Remington 870 Supermag 3.5" A Very Disappointing Unboxing 😕 

I just bought a Remington 870 Fieldmaster Supermag. It came with walnut wood furniture and a 28" barrel vent rib. Looks and feels amazing. I think you should have looked for one with the furniture you wanted instead of whatever this plastic one is

Hey Tom as a Remington Fanboy myself. I have come to find out that Remington is making complete garbage for the last few years. I have not bought a Remington shotgun rifle in over 15 years.. keep in mind I own over 20 different variants of Remington Products. I will never buy another

Completely agree with your review and it hurts my feelings. My father has a Remington 150th anniversary 870 that my mother got him new on their anniversary many years ago. It is truly drool worthy. Gorgeous high polish blue, beautifully figured walnut, two barrels, all in a custom soft case. I really hope Remington can get back to quality.

I'm 70 years old. Been a gun man since I was 13. Everything has changed. Can't depend on old brand names anymore. Same with ammo. It's depressing.

I read an article where after their bankruptcy. Remington said they would be building a cheaper version of guns. I wouldn't be surprised if the parts come from China. People in the comments were saying don't buy an 870 made after 2019 because it won't be what your use to or expecting. Mossberg is getting the same way. I own a 1983 Mossberg 500 and a 1989 Maverick 88 both have smooth action and are built like tanks. I bought another Maverick 88 in 2020 and it was a piece of crap! Built nothing like its 1989 brother. I also bought a Mossberg 590 and it is heavy as hell with gritty action. I'm going to start looking for older model shotguns! When they were built with pride.

Remington quality took a nose dive when Freedom Group bought them , I looked at a 870 in a shop that had the most absurd machine marks in the breech

I have many 870 Wingmaster shotguns from 12 ga to 410 ga and all of them were built before 1990 back when Remington cared about the guns that they built.

Just bought an older Super Mag, used but in great shape. Paid half the price of a new one. I see now the differnce-thanks for the video.

Wow, I just went into my safe and hugged my Ithaca that I bought when I was 17, in 1978. My first and it is beautiful, the feather weight. That looks like a POS . Ok for a woods or yard knock around

I have qn 870 I bought in the early 80's. I gave 275 for it. It has been a great gun. I've heard newer ones went downhill. Looks like they went off a cliff

Were you expecting a Holland & Holland Royal ?

It’s a sub $500 shotgun, what did you expect honestly? Does it function properly? The polymer trigger guard is actually more durable than the old metal ones .

Buy an old one, the older the better. My 1950s era 16 gauge 870 wingmaster has literally had thousands of rounds put through it, still going strong, the action is smooth as butter.

Thankfully I have a 870 Wingmaster Magnum from 1977. It's only a 3 inch but if I want to shoot 3 1/2 I have a couple of 10 gauges to choose from.

Starting with the “Express” line of 870’s final milling was excluded. They can be slicked up by smoothing out the rough cut marks inside the receiver & by slightly filing the rough edges of the action bars. The hammers, made differently than the older models can be ground & polished to take the grab out of the cocking /ejecting operation. Basically the new models are not finished as well as the older models.

To be fair, polymer makes a lot of sense for waterfowl hunters. I just grabbed the exact same scattergun but mine came with 3 chokes, checkering, and a sling swivel on the mag tube cap. I was happy with what I got for the price and my intended use (dragging through the woods and dropping birds)

Is it possible that you got a Freedom Group production? The newer Roundhill Group production seems to have better quality. But the reviews I have seen where about the Field Master and Wing Master not this model.

The 3.5 shotgun is way overkill with today's newer shells and chokes especially for turkey hunting .... just a waste of a lot of shot and no need for the recoil and weight of that shotgun .. IMO

That’s what happens when factory hires more managers than laborers, and every manager trying to show his importance instead of support the process. IMHO

Those but pads are pretty resilient. Makes shooting a magnum, especially light weight one, tolerable

I own 3 of these myself...all built seemingly better and one is a wingmaster super mag I've never shot. I'm gonna keep that 1 in the box for sure. Sad to see what that gun looks like compared to what is made today.

I bought an old 870 wingmaster made in 1958 fired a lot, smooth as butter and still solid as the day it was made, despite some bluing wear and the wood needing some attention, still a serviceable shotgun, the quality has really gone off a cliff with remington and its sad to see, also for some reason they stopped selling 870 parts to the public

I bought one about 7 yrs. ago. Evidently, a lot has changed. Mine came camouflaged from one end to the other. It has the honeycombed butt pad, polymer stock but the stock seems to be heavier than the one portrayed here. The trigger guard is metal. Basically, mine seems to be better built, even though it's not as well built as my 870 that I got back in 76. I bought mine used for $350 and added an extra full coyote choke tube. With #4 buckshot, it's quite effective at 50+ yds. and using regular #4 shot, it does a job on turkeys. Here's my suggestion and it applies to ALL firearms. NEVER buy any firearm until you have a chance to inspect it in your hands. That way you can nit pick before laying down the cash. BTW, of course the barrel would look thin once you remove the choke tube. The choke tube would add thickness to the barrel once it's installed.

The barrel is thin at the muzzle because the choke needs that room to fit and fills in what's missing, it's not the whole barrel that is thin.

I was gifted a Remington Model 870 Wingmaster with only one barrel which is vent rib with front post sight, no rear sights, and modified choked barrel, back when I was a very young adult. The double slides make it strong (I've seen pump shotguns with the single slide rail failing and breaking) and I never once had a problem with the shotgun I own. Yet I am sure that I would not buy a new plastic model. Oh, I own a savage 7MM-08 with a seemingly better, but still, plastic stock. A Remington 870 tears down quickly and easily for thorough cleanings. My bottom line is I'll happily keep the old one and pass on the new one.

I bought the Mossberg 3 1/2 when it came out for turkey and goose. It works very well. It does kill on both ends.

Well thanks for the info. You just saved me from making a $400.00 mistake. I was about to buy a slightly used one but gonna pass now. Thanks for putting the time in.

I am in 100% agreement that Remington products produced under the Freedom Group was junk. However the products being produced new ownership under RemArms are much better. This shotgun your reviewing was produced by the previous ownership. There are several ways I can tell… 1). This shotgun is not shown in production on the current RemArms website. 2). Current (new) RemArms produced shotguns has the word “Remington” molded into the bottom of the polymer trigger guard 3). Also, RemArms produced shotguns have the word “Remington” molded into the rear of the recoil pad as opposed to the side of the recoil pad on this shotgun. 4). RemArms increased the size of the slide release button significantly. The one you have has the older, shorter one. 5). The new RemArms 870’s are being shipped with a sling swivel attached to the magazine cap. Freedom Group 870’s were notorious for not showing up with that sling swivel. 6). The barrel on the new 870’s are tapered where it joins the receiver. 7). Lastly, I have seen and also been told (although I cannot absolutely confirm) is that the new RemArms produced 870’s have a serial number that begin with “RA”. I am almost certain the gun you purchased was a Freedom Group 870 leftover. Since you’re a fan on walnut furniture, I’d suggest you trade this 870 for a new RemArms produced 870 Fieldmaster and do a follow up review.

From looking at that particular model that doesn’t look like a new REM Arms production, that appears to be a freedom group production shotgun, rem arms discontinued the express line and from what I can tell is test firing it’s guns and doing more polishing using better forged/billet parts instead of mim, plus they’re now drilled and taped.

Has not been the same since the Wingmaster.

I'll hold on to my old 870's thanks for the video and information grate job 👍

I wish Winchester would bring back the model 1200 tactical model. It was fantastic.

They don't warrant newly made Remingtons or previously made Remingtons. I paid for a versa max barrel that was back ordered and when they went under I lost my money and got no barrel. New company told me tuff shit. I've made it a point to let everyone know and comment on every video their channel puts up. They bought the name and want the legacy put not the commitment.

My mossberg 835 kicks that thing's A##!...in every respect! GOOD STUFF ,TURKEY!..subscribed!

I bought a Remlin 1895 although it wasn't built very pretty it is super accurate. I'm glad I bought it used and probably wouldn't have paid full price for it.

I love my 1976 - 12 Gauge 870 Remington Wingmaster. Different time different function needs as there is steel shot. Miss the good old days!

I agree quite disappointing. I have one of these. I bought it when it was first offered its steel (cast metal parts) and wood. I removed the wood and replaced it with a set if Bell & Carlson synthetic Bottomland camo. I have taken geese and turkeys. ONLY MISTAKE I made buying it was I traded a Ithaca 51 10ga semi to buy it... But mine runs perfect Im glad I have it. I am a 870 fan must have 7/8 of them in all gauges and different variants

Thank you for preventing me from buying a Remington. I've had several 10 years ago and they were used shotguns. Sold all off years ago. Time for a new 1 This isn't it. Much appreciated sir

Too much negatives is a positive. Paid by competitors? I love my Remington Steel !

Clean it up and shoot it before you replace the stock. Make sure it works. The last two Remington 870 Express shotguns I bought from Walmart didn't eject reliably. They were releasing rounds from the magazine before they ejected the fired case from the chamber. So sad. Remington was once a great company.

I have a Remington Wingmaster from the 70's, long barrel and came with an extra deer slayer barrel, it is a piece of art, smooth action, beautifully carved wood stock, like most stuff today it's all about corporate greed with zero pride taken in the product. I agree this new 870 is a pos.

Luckily I have an older model that came with wooden furniture, swapped those out for some camo furniture with a nice matching sling. Badass shotgun, definitely going to do a tube extension and a side saddle as the final upgrades. I would still never buy any generic shotgun brands like the Chinese knockoff. To me the furniture might not be perfect, but the guts of the gun are completely fine. It seems like you maybe should’ve done some research before purchasing this shotgun if you really don’t like it that much. Not saying the quality control isn’t worse because it is. But it seems like an easily avoidable purchase. Happy shooting brother!

Pick up a Remington 870 Wingmaster manufactured from the 50s into the 70s.Take in the deep bluing, walnut stock and for end and then work the action. Heaven.

That is disappointing, Remington recently got bought out by Marlin right. I've got an older 870 that is a work horse, but next pump will be a Mossberg 500

Got one of these in 1999 for my 18th birthday. And its quality is a lot better than the ones made 10 years later and beyond.

I picked up an 870 Supermag turkey about 6 years ago. It kills turkeys but I definitely don'y love it. I bought a 16 gauge 870 Wingmaster from a local shop for $180. It had been improperly stored and had bad receiver pitting. But action and everything else was flawless. I sandblasted and blued the reciever and use it as a squirrel/rabbit/upland gun. I also have a 1941 WInchester Model 12 in 16 and a Remingtom Model 31 in 20 gauge. Those guns have more quality and character than the new 870 by a mile.

Pretty sure you have picked up a old stock 870 the new ones come with three chokes and wood and I don't believe there even producing supermags at the moment the new field masters are pretty nice guns

I got a Remington 870 Tactical Express a few years ago (just before the bankruptcy). I too didn't like the cheap polymer furniture so I replaced it with Magpul (both stock, forend and barrel clamp). The MIM extractor I believe was the cause of occasional failure to extract issues so I swapped it with a Volquartsen replacement that is machined and that has fixed the shell extraction issues. I swapped the cheap plastic follower with a red aluminum hi-vis replacement. The finish is notoriously cheap and prone to enabling rust so I had it Cerakote coated. I got the 870 as my first shotgun on pure name recognition but I had no idea at the time how much the brand had declined. With all the fixes and modifications I've done, it works great now but that I had to spend a few hundred bucks to get it to that point is kind of a downer. I've since gotten a Mossberg 590A1 and it's definitely my go-to for home defense. It's the 18.5" (6+1 capacity) version and has a simple bead sight. I swapped out the furniture with Magpul on that one as well just out of preference for the ergonomics plus a sling and Surefire light. Yeah, the receiver is aluminum but the bolt and barrel lockup is steel on steel. The trigger guard is metal on the A1 version though the standard 500/590 has polymer for that part. Also, in terms of the best traits for a bird hunting shotgun, what are the benefits of a heavier wood stock over a lighter and easier to carry polymer stock? Are there recoil mitigation benefits? Does a more solid stock mount to your shoulder better?

Yep, that just seems a little more that just trying to shave some cost... there is quite a difference in cost savings & companies producing crap! I use the older Mossberg 835, Wood & Steel! You can get them cheap & parts are everywhere ( ebay & gun broker) ...

I have an OLD Rem 870 2 3/4" only, fixed choke barrels, 26" Mod Vent rib, Skeet Vent rib and slug. Fine polished and Blued metal. Fine wood and finish! It centers the patterns slightly high, ideal for rising game and skeet. Slug barrel likes Win slugs. This gun FITS, WORKS, and has put Much game on my table! About 10 years ago, I bot my son a 3" 870 for Christmas... Quality WAY! Down!! Jams often with double feeds... now THIS!!! Y.U.K.!!! Jerry

You Throw me off when you've called it a mossberg! How much did you pay for the Boyd's stock if you don't mind me asking 🤔 Wow just wow.

I just purchased an 870 super mag a few days ago. Looked up videos and stumbled across this. You should go look at the new ones I think Remington saw this video.

The field master is super nice with the walnut wood! Wayyyy better than that one for sure

For a 3 1/2” magnum I’ll stick to the Benelli Super Nova…I used to be an 870 fan…my favorite is still my old 870 Wingmaster LW 20 gauge magnum, bought before Remchokes…to change chokes, you change barrels (I have the three…IC, M and F)…yep the “checkering” is the pressed in type that is the typical old school Remington…pressed into the lightweight mahogany stock, but the fit, finish and quality is still old style Remington. It pains me to see once iconic companies spiral downward after being bought out by “holding companies” who have zero interest in the product and its history…I hope Remington as well as Marlin will be able to regain the quality of their past…keep up the good, unbiased and informative videos 🤘🤘🤘

Don't dog it before you shoot it and I put well over 1000 rounds through it and it functions flawlessly and is pretty comfortable to shoot 3 1/2" the polymer stock and pump is for weight reduction

I was a fun of Remington before. I desided to buy the pump action shotgun 5 years ago. I started my research. I have respected Mossberg products, but have never been a fun of their shotguns. After a year of serious research I ended up with conclusion that the Remington products became overpriced garbage. I purchased Mossberg.

1963 wingmaster purchased new I was15 years old . I still have it . I paid $89.00 for it. paper route money. It was awesome then, and it still functions perfectly today. Just broken in. Newer firearms are just not the same, higher prices, less quality across the board. buyer beware.

new fieldmasters are exceptional

My brother owns an old one and it’s a great weapon. I went with with the Pardner version of it in 12ga. $100 buy. Truly, I’m a 20 gauge guy with many of them. The Pardner, I have beaten the living sh.t out of it and has never failed. It’s truly a shame they gotten so corporate that quality = how cheap can we make a gun. They should have sold it back to Kevin at Q when they had the chance.

Looks like Remington will be heading to bankruptcy again

I have an 870 super mag in all real tree camo , it’s around 20 years old and has never been fired , interchangeable choke tubes , real rubber butt stock pad , vented rib barrel , never have had a need to shoot it , bought it for my collection , probably one of the last good ones from what I’m hearing and seeing

So I got the 870 Super Mag basic model as well recently for just under $550 from my local arms dealer and it came with 3 chokes full improved and modified as well and the choke wrench. I agree with you 100% on the stock quality being sun part but they have improved the trigger assembly it is very smooth when I cycle rounds and is a great waterfowl option but yeah long term durability’s not as good as my 91 870 magnum

Thanks for taking one for the team! That thin barrel scares me most, as does the cheap toy plastic. I'll stick with my 1973 1100 and my Winchester Super X2.

Yea brother, better off seeking out an old used 870 or a new 590A1 if you don't already have em. I know what you mean about the 3 1/2 shells. Mossberg 935 mag takes em

When i bought my 870 2 years ago the forearm was loose, the factory didn’t fasten the nut properly. But i struggle with shells for shooting clays the jams it like hell and need to use alot of power to pump it. Rarely with bird shells.

I bought the new remington field master it finished beautifully they really are better

Ive got a super mag with laminated stock, that I bought mabe 8 years ago, other than receiver rusting if someone says moisture, its been flawless, terrible but pad, really digs into my shoulder, just got a browning bps, what a nice smooth gun.

Just got a field master it is amazing love to see Remington getting it together.

Just can't beat a budget Maverick 88

They are meant to be hunting guns, all weather and non-glare surfaces. They don't look good but they will do what you expect from them.

That made me sad. I got lucky, i guess. I got mine at the height of covid for 600-ish, but the stock and the forend are wood. The trigger guard is some sort of metal. it's not plastic/polymer. I love mine. I havent shot a 3" and 3 1/2" yet. But that day will come...someday

That thin barrel is the same as any with choke tubes.

I’ve never owned a Remington firearm but after buying Remington core lokt ammo for my 30-06 and of 3 boxes I had about 20 rounds that didn’t fire I will never support Remington in any way at all

You just highlighted the reason why I covet my old shotguns. When I take them out people who know they know. I love to have people shoot them that have only shot very modern recent purchases. I'll hand them one of my old brownies or one of my old ithaca's. It is priceless to watch the look on their face when they hand them back and realize what a weapon should do. That dog is not ready to hunt sir. I have a sneaking suspicion it will be though. And when you said three and a half I just got up ear grin on my face. I am well aware of the WTF that's going to happen can't wait.

I have totally given up on Remington these days after being a loal 870 fan since the early seventies. Last year I purchased a 1981 manufactured 12 ga 870 from a friend that appears to have never been fired and is in 100% condition. These are the ones I go for. I now own two, a 1974 Ducks Unlimited model that I purchased in 1975 and the forementioned 1981. These guns will not only last the rest of my life but most likely my Grandson will enjoy them though out his life as well. I also have a 1100 synthetic manufactured in 1995 that is a very well built gun even though I prefer the wood furniture. Theses guns were made during some of the last great decades of Remington.

Buyer be ware, if you bought this shotgun after checking it out. It’s like walking outside in the rain and bitching about getting wet. If you looked at this gun before you bought it and bought it anyways well that’s just crazy as hell in my opinion.

bought a Remington express 870 bout 10 years ago, last rem i ever bought! Remington had to refund my purchase. They could not fix it where it would not jam with shell stuck in chamber. I think the express was so far from the original 870 that it should not have even been called an 870 model

My 2013 made 870 is a nice gun... The new 1187 .... would've been some of the last ones made...its nice..but not as quality...as the old 1100 from 1998. Was alot heavier. Didnt kick at all

When you were talking about the gun not being drilled and trapped for optics you called the Remington, " a 500 dollar mossberg " I know it was just a slip but as a mossberg owner it made me cringe. Great video showing how much Remington has fallen off the rails.

you did'nt talk about the thickness of the barrel on the chinese one compared to Remington or if the chinese one came with more chokes than Remington.

I have a field master and it has been pretty good I have put 500 rounds through it and it worked good.The only problem it has trouble ejecting floucci shells federal and Winchester and Remington works good.

That one being shown in this video is definately not showing quality. I had one given to me for a retirement gift. Mine was camo version. I retired in 2017 i believe it was used but its been a good shotgun shoots slugs very accurately out to 75 yrds. I cant complain about mine

I got a 870 fieldmaster and it’s good,walnut stock,good checkering came with 3 chokes,is drilled and tapped and with a quality butt stock pad,but the only thing I don’t like is the rough plastic trigger guard

It’s 2022 almost 2023 if you can actually get a firearm you want it’s going to be a project and a lot of custom work to make it nice quality. I have a roundhill group Remington 870 express tactical that I have completely torn down and rebuilt to be much more durable and better quality. I’m in the process to doing the same to my wife’s and sons 870 express’s. Good shotguns but they take some work. That being said I don’t hunt with them anymore, I use a Winchester SX4 3” and Stoeger M3500 3.5” semi autos for hunting.

I bought a Versa max about 15 years ago the charging handle flew off on a duck hunt,fore end loosened all the time extractor broke 2x I fixed everything and it’s a great gun now after I fixed it I contacted Remington and they were rude and not real helpful I stay away from Remington by the way the gun cost 1500.00 I shouldn’t have to be the one to fix it.

I think 🤔 Ruger should buy Remington. What Ruger has done with Marlin has been stellar. They have improved Marlin to be better than they were even in their hay day. Shame on you Remington. You have taken an iconic name and superior American product and ruined it. Great review 👍

Glad my 870 is over 20.yrs old

My 870 express came with a walnut stock. Checkered and beautiful!

I recently got a Remarms 870 fieldmaster supermag & it was garbage...the wood stock wasn't finished...it wasn't flush to the receiver..it was 1/4 inch thicker all the way around...I called Remarms and sent pictures...they responded with its within spec...I immediatly sold it to the gunshop taking a $200 loss...I ended up buying an old 870 and got it cerakoted bought all new springs and parts...I got a NEW/OLD 870

I hope Remington sees this, I agree with everything you are saying … the wood stock 870 I got in 2006 just feels way better than the one I got in 2015 that is plastic (polymer, excuse me lol)

I have an 870 18" Police Magnum made in 1994,it is the last thing I'd part with save my grandpa's Bible. That said,you couldn't give me anything made after 2008...

It costs more for walnut now even a roger walnut sportier morph is 509 dollars

I have an 870 super express magnum why wife bought me 25 yrs ago . beautiful gun deep shiny blueing and a gorgeous wood stock . Don't shoot it much anymore I am to damn old and with 3 1/2 " magnum shells it kicks hard . Love the shotgun

I bought a 1979 870 wingmaster magnum a few weeks back. I think it was a police gun. Its like butter

I haven’t been a fan of Remington 870s since the 80s.

Save the headache and buy the benelli supernova pump. Great quality around the same price with a bunch of additional chokes thrown in.

Fwiw i like the lighter plastic for when i have to carry the gun for 5-12 miles grouse gunting.

I have a 1951 Remington 870 TC trap. Great trigger beautiful gun action smooth as glass. They don’t make them like they used to. Those soft butt pads are much better to reduce recoil. The thin barrels make the gun much more balanced. Mossberg makes a full camo 935 3 1/2 inch with a 10 gauge barrel .773 diameter for $600. Very soft recoil

I think you may have bought a Remington knock off a lot of things are being ripped off nowadays because I just bought a Remington 870 Field Master super Magnum full synthetic thick polymer thick barrel three chokes and a much much different choke wrench that looks like an 870 express someone gussied up and sold

I just subbed......I like you attitude !!! Wood & steel, Metoo !!! I'd like to see you evaluate the New Wingmaster !!!