Red Wings Have More Work to Do in Offseason 

I’m very happy we still have Patrick Kane!

I was pretty negative about the signings and lack there of, but im starting to come around. I completely agree that Detroit dodged bullets with some of these contracts being handed out. It is disappointing to see the wings competition making moves to improve and or extend their competitive windows while detroit basically stands pat, however, The positives I see are as follows 1. Theres good players still potentially available via trade, many possible suitors have taken themselves out of the running after spending big in FA. 2. Minimal signings could signal a bigger youth movement than expected. This is two fold- young guys graduating to the nhl, and young guys already on the squad taking on a larger role. We already know edvinsson is on this team full time going forward, as well as jonnie burgers and albert Johansson, barring something drastic. Between kaspers strong 2nd half and danielson, last year almost making it out of camp, then having a very good final year of junior, perhaps yzerman anticipates one of them taking a job. An example of a young guy taking on a bigger role this year is Seider. With ghost gone, seider will clearly be running PP1. I assume thats why they didnt bring ghost back, Seider is getting his big boy contract, go do the big boy job and be a true #1. This also makes sense why detroit would be intrested in trouba, someone to take a few tough minutes from seider so he can develop the offensive side of his game. The team needs to be better defensively, not retaining a PP specialist whose a black hole on D helps. Regarding all the goalies now in the system, gotta imagine something is up with husso that we dont know about. Perhaps its likely he ends up on LTIR, or perhaps he gets bought out during the 2nd buyout window during arbitration. It would have been to risky to buy him out before free agency.

Gotta think at this point that the cap space was made for bringing in cap due to trades, not free agency

I would love to see sprong back at like 2x2.5 to 3 mill. He was such a solid piece for the price

Good take on the outrageous contracts signed by other teams. I wanted to call 971 the ticket today when they were blasting Yzerman. If Yzerman doesn’t do anything else this is a problem but I don’t think he is done. Either way the wings don’t need these bad contracts. Toronto made some awful moves

you said gustafsson is a "ghost lite" but honestly I think he will be better then both walman and ghost in terms of value, prob not a lot of offense or as much as those guys but the actual defence will be a lot of better. Ghost was a liability on defense especially towards the end and I loved both players.

Yzerman said day 1 during the press conference April 19th, 2019.. He asked us for Patience. This takes time without 1 overall picks. Do you realize just how bad our boy Kenny Holland left us? Please, fair-weather fans, see your way out of here and wait a year or two.. We are fighting to get in the playoffs.. We're not building to be a one and done like Washington or St Louis, we are building to be in it every year. Tampa just threw in the towel. Their window is likely closing soon. I'd be stunned if they beat Florida next year.

SY is signing players to fill out the GR roster because he is: (1)planning to bring up four top forwards from GR. (2) going to take a chance on goaley Cossa. and (3) he is planning to trade, dump ,or buy out under-performing players. These steps should free-up enough salary cap money to make one "block-buster" addition.

Young forwards. Danielson, Soderblom, Bergram, Mazar. Some may click. Some may not. You still have veterans to fill in. They have extra goaltenders. They can trade a goalie But still have three goalies, and one could be Cossa. After they sign Valeno, Raymond and Seider, they will probably have $10 million under the cap. Room for trades with teams. If they can get Trouba, squeeze hard on the Rangers who really want to trade him. Make NY retain more salary. Have NY toss in draft choices. Take some chances, without over spending. Feed on the overspending teams.

I agree with all of this

Your assessment is pretty spot on in my view. I think there is something in the works still. No press conference by steve makes me think the same thing. Big youth movement has to happen. They are all ripening now. Might be a little step back but big things from here.

Thank you for calming me down, I was worried this was it, though I am excited to see the young guys I only need to see a couple

Looking at where Nashville is at, we’re really not ready to start making these moves. Nashville has a really good base and all they needed was a couple more goal scorers. No Norris winner, no Vezina contender. I think Yzerman is still waiting for something else to happen, or just doesn’t feel ready for those splashes.

what you think about MBN?

There some soild top six winger up for trade, like Buchnevich, Ehlers or Necas hopefully Stevie can get one of those guys. And i kinda talked my self into wanting Trouba at a reduced salary. I know his play isn’t what it used to be, but the wings really need 2nd pair righty and tuff-ness. Others then that these young guns need some playing time.

Honestly I think it’s ok. 1-2 year contracts allow more time for youth to come up AND have a potential roster spot. Berggren and edvisson will probably be up this coming year. The only problem I have is that holl is still here. I like talbot. I think it’s a great signing. And makes me feel more comfortable. Husso I have zero confidence in and Lyon is fine with help. Campbell is already listed for ahl. Minor salary matches total salary. If they move holl. Johansson can come up. Not sure if this year will be better than last. But would like to see edvisson and Johansson have a full year. And berggren stay up another full season.

Keeping Kane was huge. I think dropping wallman kinda sucks because he was such a good time to have on the team. Some real personality and fun there. I think Lyon should get to start more this season and spread time with the other 2, because Lyon came up to really make a big showing for us and the dude did a lot given his experience and also what he had to deal with leading up to the game before missing the playoffs.

I'm okay with what Steve did today. These older guys (imho) aren't going to be able to keep up with the speed of the game. Bring on the youth!!!! Kasper, Danielson, Soderblom, Mazur❤

I'm hoping this is all a sign of starting to incorporate our younger prospects into the mix sooner than later because some of them already look nhl ready in my opinion

very underwhelming day to say the least , I'm not understanding what the Wings r thinking 🤔, I was so excited for today , mind you .... I wouldnt have signed any of those contracts handed out to the big fish that teams landed , I admit now I over hyped myself cause I believe this team is ready to make a big big step but these signings the Wings did tell me it's a long long ways away , oh well , GO Wings

I think the Jack Campbell signing could be brilliant if he can get his confidence back. No Risk. I would have been in on Skinner or Foegle.

I'm ok with today. Like you said, we dodged some bullets. No, we didn't really get better but that's ok too. I rather see youth being moved up than signing a player to an overpriced contract and being a roadblock for a few seasons. Also, I think Talbot gives us a good option in goal, and provides options for Husso. I'm pretty happy we moved on from Perron, especially for the contract he got. I still hope Holl can be moved out and Trouba with retained salary moved in. That would make the defense a fair amount better imo.

I think something happened behind the scenes with Jake Walman.

I'm hoping Jack Campbell gets a chance and pops off. Love seeing michigan boys playing on the home team!

I feel like I’m listening to 97.1 the ticket all over again lol

Wings supposedly have the best (one of the best) farms in the NHL, so short-term contract outside of Mo, Raymond and Larkin make sense to me.

Main signings will be signing Seider + Raymond + Valerno long term. 1/3 of cap for next 3 seasons already tied up in Larkin, Debrincat, Copp, Compher.

Based on new signings can you give us an update on predicted lineups?

I would of took tevu for 3 years 5.5 no question

Where did Ghostusbere go too?

What's next Stevie???

Remember how Raymond came on and the end of the season.

I was hoping we could get Stamkos for some big time experience

Do you think Kane would be willing to sign here if it was full speed ahead on the youth movement? To me something says no, he wants to at least have a shot at winning. I think there has to be something else in the works.

I think Kane took a one year deal with an agreement with Stevie that he WOULD be traded at the deadline to a contender. That’s why, in my opinion, Kane gets a huge bonus ($1.5 I think) if he plays just 10 games. I think we struggle before the deadline and he gets his wish to leave.

Justin Abdlekader 7 year contract was Holland lunacy

Stamkos said he didnt want to sign with the redwings by the way. He said now that hes 34 hes all about winning games and winning the cup. Those were his EXACT words. He wants a chance to play for the cup every year.....thats why he said he chose nashville

Yeah but we paid 5.5 per for for Copp two years ago, the same as Marchresault, more than Vinny Trotchek. People want to trade for Trouba when Tanev signed for 5.5 or Zadarov for 5? What are we talking about here? Give me a break. We have a serious talent evaluation problem. Overpaying mediocre players is never the way.

Copp for Jacob and Kakko would save 5 million for NYR and we get rid of Copp’s three year.

As for marchessault.....he said he called stamkos and marchessault said he signed with nashville because stamkos went there. so he wouldnt of went to Detroit either

These guys are in the twilight years of their careers. They dont want to end their careers on rebuilding teams. That shouldn't confuse anyone - it makes perfect sense.

It says a lot if the Kane bonuses really include $500k to make the playoffs.

4 goalies what do now?

You never mentioned Cossa. For a guy who stands 9 feet whatever (I grin here), he should be able to go post to post and still be on the outside of the posts. Why are the Wings not prepared to bring him up and give him a try?? And you said the goaltending (and I quote), "... is perilous". Have we given up on our fifteenth pick overall in 2021?? What gives??

Campbell is 2-3 years being removed from his allstar season. Not 1 year.

Smart on Steve, there no point going after a top6 forward, they were all demanding term, We need to wait and see witch of the prospects will take the next step assuming MrED and Danialsson are a lock, depending witch of Lomba, Coss, Elmo, Axel, Nygaurd, crack the lineup changes drasticlly who we want to bring in. Plus we can always pick up Kessel on a one year as a bulking mentor for our undersized boys.

4 goalies & 9 defensemen on the roster rn. At least one more move to be done.

It takes many years to build a powerhouse program. Mid 1st round picks can take several years or more to become difference makers in the nhl. I trust Stevie to thread the needle and make this a franchise to be feared again. Just takes time.

I think Stamkos was the only deal id be ok with as hes still very productive, but Wings had no shot as he was set on Nasvhille for his family. I agree many contracts will wind up like Franz Neilson and agree to rather let these kids play. Id bring up Nate Danielson imo. Im not sure if Trouba is the answer either as too much baggage from all the drama in NY

twitter was really rotting my brain lol

Stamkos might’ve cost too much money, and the Wings were smart enough not to spend too much money. I need to scour Erik Gustavsson’s defensive metrics if I can.

Boy's are getting carried away on today's free agency. You have to remember 15-17 million are going to be set aside for Seider and Raymond. A lot of the contracts signed today by other clubs were long term and over paid. Holl will be difficult to move and likely be bought out. We definitely need another Right D We have one really good right D is Seider, Holl and Petry weakens our right side. One of the goalies are going to move in my view. Do we move Husso, and retain salary.? Fabbri might be a guy that could be moved. The good news Edvinsson, Johannsen should be in our D core. Berggren, Danielson I believe will be in our starting line up. .Gustafsson is better defensively than Ghost. Sprong could still be resigned for one year. Patience please,

Steve has spent 5 years building a prospect war chest. It is now time to cash in. Make a move for Zegras. Enough is enough.

Stamkos should be charged for grand larceny 🤣 dude got waaaaaayyyyyy overpaid. Nashville messed up bad.

Bergen needs playing time in the big leagues to show what he's got, but holding on to Veleno, I believe, is monumental mistake. Veleno fizzed out and barely did anything to produce for the Wings, especially during the last half of the season. Hoping that Veleno goes b/c he actually blows as a player. Looks like Wings signed Fischer, but at least with Fischer the Wings had somebody who who made an attempt to contribute on the ice. Veleno didn't give half the effort that Fischer did last season.

For that money why not get campbell as a backup to a backup. Seriously

The BIG question is how the hell are we going to watch all the Wings games…….with Mickey and Ken?? F-ing Bally Sports!!!!

Our young forwards have to produce to replace the 60ish goals from perron, sprong, walman and ghost.

Definitely somewhere in between. The walman trade is looking worse and worse though. Definitely NEED to see some rookies on this team this year

Everyone thinks Yzerman made a lot of mistakes today. That's not entirely true. Today was a good indication that Yzerman has learned from his mistakes, but had to fix them. SY signed some bad contracts. Think Holl, Copp, Chiarot, Petry, etc. He didn't do it again today. SY didn't bring up many prospects last season. He's not making that mistake again. There is a very large possibility that this season will be worse than last if this is the case, which I really think it is. SY didn't bring up enough rookies and instead opted to fill in the holes with poor contracts because he saw them as minor upgrades. Perhaps he did it because of Kane, who knows. In my opinion, SY showed today that he is willing to acknowledge the mistakes.. but today, he was no longer able to hide them. At least he has learned, and no real damage was done today. That being said, there is also the small possibility that he goes nuclear and brings up a LOT of prospects and, miraculously, they all work out and we make the playoffs. The amount of value we get from this is almost unfathomable. That means we will have a very flexible amount of cap space to push for free agents before the deadline before a playoff run. Yet, even if we're not in this situation, or even make the playoffs, integrating our high-end prospects into the system needs to happen soon because Larkin isn't getting any younger. This season will mostly be a huge over-correction by Steve Yzerman, but at least he's righting the course instead of pretending to go off-map again.

I love Kaner, all I care about. This team is very boring to me without Kaner.

Perron cost the Wings a playoff spot by getting suspended for six games concurrent with Larkin's IR time.

Definitely a step back this year. We subtracted Walman, Ghost, Sprong and Perron and added nothing.. We have 3 1-B goalies, still stuck with Chirot, Petry and Holl out back and brought in absolutely nobody to improve defense. What the hell was Yzerman talking about when he said, "we need to improve defensively"???

Not signing Sprong is going to shave 0.3 points off our team GAA and save us $2mil while freeing up a roster spot for young bloods. We got better lol.

The best change for the Wings to make would be to fire Lalonde. Absolutely despicable record in December & March! The Wings had the players to easily make the playoffs but didn't. This falls squarely on Lalonde. I mean, the Wings stuck with Blashill for SEVEN years as a loser. Larkin's career has been squandered. Is the same going to happen to Seider, Raymond & Edvinsson under Lalonde? To hire Gerard Gallant would take this team far.

If you believe most of the deals are overpays or egregious then you are the one that needs to adjust to the market. Most of the deals you threw out are perfectly fine. Sure there are a handful of deals that will probably look a little rough toward the end, but you either adjust to the market or sit out free agency. Like many sports you have to balance draft, trades and free agency. You create a disadvantage for yourself by eliminating one of the options you have to improve your team. This goes for any sport.

i might catch some flack for this but i don't care...resign sprong, i may just be an arm chair gm but seriously dude is going to be one of those players that we didn't have faith in and then the following year we trade him to a team that wins the cup while we sit at home watching it happen just like the leafs

10 year Yzerman plan.. lol

it doesn't make sense, walman 2nd pk n ghost for Gustafson??? something must happen, or stevie is losing it

Ken Holland would have been all over these horrible contracts.

Holl and Copp are terrible contracts.

If the league GM’s had a team, Stevie would be a “healthy scratch”!

Trade Holl for Trouba and trade for Evander Kane. That would really add a needed element of physicality and toughness.

Patrick Kane.. bonus for making the Playoffs 😂😂😂 No chance in hell with this roster, shameful season upcoming.

Enjoy 6th place. Yzerman is trying to be some genius by taking all these goofs and making a run on his own terms and it's blowing up in his face. He knows the city of Detroit won't be screaming fire yzerman at the games while paying 150 a ticket for a crap team. I think he was a great player but he blows in the office.

It’s great to keep Kane. But we need that Goalie that can put us over the top. Don’t like the Campbell,Talbot signings.

This was a dumpster fire thus far. Jake was our highest score D man. Shayne had the most points as a D man. Perron played top line minutes and still got goals and contributed. Also a leader that people liked. Sprong is good in a 4th line role. We have definitely got worse so far. But hey, at least we still have the goat Jeff petry