it could be pulled off. Then there was that beta Light Tank unit that later on turned into the Lasher when YR came around using the same name as it.

Landed Black Eagle: Now I have became Death, destroyer of world.

Interesting stuff, Kala Xristougenna!

The mirage tank deploy might have been something like the mirage tank in red alert 3 now has. The ability to cloak nearby units, could explain why it goes immobile? Then again just a gues.

That “Prism Rhino Tank” as I call it, when it promotes to Elite, its weapon will turn to a regular Rhino Tank. Which to me, it’s not a benefit when it comes to destroying buildings.

The Allied Laser Tank idea later end up as the laser crusader in C&C Generals Zero Hour.

That is some mind blowing stuff

Tnx you!! For the video! ❤

As far as I can remember, this is in fact playable and the name of the mod is Red Alert 2 desire or desiree, this was before modding is a thing.

I love how many of these ideas like the factions and some of the units and support powers were revived with Mental Omega and others

The Hind being able to airlift vehicle like the Orca Caryall is most likely the basis of the Twinblade's ability to airlift vehicles, right?... Would've been really scary to see Rhinos or Apocalypse Tanks being airlifted onto an enemy base...

So the hind was actually in the game. On one of the map, outside athens i think, there was a stationary helicopter that has the same model as the hind

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="134">2:14</a> That beta name for Cuba is now in Mental Omega as the 2nd Soviet Subfaction.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="75">1:15</a> The Mirage Tank was supposed to deploy to disguise iirc and then could not move. But that was too cumbersome so the deploy was removed altogether. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="352">5:52</a> The RA2 incarnation of the Howitzer was a disgrace to the C&Cs that came before. Earlier C&Cs had powerful artillery that had sick splash, exploded clumps of infantry to bits and levelled structures. More akin to the Grand Cannon in power. This mediocre RA2 version got carried forward from the Howitzer to the Siege Chopper.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="425">7:05</a> When a Black Eagle turns into modified Aegis Cruiser

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="428">7:08</a> O_O Holy shit, a ggi party bus but now it flies.

These remind me of the Age of Empires 2 civilization status.

Don't know if the missions still exist

Interesting on the Alliances. At least Latin Conf. got restored in MO

The parachute helicopter logic is left over from Tiberian Sun beta

Well, seems some ideas used in Generals. Then Hind in Red Alert was Soviet's heli. Maybe can try some Red Alert Remastered video I guess? So far I know is Allies GPS can cause damage, you can capture opponent's tank when war factory's door open before tank leave war factory, same to heli. Then I'm upload Red Alert Remastered and C&C Remastered skirmish with mods everyday.

Time for new test videos I guess :D <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="470">7:50</a> VS Prism tank

Maybe the deploy button on the mirage tank would keep the disguise solid but remove the attack ability.

So it was similar to how Age of Empires having civ perks and unique units.

intresting indeed

You forget the light tank in RA2,it was supposed belongs to Iraq but it been it change to Laser tank in YR. Btw I want to ask what map you use in video?

I wonder, what if those trained as Veteran units are build after you use a spy on the enemy barracks...do they come out max level?

There was a version of Red Alert 2 that allowed you to build different kinds of walls, like sandbag and chain link. Russia was also able to build a psychic beacon. Russia also had a airfield and a M.A.D tank. Which version of mod of Red Alert 2 was that? I’ve been looking for it forever.

Do you know something about Derelict Tank?

우리나라 설정에서는 보병 생산 비용이 20% 깎아내리면서 기본 가격이 200원이였다가 160원으로 할인이 되고 특수 유닛은 하우저라는 자주포 유닛이 있지만 지금 현실로 보면 우리나라가 자주포에 중점을 두고 있지만...보라매는 정식 우리나라 특수 유닛으로 나오지만 하우저가 짤린것은 아무래도 독일의 구축전차와 겹치는 경우가 있어서 하우저가 삭제되고 보라매만 남게 된게 그나마 다행이다...

The howitzer was used a lot in modded maps.

Hi tg, may I have the file that you use in the video? I find it interesting to play the beta version of the game, because the files has been lost in time. Can you provide a link for all the beta files please?

Some ideas like the factions were expanded in MO

Now that you're at it, why not a video for scrapped content? At least for some of the more developed things Example: -General- -Turtle mode: A defensive action taken by buildings to better protect them from harm. It even made it into a cut scene where a Chronosphere shut down to brace for impact with a missile. Tesla reactors would move a shutter over the core to protect it. Soviet barracs would lower into the ground and Construction yards would lower external features into the building (radars, domes, ventilation) -Allied- -Artillery-tank: a vehicle which either was an early artillery piece akin to RA1 or an anti-infantry tank. it can still be found in the game data (this one is different from the Howitzer) -Soviets- -Light tank, it was cut as it conflicted with the soviet doctrin it is still somewhere in the code at least according to wiki. Mental Omega brings much of this content to live, so while the official wiki writes it off as mere drawings and guesses, there is at least an option out there to gain footage.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="101">1:41</a> wait can you disguise as rocks in the base game? Also <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="450">7:30</a> the ground black eagle seems just a bit over power

where all of this comes from?

Howitzer was a cool unit when I play mods

that black eagle's hot tho

thank you for another amazing video, and I truly hope this becomes a mental omega style mod which has all these units and factions

Many of these and more were implemented in DeeZire mod.

7.26 😳 someone's been reading too many Dale Brown novels.... 😅 (he does love his airpower 😉😋😜🤪😆)

The fact that Germany can train veteran grizzly tank actually would make them viable faction

Korean eagle vs aegis do it

this is very educational. -- Hannibal Lecter

The end is very cursed because it has airdropped animation xD 💀

allied player paradrops seals and engineers - everybody ragequits, never talks to you again.

Weird. Why a tank cannon fires laser? Why infantry can parachute from helicopters? There doesn't seem to be a clear design to make the game more fun for me. Just some random changes

How to get howitzer

Ra2 Deezire Mod implemented 100% of these.

How to get howitzer😮

Unused unit, twinblade?

Germany seems very strong when you start the game and immediately gain like 6 veteran grizzlies lol

It pains me seeing the word Beta as a catch all term for all pre release and unused content.

I wonder how a dog looks when paradropping. Also, Brute, Slave, Yuri Prime, Tanya, Boris...

7.26 😳.... Did someone install the Ace Combat (near) infinite weapons mod?! 😅 (😉😋😜😆🤪)

The hind was a lot cooler in the original RA.

I kind of wish they had left the old faction names. Inclusive of more countries.

Wht the hell does Britain get veteran seals when Seals are american spec ops

The mirage tank is effective against human infantry only

Hi bro I am your big big fan

france with 25% off on defense on structure 日常乳法

Hey dude you forgot about Iraq what are they difference than the other Soviet faction? I hope Iraq was have perk Rhino veteran, Crazy Ivan bombs deals more damage or change function to C4 when planting bomb to building, and Conscipt veteran too

this is a mod

LOL not so cool actually

weather storm turning screen green ... u.s. how about nuclear storm? red alert modders : sure

Вот как появился Каратель из Red Alert 3))

Thank you for cool video! Please send Rules.ini file of this additions!😊😊

Clickbait! This is a modified Rules.ini, not a beta version And also this comment is clickbait, for those who decided that I was a TG hater, and already went to defend him in the comments)))

Fun fact: Dreadnought's early cruise missiles are reuse for Boomer submarine