I really wish FIFA would just use that video asa copy for their refereeing. The transparency of the decision making, the respectful behaviour towards the referee by the players...
2nd tackle is around the neck and only there, not only is it a neck tackle he is twisting the neck. Only reason it doesn't look bad is because the tackled player goes down easily, as I would with 90kg hanging on my neck.
Good video. It highlights the symbiotic relationship and communication between the officials but the on field referee whilst making the final decision is open to advice.
The problem is the TMO directly influences referees decesion. Referee might say it's not severe and the TMO says I will show it to you again. The referee then has to go with TMO as referee is then solely responsible.
@@tomasflatharta I wouldn't say he directly influenced the decision, I would say he offered a different view which then allowed the on field official to make a more informed decision. I know that sounds a bit fluffy but a slightly different perspective can entirely change what you see.
I maybe disagree with the second yellow card, personally I think it could have been red, attacker goes in low and if the intial tackle was all it was, then a penalty is harsh but the neck roll that then follows is very dangerous and high risk, as a doctor I see all sorts of neck injuries and the roll ones are still very dangerous even if not high impact. Happy for people to disagree though and prove me wrong
It's a difficult one. I think the act itself is a red card but I think its mitigated by the angle of the attacker. In my opinion a safe tackle is 60/40 responsibility on the defender and attacker. If you're going to run into contact dangerously then its partly your fault.
He didn’t crank his neck that bad tone fair, his other arm wrapped under the body trying to strip the ball, then he rolled him. Still a penalty, yellow card fine but maybe even that was harsh.
I didn't see anything wrong with the initial tackle. If the tackler had tried to go low it would probably have been a head to head contact and a red card. The neck roll warranted a yellow because there wasn't much force used.
For the second one I don't think the tackle was the problem. If the tackler had gone low it would have been head to head contact and it would probably have been a red card. However I think it should have been a yellow for the neck roll so right decision for the wrong reason.
Ok how bout this, if & when a play goes to the TMO. Each referee & 2 other officials,vote via Bluetooth connection from a device in their pocket. And..displayed overhead for all to see how they voted? 🤷♂️
Not surprising that in Commonwealth and American sport, the most respected officials ref the roughest games. Rugby and NFL officials both explain things and respect the players. Meanwhile football and NBA and MLB refs are prima donnas.
@@nathan._.h Also, you don’t get many chances. If you get a second yellow card in a match, that equals a red card and you are sent off. It doesn’t matter what the two yellows are for either, a second yellow for any offence equals a red and off you go. Some things are so serious they get an instant red though.
Don’t think the first one was a card at all. As a player, I understand it’s difficult to make a perfect tackle at speed and it looked like a completely valid hit. No head contact, shoulder in with attempt to wrap
When the ref is looking for a reason to give a red card…..these guys think they are the stars of the show. The TMO shouldn’t have to talk a ref out of giving a ref card In this situation what would be wrong with saying “actually there was no contact to the head. Arms were used in the tackle and I over reacted. Scrum.” “Would you agree?” In a professional setting is such a loaded question. Almost impossible to reply, no I don’t in front of a national audience without undermining g the person asking the question. The ref has clearly guided the TMO to award a card when I think if left to his own decision the TMO would have just awarded a penalty and a caution
It's not the TMO who awards the card, penalty or caution, they can only advise the referee on what to do. "Would you agree?" is just the referee stating their official position clearly and then offering the TMO an opportunity to clarify any details.
With hundreds of ex-professionals now looking to sue the sport's authorities. And shed loads of evidence about the dangers of head contact, World Rugby has little choice but to clamp down. If tackles are forced to become lower, the offload becomes easier, so we have both a safer and a more entertaining sport.
Will Hunnisett not true, he was already low literally put his head under the players arm... And the defender realised what position he was in in about half a second... Penalty yes yellow no
id ratter the ref slows the play then some doofus who wants the ref to let the ball play while players are intentionally high tackling. Id ratter remember the face of my kids when im 60 then have too much traumas from concussions because the ref let the ball plays and allowed dangerous plays over and over again
Wouldn't you love to watch a game of rugby where the referee didn't think it was all about him? Again, wasting a lot of time with TMO referrals by watching replays over-and-over again. Nobody goes to a rugby game to watch a referee. Just get on with the game!
@thomas wyatt I'm referring to time in general. It's irritating when the game has to be continually stopped because an arrogant, self obsessed referee has to go through every granular indiscretion in the game. In years gone by refs just got on with play, but now the game is stopped over-and-over again. If you take the Wales v Wallabies game in the RWC - a great game that was ruined when the referee (Romain Poite) kept stopping the game to confer with the TMO (Ben Skeen). It was both frustrating and disappointing to see such a special sport ruined by over-officiating.
Fergus Sherrington couldn’t agree more. Of course there always has to be respect for the ref but nowadays they’re letting that power get to their heads
@Rohan Murphy Well said. It's partly down to coaches instructing their players to 'mix-it-up' as far as the referee on the day will allow. It's also partly down to the media for glorifying people doing bad things for the sake of notoriety. Above all though - the rules of the game need to act as a deterrent of dangerous/unsportsmanlike play, NOT just a means for justification of punishment - IF the slowing down of games can/need be eradicated for the better.
Yeah, lose a game and have your entire season wasted due to the wrong call because you needed to "get on with the game". You can tell right away who's the bloody couch potato and never played a sport.
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