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Reject Modernity; Embrace Tradition: The Type 95 Shin Gunto 

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When Japan opened up to the outside world and began to industrialize in the late 1800s, it instituted major military reforms. In place of the samurai tradition, the new Japanese Imperial armed forces emulated the major European powers - France, Germany, and the United Kingdom. One element of this was the replacement of traditional swords with European styles for officers and civil officials.
These swords remained until the mid 1930s, when a wave of nationalist sentiment ran through Japanese society. In 1934, a new model of officer's sword was adopted, which took the style of a traditional katana. A similar (but less fancy) model was adopted in 1935 for non-commissioned officers. These were the Type 34 and Type 35 respectively, and they are some of the most common Japanese swords in the United States, as many were brought back as souvenirs by American soldiers.
Today we are looking at my Type 95, using Headstamp's upcoming book "Swords of the Emperor" as a guide.
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@MichaelMiller-xj1ti
@MichaelMiller-xj1ti 2 года назад
It doesn't jam and never runs out of bullets, and what it lacks in range it makes up for in style.
@IncredibleMD
@IncredibleMD 2 года назад
"What can a sword do that a gun can't?" "Parry."
@skeltonslay8er781
@skeltonslay8er781 2 года назад
@@IncredibleMD “parry this you filthy casual”
@LolTollhurst
@LolTollhurst 2 года назад
On the other hand it cracks it breaks and it doesn't cut well. Swings and roundabouts
@ajm5007
@ajm5007 2 года назад
@@IncredibleMD Anyone who's had bayonet training knows you can parry with a gun.
@SwissTHX11384EB
@SwissTHX11384EB 2 года назад
That sounds like an Ahoy quote.
@AngriestPeanut
@AngriestPeanut 2 года назад
Really liking the idea of reviewing other antique non-firearms
@Hokuhikene
@Hokuhikene 2 года назад
It's called forgotten weapons not forgotten firearms so it fits the bill^^
@HailHydra27
@HailHydra27 2 года назад
@@Hokuhikene "today we're going to be taking a look at this trebuchet"
@dom4591
@dom4591 2 года назад
@@Hokuhikene indeed
@mbb6740
@mbb6740 2 года назад
@@HailHydra27 I would watch!
@blip_bloop
@blip_bloop 2 года назад
I think a forgotten weapons style program about laboratory equipment would be neat
@pacificostudios
@pacificostudios 2 года назад
According to my late mother, my uncle Yukihiko went to war -- he was a Yokkaaren, a 16 year-old Navy pilot -- he had both his official military sword and our family sword. Since he survived the war, he brought both back -- until the U.S. demanded all swords in Japan. He threw our sword into the ocean, rather than surrender it.
@MisterBones2910
@MisterBones2910 2 года назад
Funny how such obvious _vae victis_ occupational measures are still used in the modern era by western militaries even when they spend so much of their time in officer training school and history classes learning about them being a terrible idea.
@cdjthg9516
@cdjthg9516 2 года назад
Seems about right. Good story
@pacificostudios
@pacificostudios 2 года назад
@@hinglemccringleberry9389 - You silly man. History is always told from a perspective. A Japanese boy that turned 16 in 1943 and served entirely in the Pacific for the Japanese Navy would know nothing about what the Japanese Army was doing thousands of miles away. Moreover, you are casting YOUR light on something I said in a neutral manner. History is more than just good guys and bad guys.
@Samwise_01
@Samwise_01 2 года назад
@@hinglemccringleberry9389 There were definitely a lot of awful things done by the japanese military during the war, but it’s important to recognize how significant the swords were to japanese culture, even during that dark time of human history. I don’t think there’s any pride in the war crimes that were committed, but what happened is history and if the us was demanding the swords to destroy them then that’s erasing history. It’s important to understand what happened and keep the memory of it alive to avoid these kinds of wars from happening again. And if you want to talk about atrocities i guess we could mention the minor details of the united states dropping two atom bombs on cities, but i suppose since we were the ‘good guys’ that doesnt count.
@hinglemccringleberry9389
@hinglemccringleberry9389 2 года назад
​@@Samwise_01 wtf are you talking about? destroying the weapons of a crazy and brutal enemy that committed atrocities isn't "erasing history". you think destroying, say, a rifle bayonet is gonna make people forget that it was used to stab chinese babies? that's an insane ideology. and the U.S using a nuke to bomb 2 military base cities was literally the ONLY way to get the Japanese military to surrender, because, as we all know, the japanese NEVER surrendered. using those bombs as a last resort is MUCH different than lining up thousands of civilians in front of a river and shooting them in the backs, or using civilians for human experiments, or using civilians as live bayonet practice, or stabbing babies in front of their parents, or raping wives and daughters in front of husbands and fathers. you SERIOUSLY trying to compare the nukes to ACTUAL war crimes and inhuman atrocities? wtf is wrong with you?
@Niinsa62
@Niinsa62 2 года назад
The Swedish police used to have sabers, up until the early sixties I think. I heard from a friend's father who was a police officer back then, that it was kind of useful. It looked impressive, and if you felt threatened enough to pull it out of its scabbard, the sound of it being pulled out made the bad guys step back.
@waltershumer4211
@waltershumer4211 2 года назад
Wow! Just think of the difference in between then and now Malmo is the rape capital of Europe because of the "diversity" and migrants. And it's illegal to defend yourself!
@praevasc4299
@praevasc4299 2 года назад
Hungarian mounted police still have them, or at least had them in 2006 when they used them against rioters.
@ltchugacast131
@ltchugacast131 2 года назад
“STOP IN THE NAME OF THE LAW! YOU HAVE COMMITTED CRIMES AGAINST SWEDEN AND HER PEOPLE”
@shadyone6620
@shadyone6620 2 года назад
That'd do in countries where civilians don't own firearms. But imagine some US cop carrying a sword...
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 2 года назад
Deflect the bullets with the sword.
@brandonearly267
@brandonearly267 2 года назад
My Great Uncle was a Marine in WW2 and fought in Saipan. He had jumped into a ditch when a grenade went off sending shrapnel all over the one side of his body that was exposed. He managed to pull out his pistol and kill a Japanese Officer that was charging towards him with a samurai sword. The sword must have been a nice ancestral version because my Grandma told me it was wrapped in eel skin, which was probably Manta ray skin as you stated in the video. My Great Uncles kids sold the sword off years ago. Up until the day my Great uncle passed on to the next life, he had a little glass jar above his medicine cabinet that he would collect the shrapnel pieces that would get pushed out of his body as the years went by. Unfortunately, I never had the privilege to meet him.
@praevasc4299
@praevasc4299 2 года назад
I can imagine that a very small number of military kills were achieved with swords, especially in trenchfighting, like in your example if your great uncle had been slower or if his pistol jammed, he likely would have been killed by that sword.
@BestKCL
@BestKCL 2 года назад
I never understood people who sell or throw out stuff like that... WTF IS WRONG WITH THEM! But seriously, I hear stories like that far too often. Once again, I just can't fathom what goes through their heads.
@borismuller86
@borismuller86 2 года назад
Honestly, my great-grandfather earned a load of WWII medals (including a George Cross) and said he wished he’d sold them. Instead, they all got stolen and replaced with fakes. He said he didn’t really like what the medals represented, but he would have liked to have gotten some money for them to spoil his kids with.
@johnnydjiurkopff
@johnnydjiurkopff 2 года назад
@@borismuller86 sounds like he was a wise man, even for his age.
@212th
@212th 2 года назад
@@praevasc4299 Banzai chargers and Infiltration squads operated at night so it did happen more often than. You think
@ProjectThunderclaw
@ProjectThunderclaw 2 года назад
"What was the real point of giving swords to every sargeant in the army?" It doesn't come up much with shooty armies, but squad leaders do get an extra attack in close combat.
@zxggwrt
@zxggwrt 2 года назад
I guess it's rank hath its privileges. Plus, if you've ever seen a sailor in his dress whites with a sword it's undeniably cool.
@KillerAngelM40A3
@KillerAngelM40A3 2 года назад
Yeah, can't forget that extra S3 attack. Would this "count as" a chainsword or powersword?
@PrimordialNightmare
@PrimordialNightmare 2 года назад
never underestimate a swords usefullness as a pointing stick.
@GrassSaint33
@GrassSaint33 2 года назад
well when you have millions of civilians to kill, you can't waste a bullet on each one right?
@jeramyneeley3351
@jeramyneeley3351 2 года назад
See I at least arm my Sargent with power swords.
@jorenbosmans8065
@jorenbosmans8065 2 года назад
One of the weird stories I've heard (can't verify), is that when Japan surrendered, all of the swords had to be turned in. GI's would grab the swords as souvenirs and bring them to the US. This was not a big deal for these factory made swords, but appearantly a lot of antique ones were also taken and now they might lay in someone's attic collecting dust.
@daviddestefano5044
@daviddestefano5044 2 года назад
true my father was a young US soldier stationed at Yokosuka base right after Japan surrendered.....they were given the choice of a sword or a rifle as a souvenir.....he chose the sword (it is a short ancestral sword in wood "sleeping case") I still have it. I always asked why not take the rifle and his answer "didn't want to carry it".
@Nickname-hier-einfuegen
@Nickname-hier-einfuegen 2 года назад
It's not impossible that some officers had really old swords, but the vast majority of Japanese swords was just mass produced since the late 19th century. And especially these "souvenir swords" were often very cheap and mass produced junk. Not just after WW2, but also dating back to the 1880s, when western people wanted to bring something "authentic" home after visiting Japan. And - to be clear - even the majority of old(er) Japanese swords isn't necessarily good in terms of material quality.
@jorenbosmans8065
@jorenbosmans8065 2 года назад
@@daviddestefano5044 might be because I am European and we don't have much in the way of a firearms culture, but my preference would also be the sword. But not for the pragmatic reason your dad had. Correction: as someone pointed out, I overgeneralised when I said European. I should have said Belgian, appearantly we have multiple cultures that do have a firearm culture.
@jorenbosmans8065
@jorenbosmans8065 2 года назад
@@Nickname-hier-einfuegen my comment was about the swords that were surrendered at the end of world war 2. But in general the modern ones are probably mass produced as you say. But this is with most "authentic" souvenir things you can buy, unless you buy it literally from a craftsman. I agree that most of the captured swords will just be mass produced. So the chance that somebody took home a real antique sword that was a family heirloom is very small. Still, If I was American and I'd find a Japanese sword my grandfather took as a souvenir from world War 2, I'd have it looked at. Even if it is just one of these mass-produced swords for the war, it is interesting to know.
@CoreStarter
@CoreStarter 2 года назад
@@Nickname-hier-einfuegen literally every blade made in Japan pre ww2 was junk, the iron quality in the ground under Japan is literally the worst in the world, the folded 1000 times stuff, was required to bring the iron and steel used up to mass manufacture quality of western contemporaries, Japan during the era of samurai was extremely isolationist and only really stopped being that way in the late 18th century therefore only had domestic junk iron ores to work with, plus their grasp on steel making was far behind the West, they made up this gap with extremely skills swordsmiths
@HistoricalWeapons
@HistoricalWeapons 2 года назад
would love to see some non firearm projectile weapons from Ian
@marcellusbrutus3346
@marcellusbrutus3346 2 года назад
dude you are the forgotton weapons of archery
@builder396
@builder396 2 года назад
@@dzejrid Forgotten catapults
@all9472
@all9472 2 года назад
@@builder396 theres actually couple uchya (its a cylinder that shoots arrows) stone sling(braided rope Spanish used them to shoot explovies basically makes u into a human trebuchet) Borneo blowgun (spear blowgun) rungi (mace u can throw) rabbit stick (old ass boomerang like weapon) altalt (a leverage handle to shoot long spear like darts) chakram (hoop blade) like 500 different types of darts,tomahawk, spears,axes,knifes hand throwing wepons.....and im pretty sure theres more unique ones im just not aware of
@HANKTHEDANKEST
@HANKTHEDANKEST 2 года назад
More ballista content pls Ian
@comradekenobi6908
@comradekenobi6908 2 года назад
He will need to review ROCKS
@Nachtdwaler
@Nachtdwaler 2 года назад
I remember when I was around 15 years old, I was telling my grandfather that I really wanted a katana as I was fascinated by swords. He reacted really bluntly, almost angry. Later my father told me that in WW2, my grandfather, who was Indonesian btw, saw fellow prisoners get beheaded by Japanese officers in a prison camp. I'll never forget the feeling I got when I heard that.. Like some brutal wake up call to this world.
@bryuhMan
@bryuhMan 2 года назад
kakekmu tentara kah ( cuman nanya )
@Nachtdwaler
@Nachtdwaler 2 года назад
@@bryuhMan Sorry I can't read Indonesian!
@bryuhMan
@bryuhMan 2 года назад
@@Nachtdwaler ah sorry, Does your grandfather serve in the military ? ( just asking )
@ilhamseptian1604
@ilhamseptian1604 2 года назад
@@Nachtdwaler your grandfather is Indonesian.....what about your parents?... I'm so confused right now...how the hell you don't know Indonesian? Just asking
@Nachtdwaler
@Nachtdwaler 2 года назад
@@ilhamseptian1604 My father was born in Surabaya, Java. But he moved to the Netherlands whe he was 9. He is the oldest of all his brothers and sisters. Only 3 out of 8 were still born on Java. My mother is from the Netherlands.
@michaelmoorrees3585
@michaelmoorrees3585 2 года назад
In my teens, one of my friend's father was an occupation troop in Japan, just after the war. He brought one of these home, as a souvenir. One of my other friend's sharpened it, and we pretty much played with it as a machete. The oleander bushes fell victim to this weapon.
@wills2140
@wills2140 Год назад
The oleander bushes were a far better target than what be the usual civilian or prisoner that would be the target when an Imperial Japanese serviceman would use a sword like this against.
@Blitzkrieg-1941-
@Blitzkrieg-1941- 2 года назад
In my opinion it has a morale boosting effect when drawn. You'd ether realize you wanted to be brave or at the very least you'd be like "this man is nuts, I can't let him just die, I gotta fight with him." So yes it wouldn't be the most effective in combat but for morale I think it would be VERY important especially how japan was back then.
@notfeedynotlazy
@notfeedynotlazy 2 года назад
The exact same thing than a British sergeant bellowing "FIX BAYONETS!"
@zaholykrusedar1459
@zaholykrusedar1459 2 года назад
Yeah, that if, the enemy's infantry use mostly bolt-action rilfes Sadly, American adopted semi-automatic for infantry's standard firearm 💀
@notfeedynotlazy
@notfeedynotlazy 2 года назад
@@zaholykrusedar1459 and that relates to the above exactly how? (protip: the last time a British sergeant uttered that order in total seriousness, BOTH sides were using fully automatic assault rifles - and it worked)
@zaholykrusedar1459
@zaholykrusedar1459 2 года назад
@@notfeedynotlazy ok, before i explain my point, i want you to tell me which battle are you talking about, please?
@keerf255
@keerf255 2 года назад
@@zaholykrusedar1459 one in Afghanistan I believe. Look up the "last bayonet charge" since up until now that's what it was.
@knkn6671
@knkn6671 2 года назад
I'm NOT tired of the gun reviews.....but this change is really welcome and a great idea.
@666toysoldier
@666toysoldier 2 года назад
About 15 years ago I acquired the sad remains of a shin-gunto sword, just blade and sheath, at the local flea market. The two had rusted together and been driven apart. I sent a copy of the glyphs to my Japanese daughter-in-law, who provided the following translation: Shou Wa (emperor's name), Kano Tomi (16, with the emperor's name, 1941), Haru (spring), Kou a i ssin (name of sword), Man Tetsu (name of company, "South Manchuria Railway"), Saku no (made of). She provided links to internet articles about this manufacturer. When China conquered Manchuria, they found that traditional swords were brittle in the extreme cold. They also gained access to high-quality iron ore. Using that, they developed a process of putting a mild steel core in a high-carbon tube, then forging a blade. Performance tests proved it to function as well as the finest hand-forged blades. Production was begun, with output reaching 400 blades per month. Modern metallurgy and manufacturing processes produced the finest military sword adopted by a nation---when swords had been an anachronism for a half-century. They were used to behead many American, English, Australian, Chinese, and Indian POWs.
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 2 года назад
I've seen a photograph purporting to show two Japanese officers who had been in a competition to behead the most Chinese civilians in a day. The two men are smiling at the camera, holding their swords as if they were about to go fishing.
@666toysoldier
@666toysoldier 2 года назад
@@bravesniper2174 Yep.
@MrCarGuy
@MrCarGuy 2 года назад
"Kanotomi" meant the 18th year of the sexagenary cycle
@b.santos8804
@b.santos8804 2 года назад
Thanks! Very fascinating.
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 2 года назад
@@ptonpc Absolute Chads
@cobytang
@cobytang 2 года назад
Ian: "Some veteran's kids or grandkids probably used this sword to do some good guy bad guy rough play with this, as you can see it's quite roughed up." Also Ian: "So my dad got this from a veteran brought back" Wait, the timing is a bit too perfect......
@dbmail545
@dbmail545 2 года назад
I don't think Ian's dad would have let him chop weeds in the backyard with this, if that is what you are implying. And I do believe that he would have 'fessed up if he had.
@johnbreitmeier3268
@johnbreitmeier3268 2 года назад
@@dbmail545 Perhaps he kinda just did fess up and maybe his dad was not asked.
@atomic_wait
@atomic_wait 2 года назад
@@johnbreitmeier3268 Ian's own George Washington cherry tree myth is born...
@edi9892
@edi9892 2 года назад
@@dbmail545 I've heard enough stories of soldiers murdering civilians and giving jewelry and toys of the victims to their own family. That's a little creepy, if you ask me...
@TheEvertw
@TheEvertw 2 года назад
So, Ian is confessing to having hit his wee brother with this sword?
@tamonaji877
@tamonaji877 2 года назад
I’m Japanese and I learned a lot Funny story during war was that we couldn’t use English because it’s “enemy language” We had to call saxophone “金属製先曲がり音響出し機" or metal nose bend sound generator
@torismegistos7111
@torismegistos7111 2 года назад
Hello, would you be interested in a little interview for an article? Pm me if you are interested. Arigato !
@InvagPrune
@InvagPrune Год назад
Saxophone is originally French but of course that was also an enemy language, i wonder how interchangeably that word and others are used today?
@budgetcommander4849
@budgetcommander4849 3 месяца назад
@@InvagPruneI don't think anyone is calling a saxophone that anymore.
@carlsdrumshop
@carlsdrumshop 2 года назад
My wife’s grandfather had one of these. Our grandfathers fought in opposite sides of WWII and I think that is fascinating.
@kfeltenberger
@kfeltenberger 2 года назад
My father commanded a PT boat in the South Pacific during WW2 and I remember him telling me stories of dumping barrels of swords and guns off the boat after they shot up landing barges. Some they kept as trading goods, but most of them went over the side.
@GazB85
@GazB85 2 года назад
What a waste, they could have at least recycled the metal.
@kfeltenberger
@kfeltenberger 2 года назад
@@GazB85 Nah, it would take too much to get them back to where they could be recycled.
@calebsmith6202
@calebsmith6202 2 года назад
What a waste, they could have at least brought them over so I can have Japanese surplus
@CircaSriYak
@CircaSriYak 2 года назад
“I lost all my katanas in a boating accident.”
@samy7013
@samy7013 2 года назад
@@CircaSriYak : Seriously underrated comment! 🤣😂😁👍
@Kameth
@Kameth 2 года назад
"It's been in my rifle collection- -and let me tell you it's a nightmare. While it has a striking slimline design, I've never managed to get it to dry fire, let alone actual fire as I just cannot find the right ammo that fits and has a terrible barrel that is surprisingly sharp - so much so you could lose your fingers when you grip it. Honestly, this is why I like French rifles, they're just so much more reliable."
@user-mj7qw6xo1u
@user-mj7qw6xo1u 2 года назад
You posted grinch on main
@gagekieffer772
@gagekieffer772 2 года назад
@@user-mj7qw6xo1u hello yes what the hell does this mean?
@effdiffeyeno171
@effdiffeyeno171 2 года назад
I read all of that in his voice! 🤣
@dannycork423
@dannycork423 2 года назад
@@gagekieffer772 I'm assuming it's a discord reference, although I dont know what grinch means
@Kameth
@Kameth 2 года назад
@@gagekieffer772 I'm assuming an auto-correct of 'cringe'
@bayoh777
@bayoh777 2 года назад
It always gives me a pang of sadness when I remember that my grandfather on my Japanese side (I'm Japanese-American) had to hand in the family's sword. It and a scroll that traced back our family tree were the heirlooms passed down and the sword was hundreds of years old. My father tried many years to try and track down the sword, but it was more than likely tossed into the Pacific instead of making it's way to a museum, or at the very least, someone's home.
@DeltaElite121
@DeltaElite121 2 года назад
My dad bought one of these cut down officer swords.. still insanely sharp to this day. One of my goals was to have the blade inspected and tsuka translated so I can return it to the originating family when I eventually receive it from him.
@andrewdonovan219
@andrewdonovan219 2 года назад
That is sad. I wonder why he didn't keep it and hide it like so many others did.
@karrotakun3581
@karrotakun3581 2 года назад
@@andrewdonovan219 Like many other Japanese people at the time, especially military, he probably felt immense shame for losing the war and decided he wasn't worthy of carrying it anymore. Can't say for sure though.
@bayoh777
@bayoh777 2 года назад
@@andrewdonovan219 He was the only officer on the tiny island he was stationed on that spoke English. He managed to negotiate the surrender on their behalf and I believe he handed it over to whoever the commanding officer was in an impromptu ceremony. I honestly wish I knew more about it, but both he and my father have passed. I can only really go on what I remember from them talking of it in my childhood. I've tried learning more about it, but I couldn't find anything as it was one of many inconsequential islands with only like a dozen or so soldiers on it that US forces literally skipped by cause it wasn't worth fighting over. In an equally sad event, he had actually hand written out an autobiography of his time during WW2 and of when he managed the surrender, but... the publishing house he handed over his manuscript to ended up being a scam and it was lost when they just up and disappeared.
@andrewdonovan219
@andrewdonovan219 2 года назад
@@bayoh777 this is terrible, even his story was taken from him.
@vanargrand3199
@vanargrand3199 2 года назад
1. It's a sword from japan 2. It's from a historic war 3. It's a family heirloom already 4. It was a symbol of rank and status It's no lesser than any other pre-meiji restoration sword other than it's rushed manufacturing process. It's a bona-fide Samurai sword.
@thesimarillion7738
@thesimarillion7738 2 года назад
I don't have a type 95 sword - all the swords that I have collected over the years were hand forged and most of them signed by the smith who made them. I like to think that all the swords that I do have were carried by Warriors! Even the type 95 swords were carried into War! They all deserve respect!
@Hobbie375
@Hobbie375 2 года назад
I recently inherited a Type 95 sword from my grandfather who picked it up in Korea when his division disarmed the local Japanese garrison. I even have the GI take back paperwork authorizing it’s entry to the US. Fantastic timing on this video. Now to preorder the book.
@RageUnchained
@RageUnchained 2 года назад
That’s awesome, thanks for sharing
@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing 2 года назад
I was actually going to commission a real, no BS tradional-made Shinken (Katana) for $6500 back in '03, but dress the tang as a US cavalry saber and make it a family/service heirloom to be passed down. My choice was that or a motorcycle. I cheesed out and got the motorcycle. I kinda wish I had just commissioned the sword, it would have broken down a lot less than the Sportster and saved me more in the long term. And if you're going to kill yourself with it, at least you'll go with more style.
@Hobbie375
@Hobbie375 2 года назад
@@Jason-fm4my I'm unaware of the exact garrison his brigade disarmed.
@elvenisar
@elvenisar 2 года назад
as a Korean, I give big thanks to your grandfather.
@Hellston20a
@Hellston20a 2 года назад
@@elvenisar That's it. Acknowledge that Japanese swords are cool as f*ck, but give thanks to the people that kicked Japan's ass.
@hektonian
@hektonian 2 года назад
I mean... it's "Forgotten Weapons" not "Forgotten Firearms", after all
@FoxtrotFleet
@FoxtrotFleet 2 года назад
Is that what I'm watching? Damn, can anyone point me to Misremembered Armaments?
@DrSabot-A
@DrSabot-A 2 года назад
@@FoxtrotFleet I dont know much about that, but maybe you're looking for Bygone Ordnances?
@logi7671
@logi7671 2 года назад
I saw a Pacific veteran account of fighting in the Pacific, he said that one Japanese soldier was trying to get behind the lines and was captured. The only thing that he had on him was a photograph. A photograph is not of his wife children or family but, of him executing someone by sword and, trying to get their head to fall into a basket before them. That was the most important thing in his life...
@toytacambery9427
@toytacambery9427 2 года назад
They did that to civilians. Very honorable.
@212th
@212th 2 года назад
There's a video on RU-vid with a marine veteran. He notes that a dead Japanese had a picture of him and his squad. In China, standing next to a cage filled with decapitated heads
@jonathantan2469
@jonathantan2469 2 года назад
In Southeast Asia, the Japanese katana gained a negative reputation among the older generations, especially those who lived through the war. The Japanese would often use these to behead POWs, captured rebels, and civilians. An oft repeated urban legend claims that when a Japanese officer drew his sword in public, it could only be re-sheathed after it had spilt blood.
@notfeedynotlazy
@notfeedynotlazy 2 года назад
@@jonathantan2469 that was the legend of when a samurai sword could be resheathed. And originally was meant to _prevent_ that kind of behaviour, i.e., a cautionary "do not draw the sword just to scare people or brag" tale - which OF COURSE was turned into "lookie, I drew my sword for funsies, now I gotta kill someone". Such is life.
@notfeedynotlazy
@notfeedynotlazy 11 месяцев назад
@@user-oc1tf7oz6y Uh, indeed you are 100% correct in the "Japanese steel was utter shit" (mad skills their smiths had, being able to make serviceable tools and weapons out of that crap, I tell you) and in the "sword was ceremonial and cherished and the very symbl of being above a commoner, but the prefered battlefield weapon was something else with the sword being just a backup" (hilariously, _exactly_ like a knight's sword), but you are actually wrong about something: for most of their story it was, in fact, forbidden by law for commoners to own or carry katanas. Originally it was just the prohibition of carrying the fanous "long/short" pairing (the very symbol of samuraihood), but later on the laws strengthened and the katana itself was forbidden. _Of course,_ that didn't stop commoners from carrying swords that technically were not katanas, or yakuza clans (which, hilariously, were the actual government of many a town during centuries due to deals with the shogunate in exchange of support) to openly carry actual katanas. Then carrying swords, period, was forbidden by law. And as you can bet, that marks the point in history when you start finding tantōs with a length of one inch less than the legal definition of sword. Japan: shitposting IRL since the Middle Ages. Edit, just in case someone actually reads again that wall of text🙂: And the latter thing of the post is why the word tantō used to mean a short sword and now means a knife, to the desperation of translators worldwide. Never change, Japan.
@pieceofschmidtgamer
@pieceofschmidtgamer 2 года назад
It's great to see you do something like this to remind people that your channel name is Forgotten *_Weapons_* not Forgotten Firearms. On another note, it's really interesting to see something that really represents the perversion of traditional Bushido in the wider Imperial Japanese society within a single object.
@pieceofschmidtgamer
@pieceofschmidtgamer 2 года назад
@@nickaschenbecker9882 There's also the fact that traditional Bushido called for showing compassion towards a defeated enemy. I think we can all see how the Imperial Japanese treated that little tidbit.
@notfeedynotlazy
@notfeedynotlazy 2 года назад
@@pieceofschmidtgamer Very true. Even the very idea of Bushido as we know it was not the original stuff, but the late XIX - very early XX century romantized retelling of it - which is what was "sold" to soldiers and civilians alike, etc. It was a very deliberate use of traditional bushido as a propaganda tool, and I agree with the original poster that this kind of swords are, amusingly, the single object that bests represents such just by its very existence.
@allengordon6929
@allengordon6929 2 года назад
Then true bushido would be represented by the bow. It was the samurai's original weapon. Shinto doesn't consider swords innately holy, but they do consider bows innately holy.
@notfeedynotlazy
@notfeedynotlazy 2 года назад
@@allengordon6929 Ah, a man of culture...
@hairymcnipples
@hairymcnipples 2 года назад
The *word* Bushido was invented in, I believe, the 19th century by someone who never fought a battle in their life. Samurai weren't generous ascetics, like western knights they were little better than bandits seizing whatever they could from the peasantry. "Bushido" and similar western concepts exist because more modern descendents of these real pieces of shit wanted to romanticise their past, trying to pass off their ancestors as truly noble. It's almost entirely bunkum.
@wastintime22
@wastintime22 2 года назад
Ian, it’s funny I’m at work, in Japan, while watching this and I’m more of a sword guy than a gun guy. I’ve actually lived in Japan, have been practicing Kendo and Iado since I was a kid, and own a few swords. This was a really cool and unexpected video. While I’m personally much more interested in the older Japanese swords, I may have to pick up a copy of swords of the emperor. It’s a neat endeavor to branch out on.
@Fish-ub3wn
@Fish-ub3wn 2 года назад
Iaido, You meant, fellow swordsman?
@projektkobra2247
@projektkobra2247 2 года назад
I lived in Osaka for 8 years..and that place stole my heart...I wish I never came "home"
@thomasdawe1837
@thomasdawe1837 2 года назад
@@projektkobra2247 5 years in Osaka for me. If it were not for the impossibility to assimilate culturally, even with fluent Japanese, I would've stayed.
@Bagledog5000
@Bagledog5000 2 года назад
@@thomasdawe1837 Is it actually necessary to assimilate? I'm here going on ten years and while I may never be assimilated into the culture, that's not such a bad thing at the end of the day. I mean my in laws, coworkers and friends accept me and I don't really need much more than that. Besides that, the trains run on time and the food and healthcare are better here.
@FoxtrotFleet
@FoxtrotFleet 2 года назад
@@Bagledog5000 Hey if you're not bothering anybody and you're comfortable I think you're good.
@joed9849
@joed9849 2 года назад
Can't wait to see this in the range!
@shukterhousejive
@shukterhousejive 2 года назад
The spinner has met its match
@948320z
@948320z 2 года назад
He did took it to a match! (Type 94 Nambu at the Backup Gun Match) He used the sword as the "backup" backup weapon... The sword worked batter than the nambu at that match lol
@nicolopez4963
@nicolopez4963 2 года назад
I know it’s a fairly well known book but, Eugene sledge that wrote with the old breed on Peleliu and Okinawa. In interviews described how on might think it was silly to have a sword in battle but that he had multiple buddies killed at night in fox their holes by sword, bayonet, and knife. Saying he personally saw a good friends right arm amputated by a Japanese officer.
@d.pierce.6820
@d.pierce.6820 2 года назад
Some more advise about Type 95 NCO swords: There are NO signatures or any other marks under the handle. The handle is not meant to be removed, and if you do, chances are the sword handle will not fit as tightly as before, and it will be loose and rattle.
@dogwoodhillbilly
@dogwoodhillbilly 2 года назад
This is only applicable to the version that Ian has, the Early War versions are actually built more like a real/historic Katana and can be field stripped.
@d.pierce.6820
@d.pierce.6820 2 года назад
@@dogwoodhillbilly nonsense.Why on earth would you take one apart?
@dogwoodhillbilly
@dogwoodhillbilly 2 года назад
@@d.pierce.6820 Nonsense? I own one of the Type 94 NCO Shin Guntos that are meant to be taken apart when necessary, the Type 94 version is built like a traditional Katana so it is meant to be taken apart and field stripped when needed. In case you still don't know what I am talking about, the one I own is the kind that has the forger's name underneath the handle, has a bamboo peg, has the Nagoya Arsenal mark under the handle as well.
@DH-xw6jp
@DH-xw6jp 2 года назад
@@dogwoodhillbilly what you aparrently have is one made with an ancestral blade, not a factory built one.
@dogwoodhillbilly
@dogwoodhillbilly 2 года назад
@@DH-xw6jp How is it ancestral when it has the Nagoya arsenal mark on the blade?
@Bacteriophagebs
@Bacteriophagebs 2 года назад
The process used for the blades was actually pretty clever. The Japanese wanted the soft core/hard blade style of traditional katanas but without the smithing or expensive tooling, so a guy figured out how to use railroad manufacturing equipment to stick soft steel inside hard steel, then smash it into shape in very large quantities.
@dreadnought8363
@dreadnought8363 2 года назад
I'd love to read up on this, do you by chance have some material regarding it?
@engineeredlifeform
@engineeredlifeform 2 года назад
Yeah, 'billet steel' isn't such a bad thing. The whole sandwiching, welding, folding and differential hardening was done because the raw material wasn't great. I have a book on Japanese Swords somewhere that has an entire section giving names to flaws that arise due to the traditional forging process. Swords could be identified by, or earned names because of these flaws. Billet steel might not be as romantic, but it's pretty consistent.
@jakekaywell5972
@jakekaywell5972 2 года назад
I find these blades endlessly fascinating from an industrial design perspective. Taking what was once a highly rarefied status symbol and making it suitable for mass-production.
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 2 года назад
@@dreadnought8363 the Man At Arms YT channel has an episode where they show how it was done. Pretty slick setup, honestly, they took a chunk of hard round stock and machined a hole in the center, then turned a chunk of soft steel round and just a tiny bit bigger than that hole. Put the soft steel into the freezer while the hard steel is heating up, and if you got the sizes right you can just drop the soft steel into the hole. Let the two come to room temperature before you reheat the block and forge weld them.
@FoxtrotFleet
@FoxtrotFleet 2 года назад
@@dreadnought8363 Ian also has the new book he's selling but I'll second Man At Arms YT. Great stuff.
@9SS94Cr
@9SS94Cr 2 года назад
According to some claims, Japanese went back to katana style swords for some practical reasons during the early stage of their invasion into China. As they engaged melee combat with the local polulace, they found out the western-style one handed saber had difficulties cut through the heavy winter clothing worn by the resistance force, so they specifically asked for two-handed designs when the army was commissioning for new sword designs. I really like shin gunto. They are literally the last generation of swords that were designed for actual combat.
@FkRoP
@FkRoP 2 года назад
Correct, experience in Manchuria proved the need for a two handed grip. Nationalism and the spirit of the samurai did the rest.
@Liquid_Rigel
@Liquid_Rigel 2 года назад
actual combat against civilian resistance forces lmao
@Insandom
@Insandom 2 года назад
Makes sense, plus that there'd be close combat in China considering the heavily developed population centers, lots of buildings.
@zaholykrusedar1459
@zaholykrusedar1459 2 года назад
To be fair, one handed saber only be popular in the west when firearms were widely used, therefore western that time would rather wear good-protection armour or clothes that providing no protection but places to store bullets and gunpowder than thick-layers clothes Since most places in asian still doin medieval things, that's not a bad idea after all
@wills2140
@wills2140 Год назад
Weather requested by Japanese soldiers invading Manchuria and China or because of nationalist and militaristic governments at home, swords like this and the officer's model killed far more civilians than any armed combatant ( Ally or "retreating" Japanese ).
@jongrossardt7542
@jongrossardt7542 2 года назад
Just a note - the Japanese were still producing handmade swords throughout the war also, the folded, polished, tempered types. My first katana was a Kinmichi signed 1943 manufactured one.
@panoctic
@panoctic 2 года назад
You mean a gendaito, funny enough arent some guntos today illegal un japan?
@andrewdonovan219
@andrewdonovan219 2 года назад
@@panoctic japan has a weapons law that among other things bans swords over a certain length. this would apply to all katana theoretically however there is an exception for swords made in the "traditional Japanese art" obviously factory mass produced swords from ww2 is not traditional Japanese art so they are illegal.
@YamamotoKazuo
@YamamotoKazuo 5 месяцев назад
These shin guntos were a few inches shorter than a katana for convenient single hand cuts because the imperial army sword training were heavy based on sabre fencing. Some officers didn't even know how to use the sword properly. It's also more curved compared to the katana.
@StopItRyan
@StopItRyan 2 года назад
Ian actually nailed the Japanese pronunciations, just some minor accent differences but that's like tomato versus tomAto.
@astarothk2273
@astarothk2273 2 года назад
when you recognise "arms" isnt limited to pew pews, but cannons, swords, spears, that table, and blades capable of cutting ships in half and split causality itself
@ermosazorius4279
@ermosazorius4279 2 года назад
I own a pilot's or tanker's variant or what's left of it. It came from a crash so the handle and wrap burned away, the scabbard was never found it still has a very large amount of the owners blood all over it. It very clearly used to be a family blade given the remaining fittings and the name of the smith being etched into the tang. Even blackened, blood stained and very slightly rusty it's still a beautiful blade.
@matthewcaughey8898
@matthewcaughey8898 Год назад
There’s a push in recent years to see ancestral blades returned to their owners. If you know someone who can read Japanese script they might be able to tell you which family the sword belonged to. If they’re still alive I’m positive that family will be grateful you returned a heirloom to them
@wills2140
@wills2140 Год назад
Restore it, keep it, or give it a decent museum. Forget about returning a combat weapon to a nation that disavowed ever using it again because they dishonored the "military tradition".
@Hashashin_Fidayin
@Hashashin_Fidayin 2 года назад
I have one #24497, its in really bad shape; covered with finger prints and gunk and covered with scrapes. All the lacquer is gone and is worn down to base. Thank you for sharing your example, its in much better condition!
@GunnerAsch1
@GunnerAsch1 2 года назад
Rebuild your sword. Colors and paints are readily available. Your sword has little value..so restore it as best you can. Like refinishing an old Win 94 beater.
@then00brathalos
@then00brathalos 2 года назад
Try to restore it/ find someone to restore it if you can. Im sure the sword is begging to feel shiny again
@jaceelliott6317
@jaceelliott6317 2 года назад
Imagine being a Marine, armed with an M1 Garand and a 1911, the gold standards of modern combat weapons, going house to house in some village, clearing rooms, only to have a gray haired Japanese NCO explode out from behind a door screaming and swinging at you with one of these like a samurai. The oh shit factor involved cannot be overstated.
@minuteman4199
@minuteman4199 2 года назад
In his book "Quartered Safe Out Here". George MacDonald Frazier talks about fighting against hand to hand with Japanese soldiers armed with swords in Burma.
@toytacambery9427
@toytacambery9427 2 года назад
Imagine being a civilian women or child at Nanking in 1937. Then, a bunch of people wielding these show up and r*p3 you and your family. Actually happened unlike your made up little fairy tale.
@notfeedynotlazy
@notfeedynotlazy 2 года назад
For amusement value, the reason the European armies stopped using swords was NOT (as often mis-stated) their obsolescence as weapons; it was that in WWI they marked the wielder as a bullet magnet -err, officer. But swords are actually quite a dangerous thing to go against in close combat. In those weird, uncommon, anecdotal ocasions where a modern gunfight develops into a modern swordfight (like the aforementioned Burma), the "oh shit" factor _certainly_ can NOT be overstated.
@thepoliticalgunnut8018
@thepoliticalgunnut8018 2 года назад
Not to mention he would screaming TENNO HAIKA BANZAI!!!! at the top of his lungs.
@tomaspabon2484
@tomaspabon2484 2 года назад
Its especially jarring because you've gotten no training to defend against that. Knives and bayonets for sure but what the fuck do you do against a sword?
@8c.16.haganahadam3
@8c.16.haganahadam3 2 года назад
It's just a big Japanese bayonet
@theoriginalmikaveli
@theoriginalmikaveli 2 года назад
The "folded a million times" thing is largely a myth. In reality, folding more than 20-30 times or so was more common (which produces around 1 million layers...), as each time there is a risk of introducing pockets / impurities between layers - and any benefit is reduced.
@GorgeousRandyFlamethrower-
@GorgeousRandyFlamethrower- 2 года назад
I remember reading somewhere that the large-ish number of foldings that Japanese swordsmiths put their blades through was not to make the resulting steel a better quality than what the cultures of Europe and Middle-east had. It was done because Japanese iron ore was (is?) on average of inferior quality compared to what Europe and Middle-east have. So maybe they had to fold *some* extra times to weed out the impurities, but not too many times so as to avoid pockets or impurities between layers? I'm not a smith or a metallurgist, so any confirmation regarding Japanese iron ore quality and the ways they had to take it into account in the forging process would be appreciated.
@theoriginalmikaveli
@theoriginalmikaveli 2 года назад
@@GorgeousRandyFlamethrower- from what I understand (and I'm no expert myself) the folding was also to distribute the carbon content equally. What surprised me, was to find out some sword makers often laminated the blades with different types of steel (in addition to the folding etc.).
@Dong_Harvey
@Dong_Harvey 2 года назад
@@theoriginalmikaveli yes, they were blending hard steel (high carbon, sharp but brittle, used in razors) and soft steel (lower carbon, not sharp but resilient, used in hammers). This offset their limited capacity for iron on the islands of Japan throughout their premodern history, which also effected the use of swords in combat, they primarily used archery not swordsmanship in battle Even after industrialization, they had a limited capacity to produce iron/steel products and subsequently relied on other metals and even carpentry to realize modern production until ultimately invading other countries and stealing their resources, thus stimulating their war machine further
@notfeedynotlazy
@notfeedynotlazy 2 года назад
@@GorgeousRandyFlamethrower- In layman's termns (since you admit not being an expert), yes, that is more or less the situation. Is a simplification, but not TOO much of it. The Japanese even have a word (which I learned 30 years ago and forgot in my old age, gomen) for steel that has been folded too many times and is no longer good swordmaking material.
@Alacrity23688
@Alacrity23688 Год назад
You fold it 20 times and you'll have 2^20 layers, which is more than a million
@KriminalKrampus
@KriminalKrampus 2 года назад
there's something incredibly cool to me about mass producing what's essentially a ceremonial weapon
@bobhunt5820
@bobhunt5820 Год назад
Ian crushes it in every video. It's a treat to see someone that good at his job. Extremely well researched and perfect info delivery. Also very expertise at assembly and disassembly of any weapon.
@KelvGaming
@KelvGaming 2 года назад
Wanted to leave joke comment that there's no literal teardown being done, but after seeing Ian describing the entire sword like his usual firearm teardown, I am mighty impressed that I'll rescind that joke 😂
@mannywilliams6409
@mannywilliams6409 2 года назад
Well, the handle and guard can be removed.
@Neeverseen
@Neeverseen 2 года назад
They are meant to be taken apart. You just pop out the pin in the handle and pull it off.
@vedolre
@vedolre 2 года назад
Teardown parts: Screws, Suba, Blade,
@d.pierce.6820
@d.pierce.6820 2 года назад
there's no reason to take an NCO sword apart. There's nothing written on the sword tang, and you will likely never get it back together as tightly as original, so it will just rattle and be loose.
@rzu1474
@rzu1474 2 года назад
I gotta say the idea a modern army still using swords just because of tradition gives me sci-fi vibes almost
@mephistopheles-ud2td
@mephistopheles-ud2td Год назад
The US Military still uses swords, though for purely ceremonial purposes.
@notfeedynotlazy
@notfeedynotlazy 2 года назад
For amusement value, since the _real_ purpose of the folding was to homogenize the low or mixed quality steel that medieval Japanese swordsmiths had to work with into an useable, homogenous-quality billet for forging, some of those guntos, made industrially with modern-produced steel, are _actually better_ blades than _some_ of the old, traditional, fancy blades were. (Angry comments of weebs failing to realize that "some" does NOT mean, nor imply, "all", in 3, 2, 1...)
@CraftyChicken91
@CraftyChicken91 2 года назад
I'm not surprised. Plus these got a modern heat treat.
@kn2549
@kn2549 Год назад
Katanagari(sword hunting) was common during the occupation of Japan when allied soldiers went from house to house to collect swords as well as family antiques from civilians at gun point. My father’s side of family owned a katana that dates back from the 16th century but kept this hidden in their backyard when the American soldiers came. They also implemented anti-firearm laws for the civilians as part of the demilitarization process. Instead of giving up their katana, my grandfather’s family gave up their hunting rifles. Yes, civilian firearm laws were ALOT more loose and widely accepted in Imperial Japan than modern day.
@helifanodobezanozi7689
@helifanodobezanozi7689 2 года назад
Ian, as amazing as this may sound, there was quite a bit of swordplay (on both sides) in the Philippines during WW2. Besides the Japanese, local Philipino partisans were equipped with bolo swords, barongs, kampilans and other styles of indigenous swords. The Philippines is as much of a sword culture as Japan. On top of this, even US Army troops from the 1st and 2nd Filipino Regements, formed outside of Los Angeles, CA, were equiped and trained in the use of bolo swords made and donated by the LA area Filipino community. If you read the memoir of Sergeant Leo Giron, published in the 1970's by the decorated US veteran, he describes the tactics and motivation behind these clashes. In short, in dense jungles, main battle rifles like the Garand were a liability due to the low visibility and the potential for friendly fire. Pistols, shotguns, submachine guns and bolo swords were the weapons of choice.
@helifanodobezanozi7689
@helifanodobezanozi7689 2 года назад
Here is a 1943 Newsreel of the 2nd Filipino Regiment. At the end of the video you will see them being issued their bolo swords. The two Regiments requested, and were allowed to undergo short sword training in lieu of the standard US Army bayonet training: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Imq6XDzjSIo.html
@zxggwrt
@zxggwrt 2 года назад
They must have been some fierce, motivated fighters!
@Khan.WrathOf
@Khan.WrathOf 2 года назад
The bolo is a mean tool. It's not even really a sword. More like if a bowie knife and a hatchet had a baby. All the weight is in the blade so it's ability to chop dense material requires little effort outside of maintaining blade alignment with the target.
@helifanodobezanozi7689
@helifanodobezanozi7689 2 года назад
@@Khan.WrathOf Some bolos are knives, some are utilitarian tools (machetes), and some are swords. It all depends on the length, weight and most importantly, the grind on the blade. Some grinds are optimized for cutting vegetation, others for flesh and some take a middle of the road approach. As for balance, there are MANY different styles of bolo blades. Point of balance will differ from style to style. If you watch the newsreel, notice the length of the blades, relative to the height and body size of the Soldiers. Most of those men appear to be between 5'3 and 5'8. For people of their size, those are definitely short swords.
@sanchezroman8995
@sanchezroman8995 2 года назад
@@zxggwrt Ferdinand Magellan, the explorer, met his demise on These fierce , sword wielding Filipino ancient warriors in 1521 a.d. He was literally chopped up.. recorded by his expedition chronicler who managed to escape the carnage.. leaving Magellan's body behind.
@tankacebo9128
@tankacebo9128 2 года назад
I've got one of these. I also have a Navy sword, called a Kai-Gunto. that one is exceedingly rare. the funny thing about my Kai Gunto is that it was made at Toyokawa naval arsenal in July of 1945. they were absolutely just wasting resources on swords all the way up until the end. my grandfather was supposedly a peacekeeper after the war, and acquired it then. I only had a single picture of him, in combat dress. he also unfortunately committed suicide when my father was 5 years old, on account of what he saw 'over there'. I say "supposedly", because I don't think a peacekeeper after the war would suffer from such PTSD to do that, and the fact that he brought back a bunch of stuff, a helmet, a rifle, a flag, and the two swords. I never saw the flag, it disappeared in the 80s probably, and the helmet, my dad gave to his friend, and I got it back only a few years ago, although his friend had completely chromed the whole thing. my father probably destroyed or sold the rifle, he hated guns. I've still got the swords and helmet, along with a bunch of stuff from the other side of the family. I'm only 25, and even I played "good guy bad guy" with them when I was a kid.
@jonathany1240
@jonathany1240 2 года назад
I can imagine a number of things that could cause PTSD in that period, I mean, the fact he brought back arms like these makes me feel he didn’t exactly have a desk job
@tankacebo9128
@tankacebo9128 2 года назад
@@jonathany1240 that's my thoughts exactly. we don't know much about him. the man was an Enigma. He did go to Yale, I've got his class ring. he was a very smart man, and his wife, my grandma was an Aerospace engineer and advanced mathematics teacher. I really wonder what he saw over there that would drive him to that. plus all the "booty" he brought back (as my late father so eloquently put it). everyone on that side of the family has passed, and as I was the only son, along with being basically adopted, I really didn't know much more than that. my father once suggested that he was stationed at Nagasaki. I've got a paper from the DOD saying he was there circa 1955. that still doesn't add up either. who knows? maybe he was an OSS agent. that would have been cool.
@Dong_Harvey
@Dong_Harvey 2 года назад
@@tankacebo9128 there was a lot of 'disciplining' carried out through the postwar period all the way into the 60s. Plenty of former soldiers and 'inspired' Yakuza were not happy with the American presence (for good reason too). Given that, and the tendency of Japanese police to turn their eyes away from authoritarian abuse of power (a lot of police do that, not just Japan).. It's never too surprising to hear of some abuses leading to 'procured material' leaving in the hands of civilians
@vorynrosethorn903
@vorynrosethorn903 Год назад
There was some pretty horrific sexual violence during the occupation and it happened on quite the scale, if he were to have encountered or had to deal with that then it would make sense for him to be deeply affected, especially as very few perpetrators were ever brought to justice.
@wills2140
@wills2140 Год назад
Tank ,thank you for your story. Sad that swords like these were more likely to be used against civilians or unarmed prisoners than in all but the most desperate of battles against Allied soldiers.
@Lupin-Koolwood
@Lupin-Koolwood 2 года назад
This channel just gets cooler and more fascinating all the time!
@chubbycatfish4573
@chubbycatfish4573 2 года назад
"Damn guns! A knife never runs out of ammo!" - Razor
@-Bile-
@-Bile- 2 года назад
The japanese were absolutely correct in their assessment of swords. The katana are really cool. Edit: The scabbard is in no way representative of the average traditional katana. The scabbard is much closer to french sabers, or the Kyu Gunto of early imperial japan.
@code066funkinbird3
@code066funkinbird3 3 месяца назад
Cool
@jacksin3323
@jacksin3323 2 года назад
As a bladesmith and sword maker, its REALLY COOL to see an episode on blades. I would LOVE to see more Forgotten Weapons content on historical blades, as they ARE weapons. I would also like to say that I would be more than happy to lend you ANY of my own historical blades to do episodes on.
@Riceball01
@Riceball01 2 года назад
If you don't already, you should check out the Scholagladiatoria channel, it's a HEMA related channel but Matt, who runs the channel, is also an antique sword dealer and will of ten do reviews of his latest acquisitions or parts of his collection as well as modern reproductions.
@paleoph6168
@paleoph6168 2 года назад
@@Riceball01 Scholagladiatoria* (with a letter "g" not "b")
@wastedangelematis
@wastedangelematis 2 года назад
@@paleoph6168 nvm ... It sounds way more gory
@andresmorera6426
@andresmorera6426 2 года назад
A forgotten weapons scholagladiatoria collab would be absolutely amazing.
@mabs9503
@mabs9503 2 года назад
Meiji Restoration is a very fascinating period in Japanese history. Thanks, Watsuki.
@michaelhughes3302
@michaelhughes3302 2 года назад
Ian. This has been rather enjoyable and informed as per usual. Thank you.
@Aeroc0bra
@Aeroc0bra 2 года назад
Damn last time I was this early Forgotten weapons was still only a website.
@SemiLobster
@SemiLobster 2 года назад
I think you're overlooking the Chinese theatre, the fighting often devolved into very close combat such as the Battle of Xifengkou where the fighting got so close that Chinese forces were using their own dadao swords against the Japanese
@gaymansupreme
@gaymansupreme 2 года назад
Do you have a source? I'm interested, though I don't think he's necessarily looking over their use, it's just that these blades while probably used for cramped fighting, were also a tool to kill prisoners / civilians.
@cee9110
@cee9110 2 года назад
@@gaymansupreme Wikipedia sais that twenty assaults were launched on a portion of the great Wall and the underequiped Chinese repelled those twenty assaults with swords
@MyILoveMinecraft
@MyILoveMinecraft 2 года назад
China is a much underappricated war, the phase leading up to the sinno Japanese war to. Read into the dogmeat General. What we would today define as a crackhead (in the way he acted, smoked a ton of opium instead of crack) who was actually a really good general with alot of crazy stories around him. It's also up for discussion if he produced the first Chinese tank in his realm. Its unclear if studdebacker just helped with the design and it was made locally or if studdebacker actually made it
@SSSeTEDS
@SSSeTEDS 2 года назад
@@MyILoveMinecraft Ian just published a book on Chinese pistols. It's a bit forgotten now but Japanese atrocities were a major influence in the US at the time.
@FoxtrotFleet
@FoxtrotFleet 2 года назад
They issued swords because they didn't have rifles. Frankly, I'm only surprised that they weren't spears.
@itamikarura8672
@itamikarura8672 2 года назад
I have been wanting a video about shingunto for a long time. Thank you!
@tomiokaazure2796
@tomiokaazure2796 2 года назад
i appreciates this channel whenever they discuss a Sword especially a Japanese Swords
@TFZoia
@TFZoia 2 года назад
tmw you realize that the channel's name is Forgotten Weapons and not Forgotten Guns '-'
@TFZoia
@TFZoia 2 года назад
@@FurnishedIgloo Thx for the heads up, didn't even noticed
@Nobodynewduh
@Nobodynewduh 2 года назад
It’s so sad that traditional family swords were collected and destroyed after the war. So many beautiful pieces of work, hundreds of years old, gone.
@ShaddySoldier
@ShaddySoldier 2 года назад
Such is the nature of losing a war.
@marquee6
@marquee6 2 года назад
If one does not want to be destroyed, don't start a war.
@The.Red.Tomahawk
@The.Red.Tomahawk 2 года назад
It is not like modern japan is a freedom to own weaponry area...
@norbertolagrava4734
@norbertolagrava4734 2 года назад
destroyed or ''destroyed'' (this cutie is for daddy)
@The.Red.Tomahawk
@The.Red.Tomahawk 2 года назад
@Hunter6213 It is still a fascist country like most countrys,banning owning a piece of metal.
@wrakowic
@wrakowic 2 года назад
Really good variation for the channel Ian, thanks.
@jtfoto1
@jtfoto1 2 года назад
My father who fought in the Pacific with the Australian Army liberated one of these which I still own. It it similar but has a traditional sharkskin and bound handle held on by a peg. There is no blood groove and even to this day the blade is perfect and VERY sharp. I have been told that it is probably a type 98 model sword.
@michaeless882
@michaeless882 2 года назад
That is a wonderful heirloom, Ian, and you have the provenance which adds to its desirability. I can assure you the mass-produced Gunto were made of very high quality steel. I have an Arisaka bayonet and it is one of the most durable and tough blades one may find for mass production. I know this because my other Arisaka was used by my ex for everything from garden digging to chopping down shrubbery and it sustained very little damage except the blue was scratched off.
@kovona
@kovona Год назад
Really depends, the late war examples were said to have been made from mild steel.
@kl1thedominion
@kl1thedominion 2 года назад
Man, how do you reload this thing?
@getreal2977
@getreal2977 2 года назад
This was quite an unexpected but most welcome addition to your video collection Ian. I hope there will be more like these about melee weapons combined with some historical depth inside like e.g. your nice videos about battle field history videos. thank you and keep up the great work.
@kingcollin333
@kingcollin333 29 дней назад
They were actually used a lot. In "With the Old Breed" by E.B. Sledge, said that at three end of the battle of Okinawa they very last resistance on the island were commisioned officers with Shin Gunto swords who charged in full dress uniforms and were gunned down after one of the officers cut off a couple fingers from a Marine partying his sword. They were very sharp.
@PiYodTong
@PiYodTong 2 года назад
Just when I thought this channel couldn't get cooler!
@AlexandruNicolin
@AlexandruNicolin 2 года назад
The reason for which they made a lot of folds in the blades of the middle ages/early modern period was because their metallurgy was really poor, and what came out of the furnace had to be hand picked by color (the blacker it was, the more carbon it had) and pattern welded together, and had a lot of defects that had to be well mixed into the structure of the metal, so they wouldn't cause a catastrophic failure. On one hand the iron ore they had access to was of inferior quality, on the other their furnaces were not capable of entirely melting the ore, mixing the right amount of carbon in and floating the slag. That's why in modern times when crucible or Bessemer steel became available, that technique wasn't necessary anymore and blades could be made quicker, cheaper and of a better average quality.
@andreasfjellborg1810
@andreasfjellborg1810 2 года назад
Crucible steel isn't anything modern, think the oldest sword made from that material is from 6th century CE, and even the Norse had acces to that steel for a short period(probably before the trade route got closed of with Northern Iran in the 10th century CE), there is a documentary about the Norse swords, Ulfberth.
@AlexandruNicolin
@AlexandruNicolin 2 года назад
@@andreasfjellborg1810 Indeed it's not modern. It was invented probably in Southern India or Sri Lanka in the first centuries BC, and spread to the Middle East, from where ingots were traded as far as Northern Europe. They had a better quality iron ore down there, also containing some micro-elements such as tungsten and vanadium which gave it special properties. Crucible steel fully melts during manufacturing and has a predictable and uniform content of carbon and other elements, so it doesn't require pattern welding and repeated wrapping to for a good blade. But in East Asia that technology didn't spread for various reasons. The Japanese only had access to the tatara which is basically an open furnace that can't achieve very high temperatures and the iron is slowly carburated to steel over 3-5 days of slow burning. Then the resulting tamahagane, which is similar to bloomery steel is extracted, broken up, sorted and re-mixed to create a sword or other weapon or tool as I described above.
@user-cr4sc1ht9t
@user-cr4sc1ht9t 2 года назад
Japan was always out of touch with the outside world throughout known history, especially with Europe, so much so that "gun" meant copies of matchlocks brought to the country in late 15th century, until only few decades before WWI. It would not be a huge stretch to call a cutting edge 6th-10th century metallurgy a modern technology in that kind of context.
@davydatwood3158
@davydatwood3158 2 года назад
@@andreasfjellborg1810 Although if memory serves, any Norse blade actually made in Scandinavia also used pattern welding, because they were working with bog steel. Of course, an awful lot of their sword blades were made in Germany.
@andreasfjellborg1810
@andreasfjellborg1810 2 года назад
@@davydatwood3158 Pretty much everyone in the world did fold the steel/iron over and over, the Norse did pattern welding much from astetics too. wrought iron as a core with wolf tooh or some twisted pattern and steel on the edges. A sword back then was a status symbol, so why not make it pretty?. :)
@XBullitt16X
@XBullitt16X 2 года назад
It’s so cool Ian has one of these
@ncrtrooper2370
@ncrtrooper2370 2 года назад
Most honorable video gworious
@skenzyme81
@skenzyme81 2 года назад
Well, it is a weapon. So it fits the channel's name. I'm suddenly concerned how far this is going to go. Just kidding. Totally ready for it.
@rcfokker1630
@rcfokker1630 2 года назад
That was a lot more interesting than I expected.
@edvictor3258
@edvictor3258 2 года назад
This is awesome! I have one that was brought back from my grandfather from his time in the Pacific theatre
@richardbaxter2057
@richardbaxter2057 2 года назад
I was shown the sword that belonged to the Japanese Sergeant Major, who ran Changi Prison Camp. It was not one of these, having a proper traditional finish to the handle and scabbard. As Allied Forces approached Changi, the Japanese increased the rations to the Prisoners and handed over the Camp to them. The Allied Officer inmates of Changi, convened a Courts Martial and the Sergeant Major was sentenced to death and beaten to death with his sword, in its scabbard, this being the most dishonourable death that he could be afforded. The sword remains exceptionally sharp and is held by a local Regiment who were interned after the fall of Singapore.
@BoltFalco47
@BoltFalco47 2 года назад
There's an exhibit in the ww2 museum in New Orleans that displays a sword and a dented American helmet. The little card says the soldier encountered a Japanese officer at very close range while on patrol, the officer smacked the GI on the head with his sword as the GI shot him, the American soldier later woke up in the hospital with the helmet and sword laying next to him. Super interesting little story about Japanese sword usage, even if very last ditch and impractical as you said.
@apex107lrp
@apex107lrp 2 года назад
That is the scenario I always envisioned while looking at the Type 95 I acquired from my grandfather(too old to serve in WW2, who got it from a younger USN captain friend...medical doctor... serving in the Pacific). I usually describe it to people as a GI helmet denter...given the complete lack of useful cutting edge.
@Lo-tf6qt
@Lo-tf6qt 2 года назад
Best part was he kept the dented helmet and sword with him through the rest of the battle (think it was Guadalcanal tho I could be wrong) The guy's name was USMC Captain Walter Stauffer McIlhenny btw if anyone was wondering
@murdermeoninterchange
@murdermeoninterchange 2 года назад
Ian woke up like "Modernity Detected Opinion Rejected" and now we have this masterpiece
@damanyocum149
@damanyocum149 2 года назад
Awesome video Ian-great job buddy on a historic Japanese battle edged weapon
@leemon908
@leemon908 2 года назад
Fun fact: whether left handed or right hand you always hold it right handed as the blades are actually slightly tapered to be right handed. Left hand on the bottom right hand up high.
@Dovakhin94
@Dovakhin94 2 года назад
As far as I know samurai had to be right handed. There were probably left handed sword fighters back then but right handed was the norm every one hat to live by
@Rose.Of.Hizaki
@Rose.Of.Hizaki 2 года назад
10:48 - Not just Chinese. The same blades also ended the life of many innocent Filipino's... I am forever told about a church in the Philippines where a lot of Filipino's had gone to seek sanctuary from the Japanese soldiers, a lot of old people, women and children. Only for the solders to walk through the door, attempt to kill all the people inside then bayoneted them and cut them down with their swords (if they still had one) when their ammunition ran out and they needed to finish the job. The Japanese were in the process of losing control of the island to US forces and they wanted to do as much damage to the local natives before they withdrew.
@collector7993
@collector7993 2 года назад
Top stuff Ian. Give us more of this.
@MoldyStir-Fry
@MoldyStir-Fry 2 года назад
I love the way you say "A little dinky one", it's becoming one of my favorite phrases
@CaptApple
@CaptApple 2 года назад
The Cherry Blossoms cast beneath the string wrapped handle were not just artistic embellishment. They were duplicating a brass or bronze ornament that was traditionally placed beneath the string wrap but over the shark/manta ray skin on the handle. They held some significance that presently escapes me. Possibly to their house or allegiance?
@vorynrosethorn903
@vorynrosethorn903 Год назад
Chrysanthemum with was a common motif in the army and navy regulation swords is the symbol of the Imperial house, if it was a cherry blossom then those are usually associated with the nation by the Japanese, a bit like how they think black eyes and black hair mark them out (it doesn't, it's literally the most common and widespread colours), when referring to the country it will inevitably be either with reference to being an eastern island or as the land of cherry blossoms.
@CaptApple
@CaptApple Год назад
@@vorynrosethorn903 Chrysanthenum and Sakura. That's what I was looking for. Thank you. Didn't the various noble houses also have their own emblems that were used in this way?
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita Год назад
@@CaptApple yes,it depended from the clan though
@nankinink
@nankinink Год назад
@@CaptApple The chrysanthemum is the symbol of the emperor's family, displaying it, means more or less "honour to serve the emperor". AFAIK, the police still uses it. Also, the cast is called "目貫" (menuki), it helps adding grip to the handle and embellishes the sword.
@FelixstoweFoamForge
@FelixstoweFoamForge 2 года назад
To be honest, the whole "folding" thing was just because the original metallurgy wasn't up to producing sword-sized billets of decent steel, so blades HAD to be made of much smaller lumps hammered together, much the same as European pattern welded swords. A decent-quality modern steel, well heat-treated, is just as good as a moderate quality original one. (I've practiced the Tiama Ryu Naval kata. * basic moves, intended to teach non-swordsmen the basics. Unfortunately, move number 8 is a beheading. Always makes me uneasy doing that one). Nice sword!
@PoundItNailIt
@PoundItNailIt 2 года назад
Ya ever try #8 out on a chunk of meat? Or is that bad form?
@FelixstoweFoamForge
@FelixstoweFoamForge 2 года назад
@@PoundItNailIt With a Brush Hook, on a badly injured (punctured lung from a cat), stoat. Worked. Clean off in one blow.
@jongustavsson5874
@jongustavsson5874 2 года назад
As far as steel goes modern is far superior to any they did use when swords was standard equipment.
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey 2 года назад
Also, there's this misconception that the number of "folds" is the amount if times it's been folded. Fold once = 2 layers. Fold twice = 4, fold thrice = 8. 16, 32, 64, 128, etc. When you hear someone say "This katana was folded 1000 times!" they really mean it was folded 10 times (1024 layers) Fold it more than... I think it's like 12 times or something? and the steel becomes really brittle and starts to delaminate.
@S1L3NTG4M3R
@S1L3NTG4M3R 2 года назад
That was a great Review. I really appreciate your research, Thanks.
@Zerolis
@Zerolis 2 года назад
Cannot wait to see it on the range tomorrow!
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 2 года назад
They aren't the only ones looking at sword traditions. The M1902 Army Officer's Saber is also still "in use", albeit practically ceremonially. And bayonets are essentially knifes to be stuck onto rifles to turn them into spears. Also still in use. Having a cutty stabby sting is still better than a bare fist.
@wingatebarraclough3553
@wingatebarraclough3553 2 года назад
Both sides used "sword and lance" horse mounted cavalry till the end, you can see / find soviet produced "shashka" sabers produced in 1940, 1945, etc
@thecrowcook
@thecrowcook 2 года назад
The Marine Corps also still has a officers and nco sword the officers sword pattern traces its lineage all the way back to the battle of Tripoli
@andrewli6606
@andrewli6606 2 года назад
Tradition is often underestimated in decision making. The Marines ordered officers and NCOs to carry the m4 instead of a handgun to fit the tradition of every marine being a rifleman.
@mangetak2783
@mangetak2783 2 года назад
I have heard an interesting story about katana. Katana was a symbol of class already in Samurai period, Tokugawa shogunate era in the 17th to 19th century. In late 16th century, Guns were main weapon in the civil war. And Japanese had mass-produced matchlocks more than any European country at that time. Even a samurai with best sword skill could not match farmers/foot soldiers with guns, bows and arrows or long spears. A nicely crafted sword for a samurai was a symbol of commander class. After the civil war, the government started to disarm local feudal lords. They created the image of katana, rather inefficient close combat weapon, as a spirit of samurai and other weapons are not. Especially guns. In short, the government fantasized katana for gun control. I’m not good with history (and english grramer) but this theory is convincing to me.
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 2 года назад
hey that's interesting
@lars7935
@lars7935 Год назад
Also the Katana, as with most short or mid length swords, was alwyas a secondary weapon. A last defense on the Battlefield and a daily carry in peace.
@CameraFilmProductions
@CameraFilmProductions 2 года назад
I'd like to see more videos like this about non firearm weapons. I really like seeing what was fielded by different armies and seeing their unique cultural influences on the weapons they chose to use.
@penhullwolf5070
@penhullwolf5070 2 года назад
Watching Ian gesticulating over the edge of that blade keeps making me wince.
@carp0nastick
@carp0nastick 2 года назад
I was left a sword by my Grandfather, that I always thought might have been a knock off or something. Now I know it's for real. Thanks Ian!
@WyvernYT
@WyvernYT 2 года назад
The Type 95 is an interesting model, as the real thing looks like a knock off.
@NathanPa-xo3zj
@NathanPa-xo3zj 2 года назад
Ian should make "Forgotten Melee" new channel or Series for antique melee weaponry review
@FellsApprentice
@FellsApprentice 2 года назад
Collab with scholagladitoria
@philippinecircularflag2023
@philippinecircularflag2023 2 года назад
Imagine him reviewing a Caveman club
@imhollywood1015
@imhollywood1015 2 года назад
Nice change up. Refreshing.
@brianrmc1963
@brianrmc1963 10 месяцев назад
Great video. I am reminded of Stephen Hunter’s “The 47th Samurai.”
@BaronVonHardcharger
@BaronVonHardcharger 2 года назад
I appreciate the level of gravitas that Ian assumes when speaking about difficult subjects. While interesting, these sorts of things are often approached too lightly in our society. Well done. Would love to see a comparison on here with the Kyu-Gunto and adoption of the sabre by Japan during the Meiji period. :)
@thelegendaryklobb2879
@thelegendaryklobb2879 2 года назад
Matt Easton of Scholagladiatoria has a video on the kyu-gunto ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Pz-YSuC7oHY.html
@vampirecount3880
@vampirecount3880 2 года назад
" these sorts of things are often approached too lightly in our society." What do you mean?
@DrSabot-A
@DrSabot-A 2 года назад
@@vampirecount3880 Too lightly as in "Oh wow these swords are so cool, this is so much better than [this] specific sword! I couldnt care less where this is from, how it was made, why this was made, but this is perfect example of Japanese craftmanship!!"
@CThyran
@CThyran 2 года назад
@@DrSabot-A Sometimes a cool sword is just a cool sword. Not everything needs to devolve into some socio-economical tirade.
@vampirecount3880
@vampirecount3880 2 года назад
@@CThyran Yes, a sword is just a sword
@ultra_gagayay
@ultra_gagayay 2 года назад
That's a weird looking gun there
@jdmendieta7259
@jdmendieta7259 2 года назад
Facts
@dawnkeyy
@dawnkeyy 2 года назад
Yea, more like "Forgotten which weapons this channel is about"
@ecolone
@ecolone 2 года назад
That title... God bless you, Ian.
@Tom-jq8kf
@Tom-jq8kf 10 месяцев назад
This is awesome!!!!
@jackmambawitsin
@jackmambawitsin 2 года назад
Thanks Ian! I inherited one of the short swords from my Mother. I was told it belonged to her Father who was a shop owner in Japan. He gave it to my Mother and Father after they got married after the Korean War. The one I have has a cloth wrapping and has a black wooden scarab. I would but the new book but unfortunate I also have a paper shortage, the green kind with numbers on it.
@ducatipaso1386
@ducatipaso1386 2 года назад
Early billet steel '95s stood up to use in extreame cold weather (Manchuria) better than the handmade blades. Type 94/95 officers swords have lots of customization as they were private purchase items. One of the rarest options would be the "patent" kuchi gane saya and tsuba. Tassel colors (iirc): brown - sergeant/sergeant major, brown & blue - company/warrent officer, brown & red - field officer, brown/red & gold - general. In Japan machine made blades are considered weapons, not objects of art thus illegal to own.
@robertsneddon731
@robertsneddon731 2 года назад
New-manufacture blades can be bought in Japan -- there's a little shop in a town I visit (when I can) near Hiroshima that has been owned by a family of bladesmiths for about a hundred years or so. Their window display includes new-manufacture swords, fitted with simple wooden hilts as the purchaser will probably fit them with more elaborate hilts and furniture after purchase. Prices start at about 25 man yen (ca. 2500 dollars US) and go rapidly upwards for katanas and short-sword taichis are not much cheaper.
@ducatipaso1386
@ducatipaso1386 2 года назад
@@robertsneddon731Simple wooden "hilt" is a Shira saya the "proper" way to store blades. 25 will buy a pretty nice antique, looked at a rather ordinary wak in a very cool ebi (shrimp) themed saya in Ginza. Missed out on a VG slight touch up polish needed Kai hei gunto by 2.5 sold for 30. Interesting 30-50 'entry level' blades moves pretty fast. Got a friend trying to unload a very nice custom shinto from a famous smith that he's got 1000 into... not having much luck. The super high-end unexportable juyo or cultural asset level stuff usually only trades behind closed doors. I'm currently hunting for a Naval dirk.
@FkRoP
@FkRoP 2 года назад
A handful of 95s are papered in Japan. They shouldn't technically be, but they exist. And of course sell at a premium.
@dlatrexswords
@dlatrexswords 7 месяцев назад
Hey man, very late to finding this video of yours. Absolutely spectacular overview. Love the detail that you've gone into in looking at the type 35!
@Wuoffan1
@Wuoffan1 2 года назад
The lock/hook this has is really neat
@Dover78
@Dover78 2 года назад
Oh man, I never knew how badly I wanted to see a colab between you and one of the Swordtubers. Matt from Schola Gladiatoria has done a lot of reviews of more “modern” military swords.
@bigblockman11
@bigblockman11 2 года назад
Skulgrim or shadoversity would be a great idea
@Dover78
@Dover78 2 года назад
@@bigblockman11 Skall would be fun since he likes guns, too.
@bigblockman11
@bigblockman11 2 года назад
@@Dover78 he does? He doesn't seems to show much, but than again maybe it's the regulations?
@Dover78
@Dover78 2 года назад
@@bigblockman11 Yeah, he hasn't done much gun content on his channel but it is there. Mostly 4+ years ago.
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